Grade Jim Schwartz - July 2010
Earlier this month, I made the first "Approval Ratings" post and had you guys vote on the job Jim Schwartz has done so far this season. The results were pretty one-sided, with 95% of the 2474 votes approving of the job Schwartz has done.
While the numbers were still interesting, I want to go a bit more in depth, so this time around I will be asking you to grade the job Jim Schwartz has done since being hired by the Lions. This is more than a simple approve/disapprove poll, as you will have five choices to pick from. When you do vote, make sure to explain your choice in the comments.
For me, I have to give Schwartz an A. Many may wonder how a coach can receive that high of a grade after a 2-14 season, but my reasoning is pretty simple. Schwartz, to me, gets it. He understands how to win, and although the Lions were nowhere near winning a lot last year, I believe they are on the right track. If the Lions struggle again this year then that will be a cause for concern, but I am essentially giving him a free pass for 2009 considering what he had to work with.
What say you, Lions fans?
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I chose B
Even though I could have easily given him an “A”. The B comes only because of his inexperience as a HC. I believe that it was Schwartz’s coaching up,that made player like Delmas, Levy, and Sammie Hill, have a better than expected season. And I hope to see that coaching continue with Suh and Spievey and I guess Follett. And like Sean said. Schwartz gets it. He understands what it is going to take to turn this into a great franchise. Not for a couple of season. But for 10 t0 15 years.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
Ditto, same for me
Plus, 2-14 is still 2-14. I really can’t reward that kind of mediocrity toooo much, even though it wasn’t his fault. It’s like when you do a group presentation and you get put in a crappy group, your grade is still gonna be lower at the end, even if you did well.
by WestsideLionsFan on Jul 26, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Mediocrity?
In what universe is 2-14 mediocre? Lions fans can get so out of perspective some times…
by Big Z in Orlando on Jul 26, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I voted B...
just because we did only win 2 games last year. But if I was grading purely on potential and the direction of the team under Schwartz, I would have to vote A. I agree completely with Westside, JCruize, and Sean, he totally gets it and has done an excellent job thus far for the most part.
B I wanted to give him an A
He has assembled a nice staff, coached up the rookies, made competent decisions, says the right things to the media, the only thing missing is the wins. I want to see him get a contract extension after this season even if he doesn’t win alot of games. He is a quality NFL head coach but he is restrained by the teams talent level, what the Lions need most as an organization is stability.
He gets an A with my vote
simply because he was given very little to work with. Schwartz needed to be MacGuiver with the talent he was handed just to get the 2 wins and the team was competetive in quite a few games last season as well. He may not be worthy of the grade moving forward, but with the competetive improvements he has made so far with players and scheme I’d say he deserves an A.
A all the way
I love the job he’s doing. I gave him an A and didn’t drop him a grade because of what he inherited. The poor guy is not rebuilding, he is starting from square one. We were worse than a friggin expansion team. We’ve had 2 solid drafts in my opinion and I figure next year we will turn the corner and actually be contenders. Shwartz seems to get it. We fixed the Dline this year. Look for next year for the oline and the secondary to get revamped. Schwartz is turning areas of our team that were pure shit to strengths and I look for that to continue so I praise the job he has done in this short of amount of time. I also attribute that to Mayhew for actually listening to the coach on what players to bring in that fit our scheme.
Dammit
He’s only had a year since we went 0-16… The offensive and defensive schemes he’s had implemented are definitely good, and he as a member of the front office has done what I think is a fantastic job with personnel… Whenever they pick up a guy, he’s archetypal for the position they want him to play in the scheme (See: Burleson, Nate – Speivey, Amari – Suh, Ndamukong).
Schwartz brings a winning, confident attitude, with some swagger, which is precisely what I want to see emotionally from my favorite football team. A disciplined team with a knowledge of what they are capable of. All told, Jim Schwartz is on pace to be a very successful coach, in my opinion, and this year will be a big step in knowing what he brings to the table.
I can’t wait for 2010 – Go Lions!!
I'm new here, but I gave him a B
I’ve been a Lion’s fan for a long time, though, just sort of stalking a few different message boards. I admit, I was totally excited about Marinelli when he first took over, and I’m trying to be balanced as I approach any judgment about Schwartz. I love the way he talks, and the way he uses statistics. I even love his taste in music. However, until we see a winning season, I will hold onto a bit of skepticism. “B” is still above average.
Marinelli
I too was sucked into the Marinelli bandwagon when he was hired. Although I never (even after a full season) saw anything close to what I have seen with Schwartz. I think that Marinelli actually started out with more talent and left the team more bare than Schwartz inherited.
by Lions-fan-SLC on Jul 26, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Gave B
I gave him a B in hopes that through the season he progresses to an A. However, I’d love to hear the thoughts from the people that are rating him C, D, and F. Anybody else with me on that?
Gave him an 'A'
i gave him an ‘A’ because he seems to have a gameplan and sticking to it. i agree with one of the other guys that i thought marinelli would do good too…….but then again, what could u expect…..he was hired by millen.
"Good things come to those who keep fighting"
gave him a A
only because there was no A++++!!!!!!!!! LMAO
He seems to know what it takes to get his teams attention. I do not think you will ever hear anyone talking about how Jimbo lost his team. Gets the most out of the players who have the least to give….thats coaching man!!!! RESTORE THE ROAR!!!!!!!!!!
So far...
no one has posted with any reasons as to why they gave Jimbo a low grade. Seems kind of odd to me.
they did not last time either
I say if you can’t explain a reason for a low grade. Than the vote does not count. I am interested know why someone would have voted an “F” grade.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
Is it posible we have some trollers?
Maybe Sean could look into that
A!
the pressure builds …. but what can you do with a lack of talent…. the grading gets harder after this year.. he should do well…. especially when they beat Chicago and burst their bubble… can’t wait to see it.. it will happen… even with Peppers I still believe it will be a great game.. Lions win in the end at CHICAGO!
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
An A from me
Jim to me, has been awesome and inspiring. He brings a winning attitude to the team. Basically out with the old and in with the new. 2-14 in his first year, is nothing to laugh at either, considering what he had to work with. He knows how to draft, when he sees a vet that he likes, he goes out and gets him. JS and MM have a great relationship, and I see Jim doing great things for the orginization for years to come. Classy gym shorts guy.
"I’d probably get arrested because football’s my only time I get to go out there and hit people as hard as I can, and it’s legal," Follett said. "I need that once a year."
B
The team has some direction, an identity they are building towards. And the way Schwartz handled that 1st win over Washington showed class all the way.
I hope the guy can coach football once there is a full roster of NFL caliber players. As of right now it’s nearly impossible to tell if he’s got the X’s and O’s down because a coach can only do so much by calling the right plays.
If the question was team building I would have given an A, but we just don’t know what he’s capable of yet.
The direction was something we’ve been missing out on for years now, whereas the former regime seemed incline to think they could just pick guys up and plug them into whatever system the current coach was running, Schwartz and Co. have a plan and are going after people who they believe will fit it. I like what I’m seeing but can’t grade an A for 2 wins regardless of the talent level
B from NYC
Just because of the 2 – 14 mark – if he was Bill Parcells or Bill Bellichick or Chuck Knoll I think we would have went 4 – 12 even with the absolute lack of talent on the field in 2009. Schwartz is definitly heading in the right direction IMO adn that is the good news.
I still think 5 – 11 is most realistic but if we go 8 – 8 I would be in heaven. They’re doing it right at Allen Park – something we haven’t said in a decade.
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Who's the douchenozzle that gave him an F?
Either a troll, or one of those non-Lions fan Lions fan. The guys who say they are fans of the Lions but only ever talk shit and say how pathetic they are and how they hate everything about the team. I swear the Lions have the only fanbase in sports where the “fans” actually hate the team they “like”.
By the way, I gave him an A.
Lol, you get an A for douchnozzle.
"I’d probably get arrested because football’s my only time I get to go out there and hit people as hard as I can, and it’s legal," Follett said. "I need that once a year."
by Rick Chaffee on Jul 26, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Vocabluary building!
Yeah, I’m going to agree. Douchenozzle has officially become a permanent part of my vocabulary.
A strange bunch
I agree, Lion’s fans are a strange bunch. They also are one of the only groups that would give a coach who’s team went 2-14 the year before an “A” rating.
Many Lion’s fans are devoted enough to be hurt and upset when they don’t see their team going in the right direction. For many of us who have been watching the team over more than just the Matt Millen era, we want to see a bit more than just strong words before we decide a coach is headed in the right direction.
2-14 is a 12.5%. That’s a failing grade by just about any measure. Trolls aren’t the only ones who would vote “F”.
by Big Z in Orlando on Jul 26, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Douchenozzles are very popular in Ohio. Especially around Columbus.
I want to give him an A
but without seeing the results, it is hard to do. I gave him a B, because I can really feel the difference in the draft classes and his comments about what he is trying to do. I feel he is managing to do both things asked of a head coach
1) Build a team that can win now
2) Build a system and a team that will continue to be effective long term
I think if we get good productivity out of this years draft class and we end up with at least 6 wins this year, I could easily end up with an A grade for our fearless leader.
I gave him a B
I think his game plan was sound, but his talent was not up to the task. I think he dumbed it down as much as he could, but with a team full of practice squad players there is only so much you can do.
He moved up from a C because the players he drafted played well, so I think that if he is given a couple years he can get enough guys in here that they can actually play the game like he plans it.
C
The Schwartz earned that “C” because I still believe that we could have won 1 game in ‘08 with a real coach. I’m not saying that Schwartz is a bad coach, we shouldn’t have lost to the rams nor the seahawks. we should have been 4-12 not 2-14. This is the reason he only recieves a “C”. I do understand that we had an absolute sh!t team that year. I’m just not going to give him any extra credit due to the kool-aid/cornbread i’ve been eating the past decade. I will say that I like what he did in the draft last year but i’m still not ready to crown it a win. we all thought many players were gonna be our savior when we saw their decent rookie season. I’ll wait until 2-3 years from now before i crown Schwartzypoo the Lion King.
B
I see two sides to coaching, building the team and game planning/adjustments. I give him an A at this point in team building, but just a C so far in game planning/adjustments because I think they lost at least two games last year due to not making proper adjustments during the game. These two grades average out to a B. I hope the lower grade was due to lack of talent not allowing him to make the necessary adjustments last year.
A in my book
The progress seen is just the tip of the iceberg. we could easily have upset Pittsburgh (28-20 loss), Seattle (last-minute Stafford pick returned for 6) Cardinals (31-24? again, it ccame down to the last 2 mins) and maybe others, if we’d had adequate players on the field, or fewer mistakes. His coaching is what kept us in those games, when the mistakes on field were dooming us, between Henry and Buchanon missing assignments, a decrepid Dline, butterfinger receivers, and sloppy protection for Stafford, etc. He gets an A from me
pretty damn good agrument...i like it
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A solid B from me
Things look and feel good about the team, but the results aren’t there…yet. Once those Wins start popping up, then I think an A grade would be undeniable, considering what he started with.
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Gave him a B.
i think it’s still too early to give him an A. It looks like he’s doing the right things, but we haven’t seen it happen on the field enough yet. We Lions fans have a tendency to get excited at the slightest glimmer of hope, only to find that the glimmer is from the headlight of an oncoming train.
Sure, I like what I see so far, but this isn’t the first time. I got excited when Millen was hired, and boy was I wrong there! I was excited when Harrington and Mike Williams were drafted. I got excited with Boss Bailey and Terrance Holt. I got excited with Mike Martz and Steve Mariucci. I even thought Rod Marinelli said the right things and seemed to get it. Not a one of them came anywhere close to panning out.
He gets an A when a good product shows up on the field and wins some games!
D
He gets a “D” from me. I like the rhetoric and the pedigree, but I’ve yet to see any results on the field.
The team won 2 games as opposed to 0, so that earns him a “D”. But I don’t recall any specific coaching decisions that lead to victories, or vast improvements last year.
And before anyone starts harping on the quality of players on the team last year (I realize they sucked), I’m specifically talking about in-game or between game adjustments that lead to noticeable improvements in the defense or offense.
In other words, I’m not comparing the job he did against the job Marinelli did; I’m comparing him to himself from game to game, and half to half. I didn’t see any marked improvement, so he gets a “D”.
I think he has potential, and I wouldn’t trade him for another coach at this point. Like so many rookies, he had a lot to learn last year. But, I expect my head coaches to be flexible, adaptable, and innovative, and I didn’t see much evidence of that last year.
by Big Z in Orlando on Jul 26, 2010 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
B
Jim needed a season to find out what he had. He didn’t have shit, except for some talented rookies and overmatched CJ. Watch how things will change. Sooner than later. They’re going to beat the Bears twice/Packers and Vikes 0nce, and the Pats on Thanksgiving. Write it down.
A: From a Distance
You can’t turn an oil tanker on a dime. Last season may not have been great on the record but there were signs that a new course has been charted in Detroit.
The injuries that plagued the Lions last season were symptomatic of the personnel issues that could not be addressed through the draft and free agency. There were just too many holes to plug to keep the team afloat. Plus with a new coaching staff came new systems, new playbook, and a new attitude.
Scott Linehan and Gunther Cunningham must feel like kids at Christmas with all of their new toys. Does this mean that the Lions will be headed to Dallas in February? Not likely, but what I expect to see this season is the tanker coming about and next season they will stay the course.
Some patience would serve some of the Lions fans well along with tempered expectations. Remember, unrealistic expectations are premeditated resentments.
From a distance, and still a Viking fan.
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