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In Mayhew We Trust: Things to Keep in Mind for a Saner, More Fun Draft

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The nice thing about having a competent general manager is that the NFL Draft has quickly gone from an event where I expect mistakes and am critical of every move to something where I will enjoy watching just to see how the Lions' plan is going to play out.  Actually, this is really only the first year I am going to get to experience that feeling with the Lions.  Although many of you were more than ready to put your faith behind Martin Mayhew and company a year ago, I needed to see his genius in action before letting out a sigh of relief and putting my trust in him. 

After a wildly successful 2009 draft and many impressive moves since then, I am more than ready to hear the picks and instead of immediately yelling "WTF" at my TV just out of reflex, I will enjoy thinking about how the selections fit into the Lions' plans in the grand scheme of things.  Of course, I might revert back to my old ways if Martin Mayhew gets kidnapped and Dez Bryant ends up being the second overall pick or something like that, but then again, he would probably just "Mayhew" the kidnapper and get something extra out of the whole ordeal.

Anyways, looking back to last year and learning from what I used to do, here are some things that I personally am going to keep in mind to have a more enjoyable three days of drafting, and they are things all of you should keep in mind as well.

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1. Just because you haven't heard of the player doesn't mean he is an awful pick.

This isn't really for the late-round picks since most people haven't heard of the majority of players that will be selected.  Rather, this is for picks in the first few rounds where somebody unexpected is taken and the first reaction is to go "WHO?!" and point to high-profile players that were still on the board. 

Perhaps we should call this the Louis Delmas rule.  Last year I personally had only heard Delmas' name once or twice before the draft and didn't understand why the Lions picked him with the 33rd overall selection.  Looking back it's obvious that they picked him to be a starting safety and one of the best players on the defense, and that is exactly what he was during his rookie season.  Sure, most hadn't heard the name Louis Delmas and were surprised he went so early, but that turned out to be a great pick.

2. High-profile names will drop, but that doesn't mean they should be picked.

Let's just go ahead and call this the Rey Maualuga rule.  Last year when Delmas was picked, part of the reason we were so surprised is because Maualuga was still there.  Many were pissed that the Lions passed on him with the 20th pick, so you can imagine that we were freaking out when Detroit passed on him again with the 33rd pick.  Although it was becoming obvious that many teams weren't high on Maualuga, it was tough to understand why Detroit passed on someone who could start at middle linebacker.  Well, this all goes back to watching the Lions' plan play out.  The Lions drafted a player that could immediately start at safety with Delmas and then signed Larry Foote later in the offseason.  Bringing in Foote gave another pick, DeAndre Levy, time to develop into a starting-caliber linebacker, which leads me to my next point.

3. "Expert" rankings don't mean anything.

If a team likes a player enough, they will draft him when they feel that it is the perfect time.  So what if a player with a fifth-round grade is taken in the third round.  Obviously the team feels that it was the right time to make a move to get that player.  Obviously there can be some cases where reaching for a player is unnecessary if it is ridiculously too early or something, but in general it's important to realize that the draft boards teams like the Lions have assembled can be far different than what the likes of Mel Kiper and Todd McShay have put together.

This can be called the DeAndre Levy rule.  Last year I personally was not a fan of that pick at all, partly because after reading some of the scouting reports on him I felt like the Lions could have waited to select him until a later round.  Well, obviously the Lions liked Levy and wanted to make sure they could get him, and now he is the team's starting middle linebacker and a great pick looking back.

4. Criticism is still okay.

Although I have already said that I am putting my trust behind Mayhew, that doesn't mean that he is safe from criticism.  I am going to be much more open to whatever happens during the draft because Mayhew has shown that he seems to know what he is doing and because of the three things I listed above, but if something completely out there happens it is obviously fair game. 

I guess my point is that while it's important to not overreact and realize that the Lions have a plan, you shouldn't be afraid to criticize a move.  Also, keep in mind that there is a difference between voicing your displeasure with a move and just being a douchebag (i.e. "I think Mayhew made a mistake by not targeting this player." vs. "Is this Mayhew guy serious?  What an idiot for passing on this player.").

5. The draft is a crapshoot.

No matter how much preparation goes into the draft each year, the fact of the matter is that some players will turn out to be great, some will just be average, and others will bust out of the league.  While teams can do as much research as they want to avoid ending up with one of those busts, sometimes it is someone unexpected that showed no signs of problems before the draft. 

My point with this is to remember that perfect drafts aren't common or anything, so looking back there will always be picks you question.  The thing now is that hopefully we are only feeling that way about one or two picks at most rather than entire drafts like under Matt Millen.  Obviously part of being a good drafter involves developing the players that are picked, which already seems to be much better under Jim Schwartz, but more often than not with the draft it really is just one big crapshoot.

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Nice, Sean!

Mel Kiper is an idiot and I trust Mayhew a lot more after last season to not pull a Millen in the draft. Suh!

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by Jettero2112 on Apr 21, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

a lot of name drops.

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by GhostManOnThird on Apr 21, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well said

Especially point #3, as there’s always too many guys in every fan base who think players are absolutely pegged into certain rounds based on their supreme knowledge of absolutely nothing(and mock drafts). We don’t know anything about scouting players – they do.

by Hussey on Apr 21, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Criticizing is part of the draft

But obviously the Lions are going to have more information about a player than fans or the media is given. Thankfully these coaches and front office people seem committed to scouting and putting players through their paces (unlike he who shall not be named).

If Mayhew nails this draft, I’ll jump on the bandwagon, but right now, I still have the scars of crappy drafts that I cannot get over yet.

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by ReichardZ on Apr 21, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I just got comcast internet

You’re welcome for this post everyone

by topherclosson on Apr 21, 2010 10:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

critisizing is part of it

If you have no opinion your not much of a fan in my book. You have care about the future of your team.

Louis Delmas is gonna lay the MAC down on your candyass.
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by The Profiler on Apr 21, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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Then you guys should save your opinions for AFTER the draft. How can you have an opinion on something that hasn’t happened yet? Oh Shit!!!! I already hate my next wife even though I haven’t met her yet!!!!! How’s that for semantics?

by dylan415 on Apr 21, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's more about people going off about a pick without actually knowing much about the player

I think we are more prepared this year, but I don’t like people going off just because we didn’t pick ‘their’ player.

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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 21, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

A couple of thoughts

It`s only been 1 draft- i see statements on here like The Lions don`t like to draft DB`S early so it won`t be Berry, well last year it was BPA as all were needed, if Berry is BPA it may be him. I lean toward McCoy but love Suh and Berry..no wrong pick for me here, but 1 draft does not set a pattern. I have said that “Getting rid of Millen and promoting from with in was like cutting off the head of a Dandelion, theres more under the surface” Because Millens #2&#3 were moved up. Well that was early last year before the draft even and it was with some fanfare as well. Now i am feeling better about the direction of the team, i think more so because of Swartz, but i think we still need this draft and maybe 2 more seasons before we can say the past is a bad memory. The proof will be on the field of play.

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by lionsfan64 on Apr 21, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Matt Millen

Matt Millen went to my high school where his jersey is also retired. I just find it so odd that i’m easily the only lions fan in whitehall pennsylvania and he ended up ruining a large portion of the decade for me.

by hobs on Apr 21, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL...

No offense, but that is, ironically, really funny… LOL…

by BriansLions on Apr 21, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

A true Lions fan would’ve vandelized that jersey by now… lol

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by JazzyBBP on Apr 21, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adding to point #5

Great write up Sean…

“No matter how much preparation goes into the draft each year, the fact of the matter is that some players will turn out to be great, some will just be average, and others will bust out of the league.” MOST players from a draft class will be out of the league 3-5 years after the draft or on the PS.

Lions fan down in LA (lower Alabama)

by FusterMT on Apr 21, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Ill be honest

I knew Lou Delmas obviously becuase I follow the MAC heavily. I was very glad we drafted him when we did, and felt like he was a 1st round talent, and absolutly the best S in the draft….

However, Levy was a complete suprise. I was disappointed when the Lions drafted him, and now he is one of the brightest spots for the team going forward..

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by CapitolLions on Apr 21, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah those two worked out well.

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by Skylar on Apr 21, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Number 4

Should be called the “Derrick Williams” rule. In all honesty though last year, aside from the Stafford pick, I yelled at my tv for every other one.

by severs28 on Apr 21, 2010 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

The only pick I did a fistpump for is Zack Follett. I knew who that kid was

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by JazzyBBP on Apr 21, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i remember last year

Everyone was flaming the FO. Including me. The Grew pick, passing on Maluaga a second time for Delmas. D.Williams, Levy wasn’t popular, Aaron Brown was flamed as well as Murtha anf Gronkowski. People were pissed we drafted two TE’s with the holes on defense. But look at thd results.

I want Suh so bad, last night I was debating on naming my unborn child Ndamakong. Wifes not going for it. Anyways, Mayhew has completely changed my approach to the ‘10 draft. He has earned my confidence and no matter what happens I trust their direction. Until I’m given a reason to doubt.

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by Leapin Lion on Apr 21, 2010 1:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah...

the only guys i felt good about were Stafford, Pettigrew (happily surprised—i love TEs that can block and catch), and Follett.

the rest i was scratching my head—passing up on Mauluga and Patrick Chung?

not this year.

by x$pcents IV on Apr 21, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pettigrew pick bothered me

I had to circle back around and research how important TE’s are to Linehan’s offense. That being said, at the #20 pick I was hoping to see Percy Harvin here in Detroit. That was my big criticism from last years draft.

by BriansLions on Apr 21, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well stated Sean.

However, in everyone’s defense last year (myself included), it was extremely difficult not to fly off the handle when players you wanted were being passed up for players you didn’t know much about. I, for one, was not a fan of any of their picks initially (Stafford included). Considering the debacle that went on here for the past decade, it was near impossible to support a front office that was seemingly doing the same stupid things that preceded them. Having seen some of the things that last years prospects brought to the table, I’m quick to point out that I jumped the gun. I’m certainly willing to go into this years draft with more of an open mind.
All that being said, Rule #5 still applies. Just because those players last year showed promise doesn’t mean the draft was wildly successful. The team was 2-14, and you have to wonder how many of these guys would have even seen the field for a team competing for a championship. You hope the answer is “all of them”, but as long as we’re being more open minded I think we all have to acknowledge the possibility that even some of last years “success” stories may underwhelm from here on out.

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by Mushy on Apr 21, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Great post

I especially love Rule #2 that deals with Rey Maualuga. This years version comes in the form of Brandon Spikes, Taylor Mays, and to some extent even Carlos Dunlap.

by BriansLions on Apr 21, 2010 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

kind of disagree with #1

If toy follow. He pre-draft hype you should know majority if the players taken in the first four rounds.

I religiously watch path to the draft, ontop of my daily net surfing. And you get a feel for the top 20 at each position. Obviously I’m not a scout and couldn’t tell you strengths/weaknesses of each and every one. But the names are familiar.

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by Leapin Lion on Apr 21, 2010 1:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Solid post

Weird to look forward to a draft, considering Millen’s history. Thanks, Mayhew!

by TMadison25 on Apr 21, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent post, Sean!

Great points!

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by GRLion on Apr 21, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Well Put

Wish it was thursday already, so we can get the fun going. Im way to excited!

by Lionsfan8 on Apr 21, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Great post

I like those points. I reckon we may come across one or two of those “WHO!!!” picks.

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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 21, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Volunteer
Also, keep in mind that there is a difference between voicing your displeasure with a move and just being a douchebag (i.e. “I think Mayhew made a mistake by not targeting this player.” vs. “Is this Mayhew guy serious? What an idiot for passing on this player.”).

Can I be the douche bag for this draft?
Stuff Like
“I can’t believe they picked Suh! I can’t even spell his name! Its not simple like Eric Berry”

Ah who would believe it … nevermind ;)

by Beerhero on Apr 21, 2010 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

lol....

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by JCruize on Apr 21, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, Here's the other view....

I like the direction that Mayhew has things going in, let me get that out there before you get out the torches and pitchforks. Now, here comes the “but”. He hasn’t proven a thing yet, AND last years draft could have been a better building block than what it turned out to be IMO. First, let me adress the rules.

  1. - I’m going to call this the John Taylor, DE rule. Often when you haven’t heard of a player who gets selected far above where they were anticipated, that moment is the highlight of their career. This usually occurs when someone breaks the cardinal rule of “Never fall in Love with a guy not on the Roster”. Someone goes to a Pro-Day workout, or sees a grainy highlight film, and they convince themselves that someone else saw what they did, and they have to take this guy higher than anticipated. Big No No.
  1. - This could also be called the Randy Moss rule. Or the Terrell Suggs rule. Or the Warren Sapp rule. Sometimes when a big name slips into your lap, it may just be your lucky day.
  1. - Ah yes, the Al Davis rule. C’mon, read it and tell me that isn’t the entire justification process of Al Davis.
  1. - I agree with this in principle. However as we all know as fans, passion wraps itself into the process, and it’s silly to think some emotional overspill isn’t going to show up. That’s not always a bad thing.
  1. - I’m lukewarm on this one, there still alot to be proven as yet.

Now for my Debbie Downer section. Mayhew hasn’t proven spit as yet. As far as the draft last year went, I was definitely on board with taking Curry #1. I felt, and still do feel that a strong defense is vital, and I wasn’t a big Stafford fan. I thought taking a QB was a gimmick to sell jerseys. Turns out this kid looks a lot more special than I ever anticipated.

When they selected Pettigrew I was ready to bodyslam the TV. Passing on Vontae Davis was, and still is imo, a supreme mistake. Say what you will, but as it stands now we have a developmental TE with a busted leg who possibly could have been there at #33, and Miami has a great young corner who played at a very high level last year. I saw our pass defense as a huge weakness going into last years draft, then the season, and they proved me right. How far ahead of the curve might we be now in terms of pass defense with a guy like that back there?

On to Delmas – Sure, I was looking at Mualaluga, no doubt about it. I was ok with the Delmas pick though. Guys a hard hitter, and he comes to play. What’s there not to like?

Round 3: DeAndre Levy – I’ll be the first to admit, I was pleasantly surprised by Levy last year. That being said it’s important also to realize this will be his first year starting. People are already talking like he went to the Pro-Bowl last year, he still has a lot to prove.
Round 3: Derrick Williams – At this point in the draft last year I was wondering if Mayhew was real, or an android being operated remotely by Matt Millen somewhere. With a huge, glaring hole at Left Guard, and Duke Robinson sitting on the board, this one left me wanting to vomit. Still does. It would have been nice to have a nice young player developing at the position.
Round 4: Sammie Lee Hill – I was, and still am, ok with this pick. I was familiar with Hill before the draft, and for the most part, was glad we got him. That being said, he has a lot to prove yet.
Round 6: Aaron Brown – Crapshoot mode in full gear. Brown contributed more to the team than any other 6th rounder in recent memory.
Round 7: Lydon Murtha – Finally we draft an offensive lineman! And the kid ain’t half bad either! Too bad Bill Parcells saw that too and signed him off the practice squad to the Dolphins active roster.
Round 7: Zack Follett – Made solid contributions, played hard, maybe the best pick value-wise for where he was selected, of the whole draft.
Round 7: Dan Gronkowski – A guy I thought compared favorably to Pettigrew, taken in what round? Yeah boys and girls, the 7th!

So in retrospect, based on what we’ve seen in limited time thus far, last years draft wasn’t a complete disaster, but a long way still from drawing comparisons to the Steelers drafts of the 70’s, and I think we will all agree, it could have been better.

As for Mayhew himself? All the moves on paper look pretty, but people said that about Millen in the past too. I want to see W’s. To point, he has yet to prove anything. Plus it still makes me nervous that Shack Harris, who was run out of Jacksonville for the plethora of developmental, raw, picks he took that never panned out, is riding shotgun next to him.

Thank you.

by TCLion on Apr 22, 2010 3:00 AM EDT reply actions  

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