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Lions Overcome 10-Point Halftime Deficit To Beat Browns, 35-27

The Lions improved to 2-1 in the preseason by beating the Cleveland Browns today by a score of 35-27. Detroit trailed at halftime by 10 points, but Matthew Stafford led the Lions to a touchdown to open the third quarter and Shaun Hill led the backups to a pair of second half touchdowns, both of which were scored by Aaron Brown.

The first quarter gave us all a look at Jahvid Best's explosiveness. Following a long drive that only produced a field goal for Cleveland, Best opened Detroit's first drive of the game with a 51-yard run. Two plays later, Matthew Stafford found Bryant Johnson for a seven-yard touchdown.

The Lions looked to be in very good shape on their next drive, but a Kevin Smith fumble was returned for a 44-yard touchdown. That changed the complexion of the first half, as the Lions' offense didn't do a whole lot in the second quarter, partly because of a number of penalties. The defense also struggled, giving up two touchdowns before halftime.

In the second half, things went much better for Detroit on both sides of the ball. To open the third quarter, Stafford led Detroit to a touchdown drive that was capped off by a two-yard run by Smith. Later on, Hill led Detroit to two touchdown drives, both of which followed a Cleveland fumble and were capped off by Aaron Brown.

The Lions will finish up the preseason on Thursday at home against the Buffalo Bills. The starters will not play much, if at all, so it will be a game for the backups to show that they deserve a spot on the roster. Kickoff is set for 6:30 p.m., although the game will not be shown locally until later in the night because it won't be a sellout.

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Is it too early to start talking about the showdown for ROY...

Best Vs. Spiller Vs. Bradford…

It should be a good one, Best looks like he’s gonna bring the heat…

by MatthewDC on Aug 28, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Obviously

the front office had no clue giving up a draft position to Minnesota to pick up this bum.

"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching

by RealityIsOptionable on Aug 28, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

bradford dosen't have a shot IMO

Spiller to much competion wuth no passing threat. do the math guys :)

Suh,Williams,Avril,VandenBosch
With the Four Horsemen ride,Or choose your fate and die

by The Profiler on Aug 28, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matthews

is the real competition.

by Trysdor on Aug 28, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent to see Shaun Hill with back to back TDs, same with Brown

I was pissed the defense was giving up so many points, but at least Detroit had the firepower to take the victory.

I don’t want add player does not have blue collar mentality,
even if he is great player. Piston should not quit your job. - OK from J

by Skylar on Aug 28, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Decent game...

I was glad to see Cleveland was able to set a decent game plan so the DBs could learn from their deficiencies.

…. After this game, I’m not sure K Smith is going to make this roster. As a GM I would be shopping the crap out of him as a back field of Best, Mo Morris and brown would be fine with me.

by CLF on Aug 28, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

completely agree

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Aug 28, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not sold on that 100% but I could buy it.

DeDe is the clear odd man out to me. Brown showed some progress tonight IMO. He looks like a solid kick returner too. But still I only see 3 backs staying and I like Best and Brown so move Smith or Morris, whoever you can get a deal done for.

by Evilsmurf on Aug 29, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was pretty happy with the performance...here's my rundown

 - Stafford looked dynamite. Very confident, very comfortable. One thing I have noticed about his play is how cautious he is with the ball. He doesn’t always try to fit it into crazy holes anymore. He picks his spots and delivers it with pace. I seriously hope he carries this form into and throughout the season because if he then he may not be far off a pro-bowl call-up. Big words I know, but that’s how he looks so far.

 - Best, I mean, what do you say that isn’t already encompassed by his name. He only had one carry, but that was enough to have me as high as a kite. Smith on the other hand had a very up and down day, possibly more down then up. He managed a TD and a few decent runs, but he also had a costly fumble and a couple of meagre runs. He’ll need to pick it up if he doesn’t want to drop down the depth chart.

The other backs showed a bit as well, Aaron Brown managed 2 TDs and looked very shifty, while Felton ran just about as good as I’ve ever seen him as a Lion. He ran with purpose, strength and surprising speed.

 - The Offensive Line played well since I didn’t really notice them. Gos had that one bad penalty which wiped a big gain but other than that they gave Stafford the time to execute.

 - No real bright spots from the receivers, just solid play all round. CJ had two big catches, BJ managed a good TD catch and our TEs performed well.

 - I don’t know what to think of the defensive line. They looked dominant the past two weeks, but couldn’t produce the same amount of pressure against the Browns. In saying that though, it wasn’t a total bust for them. Avril and KVB managed to produce pressure at times, but often a costly penalty would negate…case in point, Suh’s facemask penalty. Once again, the pick of the young ones was Willie Young who managed to get a sack fumble which sealed the game. He’s becoming a favourite player of mine.

 - LB’s appear to be a problem to me. Levy missed pretty much the whole game and no one really stood out. Peterson made some plays, but he’s a gamer so that is expected. Follet didn’t do anything to dampen the criticism he’s been getting of late either.

 - Ups and downs also appeared in the secondary. Houston managed a TD recovery, but not much else and King was horrible…again. At safety, Delmas played only a small portion, and done enough to show how much of a leader he is with a good 3rd down pass deflection. Phillips was all over the place making tackles and forcing a fumble. Spievey also showed up with a sack and a couple of decent tackles. He did allow a big catch to Cribbs though.

Overall, it was a performance where the offence led the team, with the defence doing enough to get the win. I wanna see the defence step up their game to the offence’s standard by the start of the regular season, and if they do, we may just have a good team on our hands here fellas.

RIP Robyn Bailey 1961 - 2010. I love you mum.

by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 28, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Excellent observations!

Our Defensive line finally came against a good OLine (Joe thomas is a pro-bowl caliber LT) and that exposed our defense. Even then Delhomme missed a couple of passes that he should of had and I bet it was due to the pressure of our line (well I hope thats why, maybe Delhomme just isn’t that good).

As for K Smith… It usually takes a good year to get back to 100% after the injury he had. Unfortunately, we won’t be able to give him that time. I’m sure he will fall down the chart to our #3 RB.

There is one really good thing to remember… Chicago’s OLine really sucks! I’d be pretty concerned if I was a Chicago fan!

by coolbreeze42 on Aug 28, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding the D-Line's ineffectiveness,

I believe Cleveland knew coming into the game that this was Detroit’s strong point on defense, so they came up with a game plan to negate that strength. Almost every passing play was a quick 3 step drop and a fast throw from Delhomme. Timing routes.
It was a smart move by the Cleveland coaching staff. They put all of the pressure on our coverage, and I think we all know how good that unit is. (Not very.)
If we had big physical corners that could stand up the WR’s at the line of scrimmage, then this offensive game plan would not have worked. We don’t have any of those guys though. (Not that I wanna go back to a Tampa-2 (blech), but I think it would’ve been more effective than man to man with our crummy corners.)

by RobertPorcher on Aug 29, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That first string defense stopped the Browns offense

one time out of 5 possessions while allowing 3 touchdowns and one field goal.

Our D looked miserable. short drops and quick passes. negate the D line and cherry pick the defensive back field.

We better get a ton better back there or we are in for a very long season again.

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Aug 28, 2010 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

that was first half only btw

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Aug 28, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were not on the field for one touchdown.

Remember? The fumble recovery?

Giving up seventeen points in a half, and all those yards was not encouraging. They remain a work in progress. Especially without Delmas and Levy.

by NorthLeft12 on Aug 29, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well thier offense was only sending out 3 on passes, always keeping an extra body in to protect.

And it showed. Delhome had way too much time back there. I actually fault the coaches for not blitzing more, I don’t put that on the players. I do put the stupid penalties on them though. KVB is showing that he is a double edged sword with that high motor of his, though he might be a good player he is costing us with those penalties and keeping opposition drives on the field when they should be punting. Suh’s penalty I had to laugh at. First he face masked the guy then tried to rip his head off from his neck. At least he got his money’s worth. I think we all knwo the defense is still a year away from being anything close to dominant though. Bly looked decent, Delmas was solid as always, and Phillips continues to impress. J. P. actually stepped it up a notch that was good to see.

by Evilsmurf on Aug 29, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blitzing

I think that Gun wants to see how much pressure he can create with just the D line. I know they blitzed Spievey on one occasion, but that may have been just to see how he does blitzing from the safety position. It’s preseason, you don’t want to give toooooo much of your tricks away. Gun may have some interesting blitz packages dialed up that he doesn’t want to show on tape until the regular season starts. I think even with the Browns only sending three that the front four was able to shrink the pocket pretty well and make it hard for Delhome to step up.

by BBlades on Aug 29, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't think Delhomme had "way too much time back there".

He was just getting rid of it before the pressure could get there.

by RobertPorcher on Aug 29, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gunthers top priority

Has to be limit penaltys. the flags were inexcusable we can’t have those period. Let alone multiple times in a drive.

Suh,Williams,Avril,VandenBosch
With the Four Horsemen ride,Or choose your fate and die

by The Profiler on Aug 28, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

6 penalties in the second Q alone. inexcusable might be an understatement.

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Aug 28, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 penalties in the second Q alone

….and they had I think 1 penalty in the rest of the game (including the first quarter).

by BBlades on Aug 28, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penalties have crippled this team for like a decade.

Definitely need to really cut those down.

I don’t want add player does not have blue collar mentality,
even if he is great player. Piston should not quit your job. - OK from J

by Skylar on Aug 28, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

King

Needs to be relinquished of a starting role. He just is bad. How many times did Rob Rubick have to say he doesn’t located the ball before you figured it out? lol.

Hopefully Bly steps up and Wade comes back fast. We need someone to help our secondary and also the linebacker core. Hopefully we can get a veteran off the waiver wire once final cuts are made. There always seems to be some poor dude who gets cut because a rookie “seems” to play better.

If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.

by LionsGuy4Ever on Aug 28, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey

Yeah .. pretty cool … Didn’t settle for 3 …

by Libran on Aug 29, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spievey

I thought Spievey looked pretty good considering he was just changed from corner to safety. He gave up the big play to Cribbs and didn’t wrap up on that HIllis, aside from that I thought he looked decent. They gave him plenty of playing time. Was CC Brown ever in? They started the game with Delmas and Randy Phillips.

by BBlades on Aug 28, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

never saw CC out there

Spievey looked much better than i would have ever dreamed. Impressive for a guy just changed from CB to S a few days ago.

He seemed like he was out there reacting. Phillips was out there Attacking, so impressed with him so far.

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Aug 28, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think CC was injured or something

He wasn’t dressed for the game. I’m not sure he’ll be making the team anyway so its not too big a deal.

by joecool5672 on Aug 29, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Amari tends to throw himself at players like some cornerbacks do. He needs to knock that off and work on wrapping. I hear he has a reputation as a hard hitter…but there are some guys in this league you just can’t slam your body into and expect to take them down. Hillis seems to be one of those players. He’s not gonna be able to just slam into Adrian Peterson.

by BBlades on Aug 29, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rookies

Are coming along nicely aren’t they? It is good to see the fruits of a pretty solid draft. Yes, Suh hasn’t got a sack but just imagine his big ass arm not knocking down balls or getting double teams and well we would be getting handed every game.

Phillips could be good if they work with him. Spivey as well. Willie Young has been making some noise, Toone hasn’t done too much but could make the team.

Put that together with last years draft and the team is coming together. Next year you better bet your sweet patooty that Schwartz and CO is drafting defense!

If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.

by LionsGuy4Ever on Aug 28, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

We can hope

they still want to draft best player available.

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Aug 28, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully that player is a corner/free safety or LB. I think we will be looking at a new ROLB next year or MLB. Then, CB or safety. Any good ones coming out?

If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.

by LionsGuy4Ever on Aug 28, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Suh hasn’t got a sack but just imagine his big ass arm not knocking down balls or getting double teams and well we would be getting handed every game.

It happens when you miss all of training camp…but I must say, I do love his intensity.

And I quote: "Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans" - ralphgoblue

by DBB Diablo on Aug 28, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

His motor is outstanding. And this is only his third game. Plus, he was only playing 2 or 3 downs every series. Once they leave him out there for all the whole game in the fourth quarter when all those old centers/guards are getting winded he will be dragging down folks like nobody’s business.

If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.

by LionsGuy4Ever on Aug 28, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a conditioning issue, there was a couple of series where he was getting off the line kind of slow in the 2nd quarter.

Doesn’t worry me, he seems very enthusiastic, he’s young, and he isn’t “fat” like a lot of other DTs. More game time run and conditioning during practices and he such look like a beast by week 4 or 5.

And I quote: "Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans" - ralphgoblue

by DBB Diablo on Aug 28, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He only missed 4 days and he is a beast as far as conditioning goes.

IMO Suh is playing amazing for a rookie. I predict 4 sacks for him this year and that is pretty good for a rookie that is getting double teams even from a multiple pro bowler line.

by Evilsmurf on Aug 29, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

4 sacks would be a lot for even a veteran DT

DT isn’t a position that usually produces a lot of sacks. Usually only when a play breaks down.

by RobertPorcher on Aug 29, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toone

The problem with Toone when they played him is simple. He’s a prototypical Y or slot receiver. When they were playing him later in the game he never lined up as slot (that I saw). He was lining up as the Z or flanker most of the time. The Z is typically your number 1 receiver. That’s where he was lined up when they tried to throw him a fade in the corner of the end zone. If Toone’s going to make his living, it’s gonna be playing slot and playing like a Wes Welker or Mike Furrey style. A guy who is gonna go across the middle and catch the ball even if his head is gonna get taken off. I’ve seen the tape of this guy from college and he looks fully capable of being that guy. They just aren’t lining him up like that with the 2’s and 3’s. Actually, take that back a little. I think he was lined up in the slot on Aaron Brown’s big run before his 1 or 2 yard td run. But I wanna see what he can do with the 1’s in the slot.

by BBlades on Aug 29, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Toone will be practice squaded

no doubt. We’ve already got a slot receiver in Burleson who can also stretch the field. I like toone and all but I just don’t think he has a place on the 53 man roster.

by joecool5672 on Aug 29, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

ugh.

Toone = Furrey = Welker = whatever other white guys you can think of.

I’m sick of the comparisons.

by RobertPorcher on Aug 29, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, when I listed people I wasn’t thinking of white guys. I was thinking of slot receivers that I thought have been good players in the past few years.

by BBlades on Aug 29, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well IMO Toon is just a tease

I like the guy but from what I see he has just enough to make you want to see more, which in my book ultimately is not enough. I hope he proves me wrong.

by Evilsmurf on Aug 29, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah... I've been waiting...

He seemed to choke on “his chance” that schwartz gave him.

I was rooting for him, but don’t think he’ll make the final cut.

by CLF on Aug 29, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

I would like to see him out there, for a series or two with the first team running in the slot, just to see how he would do.

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Aug 29, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else get turned on from this ?

And I quote: "Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans" - ralphgoblue

by DBB Diablo on Aug 28, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Favre just pooped in his depends.

If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.

by LionsGuy4Ever on Aug 28, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Best didn’t play the rest of the game because Detroit coach Jim Schwartz said his legs were tight.

From yahoo,

I think it was something more like this:

Best didn’t play the rest of the game because Detroit coach Jim Schwartz said his legs were tight. he had a full-fledged hardy from watching that 51 yard run and was embarrassed.

If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.

by LionsGuy4Ever on Aug 28, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly

When he knocks that off on his first play, what more do you want to see. Have him take a seat and enjoy some gatorade.

by ATL Lion on Aug 28, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hecks yeah. Just imagine one or two or even three per game of 25-50 or more runs and well we all have hard ons.

If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.

by LionsGuy4Ever on Aug 28, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone has

said this but.. i hope everyone saw suh’s demolition of delhomme. I know it was probably a dumb penalty, but his strength and toughness were on full display when he basically ripped off delhomme’s head, put it back on and then body slammed him. that was sick. i haven’t seen d-tackle/line toughness like him and kvb in a while. i can’t wait till they’re doing that to qb’s when they still have the ball in their hands, preferably cutler week 1.

by asol8mc1 on Aug 28, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Does anyone else get turned on from this ?

And I quote: "Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans" - ralphgoblue

by DBB Diablo on Aug 29, 2010 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't think it's hate.....

I think it’s just a reaction to another mediocre performance by Smith.
Is this going to be how he plays all season or, is this just Kevin getting back
to the grind after missing so much.
He’s still at least, the #2 back. We can all be so fickle. Brown played well but,
wasn’t getting any love over the last month when questions about who would
make our RB’s came up.
Trust in “The Schwartz” and Linehan to keep our best group for the season.
Should be fun to see the circus Thursday. You know, almost all 2nd and 3rd
teamers doing their thing.

Expectations don't produce!

by 2manyears on Aug 29, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

had pretty good argument last night about this point exactly

too many people are holding on with there feelings rather than looking at the numbers… I mean he will still be on the team but Aaron Brown was running good and hard last night. Unlike mr banana peel foot, when you say man our team will fourish under the change of pace backs. Your not saying speedy, athletic, with great vision… mixed with baby deer legs slow guy.

by Gyorick on Aug 29, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Smiff looked good.

He always wants to take it inside. I like the guts that he shows.
However, I saw one play on the goal line that got blown up because the lead block (Nordin) went to the outside (and it wasn’t a great block, but it appeared to seal the edge), and he tried to take it up the middle … where there were 4 Cleveland defenders bustin’ through the line. If he had followed his lead blocker on that play, I think it would’ve been a TD, or at least not a loss of yardage.

by RobertPorcher on Aug 29, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't this Kevin's first game back after an injury?

I think Kevin lands that backup position, fumblitis not withstanding. He’s familiar with the playbook and has some legs under him when he can find openings, he just won’t see many goal line/short yardage touches. You’ve got to think of things in terms of “what if…” If Best were to go down for a few games, I just couldn’t see Mo-mo being “that guy.”

Like the kool-aid icon – exactly what I think about whenever I read Lions pre-season discussions.

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi

by AdamA on Aug 29, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Hate?"

Please don’t mix ‘hate’ with reality.

… and ‘feelings’ have nothing to do with making the team.

Would you really want a coach or GM to keep a guy on the roster because they “feel bad” that he isn’t up to par after an injury???

IF THAT is the case… K Smith needs to be put on the PUP so they can keep Aaron Brown or Mo Morris on the roster.

You can’t have feelings in player evaluations. From what I have seen so far in the preseason games…. we need to gain in other positions and are expendable in the RB position, which lead me to the trade proposition.

by CLF on Aug 29, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't write off Dede

he had a good game last week. Anybody else notice what Fowler has done for 2 weeks?

by waltdetroit on Aug 29, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Fowler has looked very promising ...

… against a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string players. He’s not going to make the 53-man roster. He might not even make the practice squad.

by RobertPorcher on Aug 29, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one that I am really happy about and noone has mentioned...

Was Julian Peterson. This week, I finally feel like Peterson showed us a hard charging motor, his crazy strength, and veteran presence.

I don’t know about everyone else but I feel like he underperformed last year. Luckily I think he is familiar with the system now and really starting to enjoy it. He looked like a monster on several plays yesterday.

by MatthewDC on Aug 29, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Smooth Julias looked awesome last night

aside – Matthew do u live in DC? When the lions play the redskins we go to the front page

by waltdetroit on Aug 29, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Houston looking good

Stepping up in the 3rd year. Seems like it takes just about 3 years for most CB’s to get to there full potential.

by momentumchange on Aug 29, 2010 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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