Thursday Notes: Deal With Ndamukong Suh Reportedly 'Moving Slowly'
by Sean Yuille on Jul 29, 2010 12:30 PM EDT
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- According to Jim Schwartz on Twitter, there will be two practices on Sunday and Monday, but only one practice on Tuesday. That one practice on Tuesday, however, will be the first day of full pads. A couple days ago, Schwartz mentioned that training camp will get underway on Saturday with a conditioning test in the morning and the first practice in the afternoon.
- Some interesting contract news from Adam Schefter:
Word on street: Some hiccups on way to a Rams-Sam Bradford deal. Lions-Suh deal moving slowly. Broncos getting close to signing Tim Tebow.
The Lions still have up until Saturday morning to get Ndamukong Suh and Jahvid Best signed if they don't want them to miss any time, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little concerned at this point. - Schwartz believes the holdup with Suh is partly because of the holdup with the Rams and Sam Bradford.
- Speaking of Schefter, ESPN's training camp tour will take him to Allen Park on Sunday.
- Umpires will no longer be positioned in the defensive backfield, where they were vulnerable to colliding with players. Instead they will be 12-15 yards off the line of scrimmage in the offensive backfield. That puts them parallel with the referee, which will be a pretty big change, especially when it comes to spotting the ball.
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On the umpires
I ref highschool football, so I have a little knowledge in that area. I think that move is great. I’ve seen some umpires get clobbered. This shouldn’t create an issue for spotting the ball since its the headlinesman and linejudge (on the wings) that make the ball spot. The umpire shouldn’t even be looking at the ball since his first priority is to watch for holdings and illegal use of the hands, stuff like that.
It is a bit discouraging...
Especially since the guy said he doesn’t want 2 hold-out. Seems like they’re kinda waitin on Bradford 2 set the bar & goin from there. But, if it’s a money thing, maybe they should win some games of they don’t wanna pay high draft picks, or trade them if it’s that big of deal. Let’s get these guys on the field they could be the difference makers.
Of course he said he didn't want to hold out
What do you expect the guy to say, “Yeah, I’m really looking forward to not attending camp.” At the end of the day though, like 95% of athletes, it’s all about the power of the dollar. If Suh took whatever offer the Lions have on the table right now, he would still instantly be one of the highest paid DT’s in the league. Instead, he’s decided to wait for Bradford to sign so that he can squeeze every possible dollar out of us.
If Suh misses even a single day of Camp I will be EXTREMELY disappointed in him. It’ll essentially mean he’s a liar; he could sign whatever contract the Lions are offering right now and be SET FOR LIFE, yet he’s trying to tack a couple million more dollars onto the guaranteed figure, proving that he’s just like the rest of these overpaid athletes. Sad.
This is a load of BS.
Nice to see you can make such sweeping judgments about a guy you’ve never met. Ndamukong is a great guy, much different than how you are attempting to paint him.
I understand being disappointed if he isn’t signed by the start of camp, I will be too, but maybe hold off on the character judgments when everyone who has ever known the guy has nothing but the best things to say about him.
by Grrranderson on Jul 30, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
To an extent, maybe.
I agree that I should probably wait to go nuts until he actually misses camp. I’m just very frustrated with the whole situation. This guy is about to be the highest paid defensive player on the team, yet he’s waiting for Bradford so that he can get even more money. I realize it’s not his fault to an extent, and that he’s simply taking advantage of the way the system is set up, and has his agents in his ear telling him what he should and shouldn’t do; I guess I had just thought/hoped he was the kind of guy that would tell his agent “fuck those extra couple million, I’m going to be in camp on time.” Again, it’s possible he still is on time, but if Adam Schefter is right then it’s not looking very likely.
Like you wouldn’t hold on a couple extra days for a couple more MILLION???? I don’t blame him one bit! If someone is willing to pay you X amount of dollars for your services, you are not overpaid. Besides, ever see a retired NFL lineman in his 50s or 60s? Trust me, they’ve earned their money with the abuse to their bodies.
Don't blame Condon
I know we don’t like the idea that the guy we just picked at #2 isn’t the role model we would like him to be, but we have to realize that Suh is the guy signing on the dotted line, not his agents. If Suh holds out it will be for one reason and one reason only; greed.
I just hope Suh understands the ramification of holding out in a blue collar state like Michigan; I, for one, will probably never look at him the same way, particularly after all of his “I swear I don’t want to hold out!” bullshit.
Maybe I’m overreacting seeing as how camp hasn’t started yet. I don’t know.
I think you're overreacting
The contracts this year are more complex because of the possibility of no football in 2011.
I’m sure the money is allready agreed upon. Most contract hold-ups are over legalese language in the contracts.
In life, a man is either the hammer or the anvil. Ndamukong Suh is both
Pride of Detroits village idiot
lol it's all good
In life, a man is either the hammer or the anvil. Ndamukong Suh is both
Pride of Detroits village idiot
really
a guy that good as SUH? You would say F it? the deal will get done.. Bradford is holding up everyone right now
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
Waynes being sarcastic
In life, a man is either the hammer or the anvil. Ndamukong Suh is both
Pride of Detroits village idiot
Get it done, with or without Bradford
Tired of waiting, a holdout would just be a killer for this season.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
With Suh
Already pledging a shitload of money for the Nebraska engineering program…. The Lions should be considering his philantropic donations as they’re negotiating.
I don't think they should
The way I look at it, whatever money he’s pledged to Nebraska has absolutely nothing to do with us, and should be completely irrelevant in negotiations.
we need suh undercontract...I think with Dez and Mclain ,Best should be moving along already.
I agree with moving the umpires but I just know it will increase the amount of bad ball spots.
Me and Pheonix Marie..be Jealous (pic)
"When people start copying your style, you know that something must be happening." - James hetfield (Metallica)
Need is too strong of a word U 2
Especially when we are talking about a DT, how many plays does he actually have to learn???? OK Suh here’s what you do. . . .that thing in front of you is called a “football” and the guy touching it is called a “center” . . .now here’s where it gets tricky when the “center” hikes the ball to the “quarterback” I want you to occupy as many guys as you can and still try to get who ever has that ball. Now look guys if we didn’t have Williams and SLH I would be more worried but we are talking about a monster of a DT coming out of collage and for SUH to miss a week or so isn’t going to destroy the chemistry that hasn’t even begun to start yet. If this hold out lasts for a couple of weeks then we should start to worry but until then I take it with a grain of Favre.
How many lumps you want Doc?
OT but I just saw that Chester Pitts inked a deal with the Seahawks today
by WestsideLionsFan on Jul 29, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
I wanted him but
He probably has a chance to start seeing as how we got Sims some months ago from them.
Me and Pheonix Marie..be Jealous (pic)
"When people start copying your style, you know that something must be happening." - James hetfield (Metallica)
by The Profiler on Jul 29, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah for sure, their OL got gutted hardcore
We also got Canfield from them.
by WestsideLionsFan on Jul 29, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
thats right I forgot about that.
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"When people start copying your style, you know that something must be happening." - James hetfield (Metallica)
by The Profiler on Jul 30, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking for advice
I’ve pretty much decided on getting Gamepass, but what I can’t decide on is what package to get. I don’t have a lot of money so I’m looking for value. The two option I’m looking at are the Team subscription which gives me all the Lions games but that’s it for $199.99 (about $225 my bucks) while the other option is a monthly subscription to the whole shebang for $69.99 a month (or about $77). I’d like to get the monthly subscription, but I tend to think that’s just to much and doesn’t represent the value I’m looking for. What do you guys think?
RIP Robyn Bailey 1961 - 2010. I love you mum.
I think that's a crap load of money...
I don’t know much about it…but perhaps you could buy a slingbox for someone in the states and watch the games via the internet…and you’d also get to watch sports as well and other cable. Plus you could use it for as long as it’s relevant, and not just this season. I don’t know, just an idea, but it’s still quite expensive and could be difficult to coordinate.
by lions_sucker on Jul 29, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say it depends on how much free time you have on Sundays.
If I was you, I would get the Lions season package. It’s gonna be worth it this year!
I would do it.
I’m planning on getting the full package this year from direct tv.
Not even trippin' on the fact that Suh or Best have not signed
They will get signed and will be in training camp. Every team goes thru this.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
we have till SAT...
best will sign first.. a few low rounders have signed.. it’s just a matter of time… both SUH and BEST are NEEDED desperately
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
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