Where the Roster Stands: Quarterback
As we inch closer to the draft, Pride of Detroit will run down the roster to examine the state of each position. Today we begin with quarterback.
Returning from last season: Matthew Stafford, Drew Stanton
New to the team: Shaun Hill (acquired in a trade from San Francisco for a 2011 seventh-round pick)
After drafting Matthew Stafford with the No. 1 overall pick a year ago, the Lions no longer had to worry about finding a franchise quarterback. That's not to say that Stafford will for sure turn out to be a franchise quarterback when all is said and done, but that need went away the second he was signed to a deal in April of last year.
Stafford showed glimpses of greatness during the 2009 season that gave all Lions fans hope going forward, but the story of last year was not being able to stay healthy. In 2010 and beyond the key to Stafford playing well and the key to the Lions winning games really comes down to him not being injured. The 2009 season forced him to deal with multiple injuries, although he is expected to be 100% in the near future if he's not there already.
One of the focal points of this offseason was finding a competent backup in case Stafford does get hurt again. One thing that was obvious in 2009 was that the Lions' chances of winning greatly decreased with Daunte Culpepper at the helm. That is why acquiring Shaun Hill was so important. Hill is an excellent backup who has experience as a starter from his days in San Francisco. Obviously the hope is that we never have to see Hill play unless it is at the end of a game with the Lions leading comfortably, but the reality of the situation is that a backup plan is necessary in case Stafford does go down. With Hill now penciled in as the backup for 2010, I feel a hell of a lot better about the Lions' chances of winning if it becomes necessary for the second-string QB to play compared to last year.
The only other quarterback on the roster right now is Drew Stanton. Because of Stafford's injuries and Culpepper's ineffectiveness, Stanton got a chance to show what he's got towards the end of last season. Needless to say, he didn't exactly show a whole lot. I don't want to completely write off Stanton because some players just take longer to develop and he hasn't had much consistency with his coaches during his NFL career, but this could be a make or break summer for the former Michigan State Spartan, which leads me to my next point.
Need going forward?
The Lions have already solidified the top two slots of the depth chart at quarterback with Stafford and Hill, but I would not be surprised if Detroit added one more QB before we get to training camp. With three seventh-round picks, it's definitely possible that the Lions could draft a quarterback in the final round. If they don't do that, they could simply sign someone who goes undrafted or just bring in a free agent QB that has been around the league already to challenge Drew Stanton for the third QB spot on the roster.
There isn't a pressing need to find a QB that is going to be ready to play at any given moment in 2010, but I do think there is a need for competition, especially with Stanton. Adding a fourth QB, either via the end of the draft or via free agency, would be a good way to push Stanton during training camp. At the same time, it's possible that the Lions could find someone with potential and decide to keep him over Stanton come September. Right now Stafford and Hill are locked in, but that third spot at quarterback could become wide open if the Lions decide they want to add another player to the mix.
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Though I'm a MSU fan...
We need someone on the roster to push Stanton… if that’s off the roster, then so be it.
lol
millen made a mistake looking at msu players instead of Wolverines because so many wolverines turned into super stars in the nfl
by Daniel Simonelli on Apr 12, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
Flozell Adams and Julian Peterson are the only possible Pro Bowlers I can think of, and they’ve both seen better days. Eric Smith might be the only other notable Spartan nowadays.
Leon Hall, Lamarr Woodley, Jake Long, David Harris….that’s just off the top of my head. Even Morgan Trent is playing a lot of snaps in the big leagues.
Best player available...
even as a back-up/3rd string quarterback. If that player is Stanton, so be it. If not, then the Lions improve. I see it as a win for the Lions. The NFL (No Friends League) is for the best players. If Drew can’t prove that he deserves to be out there, then he should be able to compete on another team (St. Louis/KC/Oakland/Buffalo/Carolina/Jax). Of course there is always the UFL if he needs some starting time to prove himself. I’m not a Stanton hater, but I want what is best for the Lions. If another QB can come in and help the Lions win consistently, I say get that quarterback.
FA QB's Available
Unless you think the FA QB’s like Chris Simms and Josh McCown are worthy of a shot, which i don’t, then getting an “end of draft” or undrafted QB to bring into camp is the best option.
Lived In Minnesota (born) for 7 years. Lived in Detroit for 6 years. I hate the Vikings. Nuff said.
pretty sure that was last year...
it was reported that he signed with the Titans again.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/12/titans-add-chris-simms/
Perhaps the most fortified position on the team
Granted, Stafford has a ways to go, but I love the situation atop the depth chart. Our potential franchise QB and a steady, veteran backup who knows the offense completely.
I don’t think Stanton will make it out of camp. Whether it’s a priority free agent or perhaps a guy like Bill Stull(who the Lions personally worked out) in round 7, the #3 spot is up for grabs.
Agreed
except there are no priority free agents. Mark Bulger, Jeff Garcia, Daunte Culpepper (shouldnt even mention him….), Brett Ratliff, Josh McCown and Chris Simms… Thats all that is out there. We should look at the draft.
Lived In Minnesota (born) for 7 years. Lived in Detroit for 6 years. I hate the Vikings. Nuff said.
by Twincities88 on Apr 12, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
look on wikipedia or walter football.com
He was released on March 15, 2010 after the Broncos traded for Brady Quinn.[
Lived In Minnesota (born) for 7 years. Lived in Detroit for 6 years. I hate the Vikings. Nuff said.
by Twincities88 on Apr 12, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
lol. all that for nothing...
but thank you Sean.
Lived In Minnesota (born) for 7 years. Lived in Detroit for 6 years. I hate the Vikings. Nuff said.
by Twincities88 on Apr 12, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree on the "fortified position"
I need to see Hill play in Linehan’s scheme before I’m comfortable with that bold of a statement.
To add...
I would say that the addition of Burleson made the WR position the “most fortified” with regards to the Lions.
Hopefully
I hope Burleson’s the answer, but we have nobody reliable in the slot and we’re dead without CJ. Derrick Williams needs to develop or the position still needs some fine-tuning.
I disagree...
I’m a Northcutt backer. I think the unproductive year was due to more of having a Rookie QB than anything.
I expect better from him.
He played for Linehan
in Minnesota. For 3 years. He’s pretty well-acquainted with the offense.
i say they cut stanton and grab a vet who has knowledge and can help stafford grow
1st rd SUHHHH 2nd rd Kyle wilson 3rd RD RB best available
by DetroitLions 4 life on Apr 12, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
well that is why shaun hill is here..
he’s played in linehan’s offense for a while, he’s a vet and a great #2 imo.
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by GhostManOnThird on Apr 12, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly...
what do you want? some old fart like Todd Collins or Mark Brunell?
Lived In Minnesota (born) for 7 years. Lived in Detroit for 6 years. I hate the Vikings. Nuff said.
by Twincities88 on Apr 12, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
no like a super bowle winner whos been there done that
hes doesn’t need to play hes more there to teach
1st rd SUHHHH 2nd rd Kyle wilson 3rd RD RB best available
by DetroitLions 4 life on Apr 12, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
if were that scared
if are o-lines gonna let up to injure all 3 qbs i best draft LT first round than
by Daniel Simonelli on Apr 12, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
On paper we look set but the fact is, we don't really have many clues untill preseason.
For all we know Stafford could regress, Hill could be washed up and maybe we got Mayhewed. Stanton could be the best thing we have going into the season, which would mean we are headed for another 0-16 season. I agree that based on improvement of Stafford and the continued level of play from Hill that we seen in San Francisco we have number one and two pretty set on the depth chart. That being said, Stanton is definitely on his last tryout and I will go a step further than saying we draft a QB in round 7. I think if we see a 1-2nd round prospect slide, grab him. If Claussen drops to round 2 it would be tempting, or if a guy like Colt McCoy or Tim Tebow is there in the 3rd and 4th, that would be real tempting. Anyone else I agree though, should be a 7th rounder or rookie free agent signing.
why...
in the hell would you draft a QB in the 3rd or 4th round. Makes no sense. No offense, but I’m really sick of people thinking we need a QB. When you have as many holes as the Lions, you don’t draft for the 3rd string QB. I think you’ll see us get a undrafted FA or at the most, take a QB with one of the 7th rounders we have. I would take a WR any day before QB.
Also, to suggest that Stanton could ever be better than Stafford makes me feel that this is a joke comment anyways. Stanton, no matter the amount of practice and learning, will never be as good as Stafford. Stafford made a play with a bum shoulder that Stanton couldn’t pull off in 100 tries and weeks of preparation.
by lions_sucker on Apr 12, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Burn a 7th round draft choice...
… and take a chance. I’m sure someone will slide and for sure at least 10 " rookie " free agents will be worth watching. That Tim Heller of Western Michigan could be a developmental prospect. " No reason to get excited " or hit the panic button on this position. For once, it might be in half way decent shape…
" I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this. " " What are you doin' here? You oughta be out in a convertible bird-doggin' chicks and bangin' beaver. " " Medication time. Medication time. " ( One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - 1975 )
stanton
i think we’ve seen all that we’re going to get out of Stanton. I fully believe that if we drafted another qb in the later rounds, chances are he would beat out Stanton in camp. it’s time for him to go.
I think it is wrong to cut Stanton
The coaches have put a lot of time and effort teaching him to carry that clipboard you just can’t find clipboard talent like that ; he holds it it at the proper angle , applys the right pressure and sneaks into the QB/Coaches huddle like a master thief .
by Wayne Fontes on Apr 13, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a 7th round QB is definitely likely
For the most part, I think we are quite solid at QB right now. However, Stanton was disappointing last season and I think bringing in a rookie QB to compete with him for the 3rd QB slot might be beneficial.
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