Detroit Lions 53-Man Roster Prediction (Pre-Preseason Finale Edition)
Previously: Pre-training camp edition, pre-Steelers game edition
It has been a few weeks since my last roster prediction, so with the preseason coming to an end tonight, I figured it was time to put together my final thoughts on how the Lions' 53-man roster is shaping up. You can check out my predictions and explanations below, and feel free to make your own 53-man roster prediction in the comments.
Quarterback
Keep (3): Matthew Stafford, Shaun Hill, Drew Stanton
Cut: None
If I were making the cuts, I would get rid of Stanton and carry only two quarterbacks on the roster. I don't think the Lions will do that, which is why I have all three QBs making the team, but it would give Detroit an extra spot for depth at a position where it is much more needed.
Running Back
Keep (4): Jahvid Best, Kevin Smith, Aaron Brown, Maurice Morris
Cut: DeDe Dorsey
One of the biggest battles for a roster spot is at running back. All five backs are deserving of making the team, but only three or four spots are there. As a result, I think Dorsey will be the odd man out, meaning Best, Smith, Brown and Morris will all make it. Brown got the edge because he is a better returner and special teams player, so I think his spot is safe going forward.
On the flip side, for Smith and Morris I would not at all be surprised if the Lions move one of them after the final round of roster cuts. Just like getting rid of a third QB, moving a fourth RB would allow the Lions to add depth at a position where it is much more needed. I don't believe the Lions will just outright cut Smith or Morris, though, as Detroit should be able to get something out of them via a trade if the decision to make a move is made.
Fullback
Keep (1): Jerome Felton
Felton is both a fullback and a power running back, which, to me, makes it more likely that someone like Smith or Morris will be moved.
Wide Receiver
Keep (4): Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, Bryant Johnson, Derrick Williams
Cut: Brian Clark, Mike Moore, Dennis Northcutt, Tim Toone
I could see the Lions keeping a fifth receiver, and I would expect it to be Clark if they do, because he is a solid special teams player. In order to keep players where depth is more of an issue, however, I opted to take only four receivers. Moore and Toone both have a great shot of making the practice squad, so if an injury happens to a top-four receiver, the Lions will be able to quickly make a move. Going with five just didn't seem necessary to me, though, especially keeping someone like Northcutt, who really just hasn't shown a lot this preseason.
Tight End
Keep (3): Brandon Pettigrew, Tony Scheffler, Will Heller
Cut: Dan Gronkowski
Gronkowski has played well enough to make the team, but there just isn't room on the roster. If the Lions can, they will keep him on the practice squad, but I'd be willing to bet another team picks him up if he is indeed let go.
Offensive Tackle
Keep (4): Jeff Backus, Gosder Cherilus, Jon Jansen, Jason Fox
Cut: Corey Hilliard, Cliff Louis
One of the toughest decisions when putting this together involved what to do with Corey Hilliard. He is a solid backup and is someone I'm sure the Lions would like to keep around. If Stanton is let go or a running back is traded, for example, I'd keep Hilliard. With four tackles that likely have spots on the roster locked up, however, there just isn't room for him right now. I know some have suggested cutting ties with Jansen to go in favor of a younger player like Hilliard, but Jansen is pushing Cherilus for a starting job and is a tremendous, versatile backup. It wouldn't make sense to release him.
Offensive Guard
Keep (3): Stephen Peterman, Manny Ramirez, Rob Sims
Cut: Noah Franklin
I still am of the belief that the Lions will keep only three guards and then take a second center who can also line up at guard, so I have only Peterman, Ramirez and Sims making it at this position.
Center
Keep (2): Dominic Raiola, Dylan Gandy
Cut: Dan Gerberry
Gerberry has pushed Gandy quite a bit, but in the end I think Gandy will get the edge for a spot on the 53-man roster.
Defensive End
Keep (5): Kyle Vanden Bosch, Cliff Avril, Turk McBride, Willie Young, Lawrence Jackson
Cut: Korey Bosworth
Vanden Bosch, Avril and McBride have seemed like locks to make the team since the beginning of training camp. Another lock was added when the Lions traded for Jackson from Seattle. Finally, after having a tremendous preseason, I believe Young has not only played well enough to move off the bubble, but I think he is actually a lock for the team. He has raw talent and showed his potential throughout the preseason, making so much progress that he has earned a spot on the 53-man roster for sure.
Defensive Tackle
Keep (4): Ndamukong Suh, Corey Williams, Sammie Hill, Landon Cohen
Cut: Robert Callaway, Andre Fluellen, Jaron Baston
The battle for the fourth defensive tackle spot is really between Cohen and Fluellen. While I originally had Fluellen getting the nod, I think Cohen's work in the preseason will give him a slight edge. One could argue that Fluellen will be kept because he is more versatile, but I think Cohen is a better option at DT.
Linebacker
Keep (7): Julian Peterson, DeAndre Levy, Zack Follett, Isaiah Ekejiuba, Landon Johnson, Vinny Ciurciu, Ashlee Palmer
Cut: Caleb Campbell, Rocky Boiman
I really had a tough time deciding on which linebackers to keep, which is why I decided to hang on to seven rather than six. It's unclear if the Lions will want to take an extra linebacker, but to me it's a better choice than keeping a fifth receiver, as it gives the Lions more depth at a position with many more question marks.
Peterson, Levy and Follett are the only locks at this position. After putting those three on the roster, I kept Johnson, Ciurciu and Palmer, who appear to be entrenched as the second-string unit right now. Ekejiuba was the last LB I decided to keep, as he is an outstanding special teams player and has looked pretty good at MLB this preseason. One could make the argument for keeping Boiman since he is more of a true linebacker and does know the system despite just being signed, but at the end of the day I guess I value special teams more. Besides, Ciurciu has done a good job of filling in for Jordon Dizon as Levy's backup, so unless it looks like Levy will be out for an extended period of time, I think the Lions can get by with guys like Ciurciu and Ekejiuba.
Cornerback
Keep (5): Dre Bly, Chris Houston, Eric King, Jonathan Wade, Dante Wesley
Cut: Aaron Berry, T.J. Rushing
The two-deep at this position appears to set with Houston, Wade, Bly and Wesley. After that, there are two spots left over, and as tough as it was to do, I decided to use one of them on King. Yes, he has been absolutely awful during the preseason, but that's mainly because he hasn't been at nickel back, which is where he is much better. For nickel situations, King is still a decent player, so I think he will make the team. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't, but I don't think the Lions will let him go.
Which player got the other spot is addressed below, but I first want to explain why I didn't keep Berry on the roster. He certainly deserves to make the team based on his play early in training camp, but an injury kept him out for an extended period of time, and as a result I think the Lions will decide to simply put him on the practice squad. I would expect Berry to be on the active roster at some point if he can stay healthy, because he showed some serious potential early on in camp.
Defensive Back
Keep (1): Amari Spievey
Cut: Paul Pratt, Jonathan Hefney
Spievey was moved to safety last week, but he is still practicing a bit at cornerback. As a result, I decided to just call him a DB, the generic term for someone playing both positions. There's no way the Lions will get rid of their third-round pick, so he's on the roster as a versatile DB that can play corner and safety. Pratt could make the team if the Lions decide to release King, but I don't think Hefney has a very good shot of making the 53-man roster.
Safety
Keep (4): Louis Delmas, Ko Simpson, C.C. Brown, Randy Phillips
Cut: John Wendling
Delmas, Brown and Phillips appear to be locks to make the team. The only one whose spot may be in question is Simpson, and that is only because Spievey is now practicing at safety. Because he just made the move last week and because he still is getting some work at corner, I think the Lions will hang on to Simpson. While it's possible that Spievey's move will signal the end of Simpson's career as a Lion, I believe Detroit would rather keep five "true" corners, four safeties and Spievey rather than cutting Simpson and keeping six corners and Spievey.
Special Teams
Keep (3): Jason Hanson, Nick Harris, Don Muhlbach
Cut: Steven Hauschka
Hauschka has looked very good, and if the Lions had an extra roster spot, I could see him getting it just for kickoffs. They don't have an extra spot, however, so I would be shocked if Hauschka isn't cut. Even so, at least he has an impressive highlight reel from the preseason to show teams as he looks for a job.
Practice Squad
8 players: WR Tim Toone, WR Mike Moore, TE Dan Gronkowski, OT Corey Hilliard (I believe he is eligible), C Dan Gerberry, LB Caleb Campbell, CB Aaron Berry, DB Paul Pratt
If DE Chima Ihekwoaba is indeed eligible to be a ninth player because he is from Canada, I could see the Lions putting him on the practice squad despite the fact that he was already released. (For more on the rules of the practice squad, click here.)
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I would pretty much agree
Except I would cut Stanton and keep Toone.
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What has Toone done?
he hasnt impressed me at all.
by BennieBladesFan on Sep 2, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
William, Clark, Toone
I think with these three it’s really a toss up. I think Williams has looked the best out of the three but I think Toone might have more of an upside. I think some time on the practice squad would do him good. Look what it did for Zack Follett. I think Toone could really be like a Wes Welker, or a Steve Breaston,
I wouldn't cut Stanton now
He’s the only QB on the roster with 2 yrs under Martz. They’ll cut him after the Bears game. Too much to learn from him right now.
Sounds about right
I think Gronk and Caleb may make the roster….Maybe toone as well if they can find room for them.
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Eric King
isn’t he the corner that doesn’t turn toward the ball when its thrown? Seems like that’s the case… yep, I’d cut him.
Yes
But that is why his role will be limited to nickel back only. He sucks as an outside corner.
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I think he's ....
“baiting” opponents…lol….
Seriously… King should’ve had 5 picks this preseason. "TURN THE “F” AROUND!!!!!"
by CLF on Sep 2, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding
It reminds me of watching Michigan’s cornerbacks last year. They never play the ball.
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I know you are not talking about Donovan Warren?
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
Lol
He was actually competent, and by the end of the season nobody ever threw in his direction anyways.
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I keep Pratt and let the often injured Simpson go
Spievey is the man for the position moving forward. Pratts abilty to cover a lot of ground in a hurry on the special teams and the way he wraps up on his tackles gets him the nod over Simpson.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if MoMo also got cut with Felton getting more time as a RB and keeping Gronk as an H-Back type of TE
Campbell over Palmer would be my move also due to Caleb’s ST play.
I think King and Rushing have have about the same abilities and wouldn’t be surprised if Rushing wins Kings spot on the roster.
I disagree in a few spots....
LB Rocky Boiman will make it on, and possibly Caleb Campbell which will take out Vinny and Ashlee.
TE Gronkowski will make it aboard pushing Stanton out.
The last possibility is Ko Simpson being axed instead of Stanton, or if in addition will allow the Lions to keep one of Vinny C. or Corey H.
I am sort of amazed that ManRam still makes the team, but I really can’t say I know much about Franklin or Gerberry to say they should make it ahead of him.
Maybe
I think it’s a toss up between Ashlee Palmer and Caleb Campbell. Ashlee Palmer is a better linebacker and he seems to be very physically gifted but Campbell is a good special teamer and very physical. I think Palmer may have the edge but just be a little bit.
Well Palmer plays special teams.
Thats why i think he will make it.
by BennieBladesFan on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I did not remember seeing Palmer do much until this game.
I can see your scenario working out as the deciding factor may be that Caleb can go to the practice squad and Palmer cannot.
Do you think Caleb would make it through waivers onto the practice squad?
Yes
I think they should have no problem with Caleb making it through waivers. While he has looked good, I don’t think he’s shown enough on tape for another team to make take a flier on him.
I actually disagree, Caleb and Wesley shut Cribbs and Clevelands kick returners DOWN
he is worth his weight in gold just as a kick cover man, and IMO is the reason Brian Clark should not make it
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To follow up on my Stanton comment...
No disrespect to him, but I honestly think it’s a huge waste to keep him when there are a lot of other talented players that could actually contribute at other positions but would be squeezed out by keeping Stanton. It’s risky to only take two QBs, but not that risky. I’d much rather take an extra player and get rid of Stanton.
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You know I am a MSU fan
but I have been saying it for a couples of years now. He needs to go.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
Yes I thought the best place for a #3 QB is on the practice squad
If a QB gets injured sign his ass to the roster.
Not arguing, just asking how many NFL teams only carry two QB’s?
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by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 2, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me say, I am not an MSU fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I cannot see cutting Stanton at this point in time. Wayne you do make a very interesting point as I believe Hill and Stanton are on the final year of their contracts. A purely raw #3 QB on the PS could be a flash of genius tactic to use in later years, I just cannot see it this year. To be fair and full disclosure on Stanton I am a Farmington Hills Harrison alumni.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 2, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year I believe four or five teams went into the season with only 2 QBs
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well we went in with only one QB..Stafford
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
by JCruize on Sep 2, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree pretty much everything on Offense …. and special teams is a no brainer
On D .. the D line is fine, but I feel that king, even though he is a good nickel back is gone .. (unless Berry is injured) .. Might go with 3 safeties since we have a S/CB hybrid too ..
I I have both the LB’s you cut making the team, .. Maybe the lions cut 2 other LB’s or cut 1 LB and use 1 S spot for LB ..
I took Callaway out right after I posted it
There should only be 8 now.
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Ekejiuba?
That would be news to me
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97.1
I thought i heard on 97.1 the other day he did get cut.
by EternalOptimist on Sep 2, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you sure you're not thinking about someone else?
Isaiah Ekejiuba is still on the roster
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That's as good a list as I could come up with.
I could see them parting with either Ashlee Palmer, Isaiah Ekejiuba or Ko Simpson to hold on to either Fluellen, Boiman or a fifth receiver. I wish Toone would have shown more as a returner. Either way, it looks like most of the positions are set. I don’t think there will be any major surprises.
Yeah
Good thing is Toone should be on the practice squad.
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Those names even got my oldlady interested
Between Chima and Eukanuba she started paying attention to the the CLE game and was upset over one being cut.
Mistaken
I think there’s a lot of wishful thinking and not much critical thinking that went into this line up. Of course some players are locks, and the one area I agree with absolutely is RB. With Felton running as well as he has gives them even more depth therefore allowing them to cut Maurice. He’s only looked mediocre, even against 2nd and 3rd tier defenses, where Brown has definately demonstrated that he’s at least better than 3rd and 4th tier (the ones that usually get cut.) But, as for the linebacker position, I think they want more depth there than what’s listed here. Why? Just look at the injuries to linebackers across the NFL. Unless they can trade for a more experience one I think they’ll keep Boiman and put Campbell on the practice squad. Why Campbell? Because he’s also experienced at the safety position and is good on special teams. Also, I thinkn they’ll want one more reciever in the mix.
I feel O is set as sean posted
With 2 great TE’s plus 1 more .. Running backs who can catch the ball, we might just go with 4 receivers …
LB’s .. maybe we keep the 2 extra .. or as I said, 1 LB goes and a S/CB .. They are good special team players .. help our O/D with yards every drive .. and LB Depth is a must ..
You have 10 players making it as DB’s for 4 Positions .. and 7 LB’s for 3 positions on the field .. I don’t think we carry more than 8 or a max of 9 DB’s …
I must respectfully disagree...
My basis for disagreement is two-fold.
First, I believe Cambell will make the roster. Aside from the fact that he actually is a good player and steam-roll hitter, there’s a very real life PR aspect to consider. Are you going to cut an American Armed Forces Veteran? Hard to do, especially when he’s performing on the field. Let’s do a full-frontal face-it here people, cutting Campbell would be a PR nightmare. On the flip-side, keeping him does a lot FOR PR, and they can use him to boost the teams image. Those are cold hard facts, and like it or not, the Lions are more than a football team, they are a business. They are a business whose sales consistently lag behind that of other clubs due to their losing image. Does Campbell turn that around on his own, not a chance. Is he someone they can use as a poster child to a certain targeted advertising audience, you betcha. Cha-ching.
Second. I think there will, in all likelyhood, be at least 3 waiver claims that make the roster. With any luck whatsoever, the Lions will never be this high on the waiver wire pecking order for the next ten years, so it would be silly not to take full advantage of it, ESPECIALLY given our very thin talent level at other positions. Ahem! (Mr. King, your services are no longer required, please exit stage right). Know what I mean?
Thank you.
I really would like to see these 3 young guys make the team that are cut on this list
Gronkowski, Toone, and C Campbell.
I think instead of those guys we should cut Stanton, E King, and Simpson, Brown, or Wesley.
If Toone and Campbell are eligible for the practice squad maybe they wouldn’t get picked up, but Sean is right that Gronk will be long gone.
by WestsideLionsFan on Sep 2, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
Who do you guys think will be the "bad" cuts this year?
Every year there are some guys cut and nobody understands why. Last year it was Shaun Smith, Schwiegart, and Murtha. Maybe Standeford, I’m not sure how many people really liked him.
My money is on Aaron Brown, Derrick Williams, and maybe a surprise on the DL. I hope it’s not Willie Young, but maybe they think he’s undersized and they would rather keep Fluellen or something.
Your thoughts?
by WestsideLionsFan on Sep 2, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
Nothing wrong with the Murtha cut last year.
They wanted to give him a chance to develop on the practice squad. Miami took him mid way through the season I think, and now he is fighting for a spot on their roster. I thought the Lions did the right thing there. If they would have seen more from him in the preseason they would have kept him on the team.
I think
Berry over King
Caleb over A. Palmer
Gronk over Felton
Drop Stanton in favor of Toone, would not mind to see us keep Moore on the roster or at least hope he goes to the practice squad.
I hope we trade off Morris for a draft after Smith is healthy. Would not be upset if we let Smith go more towards the end of the season, just before the trade deadline.
Agree with 1st 2
doubtful abt dropping Felton or Stanton ..
i would
keep hauschka
keep berry
cut king
cut williams (derrick)
Palmer will make the team.
Toone has no shot to make team and will end up on practice squad. Id like to see Campbell make the team but Palmer has done more hands down which will put Campbell on the practice squad. Aaron Berry has a shot but id be suprised if he makes it. I agree with most of your picks though Sean.
Whats with all the Toone love?
Only thing ive seen him do is drop passes. He has practice squad written all over him and has since day 1.
Not sure either. I don't remember him making a play.
I liked Fowler ahead of Clark, Moore, and Toone.
Smurfy 53 after the final preseason game
Starting with my first 45
QB: Stafford, Hill (2)
RB: Best, Smith, Brown (5)
FB: Felton (6)
TE: Pettigrew, Scheffler, Heller (9)
WR: C. Johnson, Burleson, B. Johnson, Williams (13)
OL: Backus, Sims, Raiola, Peterman, Cherilus, Jansen, Gandy (20)
LS: Muhlbach (21)
K: Hanson (22)
P: Harris (23)
DE: KVB, Avril, McBride, Jackson (27)
DT: Suh, Williams, Hill (30)
LB: Follett, Levy, Peterson, Johnson, Campbell, Palmer (37)
CB: Houston, Wade, Bly, Wesley, Pratt (41)
S: Delmas, Brown, Phillips, Spievey (45)
Round out to 53
QB Stanton (46)
RB Morris (47)
TE Gronkowski (48)
WR Clark (49)
OL Ramirez, Hilliard (51)
DE Young (52)
DT Cohen (53)
Practice Squad
WR Moore, Toone (2)
DE Ihekwoaba (3)
DT Callaway (4)
LB Stamper (5)
CB Berry (6)
Dizon on IR
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Esmurf, Is the order at the end how you would rank those guys?
I like your list, especially the practice squad. Although I can see a scenario where Hilliard and Caleb Campbell get put on the practice squad to make room for two others. Guys who are here now [Rocky and Isiah] or two new pick ups.
Hopefully Stamper can finally pass his physical and get a chance to work with the team, albeit on the practice squad.
The number is just a way for me to keep track of how many guys I had put on the roster
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Prediction
I agree with your predictions for the most part except I think we keep Aaron Berry over Eric King.
by Detroitsportsfan3 on Sep 3, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions
Page may be available!!!!!
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/9/3/1668283/kansas-city-chiefs-s-jarrad-page
signed his tender….
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
I think WR we are ok
TJ in Detroit? he may be cut or SEA waiting for a trade … is he an upgrade (over how he played last year) after 1. CJ and 2/3. Burleson?
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
Housh is a definate upgrade over any not named Calvin or Nate
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wow
Page is getting straight up roasted on the KC page. Not sure if this is a joke or not but one fan said that it was reported that Page is in contact with a realtor in Detroit. I’m guess it’s just them talking trash but who knows. Personally I’m starting to like where we are at safety with Delmas, Phillips, Spievey, and even Simpson and Brown showing a little bit of promise.






























