Lions Training Camp Notes: 53-Man Cutdown Will Be Much Tougher This Year
by Sean Yuille on Aug 12, 2010 3:53 PM EDT
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Print- The Lions aren't completely sure how long Matthew Stafford will play on Saturday just yet.
- Steelers coach Mike Tomlin isn't going to name a starter for Saturday's game and he wouldn't even say if Ben Roethlisberger will play or not.
- Jim Schwartz thinks it's going to be a lot tougher to trim the roster down to 53 players this year, and that is a good thing because so many players have shown they deserve to be on the team.
- Despite the hot weather (it got over 90 degrees), 1,062 fans showed up for Tuesday's afternoon practice. That is the largest crowd for a practice at the Lions' facility in Allen Park so far this training camp.
- Today the Lions turned their focus to getting ready for the Steelers game.
- DeAndre Levy is understandably frustrated with his back injury.
- Matt Clapp apparently struggled mightily in a one-on-one blocking drill. Jake Nordin and Jerome Felton, on the other hand, performed the best of all the backs in it.
- Jonathan Wade excelled in a one-on-one passing drill.
- Kevin Smith has been very impressive in regards to how far ahead of schedule he is.
- DeDe Dorsey, who was featured in Hard Knocks last year with the Bengals, is glad there aren't always cameras around this year during training camp. Turk McBride, who was on the show a few years ago with the Chiefs, thinks all of the commotion with the show could be a distraction for players. Jim Schwartz has already said that he wouldn't want the Lions to be part of the show, so that won't be a concern as long as he is the coach.
- Matthew Stafford has been very accurate in practice.
- Jahvid Best is the fourth-likeliest player to win the AP Offensive Rookie of the Year Award, according to Sportsbook.com.
- Amari Spievey apparently thought that Lions Hall of Famer Charlie Sanders played running back, so Sanders and Calvin Johnson had some fun with it and pranked him after practice in front of the whole team. Spievey says he was aware that Sanders' first name was Charlie rather than Barry and that he simply didn't know the Hall of Famer played tight end, but the team still had some laughs over it.
- Caleb Campbell is finally going to make his NFL debut on Saturday.
- Nate Burleson once again wants to win the award for best dressed NFL player.
- A Lions fan from the Upper Peninsula is walking 425 miles to Allen Park to show his support for the Lions. Now that is devotion.
- Jim Schwartz has a different take on the Madden curse, and it involves his kids saying he looks fat in the game.
- Tiki Barber thinks the Lions are a dark horse in the NFC and that they could win at least nine games.
- Bleeding Green Nation has posts breaking down four new rules changes this year.
- It looks as though another former Lions quarterback, Jeff Garcia, is headed to the UFL.
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I guess when Wade said he wants to be a Pro Bowler
he was serious. Its great that Cambell will finally get to play in the NFL.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
Even with the injuries still popping up...
…the Lions have definite direction and are finally catching some respect. They have a lot of prove yet, obviously. But I think they go a strong 6-10 this year IF (and this is a big IF) we can stay relatively healthy. Problem is, we have yet to do that anytime in recent years.
USE THE SCHWARTZ!!!
and by strong 6-10
I mean they aren’t easy to beat in most of the games they do lose.
USE THE SCHWARTZ!!!
Two consistent themes
we’ve been hearing through out training camp is that Stafford has been very accurate and Wade is doing a very good job in one on one coverage. It’s obviously not happening in live games, but it’s definitely encouraging to hear.
Where is the update on Richard Dickson??
…been dying to know.
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by Slum Village Allstar on Aug 12, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
Supposedly having a good camp
But not any room at TE on the 53-man roster. Practice squad candidate most likely.
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That is good to hear.
You know, he could have been drafted in the second round.
Screw P90x and get on the Brian Cushing Workout Plan.
by Slum Village Allstar on Aug 12, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
hear that from his agent?
what a jackass lolol.
not you, the agent.
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by GhostManOnThird on Aug 13, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
For once, Lion's castaways will be a hot commodity !
Imagine that ? A damn good sign ! You know, we’ll snag some keepers too from others on final cutdown. " I gotta feeling " ( The Black Eyed Peas ) the practice squad will be strong also. Hell, 6 & 10 is very realistic. Come on, Saturday afternoon !
" I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this. " " What are you doin' here? You oughta be out in a convertible bird-doggin' chicks and bangin' beaver. " " Medication time. Medication time. " ( One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - 1975 )
I always liked Tiki Barber, so to hear something like that from him is pretty cool
I forgot who it was (Peter King?) but I remember reading a column that said if we were in the NFC West, we’d win the division, which essentially means an 8-8 or 9-7 season.
"Chicks who dig home runs aren't the ones who appeal to me. I think there's sexiness in infield hits because they require technique. I'd rather impress the chicks with my technique than with my brute strength. Then, every now and then, just to show I can do that, too, I might flirt a little by hitting one out." - Ichiro
by WhiteWinterHymnal on Aug 12, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions
Something that concerns me...
I don’t know how much credibility Tom Kowalski has nowadays, but he recently posted that the Coaching staff doesn’t like Amari Spievey much at all, and that his injury is making it a possibility that he doesn’t even make the final roster. Has anyone else heard anything from anywhere else regarding this? I thought despite being a step slower then you would like in an NFL corner he was the kind of guy this coaching staff would like.
It was just kind of shocking to hear. I just assumed Gun and Schwartz supported drafting Spievey.
Thats disappointing to hear.
I would hope that management wouldn’t post something like that. At least until the coaching staff have tried everything possible.
by coolbreeze42 on Aug 12, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Tom Kowalski
I’ve pretty much stopped paying attention to about 70% of what Kowrongski says anymore. It just seems more often then not his reports are mostly incorrect. I give Sean much more credibility then I do Kowalski.
by BBlades on Aug 12, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think just about everyone here does.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
by JCruize on Aug 12, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You scared me with your comment
I went to read the article in question and I have some trouble buying most of it. OK, I can see the scouting dept having to sell the coaches on Follet; he was a 7th rounder. I can’t buy that the coaches were not high on their 3rd round pick. If they didn’t love Follet, well who else is there in the 7th… just take the guy. But Spievey? If the coaches didn’t like the guy there were tions of other DBs they could have grabbed.
It sounds a lot more like Kow wanted to tell a story about Millen’s dysfunctional FO and used Spievey as a hook. Don’t tell me what you think you saw, tell me what happened.
if you are referring to the article posted below...
then i am not concerned a bit. that writing is just hyperbolic rubbish. i guess you make up an angle by suggesting conflict between scouts and coaching staff. Spievey is hurt; coaches are disappointed they can’t get a good look at the guy. end of story. don’t read anything else into it.
At # 66 he better get every chance
If the Lions fail to give the 66th pick overall in this years draft a legit chance, to make the team that will be a bunch of BS i tell you what. He should get alot of playing time in these last 2 pre season games with out a doubt.
Brown & Williams know what thats all about, a couple of mistakes early in the season, and all of a sudden their both on the bench, you dont get much better sitting on your backside. Their replacements were slow & slower aka Northcut & Morris, were nothing but average at best.
Brown & Felton should have had all the carries that Morris got, when KS went down with an acl injury, Morris had one good game, i believe they both double his output if they did. And that would have made this years draft a little different, all of a sudden AB & JF are solid contributors and the lions dont need a RB early they could of upgraded the back field with the extra pick.
Play the best, cut the old average savvy dependable hangers on, like Northcut/Morris/DeVries,
the Lions future depends on it. this is suppose to be a rebuilding team in that case they dont belong.
I expect Matty to play about 1 quarter
Maybe 1 and a half.
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Can someone just pick that dude up
I don’t think he is doing the walk as publicity. I think he had his car repoed in this economy.
Lol ...
But seriously .. That is devotion … I am pretty sure not many fans would do that … if any more than him. I certainly wouldn’t. .. He could have done it for a different cause .. and he is doing it for the Lions ..
He will probably get good (free) seats for this season home games :)
Wishing him the best …
Take it for what it is. CBS Rapid Report on Caleb
LB Caleb Campbell has gotten respect from teammates and coaches alike this camp. He is still adjusting to the LB position, but his work ethic makes up for short-term mistakes. The Lions think he’s a project worth the effort. He’s a good bet to make the club.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
Yep
That’s what I posted 2 days back in the 53 man roster post Sean wrote at SBNation Detroit .. He has doesn’t have Caleb in the 53 .. and I am pretty sure he will make it ..
It takes a lot of dedication to come back after 2 years and give it your all again … It seems he has what it takes ..
They will give him a chance.
LB is a new position and with the layoff… he must really have something to still be there.
by coolbreeze42 on Aug 12, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see him make it
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by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 13, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
A trade on the way? Read towards the bottom
by delusional on Aug 12, 2010 10:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So ...
Guess they are hinting at Page or Revis .. Has to be a bigger than normal splash for it to be a Christmas gift .. and Big smiles ..
Finger’s crossed …
I would say....
Page would be the target. I just don’t see the Jets trading Revis.
by delusional on Aug 12, 2010 10:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Page is more likely
But Revis would fit the Christmas gift more.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
The question
which one would you rather have? A hard hitting safety to pair with another hard hitting safety? Or would you rather have one of the leagues best corner backs?
and at what cost?
Personally I would rather have the CB. And put Phillips or who ever on Revis’ side. Delmas can prowl the other side with the weaker CB
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
After years of drafting at the upper end of the 1st round for years, I’d venture a guess and say Revis is way out the Lions league money wise no matter how bad they would want him. The Jets and Revis are 40 mil apart in contract numbers.
by delusional on Aug 12, 2010 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i really hope that this michael sudds fellow knows what he's talking about.
if so, i will fucking freak if we add someone.
do NOT see revis coming here, let alone us paying him what he wants.
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by GhostManOnThird on Aug 13, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
+1 No way we can get Revis
"I’d probably get arrested because football’s my only time I get to go out there and hit people as hard as I can, and it’s legal," Follett said. "I need that once a year."
by Rick Chaffee on Aug 13, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I stopped reading after bleacher report
Take it with a grain of salt
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by Sean Yuille on Aug 13, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
No doubt
How about this paragraph
Gunther Cunningham stopped by and spent quite a while with Ali and I. We talked about Randy Phillips. Gunner beamed, "He’s always been my guy. When I spoke with his college coach Urban Meyer, he couldn’t say enough good things about Phillips."
Wow. Urban Meyer of UF coached a Miami Safety? I know the guy is a workaholic, but coaching other teams is usually frowned on. I assume the entire report has as much veracity as a Ralph post.
They changed the quote
Gunther Cunningham stopped by and spent quite a while with Ali and I. We talked about Randy Phillips. Gunner beamed, "He’s always been my guy. When I spoke with his defensive coordinator (Lions DB coach Tim Walton), he couldn’t say enough good things about Phillips." Gunner could not hide his pride.
I was never a journalism major or anything so I don’t know the rules, but I thought that stuff in quotes attributed to a person was supposed to be verbatim. It seems like this guy is just putting whatever he kind of recalls into Gunther’s mouth.
Gunther is one hellaious name dropper. Even if he’s full of it.
by delusional on Aug 13, 2010 1:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think its a made up quote
I mean, would a Def Coord in the NFL not know who Urban Meyer is? And isn’t the DB coach for Miami now working for the Lions? So Gunther accidentally mixed up the top college coach with a guy who works for him? I don’t think Gunther would make this mistake. More likely the “reporter” made some quotes up for his “story”
Well anyway...........
Just the thought of some defensive backfield help got me through a long night at work, even if the rumor turns out to be a bunch of hogwash.
After the accelerated pace of revamping the team this off season, I sure would like to think the Mayhew is going to make one last try to stick some serious additional talent in the backfield to plug the weakest hole left on the team.
Hey, I like any story from training camp
And I love rumors as well. I hope we are getting a big player coming in somehow.
LOL
The writer of that rumor blamed his sticking of Urban Meyers name into that article instead of Tim Walton’s on a lack of coffee.
Okay, whatever
Urban Meyer——Tim Walton,,,,,very easy to get confused with not enough coffee……lol
So.. Let me get this straight
Are guys suggesting that some of the things at are posted on the internet, are not 100% accurate? Shit! But can I still enlarge the size of my penis?
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
I know! Right!!
Those fuckers.
I think the wandering quote is just an example of why we shouldn’t put too much stock in this guys “sources” or rumor of a big trade coming.
And no need for enlargers, my friend. You will always be a huge dick in my book.
lol..I get that alot. I thought I was just an asshole.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
53 man roster
It shouldnt be that hard for Schwartz, about who to keep and who to cut, keep the best at each position regardless period. Dont keep a guy kuz hes a veteran,reliable and savvy and dependable, keep him kuz hes more talented and runs faster and breaks more tackle or gains more yards gets more sacks.
Take Morris for instance, ,hes competing with Dorsey for the #3 RB spot, who has more upside. Morris runs the ball and catches passes, he is just average nfl talent at best, hes 4 years older than D D hes slower has less burst and isnt quite as hungry as D D.
Dorsey can play special teams, he knows how to block a kick he did so 16 time in college, hes scored on 3 KRs had 7 INTs his first year in college. He was defensive player of the year one year, switched to offense the next and won the award on the offensive side of the ball. He has a super bowl ring, with the Colts he averaged almost 9 yards a carrie a game
before getting hurt and was released, this kid could be a big part of the lions future, Morris has very little nfl future left at all especially on a team that is rebuilding.
Dont get me started on Northcut, what a waste of time he is.
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