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Lions Violate CBA, Forfeit Two OTAs

Just last week there was a story about how the Lions were doing some different things for drills during OTAs since hitting is not allowed. There was also a story about how Jim Schwartz is so meticulous that there shouldn't be concerns about the Lions getting too physical and breaking the rules. The story focused on how he keeps track of every little detail, making it seem unlikely that too much hitting would ever be an issue for the Lions.

Well, something happened recently that shows everyone is prone to a mistake here or there, because the Lions have violated the CBA and will lose a pair of OTAs, according to the NFLPA's Assistant Executive Director of External Affairs.

Detroit Lions have violated the CBA and will forfeit two days (June 21 and June 22) of OTAs.

Next week there were supposed to be the two OTAs and then a three-day minicamp right after, meaning this will throw a wrench in some of the Lions' plans, such as getting 95% of the offensive playbook installed before training camp.

This also brings up the following questions: What were the Lions doing that constituted too much hitting? And who squealed on the Lions for being too physical?

Chances are we may never hear an answer to either question, especially the second one, but I'm interested in whether or not whatever was too physical was a one-time thing or something that happened consistently. I don't have a problem if the Lions were being too physical on a consistent basis because that's the nature of the game, but I do wish we could hear the name of who spilled the beans.

UPDATE: The Detroit News reports that the violation was because of "issues regarding the intensity and tempo of drills." Also, the News mentioned that the NFL will randomly take a look at tapes from practices to enforce their rules, so chances are a player did not tattle or anything.

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I think it might have been Shaun Rogers again....

if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin

by JCruize on Jun 17, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Nah i got it pegged on Roy Williams

I mean he just couldnt take the practices and they were to much for his pretty fingers,

by Liontotheextreme on Jun 17, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets hope that this is "handled" internally

The Lions can use this as a way to come together. It may have been the details that Schwartz keeps that got them in trouble or the use of the tire in the drill to get around the impact aspect of the CBA. Any way it falls, I hope that the Lions can use it as a motivational tool and pull together for the season. I’d rather them get in trouble for hitting each other than at the strip club (not to mention any names, Mr. Young). So they miss two OTA’s… I think they can make it up with a couple extra practices as they get closer to the regular season.

By the way, isn’t it funny that the team with one of the worst records for a decade is being punished for practicing with too much contact?

by Detroitfantc on Jun 17, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

It's funny

But it also shows they are trying to do something about the whole losing thing. Also like you said 2 OTA’s aren’t too big of a deal at this point of the off season. Just a theory but could it have anything to do with the fight that broke out earlier and the league is just now doing something about it?

The Lions no longer wear Honolulu Blue. It is now Suhnami Blue

by Enforcer on Jun 17, 2010 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I bet the fight had a lot to do with it.

.. no reason for a fight unless guys were getting to physical.

I should have been drafted in the second round.

by Slum Village Allstar on Jun 17, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jags also lost two OTA's

Which seem to be a result of a fight during OTA’s

I should have been drafted in the second round.

by Slum Village Allstar on Jun 17, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely off topic but

Happy 40th birthday goes out to Jason Hanson, our only true scoring threat for too many years(millen era).

The Lions no longer wear Honolulu Blue. It is now Suhnami Blue

by Enforcer on Jun 17, 2010 12:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

40 years old and STILL a lion

he;s either loyal or stupid either way keep kicking it straight Ja

Louis Delmas is gonna lay the MAC down on your candyass
Follett and Suh IN YO FACE!!!

by The Profiler on Jun 17, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fucking Christ...wake up call anybody?!

I knew that everything seemed to be going too smoothly. Now we get this tidbit of information and here we fucking go again. Am I mistaken or did this EXACT SAME thing happen under MArinelli and Millen? Jesus this is irritating. Some of you may think this is just a minor bump in the road, but to me this is the epitome of our losing ways. Whether or not you all want to hear it, I’m going to say it — UP TO THIS POINT, I have seen ZERO difference in regimes. Literally zero. We went 2-14 last season. Both of our offseasons have been spent doing EXACTLY the same thing — picking up players the current regime previously coached during their last stint, ignoring top-level free agents, focusing on building through the draft and overall and now this. This is too much to dismiss. I can’t honestly say that I don’t believe in our team at all, but to me, so far not one thing is different from 3-4 years ago other than the faces — same losing ways that are trying to be combatted by positive reinforcement. Ask Dominic Raiola why he didn’t make any predictions as to the Lions playoff potential…because he’s seen this exact same thing happen before. YOU ALL say it’s different, the regime says it’s different, but is it? Name what’s different please. Players were just as excited about the turnaround then as they are now, we picked up “supposed” top-level draft picks that are excited to turn this historically bad franchise around (but so were Joey, Roy, KJ and Ernie), we have a stern head coach who’s a mastermind at getting the most from his defenders (but so was Marinelli), we have “all of the pieces” in place now on offense so that’ll be much improved, especially with Stafford a year in now (but wait, wasn’t that what was said when CAlvin Johnson came in? Wasn’t he the be all, end all for our offense?).
No, Raiola isn’t making predictions until we start actually winning, not just talking about it, which is EXACTLY ALL THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO THIS POINT!
This should be a huge wakeup call that our regime aren’t the masterminds (yet anyways) that they’ve been touted as. Other teams DO NOT fall into this trap.
And I know I’m going to catch some slack for the build through the draft comments, so I’ll ask in advance — name 5 teams that completely built through the draft as we frequently attempt. Go ahead, make my day.
PS I know politics aren’t allowed, but having watched the BP congressional hearing this morning…how the fuck do ignorant ass republicans frame themselves as human beings, let alone decent and uncorrupt politicians? Assholes are actually DEFENDING Big Penis. Sad fucking day if you ask me….

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 17, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Appropriate name.

My two favorite teams are the Tigers and Brewers. Drunk tigers. That sounds about right.
Me in 140 characters

by ReichardZ on Jun 17, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Name Five Times

In Recent History:

Colts
Steelers
Chargers
Seattle
49ers

I agree it feels the same but the difference is that people OUTSIDE of the lions stakeholder is saying that we are doing things right, its not just fans and owners anymore.

And if players werent excited to win…I would be worried.

by IAmGross on Jun 17, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe SVP said we'd go to the playoffs in '08 (our 0-16 season)

and didn’t Mel Kiper say we got the best player in the draft with Mike Williams that year? I agree there is definitely much more respect outside, but if you look closely, there isn’t that much respect… just go with recent comments by QB Aaron Rodgers and the Vegas Odds, no respect (to quote the late Rodney Dangerfield).
Even still, I see and respect your take. After all, we’re do for a stroke of luck sometime in the future (this season or in 15 seasons… like DrewsLions said – we can’t be shitty forever). And seeing now it wasn’t a player ratting us out, that does take some of the nervousness away for me…
PS Thanks for the props on the name lol

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 17, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

both true points as well

well i guess ummm we could….

[runs away crying]

by IAmGross on Jun 17, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got me on the 5 teams though...

sort of,
Definitely yes on Colts, Steelers and Chargers (and GB from Scotty G), but Seattle and the 9ers suck still. Well the 49ers don’t suck, but they are far from good. Seattle sucks though. They were sort of a fluke IMO. Shaun Alexander carried that team through their run and since he turned to shit, they haven’t done dookie. But yes, Can’t think of even one key player on the other four teams that was picked up via FA. Nice.

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 17, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Politics aren't allowed

but I gotta say, if you apologize to BP, you deserve to have your junk kicked in 50 times a day.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Jun 17, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that's all I wanted to say about it NS

I promise Sean, no more jabs like this… I won’t even comment further if somebody comments again about it…

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 17, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why only 50?

The Lions no longer wear Honolulu Blue. It is now Suhnami Blue

by Enforcer on Jun 17, 2010 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

50 per person right

Louis Delmas is gonna lay the MAC down on your candyass
Follett and Suh IN YO FACE!!!

by The Profiler on Jun 17, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I skipped down to the last couple lines

 . . . and, uh, I’m not sure how you got there. Impressive rant skills, though.

Peace
Ty

http://www.thelionsinwinter.com

by ty@thelionsinwinter on Jun 17, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, LRA...

Can I have back the one minute of my life it took me to read this? You are so far off base on this it’s not even funny. Not to mention, it’s fairly offensive… and I don’t offend easily.

Engage brain… THEN type. Try it. It works……

by DrewsLions on Jun 17, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't submit this for DrewsLions to read

If you happened to stumble upon it, it was your choice to read it or not. I didn’t force anyone to read it. And maybe you could point out which parts you think are so far off base? Your opinion isn’t the only one that matters by the way. If you can put up a better argument to debunk one of the above comments, then I’ll gladly admit I was wrong, as I have in the past and continue to do, if you look at some other comments I’ve posted. How is any of this offensive? Are you a former or current Lion that I’m semi-bashing? I don’t get it. Go ahead man. Your turn.

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 17, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

And BTW, I also admitted a lot of my linking...

this specific violation was based on a player turning in the team, which obviously didn’t happen. But still, many of the comparisons still stand, UNTIL WE PROVE IT ON THE FIELD.

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 17, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright... I'll humor you.

For starters… go overboard much? It’s two days of OTAs. It’s not like they just lost training camp… lol. Other teams have been penalized this year as well. My guess is that it’s the league cracking down in efforts to look like it’s throwing the NFLPA a bone as a negotiation tactic in the looming CBA battle. Does it not? I doubt it was even a player that complained to the union. My guess is that it was the vid staff from the NFL management committee that caught something on tape. Your immediate jaunt into how the Lions are no different now than under past regimes is ridiculous. This has nothing to do with anything but our practices getting a tad too physical. Ever think that maybe the players are actually busting ass and like the fast, physical tempo? Ever try putting a positive spin on anything? You know… rants don’t HAVE to be negative.

The other part of this is that it was a profanity laced rant (a lot of it blasphemous) better fitting someone stealing your car or punching your sister. I mean, we lost a couple VOLUNTARY OTAs that really won’t impede the course of the team all that much. There’s a mini-camp in less than a week. I think it’ll be okay. The sun will rise in the east and set in the west. The earth will continue to revolve around the sun.

And as for the political jab… I’m a conservative, so I’ll let your imagination run free there. If ever you find a nice political blog, feel free to invite me and I’ll teach you a thing or two… *wink, wink*

BTW… take it easy… I’m just busting your balls a little.

by DrewsLions on Jun 17, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome back, toledogolf

And democrats are the biggest threat to this country, including blue lipped gumby in the White House.

by dylan415 on Jun 17, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm well as much as I'd like to rip you a new one over dems

Can’t – promised… so just look me up on facebook – John Fischer is my name – and I’ll be glad to indulge both you and Drew. Anytime. Just don’t try passing Family Research Council shit off as credible… or I will smash you.

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 19, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

John, ie.LRA

I’ll never waste my time on the FacePants site. I’m a compassionate conservative, so I will have to politely decline your invitation. I can’t partake in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

by dylan415 on Jun 19, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

As tempting as it is to "feud" with you on Facebook (didn't really know you could do that... lol)... I'll pass.

I’ve read enough of your comments over the past year to know what I’d be getting in that. Insults and derogatory comments does not a witty exchange make. My breath is far too valuable to waste on people who can’t (or maybe refuse) to see other’s viewpoints. I have a few friends who are left-wingers and we have some passionate and interesting debates, but there is a common denominator…. respect. I’ve yet to see an ounce from you, LRA…. which is usually why my retorts aimed your way tend to bite a little bit. Nothing personal. I just usually like to bite the ones who bark the loudest……

by DrewsLions on Jun 19, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay here we go

I never said that 2 OTAs were the big factor here. The big factor here WAS that at first report, it SEEMED a player had turned in the Lions, which would have been a major problem for me, seeing as how the same thing happened under the last regime. Even though you look back now and say Marinelli sucked and all, MUCH of the practice tempo and routine has been virtually the same — there were numerous and plentiful reports during the Marinelli era that our practices were some of the hardest and most up-tempo in the league. So when I hear we’ve violated OTAs, the first thing that came to mind was that a player had done it again, which if you can’t see the problem with that correlation, then your just blind and ignorant. There were no reports when this was written, so I had nothing else to go on. NOW that we know it wasn’t a player, and simple happenstance, it does change my theory somewhat, but not entirely.
I would like for you to tell me how the team is any different than under Marinelli, organization-wise. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Roy Williams, Raiola, and many other frequently claim that practices were more intense than they had ever been? Didn’t they frequently claim optimism was rampant throughout? Weren’t there frequent predictions that our team was amped to make playoff runs by the players? Obviously the Free Press constantly shot down this optimism… as they continue to do with this “new” team. I’m just saying, by going on last year, when it comes down to it, we still sucked shit. 2-14. Doesn’t matter what “progress” you may have seen, or how well you thought players played, or how great Schwartz was, the bottom line is that we finished 2-14, in mostly the same fashion — getting way down, way early, or leading the entire game only to lose it in typical Lions fashion. Wins ARE ALL THAT MATTERS, nothing else! So I apologize for not being “positive” in my rants when things happen that seem to be repeat fuck-ups and mistakes that happened under the immediate past regime. And as for “it’s just 2 OTAs, who cares?” that’s a quote epitomizing a loser. Perfect in every manner should be our goal. That includes following rules and guidelines set forth. Maybe it’s just 2 OTAs now, but what about next time? Lose a draft pick? Or fined? Or lose actual training camp practice time? That’s the beginning of a slippery slope. Just because other teams have done it doesn’t mean we have to, or that we shouldn’t worry about it. We need to worry less about others and more about self. Didn’t your mother ever tell you that? “Just because so and so does it, doesn’t mean it’s right!”… i believe is the old adage.
And now, the other non-important matters, first you invite me to talk politics, then decline because I “refuse to see others viewpoints.” Well, you must be so damn BLIND that you can’t even see in the comments and posts IMMEDIATELY ABOVE here that “IamGross” clearly proved my wrong and I immediately ADMITTED it, thus blowing up that theory! You’re somewhat right thought. I refuse to give in to shit you have to say that is nowhere near factual. If you can’t back your arguments up with facts, then I’m not going to just give in to your bogus statements and claims (seems to be part of your’s and Dylan’s conservative DNA though). And as for respect, I give it where I see fit. You’re pretty much the only person I’ve ever had a problem with on this site, and most of it is because of your opinions and not deriving from factual information. And as for overboard, this is a fricken Lions blog site. Who isn’t overboard as a fan if you blog on a site dedicated to nothing less than a damn football team. This whole site is overboard as far as the attention it receives. So no, I don’t think I’m ever overboard.
BTW, I really liked your input on the whole CBA thing. Maybe had you not directly attacked me, that wouldn’t have been lost. And remember that, you are the one who personally attacked me first. As far as swearing and blasphemy are concerned, couldn’t care less. I’m a citizen and am entitled to my rights. It’s not illegal to swear on the Internet. And as for the internet, I believe earlier you claimed you wouldn’t waste your breath debating me, you don’t have to, that is unless you had previously planned on doing that via video or sound bytes, because mostly the internet is communicated through via typing.
And lastly, to both you and Dylan, I admit I don’t know everything when it comes to the Lions, but when it comes to politics, I am 100% confident in my ability to debate with facts. If it can’t be backed up on politifact.com, factcheck.org (both non-partisan fact check sites) or CBO.gov or JCT.gov in some shape or form, then it probably can’t be called factual. That’s where most of my political information comes from. So if you are both scared, stubborn little (probably racist…at least Dylan…as most conservatives are these days…especially anyone associated with the Dumbass Tea PArty movement) kids afraid to be enlightened, then so be it. Just don’t try to paint yourselves as winners in either of these debates, because you’ve both shown you are stubborn in your ways.

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 20, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Sean,

These two just keep bringing it up, so couldn’t help it. Delete it if you want….

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 20, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

LRA

Scared? Never. Stubborn? Yes. I back down from nothing or no one. A little kid? Hardly. I’m probably older than you. But let’s examine something you stated after boasting about your infallable political knowledge, and I quote, “…probably racist…at least Dylan…as most conservatives are these days…especially anyone associated with the Dumbass Tea Party movement…” Sounds like typical liberal, generalized doctrine to me. Now I can’t speak for any member of the Tea Party, but they seem to be scaring the shit out of you libs. But to accuse me of being racist? Here are some facts for you there, JohnnyBoy. I’m a veteran of the USMC where many of my closest buddies were (are) Black, and Hispanic. Where I work now, many of my closest friends ar Black and Asian. And don’t debate me about saying Black as opposed to African-American. They call themselves Black and they already know they are Americans. So do I. Real life trumps liberal political correctness. My girlfriend is Thai, and very much in touch with her heritage and culture. The FACT that you have a Facebook page indicates that you are young and not as infomed by real life experience as you opine. (Opine, that’s a good word, I got it from Bill O’Reilly). I thought I knew everything when I was younger, too. So as you grow, JohnnyBoy, remember these words from the greatest Funk/Jazz/Soul band in the world, Tower of Power. “The more you know, the more you know you don’t know”. Or, just keep on talking, and typing there, JohnnyBoy, and the hole you’re sitting in keeps getting deeper and deeper and your credibility keeps getting more and more shallow. OK Drew, your turn.

by dylan415 on Jun 20, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha... wow... I mean, honestly.

I can see a retort of any sort is ultimately pointless and a true waste of my time, so I’ll save myself the keystrokes this evening. I’ll say one thing, though… you are an easy one to peg. You are pissed because I challenge your rants… end of story. That’s okay. Some can’t handle any sort of criticism. I just have a hard time getting in line for your Negative Nancy bullshit conspiracy theories. When you say something constructive or thought-invoking, I am the first to give you an insightful response. But when you post stuff like the one above… I’ll be the first not to shy away from calling bullshit.

BTW… scared? Uh, no… not so much. I’ve listened to a lot of leftist rhetoric and have yet to be enlightened by the idea of socialism. Don’t need another lesson from someone that I don’t think can sell it any better. I can think for myself, thank you very much. Have a lovely evening!

Yours truly,
Drew

by DrewsLions on Jun 20, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good job Drew

I think we sent him back sobbing to the Huffington Post LOL!!!

by dylan415 on Jun 22, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have yet to be enlightened by socialism?

Really? That’s weird, because I’m pretty sure we already are a socialist democracy, so who gives a shit what you think about the scary socialism and sharing money out of your paycheck for services we couldn’t live without. We already do it, we already a socialist-type country. You righties just don’t give a shit if your arguments make sense do you?
“I can think for myself, thank you very much.” – probably because you had a good education from a state-funded socialist school and/or state-funded socialist college or university.
I’m not even a huge liberal. I think the DHS and unemployment programs are in shambles, as well as the prisoner reentry program, as far as success-rate is concerned. One thing you guys don’t know about me is that I was raised conservative my entire life and my parents and family are all still conservatives as well. I was that way until about 2006, when I finally opened my eyes to the evil ridiculousness that is the Republican party. Just look at both the Republicans and the Tea Party a-holes. And BTW, the Tea Party scares me NONE! Know why? Because they’re the stupidest, most unorganized movement, historically on the same scale as the KKK, only without hoods. A party based around the idea of low taxes. But what happened in 2009? Taxes fell for 95% of americans, yet these assholes chastise the President as if he’s satan himself. Also a major problem with T-baggers is that they consist of Birthers, Tenthers and just plain white racists. And there’s another problem, Tea Baggers are predominately white, rich people fighting for Bush policies that nearly ruined our country, and continue to do so under a center-right Obama.
That’s what cracks me up: Obama is nowhere near a liberal and conservatives are so retarded to see that they’ve made enough difference to water down every bill that’s come through the congress. YOu should be happy with what you’ve got. And I love how you all think that Obama should have had EVERYTHING in this country fixed by now and that everything that goes wrong is his fault. We’re in what, his 18th fucking month as PResident? After 8 years of just sheer terror on this nation I would fucking think that anyone with a fucking brain could see that shit aint gonna be fixed overnight. Fucking morons.
BTW Drew, I can handle criticism (jesus this seems like repeats defenses I’ve had to make…got anything new you can bitch about, about me?), JUST LOOK ABOVE!!! WHEN I’M WRONG I ADMIT IT!
But once again, conservatives show the world how fucking ignorant they are and how privy they are to facts staring them right in the fucking face. You all are so stupid you think that your LIES UPON LIES, and they are, will get you back the federal congress in November… you must be fucking crazy. YOu’ve had political and moral mishap after mishap since the financial meltdown. I could write a book with all the fuckups the Republican party has had in the last 12 months… go to any lesbian bondage clubs lately? Any anti-gay congressmen been outed in any gay scandals involving rent boys? Anybody stick up for a company that’s costs hundreds of thousands of jobs and ruined any eco-system? What’s that? Another Bush Policy fuck us over? Yup? Hmm, I’m just numb to that feeling now, what having had it occur nearly weekly over the last 8 years. Seriously, there is no way, decent honest people would vote for you fucks this November. It’s going to be a much bigger gap between Dems and Repubs in congress. I might go as far as to say the dems might get 62 or more senate seats.
I can’t wait to put assholes like you two in your place. It’s been long overdue in this country. You’re all too stupid to even realize we’re not the class of the world anymore. And you fight tooth and nail every step of the way towards progress. You morons can’t even grasp the fact that your ultra-conservative values are what have sank this great state, aside from the auto company failures. Economists directly linked our ever-shrinking MBT to our state’s financial woes. Our state gave out over $400 million in tax breaks to major corporations last year. Just plain old republican values tearing down a nation. Way to go guys. Thanks to your values, for the first time in our country’s history, my generations kids won’t have it better than their parents… I’m sure the kids will love to hear that someday.

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 23, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

How sad...

After reading this, I can see you are truly lost and I am actually very sad for you. A lot must have happened in your life to make you so very angry, distrusting and so full of hate. As much as you think you know me based on comments on a blog, I am not that person you described above. You don’t know me and most likely never will…. so don’t pretend to. This was a most distasteful display and definitely doesn’t belong on this site or any other for that matter. I apologize for egging you on. Had I known this would be the outcome, I would have steered clear. This is easily one of the most hateful posts I have ever read and take offense to all of it.

Let me just say this to end this (and I probably shouldn’t even dignify this with a response)…. my view on life is and continues to be shaped by my awesome family and the conservative values I was raised with and that I hold very dear. For that, I am called racist, ignorant, stupid, an asshole, and a moron – among other things. The comments above only prove how hypocritical your own opinions are and you will not see such trash come from me. Sure, I am outspoken and I’m pretty quick to call someone out on opinions they may have, but I have not said one thing about liberals being racist, sexist, bad people or any of the sort. You won’t see such hate from me. You need to take a strong look in the mirror, my friend. That little rant above showed your true colors and it’s fairly disturbing.

If I had to guess, you are a lot younger than me. I’ve had many experiences shape my life and world views. Most of which you have know idea about and couldn’t come close to putting yourself in my shoes. I call myself a conservative (almost closer to libertarian) not Republican. I disagree with many views on both sides of the fence. You only ASSUME I’m a tea-party member and Bush-lover, because you immediately stereotyped me (Mr. Black Pot meet Mr. Black Kettle). At the end of the day, I believe in our Constitution and our individual freedoms (maybe you should cross check that against the basic concepts of socialism).

Get some help… please.

by DrewsLions on Jun 23, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

LRA ie. JohnnyBoy

Now that’s what I call ENTERTAINMENT!!! You’re a great writer, man. We all know that people like your alter-ego really exist is truly an incredible fantasy. With the exception of Obama,Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, and Waxman. You write outstanding ghost-comedy, dude. You shouild write for Letterman, Leno, and Conan, among others. Keep up the good work. I’m a little disappionted that your last retort didn’t attack me again personally, after accusing me of being racist. I never pick a fight but I always finish one. Get up off the ground, pick up your spleen and stick it back up your ass. ROTFLMFAO

by dylan415 on Jun 24, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy 40th Jason

A here’s hoping that your 41st is spent with another team. Your so called better days are behind you.

Thank you for having a strong leg, and kicking off of carpet with no wind, no pressure, and the other team not giving a sheet.

by delusional on Jun 17, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

lol ditto

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 17, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

To Lions Rant Artist

I thought that we were on the right track to build through the draft when we selected Charles Rogers.

by MIggy's DD on Jun 17, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I know, right? lol

In respect to positive outlooks for 2010-(hopefully 2011)… I still say this whole Lions losing thing is either an anomaly or just the curses of BL and BS working their best. Other teams have had far worse paper teams than us and didn’t do so bad. That’s what kills me the worst. We haven’t had the worst players ever, just the worst overall organization, I guess.

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 17, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

lions are going to be better

until they prove otherwise.

and then they’ll try to get better again after that.

rinse and repeat

by redwingxviii on Jun 17, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hated Charles Rogers

He was a typical speed receiver and not prototypical, Andre Johnson was. Oh that’s right, we passed on him.

by Quez81 on Jun 17, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have seen a ton of OTA violations

Does anyone think this is the NFLPA being extra picky because the owners are playing super hardball over RFA contracts like McNeil, V. Jackson, etc?

by ATL Lion on Jun 17, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

I think speaks more to the issues with NFLPA/CBA and less with the Lions breaking the rules… Not to be a conspiracy thoerist, but I am sure Kevin Mawae might agree.

I should have been drafted in the second round.

by Slum Village Allstar on Jun 17, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep... exactly

My guess is that the violation was not from a player complaint, but from video review by the group that watches over this (yes… it exists…. can’t remember if it’s a part of the NFLPA or league or some other group watching the terms of the CBA).

Anyway, the league is just doing a crackdown on this. My guess it’s to soften up negotiations for the new CBA. The league can say “see we penalized teams that were working your players too hard”. My guess is that it was nothing too bad.

by DrewsLions on Jun 17, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can Someone Do Power Rankings of SB Nation Rant Artists?

Seriously. I think we’d place pretty high with all the wit and passion. LRA is our QB, but what other Pro Rant Bowlers do we have and how do they measure up to the rest of the league? Anyone got time for this?

I’d do it, but I’m watching the World Cup. lol

by LionFanInChiefsLand on Jun 17, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

BHGP, the Iowa Hawkeyes site, would win the rant award hands down.

That site is so damn funny and witty. If you like the rants, then I suggest you just go over to that site and read, even if you hate the Hawkeyes. It’s like reading comedy routines in print. I know it’s been said by many people on here, but it truly one of the funniest and entertaining blog sites on the internet.

by toled0lions on Jun 17, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

evil smurf is a quailty rant man

O.J. Atogwe and louis Delmas best safety duo in the league

by DetroitLions 4 life on Jun 17, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Blackhawks and Avalanches sites

especially when some fucktard brings up a Red Wing topic (Bertuzzi is open season to rip on though for Avs fans). Some of the Avs fans paint Claude Lemeiux as the victim and Draper as the aggressor. WTF?

In life, a man is either the hammer or the anvil. Ndamukong Suh is both

by JazzyBBP on Jun 17, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Power ranking for Dylan

1. Douche bag

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 19, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Douchebag? Really.

Thanks for the compliment, Johnnyboy. I have never spewed insanity including “fucking Christ” in my entire life. And, as a douchebag, I know I have been between more womens’ thighs than you could ever dream about. And even if you ever were, she probably hated it, or faked it. Like I said, a battle of wits with an unarmed man. LOL

by dylan415 on Jun 19, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

am I the only one that’s happy that the lions are now too fast and physical? isn’t this great news? sure, they lose some practice days, but I would rather they work their asses off for two less days than go easy for the full offseason.

by telemakhos on Jun 17, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Somebody needs to tell Jahvid to slow down

He’s making the league think our tempo is too fast.

by Trysdor on Jun 17, 2010 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I love a good old Dust-up !

Ya got the players and fans all riled up and we ain’t even started yet ! That might be a good sign. Mental stimulation on the web site and fights in the trenches. No more " pussy " Lions. O.K., here’s the plan. We have a two day " lock out ". Sneak 79 players across the Detroit River into the " Great White North " and conduct a nice little vacation. You know, a nature walk ( in the fields ) and a bug study ( in the classrooms ). Since I’m in Arizona and all the " illegal " attention is directed here, nobody will notice some stray Lions wandering around in Canada. Partake a nice, cool, refreshing beverage, maybe scarf down a mess of perch, and come home relaxed to kick some ASS !

" I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this. " " What are you doin' here? You oughta be out in a convertible bird-doggin' chicks and bangin' beaver. " " Medication time. Medication time. " ( One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - 1975 )

by Keevatron on Jun 17, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Keeeev!!!!

A Capitol Idea!!!! MMMMM LaBatt’s and fresh perch!!!! It don’t get no better than that!!!!!!!

by dylan415 on Jun 17, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

DUFFYS in Amherstburgh!!!!

In life, a man is either the hammer or the anvil. Ndamukong Suh is both

by JazzyBBP on Jun 17, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

A whole lot of hogwash...

Well, it’s only two OTAs.

"Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind." - Pride Leader, Sean Yuille, wielder of the Ban Hammer.
2010 Wests Tigers : Current record - 7-5 : Current Position - 5th : Last game - Defeated the Canterbury Bulldogs 19 - 12

by Hyperion Ecta on Jun 17, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Do we have any new

Wolverines on our team. They didnt like to practice last year, might not want to practice now.

by jeremy j on Jun 18, 2010 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Why is it that Lions violate practice rules and it's okay

but Rich Rod does and everyone gets their panties in a tizzy? Is it because there is slight favoritism for J Schwartz? Or what? Don’t get it

JF
"To me, that’s what we need – explosive, hard-hitting guys that want to be like Delmas. Have fun. Have fun practicing, have fun playing and be volatile. Give this city something to cheer about." - Lions DC Gunther Cunningham

by Lions Rant Artist on Jun 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Can you think rationally, dude?

NFL rules and NCAA rules are entirely different worlds. And the NCAA is really all about power over the universities and their athletes.

by dylan415 on Jun 19, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

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