Detroit Lions 53-Man Roster Prediction (First Edition)
Perhaps the most interesting part of training camp is watching the different roster battles and trying to figure out who will make the 53-man roster. This year, the cutdown to 53 players is scheduled to happen on Sept. 4. Although the roster announced that day will likely undergo a few changes before the regular season gets going (i.e. claiming players let go by other teams), it's still fun to try and predict what that initial 53-man roster will look like.
Every so often over the coming weeks I will put up a post that gives my predictions and allows all of you to share your predictions as well. With training camp officially getting underway later today, I figured now was a good time for the first edition. Right now we don't have any current (as in stuff not from seven or eight months ago) on-field stuff to go off of, so there will be even more guessing than usual in this edition of the roster prediction.
Before I jump into the position-by-position breakdown, I want to quickly share my thought process for predicting the 53-man roster. Basically, a massive prediction like this involves two main criteria: 1) which players I think will make the team; and 2) how many players will be taken at each position. There are many players that can be categorized as locks to make the team, so I went through and moved them to the "keep" category first. After that, I went through the positions and decided on the bubble players I would keep before ultimately choosing how many players to keep at each position (based heavily on what the Lions' week one roster looked like last year). It's obviously an inexact science, but that's how I decided on my 53-man roster for the Lions (after the jump).
Quarterback
Keep (3): Matthew Stafford, Shaun Hill, Drew Stanton
Cut: None
Five or six teams went into the regular season last year with only two quarterbacks on the roster (including Jim Schwartz's old team, the Titans), but I don't think the Lions will do that. While Stanton does sort of seem like a waste of a roster spot, the fact is that he knows the system. Could he be let go if the coaches just couldn't stomach parting ways with a player at another position? It's possible, but with Stafford's injury history, I imagine the Lions don't want to deal with having to find Hill a backup in the middle of the season if Stafford went down.
Running Back
Keep (4): Jahvid Best, Kevin Smith, Aaron Brown, Maurice Morris
Cut: DeDe Dorsey
This seemed pretty obvious to me. Best will make the team for sure, and Smith should be on the 53-man roster as long as he's healthy. For Brown, he is a player who is still developing and has lots of upside, and then Morris is the veteran backup in the group. Dorsey definitely has some skills, but unfortunately for him there just isn't much room at this position for the Lions.
Fullback
Keep (1): Jerome Felton
Cut: Matt Clapp, Jake Nordin
I wouldn't be surprised if the Lions kept Nordin simply because he can play fullback and tight end, but I would bet on only Felton making the team. The Lions finished last season with only one fullback, and with four running backs projected to make the 53-man roster, there just isn't much room for another FB.
Wide Receiver
Keep (5): Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, Bryant Johnson, Dennis Northcutt, Derrick Williams
Cut: Brian Clark, Eric Fowler, Mike Moore, Contrevious Parks, Tim Toone
This was one of the tougher positions for me because there is so much uncertainty after Calvin and Burleson. While I did include BJ and Northcutt on the 53-man roster, I do believe they are on the bubble. The same even goes for Derrick Williams, as all it takes is one of the young guys to step it up and take the spot of a veteran (or a fellow young guy in Williams' case). A couple of the guys on the cut list seem like practice squad material, but if a veteran goes down with an injury or just has a rough camp, I could see someone like Toone squeaking onto the team.
Tight End
Keep (3): Brandon Pettigrew, Tony Scheffler, Will Heller
Cut: Richard Dickson, Dan Gronkowski
If the Lions were to take a fourth tight end, my guess is it would be Nordin, who could serve as a hybrid TE/FB. Gronkowski still has a ways to go in my mind, and Dickson is an undrafted free agent. As long as they are all healthy, the top three of Pettigrew, Scheffler and Heller are locked in, so the battle for Dickson and Gronkowski will be to convince the coaches to keep a fourth true tight end on the roster. Unfortunately for them, I think that will be a losing battle.
Offensive Tackle
Keep (4): Jeff Backus, Gosder Cherilus, Jon Jansen, Jason Fox
Cut: Corey Hilliard
This pretty much speaks for itself. Backus is the starting left tackle; Cherilus and Jansen are battling it out for the starting right tackle job; and Fox is a rookie who will likely spend 2010 developing as a backup. The Lions don't need more than four tackles, so those are the obvious candidates to make the team.
Offensive Guard
Keep (3): Stephen Peterman, Manny Ramirez, Rob Sims
Cut: Trevor Canfield, Roy Schuening
This is basically the same setup as last year. Keep three "true" guards and then have one of the centers be a dynamic enough player that he can also line up at guard. Actually, the only difference is that Sims is on the roster instead of Daniel Loper. Other than that, everything else is the same, including at center.
Center
Keep (2): Dominic Raiola, Dylan Gandy
Cut: Dan Gerberry
Raiola is obviously the starter, but Gandy is versatile enough that he can be a backup at center and guard. As a result, the Lions don't have to take an extra lineman and can use that spot for a different position.
Defensive End
Keep (5): Kyle Vanden Bosch, Cliff Avril, Jason Hunter, Turk McBride, Jared DeVries
Cut: Chima Ihekwoaba, Willie Young
At this position, my locks were KVB, Avril and Hunter. That left the other four players on the bubble, and ultimately I decided to keep McBride, who has been with Gunther Cunningham since their days in Kansas City, and DeVries, who is a veteran player. I thought about taking Young over McBride or DeVries since he is a rookie with potentially more upside, but he is probably a better fit for the practice squad.
Defensive Tackle
Keep (4): Ndamukong Suh, Corey Williams, Sammie Hill, Andre Fluellen
Cut: Robert Callaway, Joe Cohen, Landon Cohen, Leger Douzable
This was another case of determining how many players the Lions will take at this position. The top three of Suh, Williams and Hill seems pretty set in stone, and I like Fluellen as the fourth DT. It was close between him and Landon Cohen, though. If I had the Lions taking five DTs, then Landon Cohen would have been on the 53-man roster.
Linebacker
Keep (6): Julian Peterson, DeAndre Levy, Zack Follett, Jordon Dizon, Isaiah Ekejiuba, Landon Johnson
Cut: Lee Campbell, Ashlee Palmer, Caleb Campbell, Vinny Ciurciu
This was quite possibly the toughest position of all, because after the starters (Peterson, Levy, Follett), it is a complete guessing game. Not only do you have to consider the backups' play at linebacker, but their play on special teams is also important. That is why Ekejiuba was the first backup I moved to the keep category. The Lions seem extremely high on his special team abilities, and I think he will have a spot on the team because of that. Johnson is in a similar situation, except his skills at linebacker are good enough that he will stick around. As for Dizon, he seems to be the best linebacker of the backup group, so I gave him an edge over the likes of Palmer and Ciurciu, who are mainly special teams player, and the two Campbells, who are inexperienced.
Cornerback
Keep (6): Dre Bly, Chris Houston, Eric King, Amari Spievey, Jonathan Wade, Dante Wesley
Cut: Jack Williams, Aaron Berry, Jonathan Hefney
The top five players at CB seem to be in pretty good position to make the team right now. The only one I wasn't sure about was No. 6, Wesley. I think he could be beat out by Berry, who the coaches seem to like quite a bit. Even so, Wesley was one of those guys brought in from Carolina in part to play special teams. Since the Lions seem so committed to improving their play on kick/punt coverage, I think Wesley will get the nod over Berry. Even so, look for Berry to make the practice squad and likely end up on the 53-man roster at some point, as I would bet on the secondary changing quite a bit over the course of the season as coaches try to find out what works and what doesn't.
Safety
Keep (4): Louis Delmas, Ko Simpson, Marvin White, C.C. Brown
Cut: Marquand Manuel
This position is pretty simple: take Louis Delmas and pick three of the four other players. Why did I pick Manuel as the odd man out? Well, Simpson and White both seemed to play decent last year (White is a good hitter). Although Simpson is banged up right now, I gave him the edge over Manuel. As for Brown, he is a new guy, so I imagine coaches will keep him around and see what he's got rather than stick with somebody they already know is nothing more than average (Manuel).
Special Teams
Keep (3): Jason Hanson, Nick Harris, Don Muhlbach
Cut: Aaron Pettrey
This one doesn't require much of an explanation. Pettrey is around only to take some of the load off Hanson, and unless Hanson suffers an injury, Pettrey will be gone for sure.
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So there you have it. Those are my 53 guys right now. I'm sure things will change quite a bit as training camp gets going and we start to hear about who is excelling and who is on borrowed time, but this is my initial prediction for the Lions' 53-man roster.
Now it's your turn. In the comments, share your thoughts about who will or won't make the roster and if you're so inclined, pick 53 of your own and share it with the rest of us. That way we can look back and see whose prediction was the most accurate and who was just way off. Plus, this is a good conversation starter as we wait for the first batch of news about camp to hit the presses.
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Not bad Sean.
I agree with pretty much all of it. planations what i wasn’t sure about, your explanations cleared it up.
"I’d probably get arrested because football’s my only time I get to go out there and hit people as hard as I can, and it’s legal," Follett said. "I need that once a year."
planations???? lol * And what i wasn't sure about
"I’d probably get arrested because football’s my only time I get to go out there and hit people as hard as I can, and it’s legal," Follett said. "I need that once a year."
by Rick Chaffee on Jul 31, 2010 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I see Caleb Cambell staying
Unless we add a vet before the season. He is young, big and way to fast for them to just let go. Unless of course he does horrible in camp. There is to much upside for him even tho he is inexperienced. Someone would snatch him up right away if they did and I think he will be staying. I am not saying they will cut someone else, but I could see them keeping him instead of someone else. I could see a 3rd string QB being let go for someone they see being young and full of potential instead. If they needed to they could send him to a practice squad later if another QB gets brought in due to a injury and believe they could find someone better then what we currently have now anyways.
idk well see
Next move trade for Jarrad Page
by DetroitLions 4 life on Jul 31, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Good job Sean...it's nice to have some real football to talk about.......
…even if it is just training camp.
Taking your list one step farther I have a seven man practice squad of:
Aaron Berry – CB, Caleb Campbell – LB, Willie Young – DE, Dan Gronkowski – TE, Tim Toone – WR, Chima Ihekwoaba – DE, Jack Williams – CB
+1
That is what i was looking at also. Give Caleb some time to get up to speed. 2 TE sets means we need some basckup there as well as the CB spot for weekly adjustments and bring along the DE`s. I don`t know who else i would have kept on the pratice squad. Between special teams and pratice squad i think there will be some movement every week.
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I think Jack Williams will make the team
My guess. I liked how he played in the couple Denver games I saw him in. I think if he goes on the practice squad he will be playing on another team week 1.
He's got a shot if he can get healthy
But if he starts on the PUP list, I’m not so sure.
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by Sean Yuille on Jul 31, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
wow talk about flashback
i can’t believe aveion cason is finally gone. that dude was like jesus (when cut from the team aveion would always appear again 3 days later back on the roster). man look at some of those other scrubs yamon figurs, keary colbert. yes this team has gotten much better.
Everything looks good except
I’m thinking Tim Toone will probably make the roster. He is a solid return man and he appears to have enough quickness to be the next Wes Welker if given a legitimate chance. I’d like to see him out there instead of Dennis Northcut who was a total disappointment last year.
Agreed
I think Toone has a solid shot.
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by Sean Yuille on Jul 31, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
ditto
From the video’s I’ve seen around the web he looks like he runs good routes and gets off the ball pretty well (granted that was in college) and the kick returns I’ve seen he doesn’t do much dancing. He gets going quick and makes good choices when picking holes when returning. He looks like he could give us that dynamic that Eddie Drummond did a few years ago. Lets just hope he could be a little more consistent and actually cut it as a receiver unlike Drummond.
I'm getting really tired of the Wes Welker comparisons.
Just ‘cuz he’s a white guy, he has to be the next Wes Welker? Why can’t he be the next Percy Harvin? Seriously, every white receiver in the next 5 years will be compared to Wes Welker, just like 10 years ago everyone was “the next Tim Dwight” or “the next Wayne Chrebet”. Just cuz the guy is white doesn’t mean he’s a Welker clone, FFS!
by RobertPorcher on Jul 31, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Comparing Toone to Welker
Obviously being white its easy to compare Toone to Welker. But also, like Welker, Toone is quick, fast, sure-handed and can catch passes across the middle. So I’m not really thinking the comparison between the two is that much of a problem.
Good list
I think Willie Young will make the 53 roster over DeVries and McBride. I think Young has some good cover skills for a DE. He could be used in some hybird 3-4 schemes like the ones that were used last season with JP. But it is a toss up.
Its hard to agrue anything right now. Alot of the depth at some of the positions seem to be interchangeble.
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I think DeVries will be gone in favor of an additional LB (Campbell)
Just because Campbell will be a better special teams player and the versatility of Flu being able to play inside and out. Also I think we will see Suh lining up at LDE ocasionally to give the opposing offenses a different look in order to force a OL blocking shift and open things up for KVB and JP
by Wayne Fontes on Jul 31, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd hate to see Tim Toone and Willie Young go the way of Murtha
Hopefully they can be somewhat useful on special teams to make it easier to keep them. Dante Wesley is a good special teams guy but he is absolutely useless in coverage. I want to keep him, but we’re already so thin back there we might be better off keeping a young guy with potential to be a good cover corner like Berry or Jack Williams.
by WestsideLionsFan on Jul 31, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions
I also think if we cut Stanton at the very very end of camp
It would give him time to learn more of the offense, but at the same time we could cut him and pick him back up later in the season if we needed him. I doubt anyone would pick him up based on his shoddy resume. If we’re even in a situation where we actually need him in a game, we’re screwed the same whether he’s been with the team the whole season, or we just picked him up.
by WestsideLionsFan on Jul 31, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions
Also, I think Trevor Canfield will beat out Man Ram
by WestsideLionsFan on Jul 31, 2010 9:44 AM EDT reply actions
+ 1
Wow how a season or 2 can change a persons feelings, i thought he was a player with upside, and now i just wish we had a gate, we could block.
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I like the list
I think 2 QBs (per Westsides comment)
I like an extra LB (Campbell?)
I think the battle at RB will be dorsey vs brown (If brown learns to read the playbook he has the edge, but I don’t see Shcwartz keeping a guy who runs the wrong play over a guy who runs the right one)
I think Toone could edge either Northcut or Williams if he is a good return man and at least a decent receiver. I see us with 2 WR a lot and an extra TE or RB (Best) as pass catchers.
I like Williams over either Wade or Wesley
I like us trading to get a real safety over White
But this is why we have training camp. Is anyone planning on giving us some eye witness reports? Sean, isn’t this a good time to convince someone to give you a Press pass? If you get one now, it will be easier to get another one later.
With the whole 2 QBs thing
Personally that’s what I would do if I were the Lions. Like you say, chances are Stanton won’t even get picked up. Even if he did, what’s the point in keeping him around when it appears his career in Detroit has hit a dead end?
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I think the point would be
That our two QBs got hurt. I know it sounds far fetched, but isn’t that what happened last year?
Yeah, I think Stanton’s career is over in Detroit, but if all hell breaks loose and he can come off the street at under 300lbs and run the plays without two arm bands full of the plays we are better off than pulling Culpepper off the mountain lion squad.
Yeah exactly
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by Sean Yuille on Jul 31, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
way i see it
The Lions should keep 3 qbs. the likelyhood we have another bad season is very good, which means there will be a lot of garbage time. If we give a young gun some time, and he does well then thats becomes a trading chip. I dunno what to think of stanton. he had a decent to good preseason last year, but stunk it up in a real game, so this is really a make or break year for his NFL career.
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O Line
Hopefully our Oline holds up better then last year. I’d like to think Sims is the answer to the revolving door we had at left guard last year and hopefully Gos or Jansen steps up their game this year. If so we’ll have a lot more cohesive of a line and hopefully wont have a QB running for his life. If the line does come together like we all want to see, carrying just 2 QBs could be a serious possibility.
Marquand Manuel
I didn’t think he was that bad last year, he just had injury issues correct? Isn’t he the one they ran the story on about his kid?
He wasn't too bad
But I had to leave someone out at safety and I picked him.
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by Sean Yuille on Jul 31, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
crazy thing is im sure we add a player or 2 thru cuts the team looks nice with its depth
Next move trade for Jarrad Page
by DetroitLions 4 life on Jul 31, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
+1
It would be nice if other teams were looking at our cuts, instead of the other way around.
by RobertPorcher on Jul 31, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice 1st List Sean
Call me crazy but i don’t see Dorsey getting cut, also Young and Campbell have a shot. I like DeVries and McBride so it will be interesting, i think that the Lions could cut Flu and keep an extra DE and rotate McBride at both positions.
Rootin for Caleb Campbell, Chima, Berry/Williams
Basically the young guys with potential. If they don’t make the week-one 53, I would like to see them at some point this year.
I also think Manuel will be kept for sure, his experience (and leadership) is something that is needed among that young secondary
wow
didnt realize how thin we are at some positions. I think we need another DE before preseason starts, but i agree with teh 53 man roster
The beginning of the end of the misery
My list would probably be much the same
Only things I might’ve done differently is:
Cut Stanton and replace him with a Fullback like Clapp.
Switch Turk McBride with Williw Young.
Switch Dante Wesley with Aaron Berry
Everything else seems fine to me.
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offense:
QB- id cut Stanton, however at same time id look for a possible different 3rd stringer to replace him this person probably wont see any playtime anyhow. Or a different development QB w/ a little more potential of being a solid back up should Hill go down. to opt out of that 3rd string and take a player at another position for developing. [which deep down im kinda hoping they do]
RB- Though Brown showed some explosiveness last season, i really think Dorsey will probably beat him out.
WR- This was a little trickier because you want someone in place in case your number 1 or 2 go down, right now we have no definitive slot receiver who would or has shown to step up maybe another year in the offense will help but I think Northcutt will not be on that final roster to give way for one of the younger guys like toone
Def
DE- i know it makes sense to roster 5 but i believe it will be only 4 since they intend for Suh to move around a little bit, and give Sammie more play time. So add McBride or Devries to that list . But if 5 i could also see them going route of that 5th being the more development player that shows more promise where Young gets the nod for me over the other two if he had strong camp or preseason.
CB- pending if there is a cut on roster i could see them taking an extra CB this year like Berry over say Stanton (yes i know hes QB but i mean as far as actual number alotted on roster and potential use) or if they went the 4 DE or seeing King or Wesley getting cut for “promise” and potential.
One thing is for sure they know how bad or good they are on paper and on the field. If your still building for the future and know your gonna “take one for the team” why not take the chance in those areas you lack w/ those unproven since those who had chance didnt prove it yet, this is where i see some of the youth getting the nod over vets as the roster whittles down towards the final roster.
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