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Lions' Draft Plans Falling Into Place

Although the NFL Draft is still more than two weeks away, what will happen at the top of the first round is seemingly becoming clearer and clearer each day, especially with the Lions.

Last night's surprising trade that sent Donovan McNabb to the Redskins essentially eliminated any real possibility of the Lions trading down.  There's always the chance that something unforeseen could happen (like St. Louis passing on Sam Bradford, for example), but considering a trade wasn't all that likely even before McNabb was moved, now that Washington no longer needs to draft a QB the chances of Detroit being able to move down are very slim.

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Look at it this way, before last night's trade it was not out of the question that the following teams in the top 10 of the draft all could consider drafting a QB: St. Louis (#1), Washington (#4), Seattle (#6), Cleveland (#7), Buffalo (#9), and Jacksonville (#10).  Assuming Sam Bradford does go #1 to the Rams, the Lions were in a pretty good position leverage-wise to trade down if a team happened to fall in love with Jimmy Clausen enough to move all the way up to the #2 pick.  The key for the Lions was the fact that Washington was sitting there at #4 with a need for a QB.  Now, though, it looks like Kansas City is the team with the most leverage simply because if a team is going to move up to for sure draft Clausen, they probably won't have to do it until right before Seattle goes on the clock (Detroit, Tampa Bay, and Kansas City aren't going to select a QB).  Again, never say never, but the Lions' leverage went out the window with Washington trading for McNabb.

Just as a trade down is looking more and more unlikely, the same can be said about drafting an offensive tackle, namely Russell Okung.  Personally I never thought that was very likely to begin with just based on what Jim Schwartz has said about Jeff Backus, but many people truly believed that the Lions would select Okung and then move Backus to left guard.  With the move to trade for Rob Sims, however, it certainly seems like the Lions' starting offensive line for the 2010 season is in place.  Just like a trade down, you never say never about the possibility of Okung being drafted, but right now it appears that the Lions are content with Backus at left tackle and Sims at left guard, meaning they will be able to focus on another position with the second overall pick.

As it stands right now, it seems highly unlikely that the Rams will go in a direction other than Sam Bradford, leaving the Lions with a chance to have their pick of either Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy.  I'd put my money on Suh going with the second overall pick and then McCoy being drafted by the Buccaneers.  This would all allow Washington to pick Okung to protect Donovan McNabb and then allow Kansas City to draft a player like Eric Berry. 

Surprisingly, right now it doesn't look like we are in for many surprises with the first few picks of the draft based on how everything stands right now.  The only thing that could happen to truly shake up the top of the draft is if St. Louis passes on Sam Bradford.  If that were to happen, suddenly the Lions would be in a prime position to make a trade with one of the teams that needs a QB.  Although I'm sure the Lions wouldn't have any problem with drafting someone like McCoy if Suh was taken with the top pick, there would be an insane amount of leverage on the Lions' side if Bradford were still on the board.  In that scenario I would be surprised if a trade didn't happen simply because the Lions could conceivably move down to the bottom half of the top ten, get extra picks, and draft a player like C.J. Spiller or Joe Haden or Eric Berry (if he's still available) with the lower first-round pick.

As we continue to count down the days until the draft, things certainly look like they're shaping up for Ndamukong Suh to be picked by the Lions.  Past drafts would teach us to expect the unexpected, but right now all signs point to Suh at #2.

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Very good analysis Sean. I don't agree totally though.

Our O Line is still very thin and in need of some upgrades.

Guards – Cook and Peterman just off the IR. No depth beneath them. Sims will help immensely here. We could look at a developmental player like Ducasse.

Tackles – Backus is turning 33 and is doing the best he can, maybe improved Guard play next to him helps, maybe not. Long term – he must be replaced. Cherilus needs to improve his play significantly. I am optimistic about him but we have very little depth behind those two. Jansen did not do well last year when Cherilus was out.

Center – Raiola is it. He will be turning 32 by the end of the season. Should have at least three or four years left. I would not worry about replacing him.

It just feels like Mayhew is covering as many holes as he can with FAs, not very expensive ones at that. He is leaving all of Detroit’s options open, including trading down in the draft. I could still see Okung being picked, but yeah, it is more unlikely than before this trade was made.

by NorthLeft12 on Apr 5, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Seahawk's fan - you'll like Rob Sims

He was a very consistent player who most uninformed fans didn’t appreciate. I find myself rooting for the Lions as you continue to acquire some of my favorite Seahawks (Chuck Darby, Julian Peterson, Nate Burleson).

by Hancock.Brett on Apr 5, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd bet on Suh, but Okung may be still an outside possibility

- Both our guards, Peterman and Sims, have missed almost an entire season (Sims in 07, Peterman last year) with injury.
- Gosder has not played well.
- Our OL depth sucks: Jansen is old, and Loper/Ramirez aren’t qualified starters.
- Backus could probably be a good starter at any spot on the OL except Center. I think he’s a good enough run-blocker to play G or RT if he’s ever not an LT.

So, our starting 5 may be set, but what happens in case of injury/underperformance

Now:
1. Backus gets hurt (hell freezes over) — who’s our LT? Jansen?
2. Sims gets hurt — We’re back to Loper/Ramirez
3. Peterman gets hurt — Loper/Ramirez
4. Gosder doesn’t step up his play — Jansen

If we were draft Okung:
1. Backus gets hurt (hell freezes over) — Okung will be a great LT; he’ll probably start anyway
2. Sims gets hurt — Backus can be a very good LG
3. Peterman gets hurt — Sims can play RG, Backus can play LG, Okung at LT
4. Gosder doesn’t step up, or gets hurt — Backus would be a better RT than Jansen

If we go into the season with 6 starting-calibre OL’s, with some versatility, instead of 5, we’re protected against something bad happening and relying on scrubs to protect Stafford.

It would make the position crowded a little, but taking Suh would also make the DT position crowded too.

Maybe all of this means Eric Berry

Hey that's a timeout, I can play right? yeah, get me--get the F-- Help me up...I can throw the ball if you need me to throw the ball...

by n4ry4 on Apr 5, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh my lord n4ry4.....you just opened the gates of hell. Here come the Berryphiles.

I agree. As i said above we are still very thin and relying on people to retun to their pre injury form or improve dramatically to develop a good line. Personally, I think we are on the right track. We are talking about positive results from drafting any of these players. It will be up to Mayhew and Schwartz to determine which of the prospects provides the best value now and in the future, with the least risk and downside to be selected at # 2.

It should be a fun draft day. Can’t wait.

by NorthLeft12 on Apr 5, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, in fact, I guess you could probably say that about nearly any position on this team

If Calvin or Delmas went down, our receiver/secondary would be the worst in the league again.

I wish we could fix everything in one or two drafts.

Hey that's a timeout, I can play right? yeah, get me--get the F-- Help me up...I can throw the ball if you need me to throw the ball...

by n4ry4 on Apr 5, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

If Stafford went down, we’d have the worst QB, etc, etc. Depth is nice, but we need starters first.

(checking the gates of hell…………)

Everything seems to be falling in place nicely to draft either a 3rd DT (Suh) or an immediate starter at Left Safety (Berry), a position STILL conspicuously left vacant.

(rubs hands together like Mr. Burns)
EX-cellent……………..

Two thirds of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson, Houston......seek and destroy!

by GRLion on Apr 5, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1000

"Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind." - Pride Leader, Sean Yuille, wielder of the Ban Hammer.
2010 Wests Tigers : Current record - 3-1 : Current Position - 3rd : Last game - Defeated Canberra Raiders 35-22

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 5, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

I have convinced myself that at #2 it will be Suh, not saying that is the right pick because he wouldn’t be the best player on the board that would be McCoy. McCoy is a little raw compared to Suh but he’s also a year younger, imagine him coming out next year. I like n4ry4’s input and defense on taking okung. When you have 42 million invested in one player to not get max protection is really stupid and if were up to me Okung in the first, Brown or Saffold in the second. Would you leave 42 million in your backyard unprotected.

by SmittyJ on Apr 5, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I love it when a plan comes together.

by Trysdor on Apr 5, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He'll shoot you

…but you’ll have to give him a seventh-round pick for the bullet.

Hey that's a timeout, I can play right? yeah, get me--get the F-- Help me up...I can throw the ball if you need me to throw the ball...

by n4ry4 on Apr 5, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Two thirds of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson, Houston......seek and destroy!

by GRLion on Apr 5, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol...

"Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind." - Pride Leader, Sean Yuille, wielder of the Ban Hammer.
2010 Wests Tigers : Current record - 3-1 : Current Position - 3rd : Last game - Defeated Canberra Raiders 35-22

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 5, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

HaHaHa!! Gotta love it!

This has been a pretty enjoyable off season guys.

I think I might have a new favourite Lion!

by NorthLeft12 on Apr 5, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Okung is the pick

but now that you guys got sims I think it’s possible that Suh is taken

by CardsDefense on Apr 5, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

How come you guy ddin't trade for McNabb?

I honestly don’t like Leinert and Anderson was one year wonder

The beginning of the end of the misery

by Latif Masud on Apr 5, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they are going to sign

Some of the undrafted Qb`s and have a massive camp competion. Unless Leinert was much improved in pratice last year, i don`t get that either because Anderson sure did not show much last year.

1 slice, 1 beer, 5 more reps.

by lionsfan64 on Apr 5, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm officially just excited for the draft

I’m over trying to predict who we’ll pick. If it’s Suh, I’m happy, if it’s Okung, I’m happy, if it’s McCoy, I’m happy, if it’s Berry, I’m Happy. I’m just gonna be happy on the first day of the draft.

"Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind." - Pride Leader, Sean Yuille, wielder of the Ban Hammer.
2010 Wests Tigers : Current record - 3-1 : Current Position - 3rd : Last game - Defeated Canberra Raiders 35-22

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 5, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

You're always happy...lol

Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!

by KDawg on Apr 5, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That I am...:)

"Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind." - Pride Leader, Sean Yuille, wielder of the Ban Hammer.
2010 Wests Tigers : Current record - 3-1 : Current Position - 3rd : Last game - Defeated Canberra Raiders 35-22

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 6, 2010 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should be happy down there, summer is just ending, eh?

Up here Spring is just starting and its 25 deg C and sunny. Walked the dog in a Tshirt and shorts after work. This April is going to be great.

by NorthLeft12 on Apr 5, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why was the dog wearing a t-shirt and shorts?

Two thirds of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson, Houston......seek and destroy!

by GRLion on Apr 5, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Summer has finished, thankfully

Far too hot at times, 30 degrees C and while I can see the ocean from my house, it’s just far too busy to go down there and cool off. The temperature dropping is definitely a good thing.

"Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind." - Pride Leader, Sean Yuille, wielder of the Ban Hammer.
2010 Wests Tigers : Current record - 3-1 : Current Position - 3rd : Last game - Defeated Canberra Raiders 35-22

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 6, 2010 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

has anyone ever thought

Washington at 4, KC at 5 and Seattle at 6 all need a LT and Okung is now the biat. I think Seattle might be inticed to move up and for the doubters. (Thomas Dimitroff and Scott Pioli had at the owners’ meeting. Pioli reminded Dimitroff that he doesn’t like taking safeties early. And neither does anyone else)

by chucka on Apr 6, 2010 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

doubt KC takes Okung even if he's there ... we have Albert and the guy is still very young, plus we just got Lilja from Colts

we’re hoping for a Pouncey or maybe Walton at Center, but the rest of the OLine in KC seems farily solid … most of us think BAlbert is gonna be solid for several years to come and thus no need for Okung (just as many here on PoD think Backus still has a few good years left in him)

sudden thought though … what if St Louis takes a pass on Bradford? do they go Suh? Okung? would a trade down even be possible??? (theoretically yes, but wow) … if I’m the Rams GM, I’d do everything in my power to turn that #1 into 2 or 3 or 4 picks and rebuild from the line(s) outward … I’d send in a 10 yr old kid to play QB if I had to, if it meant I could get the lines rebuilt with some quality players

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by upamtn on Apr 6, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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