You will still see alot of Kevin Smith
by msivits on Sep 5, 2010 9:40 PM EDT
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Yes - a hot topic, but I just want to set our RB situation straight. Best is our starting RB, but don't see him getting the full load - not now and maybe never.
Best: He should IMO get 12-18 touches a game; I said touches not carries. He's great on sweeps, tosses and can make a quick cut inside, and bust one loose, but do you want to over work a small back given his history. Getting the most out of him means keeping him healthy for a full season, which is why he should be treated like china plates. Best could do the most damage in the 4th quarter when the D-line is worn down, but he has to be fresh and healthy to do that.
Smith: I can see him getting 10-15 touches a game. He's still a grinder and coming off injury. How he came back so quickly is amazing to me, but he will get carries to ease the load on Best. He had a decent rookie season followed by a decent sophmore season cut short by injury. Schwartz is a smart coach and knows what he has in Smith. Maybe he's not the workhorse back we thought, but he will be a good 2nd RB in our system.
Morris: Morris is what he is - a back up if Kevin gets injured again. Morris looks good in small doses and can stand in as a spot starter like he's done his entire career. But I believe he's in his 30's now, and it's not worth considering giving him Smith's job. I think we all know he probably won't be on the next year, but he is good insurance if Smith gets hurt this year or has a set back.
Brown: Brown got the nod over Dorsey because of his speed and has a role much like Morris; if Best gets hurt he'll fill his void as the speed back while Smith grinds out tough yards. The coaches probably hope he can be the RB that will allow them to lose Morris in 2011.
Felton: I love this guy, but he's our FB and nothing more. He'll get some tough goal line carries along with 3rd and short carries when he just has to plow over guys. He does his best work catching the ball with space to plow over guys when he's in the open field. He did get some carries in the preseason that teased us all, but he's our FB not our power runner. If the coaches wanted him for that, Smith probably would have been released - allowing him for that job.
Overall: I don't think any of our backs will break the 1,000 yard mark, but they will have a very feared back field to opposing D-lines
Best- 880 yards rushing with 6 TD's
Smith- 675 yard rushing with 5 TD's
Morris- Clean up work
Brown- 1 or 2 TD's on long runs or screens
Felton 1 or 2 TD's on goaline carries
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Good article
I can somewhat agree with you on that. Now most fans, including myself, would want to see the best playmakers on the field on every down let alone have the ball in their hands all the time but you have to look at the fact that these guys are human and fatigue always sets in and their bodies get dinged up and about so like you said, you cannot overwork a guy especially a rookie back in Best who has a series of injuries in college including that major fall he took just a year ago.
As for the stats, I can see the yardage being right about right but the touchdowns not so much. If Best does stay healthy throughout the season, I see him notching the 10 TD mark if not more with his explosive ability. I see 12 for him with most coming off of long runs off course and the rest on screens out of the backfield or the slot.
Agree
Except, Best – 1200 yards IF, he stays healthy.
And, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Brown get more yards than Smith because,
K can’t stay healthy. He’s not right yet and, being tentative trying to hit the hole, is going to get him creamed, sooner or later.
Brown is greatly improved and, has the confidence to get it done. Especially if he doesn’t have to do returns with A. Smith in the fold.
I don’t think many will agree with this but, it’s all conjecture anyway.
Expectations don't produce!
why is every one assuming smith will come out and be good??
he has never been more then a avg back… and has looked horific so far.. there is a very good chance he never fully comes back
i just dont see the love for smith..
What the f is your problem with Smith?
Every single comment from you seems to be bashing him.
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he has looked like trash this pre seasen is what driving most of it
but he has never had great speed and dosnt brake tackles..
look at how are offense looked when we had best brown or dede out there.. we rarly had a negitiveplay or a 3-out.. but when smith was out there we had alot of them
i am just not convenced he will come back after seeing him the past 3 games
He's coming off major knee surgery, what the F do you expect
it sounds like you havn’t watch him his 1st or 2nd year and just judge him off this preseason.
How's that different than his other comments?
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I meant the lack of correctly-spelled words
Not the content.
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answer me this
we got RB in the draft (other then best)
he cam out and avg
2
2.3
3,5(i don’t remember what it was but that sounds close)
would you be singing the same toon
Thank you Sean!
I was just gonna post that if this was the original K-smooth post… a lot of spewing of crap would have been avoided. This post imo is the most logical, intellegent view of what the Lions are doing with running game. Nice post msivits!
Do you think the Lions could use a 47 yr old 220lb cornerback that runs a 5.02 40 that will take your head off?.........will play for beer!
Oh man.......
I think most would agree that if we didn’t have Best, we still wouldn’t have a running game to open up the passing game. Smith just hasn’t proved he can do that!
I don’t hate K, we shouldn’t even use words like that, ever! He’s a decent player and a good person. We NEED a running game that is better than decent. Without it, our offense isn’t going to open up the way we need it to.
Expectations don't produce!
Some of us see Smith as crappy
I know I think Smith should have been cut. Seriosuly man Smith can’t get past the first guy that touches him and to me that says he sucks. I would rather snag one of the guys from someones practice squad like Bell as long as he won’t go down by a mere sneeze or a light breeze like Smith.
by Usmarine0341 on Sep 5, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont see him as crappy, I see him as a slightly better than average 2nd string back when he is healthy.
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What the f is your problem with Smith? He's coming off major knee surgery, what the F do you expect
I expect him to be mediocre.
Expectations don't produce!
RB need to have one of the fallowing
speed
or
power
smith has neater..
he either need to be turned into a slot guy or cut
Lets be honest det32 is right
Smith is “good” at everything, running, blocking, catching… and “great” at nothing. He will make an very good rb2 but in no way is he rb1 material on a good team. And to the auther of this article. In Ksmooths best season, when he was the best rb on are team he had barely more yards and less tds then ur projection…. r u on fucking crack?
the top 32 backs avg for this preseasen added up is 169.1 / that by 32 and you get 5.2 (smith is at 2yards)(note this is befor bills game)
the top 32 backs avg for 2009 added up is 130.5 / that by 32 and you get 4.0 (smith was at 3.4)
the top 32 backs avg for 2008 added up is 131.1 / that by 32 and you get 4.0 (smith was at 4.1)
Do you want to judge all guy's coming off major injuries like a rookie
If you do there would of been alot of HOF on the waiver wire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe.. but that a risk you have to take..
i donno the number but i know smith has a very low chance of coming back fully… and people have said it will fully like dynamite is in his knee
Pettigrew had one catch
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And a big fat drop in the End Zone.
I’ve jumped on the Bandwagon.
I’m now starting a hate site for Athletes coming off of Major and Minor Injuries. Cut ‘em all I say, even if their injury occured more than a few years ago, and they have seemingly come back. I say, I don’t believe it!
Link to come.
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Eight Belles style
Right on the field, for everyone to watch.
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Darn right he did
Brady should’ve been long gone, in favor of Cassel.
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Well...
Not the biggest Kevin Smith fan either but you can’t bash on the guy for not doing much so far on a bad team. His rookie year dating back 2 seasons ago, he was a 24 yard run away from grabbing 1000 yards for the season and had 8 TDs on a BAD BAD team, the 0-16 team.
He followed that up with a 747 yard injury-plagued season on a BAD team. Now imagine what he can do with a DECENT team and another weapon alongside Stafford in Best along with the newest outside additions in Burleson and Scheffler and an improved offensive line with the addition of Sims.
Again, I am not the biggest Kevin Smith fan but you have to give the guy a chance. He is only 23 and still has his legs. He might not be fast or powerful but he is better than the average back and is of some value if he doesn’t work out being that young.
Plus, when other teams game plan against the Detroit Lions, do you think they’ll give much matter to Kevin Smith? That is a huge positive for him since all the focus on the defenses will most likely be of Jahvid Best and where he is lined up. Once Smith checks in, the defense will probably take a break and that’s when Smith can take advantage and go to work.
Yes he is not the flashy type or even type of back one would want to see get 20 or so carries a game but whenever you have a problem that consists of having the luxury of getting rid of a guy who has been decent to say the least and is a backup now, that would be the least of my worries when you have so many other holes to fill on the roster.
This should be the year that decides Kevin Smith’s future in Detroit.
One last thing to point out, he is in his contract year so you never know what type of production he may put up with the motivation of earning huge money next offseason ala Albert Haynesworth.
by Calvin21 on Sep 5, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
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+1
Do you think the Lions could use a 47 yr old 220lb cornerback that runs a 5.02 40 that will take your head off?.........will play for beer!
You're WAY outtal line, Buddy!
You need to stop making excuses for Smith. Wahwahwah, He has a peg leg, a glass eye, he get’s taken down by the wind. Sounds like a sunken ship if you ask me. His ass should be grass. And, he’s not alone. Staff’s non-throwing shoulder may never be the same, we don’t know what kind of implications this could have.
R/
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lol...tsk, tsk...
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by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 7, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
And know he's an avg back filling in as our 2nd back what's not to like
you really do hate Smith!!! what do you suggest
brown and get dede back
trade morries for a 5th or 6th(unles we can get better and/or a cb/lb)
and
put smith on pulp till week 8 or w/e they come off then let dede go
If you read my post it has Brown taking over for Morris in 2011
You want a 30 year old back as our #2, good thinking
If we are being honest, and you know lions football....
Kevin “busto” Jones had more big play potential than Ksmooth….Actually Kevins big play potential is eaqual to that of james stewart…lmfao
damn it were
is cason when u need him hahaha no smith should be a good #2 back and brown is a good swtch back we shoould be happy for sure. GO LIONS
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by JCruize on Sep 5, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Smith may not even dress for the first game or two if they think he has not completely recovered.
But in the long haul he will get around 12 touches per game IMO. And be very important to the success of this team.
And just to clarify what MoMo does here, he can run, catch, and especially pass block. He picks up the blitz better than any other RB on this team. And KSmith does a pretty good job at that too.
Brown and Felton and Best have a lot to learn before they can be trusted with picking up blitzers. Cause folks, the Lions will see blitzers this year. A lot I am thinking.
Smith may not even dress for the first game or two if they think he has not completely recovered
thats part of the problem why are we keep some one who is injured..
and dont bring up grew.. smith dosent hold a candle to him
Are you kidding me? He will not be injured forever.
Not sure I can take your comments re Kevin Smith seriously anymore. I recced a lot of Sean’s comments to you on this thread, and I guess you just will not give it up.
Well, I will. I am officially done with any KSmith bashing threads. Schwartz thinks he should be on the team, that is more than good enough for me.
so its to soon to give up on smith.. but it time to give up on felton who was in the saem draft?? only 2 rounds later?
that makes sense
I said that Felton has this year to show some improvement, especially as a blocker.
Yeah, that’s fair. Felton has; A/ Not been injured and B/ not done anything of note so far in his career in Detroit. Time to put up.
to be far ehe hasnt gotn much of a chance...
i likel felton as yall know but there is upgrads out there not going to lie
look all i am saying is out offence git way more respect when we had a guy with spped back there
oppsed to smith
and that i dont belive he is a lock to be 100% he need to go on pulp or something so he is not useing the spot
+1
Best and Brown are speed backs.
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The idea of getting rid of Smith and Morris for someone like Blount is just moronic
There’s a reason the Titans cut him. Just as there is a reason the Lions haven’t cut Smith or Morris.
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by Sean Yuille on Sep 5, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Again
There’s a reason Dorsey was cut. Sure, he looked good against second- and third-stringers, but big deal. It’s no secret that Dorsey can’t catch on anywhere.
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by Sean Yuille on Sep 5, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes dede was agenst 2nd and 3rd guys.. but smith was agenst mostly 2nd
i just dont see the love for him
Here you go
Smith has been a starter for two years and has done relatively well. Dorsey is essentially a journeyman at this point who played in the UFL last year. pretty simple
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by Sean Yuille on Sep 5, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
all that means
is our scrubs are better than their scrubs
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no..not what i am syaing
smith was out there agenst the bills 2nd string
so was dede
agenst the same players dede and co looked better the smith and co
whats wrong with that analogy
than Stanton would be the starter
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+1
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either i am really fucking up the spelling or i am loseing you guys
dede and smith where playing against the same players the same talent level (2nd string guys) and dede looked better
let try this way dede looked better against 2nd string players then smith looked against 2nd string players
i dont understand the +1….
it was for sean's post
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maybe smith is more talented or what not
but you got to have that cemistry as well and something about dede mixed better
You're grasping at straws man
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I agree with him
Smith vs the 2nd stringers looked like shit and DeDe looked pretty good against the same 2nd string players. The only that that killed DEDE was his ball security. Aside from that he smoked Smith on every facet of his game. Sorry guys but Smith blows. The only reason he is still around is because he was serviceable when we sucked. Look for him to be cut next year, maybe this year if we can run across a decent back to snag to replace him.
by Usmarine0341 on Sep 5, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Smith might not make it past the trading deadling, and he might not make next years roster, but I doubt he will be cut anytime soon.
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Cut Smith
and cut Dede too, he couldn’t hold onto HIV if he had it.
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dede droped 2 smith droped 1
but dede maid plays.. smith did not
also there is this guy named a peterson.. i hear he prety good and he drops the ball alot
I don't like him
He got injured in college, if you haven’t heard.
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LOL! Nice FM.
As far as com,paring DeDe to A. P. well great then maybe Minnesotta will pick up DeDe :)
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with who???? Those player were either released, buried on the depth , or on the PS
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My last comment on this subject
Is that I trust the coaches/front office over you, who just seems to hate Smith’s guts. Whatever.
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by Sean Yuille on Sep 5, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is that I trust the coaches/front office a whole lot more than you. Whatever.
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Another thing
You and me cannot judge in pre season
The coaches know what was assigned to whom .. and who is doing what better .. etc .. anyone other than the lions staff wouldn’t be able to judge ..
Regular season is a different thing .. opposing coaches look at tape and judge .. but not pre season ..
You need to forget that pre season is a barometer of anything ..
OR ELSE we wouldn’t have gone 0-16 .. would we ?
Plus
The preseason is four games. Training camp is a month of two-a-days that aren’t all open to the public.
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our team that went 4-0 in pre season
You would want that team .. cuz they looked good in pre season … right ?
I am sure you know more than out coaches and the FO
Where were you the last few years ? .. Advising Millen I presume :)
yes
And so might our coaches .. But they have done a great job so far …
You need to chill .. and accept that luckily, Schwartz and Mayhew know better than you and me combined …
You have been acting like Smith did something to you personally ..
look back to one of my previos posts : )
Det32 did your wife get pregent when nothing was going on in the bedroom : )
Just jokin
No one is even calling him our featured back
Forget a pro bowler ..
Everyone considers him 2nd in line after Best
You need to get your facts straight dude …
Who is saying he is a pro bowler? You're acting like DeDe is a NFL starter
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you mean he's not
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none of us are saying he is a pro-bowler
we just think he has more value to the team than Dorsey did. Thats all
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Uh no
Pretty sure everybody is fairly content with him being Best’s backup and a situational back. You are the one making Dorsey out to be a solid starter when he’s clearly not and are saying that a rookie who was cut is better than both Smith and Morris.
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no i am saying brown shuld be 2nd and ded should be 3rd
i want all speed backs back there b/c that what we look better with.. donno why but it is
I think I will stop
It’s just that it’s so tough not to reply …
This is the guy who wants a single player to kick and punt to save a roster spot .. and thinks the special long snapper is a waste .. etc etc
You really need to attend a football clinic dude …
It's not wasting a spot .. because
The specialist does his job .. and earns his spot many times over …
Clinic dude … any kind
not saying he isnt good or dosent earn his spot any of that
all i am saying is if you get paid to kick a ball you should be able to punt a ball
you must be related to...
matt millen
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how so??
millen loved to wast time on players and held on to them way to long..
i want to get ride of those kind of player before the become a burden
i want to get the players that fit this team the best..
i don’t want to setll for below avg players
enlighten me how that is any thing like millen
picking the worst players for our team
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how is that?? dede brown and best all looked better then smith did
it not even depatbel smith sucked in the preseasen
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sorry if you cant see that...
smith is still recovering but here is a tip take the blinders off
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whatever might as well stop makeing smith treads
you guys will never change your mind and neather will i..
i just think when a team looks better when a sertin kind of player is out there that you should get more of that kind of player
That wasn't a team
It was people given stuff to do …
Again .. our team looked graet going 4 – 0 in pre season ..
And Stanton should replace Staff as per ur logic ..
You really went and checked every player lined up against them ?
Who was 2nd and who was 3rd ? .. and
Did you check if our O-line did the job equally for everyone ?
Did you check WR’s ran routes and blocked like they were supposed to?
Did you check that everyone faked correctly, so defenses bit on fakes ?
Just give it up man …
Dude
We all know that this team looks MUCH MUCH better with Best out there as a running back but you can’t hide the fact that Kevin Smith would make possibly an excellent 2nd back since all the attention will be on Best and the rest of that offense.
Best or Dede or whoever your complaining about cannot last all game behind the line, at some point, he needs a breather and thats where Smith takes over the role after being starter for the past two season. No one is saying he is beast but he is of value to this team.
and it looks much much better with brown then smith.. and dede then smith..
best
brown
felton
dede
mories/smith
that how i rank them
lol
Brown cannot last five carries behind center. His pass protection is horrible while that is part of Kevin Smiths more underrated aspects of his game. Dede is a one time wonder, he shows up one game, goes away the next ten. There is a reason why he was released and available when the Lions grabbed him, and is still available right now. If all five of those guys you ranked where released RIGHT NOW aside from Best, who do you think gets the most attention in free agency???
Easy answer, Smith.
No chance
32 teams passed up on Brown 6 times before the Lions grabbed him in the draft and 31 other teams passed up on Morris when we signed him while Smith was drafted third round and considered a sleeper pick.
Morris had all the chance in the world to do something once Smith was injured for the year but did not produce enough to even garner the back up role this season. He is next to go on the cut line.
I’ll take an injured 23 year old back who notched over 1000 total yards both his first two seasons over a rookie who can’t pass protect and an old Morris who did not do anything when given chance.
you do realize that smith was a 2 yr starter
and that he does pose some kind of threat he will be able to do somethings running and catching etc.. that dede has NEVER DONE IN THE NFL.. through out the past to drafts/trades/FA the coaching staff and FO has stated this from day 1 BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE.
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yes he was a 2 year starter
your point harenting started for 2 or 3 years was he good? just b/c the start dosnt mean there good..
just b/c the have starting experinc dosent mean there tight for the team
i will post this aghen
the top 32 backs avg for this preseason added up is 169.1 / that by 32 and you get 5.2 (smith is at 2yards)(befor week 4)
the top 32 backs avg for 2009 added up is 130.5 / that by 32 and you get 4.0 (smith was at 3.4)
the top 32 backs avg for 2008 added up is 131.1 / that by 32 and you get 4.0 (smith was at 4.1)
why do you want to setle for avg?? that isnt good enough for me
we can't all agree on everything
I’m not the biggest Smith fan, but I like him in the role of RB#2. You think he should be gone. Thats your opinion.
I know you’re a Felton fan. I think Felton epically sucks and should be cut, but I know he won’t be. That is my opinion.
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only difference on that is
he is a FB
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All I can say
Is that I’m so glad I went and watched shitty ass Predators instead of participating in this thread
What's funny
is that at one point I thought I was one of the only people who were in favor of keeping Smith…. Now it just seems like its det vs the world
I feel like Millen said that
over glasses of wine and candles… pouring over scouting tapes and depth charts
lol
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by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 7, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I always defended smith ...
Is he great … Nope …
Should we give up on him .. Definitely not ..
He might work out, he might not .. but it’s stupid to give up right now ..
what have yu guys see in the past 3 games that tells you smith will come back.. lets put it that way
turn on that Buffalo game
1st carry-13 yd gain
1st catch-13 yd gain
he hasn’t seen alot of playing time in the preseason
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if my math is right
thats a 4.5 yd avg
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So
the Lions should not have a change of pace back whatsoever?
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Brown is faster
that is all he has on Smith.
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not going to aargue that
its not the talent its what works for your team.. and judgeing off of pre seasen that is speed
So you want Brown in at RB on 3&8 with a blitz dialed up?
Stafford would get killed.
I’d want Smith back there with his blocking ability.
I’ve been saying for 10 months now that Aaron Brown is the slot receiver the Lions need. He’s not a true RB
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Theres more to RB than just running
Aaron Brown can’t block for shit. Like I said, Staff would get crushed.
Line Best or your boy Brown in the slot, keep Smith in for blitz pick-up
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Smith made that last play in regulation against CLE
the block he threw gave stafford time to get the ball downfield.
Best example I can think of off the top of my head to show Smiths blocking ability
how was it crappy?
I wanna listen to you man, but you are losing me. That block was Perfect!
He took the guy out low and put him on the ground. what else is he supposed to do to make it a non crappy block?
he didnt get him to the ground..
it could have been beter is all he kind of shot at him like a cannun.. it worked so dosent relly matter
I thought that was the rest of the game lol
all in all, 5 touches-31 yards. 6+ yds per touch
Smith is excellent at pass protection, has really good hands catching out of the backfield and consistantly gets the tough 3-4 yards. That is what a good 3rd down back/RB2 is supposed to be. He’s alot like Kevin Faulk or Chester Taylor. I can live with that
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Same..
same can be said for Morris who your apparently in love with. And I’ll give you all of last seasons game tape including the past 4 games in preseason. What has he done to get touches this season?
This is how the football business works
1st year – You draft a RB .. he gets you 900 + yards behind a shitty line
2nd year – he gets injured
3rd year – He is ahead of schedule .. But he will have effects of his surgery still .. so you don’t cut him
4th year .. he gets way better ..
Cut him and you look stupid when he does better with another team .
Keep him and you look smart if he does better .. and if he doesn’t, everyone knows it was an investment that smart people hold on to logically .. and sometimes it doesn’t work ..
All I'll say
That your idea of addition by subtraction does not make sense in this situation – regardless of how well you think the team ‘flows’ with ‘speed backs’ in, the fact is that the investment of Smith coupled with past performance is reason alone to hang onto him. Add in the fact that you won’t get shit for him in a trade, and cutting him is just pointless. He’s absolutely worth more than plenty of guys on the roster, so if the spot means that much to you, cut one of our DL or WRs.
stafford
wasnt he banged up everywhere a year ago too? might as well give up on our #1 pick and franchise savior and franchise QB.
stop trying to campar smith to our other injured you cant do it
they al looked good.. he did ot
none of the had a bad of one as he did
Point is...
You cannot judge a guys entire career that he’s worked his whole life towards in THREE preseason games coming off major surgery.
Come on now man get some sense. What are your thoughts on the 0-16 year where he was 24 yards away from 1000 yard season?
So you just want to through that out the window too because it was the past? Isn’t this preseason in the past too now?
Find a better number 2 back out on the market who has the potential he does and I’ll stop…and be sure to let Mayhew and Schwartz know as well.
yea i do think felton is more better back,, but he is a short yard back
then aghen i sopse smith is as well seem how he goes down 1st tackle
How many career TDs does Felton have?
0
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Felton sucks
a FB who can’t run-block, can’t pass block, needs 3 tries against a 3rd string defense on the goalline after being bailed out with a defensive penalty, and has never scored when it counts.
I was bummed Felton wasn’t on that cut list.
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Felton sucks
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Per Wikipedia:
On January 15, 2009 Best underwent surgery to tighten a ligament that had been injured when he dislocated his left elbow against Colorado State on September 27, 2008. This was followed up by foot surgery on January 23 to relieve the irritation of an extra bone that was caused when Best bruised his foot halfway through the 2008 season.
Best was injured during the second quarter of Cal’s November 7 matchup against Oregon State. In the process of scoring a rushing touchdown, he hurdled a defender into the end zone and was accidentally pushed by a second Oregon State defender in mid-air, causing him to land on the back of his head with his helmet coming off. The play resulted in a concussion for Best.2829 After a 13-minute game delay, Best was taken off the field to the Highland General Hospital in Oakland. This was his second concussion in two weeks, following a mild concussion received the previous week against Arizona State.
If you think a guy with that kind of injury history is LESS of a liability at 20 lbs lighter and 2 inches shorter than Smith, you’re crazy. Just my opinion.
Same
Can’t take this idiocy anymore.
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by Sean Yuille on Sep 5, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Excuse the shouting but
IT’S BEEN THREE FREAKING PRESEASON GAMES
If you truly believe that he’s as bad as you say based on that, then, well, you’re not very bright. How about you give him a real game or two before saying crap like that.
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by Sean Yuille on Sep 5, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HE HASNT HAD A CHANCE YET
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preseason
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still 3 game if he sucks in pre seasen chanc are he will suck in a real game
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he is recovering from a major injury
it takes time to get back to form
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i will tell you what i have seen
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lol
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Apparantly
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by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 7, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
FINAL VERDICT
Kevin Smith is in his “contract year”. We all know what that means in today’s NFL. This season can make a millions worth a difference, literally.
If he goes all out and has a great year then he will get paid like it. However, if he fails like det32 says he will, then he will not be on this roster any longer.
Contract years bring out the best in every player and I guess time will tell.
NEVER fear the profiler is here
fact is K smooth is on the roster…its done can we continue this fight next season…complaining about it now is pointless.
I had a dream were the Lions let me sign a 1 day contract they let me practice with them running drills and catching passes from Matt…At the end of the day I was called into Mayhews office. I was told I had just been traded to seattle for a 5th round draft pick.
+100000000000000000000000
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wow
A guy just came back from cancer in college and played well in his first game back and your saying just because Smith looks dinged up still that he won’t ever be back to full strength?
but
your saying he wont EVER be back to 100%…what makes you so sure? I just think its one of those things where you just hate the guy. He has talent, hes not the best at what he does but he belongs on this roster let alone an NFL roster.
he's RB2 for a reason
have Best run that defense down for 3 qtrs, then put Smith in to finish them off.
Smith can take alot more punishment than Brown.
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yea amith can take more then brown..
but when the D i tired (4th qtr) you dont put the slow guy in you put the fast guy in
No
You put the most complete back in that can protect because being the Lions, your mostly DOWN big in the fourth and need pass protection (Kevin Smith) in more than you need a speed back who cannot protect.
you put in the hammer and take 3-4 yd chunks at a time
slowly run that time off the clock
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I hate repeating myself
so I just copied and pasted my thoughts about Felton.
Felton sucks. A FB who can’t run-block, can’t pass block, needs 3 tries against a 3rd string defense on the goalline after being bailed out with a defensive penalty, and has never scored when it counts.
I was bummed Felton wasn’t on that cut list
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by JazzyBBP on Sep 5, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Finally someone else sees that Felton is not a good RB.
I can’t understand why people think he automatically plows into the end zone from three yards out….the first try. He is a good receiver, is okay in the middle of the field on surprise carries, and does not block very well. But when they know he is coming……forget it.
I have watched him in the preseason and regular season and he does not get into the end zone on his first carry from the two. They tried this last year people and he could not do it. He got stuffed by the Buffalo scrubs a couple times this preseason before finally getting in on his third try. That is not a guy who “MOVES THE PILE”.
I think Felton needs to improve this year or he is gone. They cannot wait forever for this guy.
How long is forever?
I mean, I like Felton, but his ‘forever’ is YEARS, whereas Smith’s forever is… well, since what, the last week or two of the season?
Most players are out for a year after an ACL and their teams hang onto them. Smith is fighting back to play for us and you want to cut him. I think someone else hit the nail on the head when they said that you don’t respond to hard work and loyalty by cutting a player.
There are things called free agents, and free agents don’t want to come to a team that is ruthless and will cut guys who put their heart on the field just because of an injury. Trust me, they have choices, especially marquee FA’s, and that does factor in.
you can be the hardst working most loyaly guy in the world
and it wouldnt matter if you didnt preform..
to add to the Felton debate
Felton is a short-yardage back who has never even gotten a 1st down in short yardage!!??!!!?!??
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8912/situational;_ylt=AoZz8Kdqr5kM9BQvOFnSnKL.uLYF?year=career
Bring in Blount, sign Matt Clapp off of whoevers PS he is on, sign that old guy Tony Richardson. A ham sammich is an upgrade over Felton
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Not all 3, of course. Just 1 to upgrade the FB spot
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if the ham sandwich comes with a pickle on the side...
sign me up.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
History...
Looking at history, the injury he suffered isn’t that major when it comes to missing time and recovering.
a RB blowing up there knee isnt major?? the RB coach happened to him
he says every day it feels like dynamite is in it
Then why is he back so soon?
If it was as major as you make it to sound…he would miss a FULL year which means he shouldn’t even be able to run let alone play in an NFL game let alone three of those in less than one year recovery time.
I wouldn't have minded if Smith was PUP'd
but he wasn’t. Ya gotta learn to live with.
You need to surf some porn and forget about Smith for a while
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lol
you anti-Smithite!
Put Doll, Jameson, Lain, Lawson, Hunter in the search instead of a Smith
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SMith coulden't PUP
If you go to 1 practice you cannot go on PUP. You can go to team meetings and you can rehab, but your not allowed to practice with the team if you are going to be eligible for PUP.
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how so?
I saw most Broncos fans saying that they did not give him a fair shake for what they invested?
How does that sound like King?
And the guy is a Beast in Man-Coverage.
LOL
At first I was thinking, why did he write Smurf some porn? What does he have to do with it? I’m tired.
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cuz he got his phd in football medicine
and he did the surgery on smith :)
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and many have returned
it was said he should be out for a yr not 6-8 months he is back early
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no most do not.. it kills most careers...
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these days that s not 100% true
medical procedures have came along way from yrs past
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K Smith should be cut – gone – out of here!
I think cutting KS would send a very good message to all current Lions players. If you play for the Lions and have a major injury, they you work hard in rehab to comeback ahead of schedule it means nothing. Let’s send a clear message to any player that has a great attitude, works hard and wants to play for this team, if you get hurt – GET LOST we do not want you.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 5, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
only he dosnt have a good atttied eather
have you heard his intervews??
litson to him talk then litson to bur talk who has the better attitud
OT:
I am the worlds worst speller, but you know once I figured out what those red squiggly lines meant… Wow it changed my life.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 5, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not being a jerk. My point is your message would be easier to read (and more pertinent) if you took two seconds to review your posts. Like I said, I am an awful with spelling, but I still try.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 5, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
One or two incorrectly-spelled words is one thing, but I can barely comprehend some of the comments on here.
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its detonese
1/2 the fun is trying to decipher it. Hang around long enough and you’ll get used to it. Pretty soon you won’t even notice it.
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I pleaded with my mother to buy me hooked on phonics.
I guess this is why I cannot get “detonese”
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by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 6, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha what's funny is I can totally understand what he's saying
Even though he makes the strangest combinations of letters and symbols I’ve ever seen
Strangely enough, you're right
I don’t have that much trouble deciphering it out now, it’s like reading normal English, you just take out two or three letters at random.
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by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 7, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
What?!?!?!
Dude, check your facts. Go listen to Kevin Smith interviews – the guy is the most hardcore, upbeat, serious player I’ve heard on the Lions until Suh came aboard.
If you want to actually talk with a factual basis, you should look up interviews of his last year and in his rookie year. Inspiring. Aside from that, go ahead and listen to this and tell me he’s got a bad attitude
“(The coaches) are installing the system, starting with the offseason workouts, and having some good attendance there and having guys come together and work and seeing each other and being around each other. Y’know, everybody’s believing. It starts now, getting ready for the season. …
“It’s gonna be a long journey. There’ll be some hard work, but I think we’re gonna be good this year.”
Nate PLEASE,
you gotta come with better than just “facts” against us Smith haters. Not gonna work.
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You're right
your argument was so eloquent, that you altered my mindset. I see the light. I’m on your side. We are like one, one team, one fight.
CUT SMITH!
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by FMFDOC8404 on Sep 6, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow at least your not ignorint our any thing...
wach the games agen look at how much better we do when best brown or dede is out there then we do when morries or smith is
I'm out
It was great debating this but at the end of the day, it is Smith’s contract year and he will come through, if not, he’ll be let go next offseason. Sounds fair to me.
Whether he is 100% or not, he has showed some guts in returning so quick and that should say something but this is the NFL and your only judged by game production and rings.
Good night POD.
look guys i dont hate smith..
its that i think he is a wrong fit for this team.. the cemistry and flow w/e you want to call it was so much better when best brown and dede where out there..
its not about that talent it about what works gor your team.. and i feel that, that is speed backs
Its called options
you need all different types of players.
Best and Brown are the speed
Smith and Morris are the 3-4 yd chunkers
ya gotta mix it up
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how about the times it doesn't work?
7 games are outdoors with the possibility of bad weather. That field gets muddy or icy and the speedy, shifty guys are useless that day.
Ya gotta plan for all situations
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Very true
A plan for all situations.
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by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 7, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
LoL See I go and have a Yahoo Fantasy Draft and you guys have all the fun while I am away!
Well I think it would be freaking smurfy to get Blount, but I would cut Morris not Smith. But I don’t think we will get him. The coaches had experience with him in the Senior Bowl and I think they saw things they didn’t like. I hope I am wrong on that because I do think he is a beast mode runner and would put Felton to shame on the goal line. In fact, if he replaced anyone other than Morris on the roster it would be Felton.
As far as cutting Kevin Smith that is just not a smart move at this point for several reasons. For one we are going to have a lot of two back sets just like we have a lot of two tight end sets. Kevin can do everything well and is a perfect compliment to be out there in a two back set with Best, Brown or Felton. Morris is pretty much a mirror of Smith. Reason two was touched on above, it is a bad bad message to the locker room to cut an injured player that is/was part of the nucleus of the team, without givng them a chance to fully recover and prove themselves. Heck they even gave DeVries a fair shot at recovery and he was not near to this team what Smith has been the past couple of years in terms of on field production. And DeVries had nothing over Smith off the field either, Kevin s a great leader and though he is young acts like a vet already. A third reason to keep Smith and not cut him is because he is a good young back and when he does fully recover, if you want to move on from him, you can get a lot more in trade value with all of his health questions answered prior to the trade. Reason 4 who are we going to pick up that is going to be more talented than Kevin Smith? So far I have seen us picking up guys that are special teams aces, which is good, but they cannot net us the down to down production on offense that Kevin does. Even LaGarett Blount, whom I am very high on, would be highly unlikely to out produce Kevin when he is healthy. Cutting Smith in favor of Blount would be a gamble and not the right thing to do at this time. Down the road that might be different, but that is down the road. Bottom line is that now is not the right time to cut or trade Smith even if we wanted to.
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Exactly
Wise words ..
I honestly feel Det32 doesn’t have an open mind .. and discussing with him is pointless
In the long run, even if we are moving on from Smith, getting the most value out of him is what is best for the team
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I look at it this way, at some point it is the right time to move on form every player, period. I just don't think that time is quite yet for Smith.
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You let him heal up, see if he can prove himself, and also see how he fits into the team when healthy.
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Naw he played hurt all last year for the team. Did you know that?
He had two bad shoulders all year and just kept going out there and throwing his body into the meat grinder for us. You cannot turn you back on a guy that sacrifices himself like that for the team so quickly, it would destroy our locker room morale and you would not get players to play hard anymore.
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He took a bullet for the team, now it is time for the team to bite the bullet for him.
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see i think that where we disagree the most
alot of you feel bad and want to give him his 2nd shot.. i say 1 is engho i am sick of holding on to players to long
Well we have to agree to disagree, It is kind of like the movie Anchorman
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here are my thoughts on Smith
like I said, I’m not a big Smith fan. And yes, I copied and pasted myself again.
Smith is excellent at pass protection, has really good hands catching out of the backfield and consistantly gets the tough 3-4 yards. That is what a good 3rd down back/RB2 is supposed to be. He’s alot like Kevin Faulk or Chester Taylor. I can live with that for my RB2
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hes good blocker and good reciver not going to disagree
it his rushing
move him to slot where his injure will not gimp him as much
how can he pick-up the blitz from the slot position?
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Best is good at blocking
Brown…not so much
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thats why Best is RB1
Smith is RB2
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and Brown would be much better in the slot than Smith
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Brown is better in space, not behind the line
I’m not anti-Brown. I’m saying Smith is a more complete back. Brown is the slot receiver the Lions have been searching for.
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I can also ell you something that Smith can do that no one else seems to be able to do in our backs
Score a freaking goal line TD. Seriously Felton has proven nothing there and neither has Best. Until someone can make those tough goal line yards and make the “money shots” Ksmoove will still be very needed on this roster.
Besides do you really want best in there getting pounded by 300 LB linemen all the time?
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Is the term "smurfy" a positive term?
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by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 7, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Also Schwartz will run Best as much as he can handle it
Even in the draft he talked about how a lot of smaller backs have been workhorses, CJ2K, the dude in Carolina, I forget his name right now (Deangilo Williams?), Maurice Jones-Drew, hell Warrick Dunn played for what like 14 years? Hell its not like Barry was a big back. Bests injuries are not from him getting hit, much like Barry he plays angles and players don’t get too many clean shots on him, thought they get some. Most of his injuries came of stupid flukes, dives into the end zone and crap like that.
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Barry only carried the ball over 20 times per game in five of ten seasons.
His highest carries per game average was 22.8 in 1991.
Personally, I thought the Lions used Barry perfectly through his career. I see Best being utilized along the same lines, a little less due to the guys we have behind him that can take some of the slack.
it just dosent make seans to me you you guys love smith so much
what has he done this year that proves he can be good in this offenc??
for gods sake look at the facts.. our offenc look 10x better when we had a speed guy back there…
i am sick of holding on to mid core players that nevere pan out… and all of them seem to have this un needed love fallowing them.. news flash… he has never been more then a avg back.. there are 100s out right now just like him..
he can ceatch.. not any better then the other backs we have now
he can bock .. morries is better and from what i have seen so far he isnt much if any better then best.. brown has inproved trmendisly in this aspect
he cant rush.. he goes down the 1st hit… its getin a little anoing that he cant brack a tackle
so i will ask you aghen what has he done THIS year to prove he diservs a spot on the team..
Totally agree
My thoughts verbadem. He sure as hell hasn’t won us any regular season games this year.
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why do you love smith so much?
i told you why i dont think he is right for this team..
your just being a jerk with your smerky comments
i mean seriously
why do you think good players like Logan (the guy we jsut picked up) get cut?? b/c there not right for the team..
same can be said for alot of the guys cut.. there could be a HoF player out there waiting to get picked up b/c the team he was on before did utilize him the right way… as we aren’t with smith..
so don’t side step the question
what did smith do in his 3 preseason game this year that should you he clicks
What do you want from me?
I’m on your side. You manipulated me with your clever commentating and now you ridicule me for trying to fight with you. I give up.
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Sheet, you guys still debating this topic?
I’m done with it. I can understand his frustration with watching slow ass KS with zero burst, and being tripped up buy baby finger tackles at times. I’m sick of it also, but will defer to the staff’s decision and go with it.
Someone pointed out, Smurf I think, that for benefit of team moral you have to give a player that has fought his way back a chance to get back on the field, I’ll go with that thinking as I feel the mental part of playing plays a makes hugh difference in wins and losses.
So let’s get this season started. I also think Morris will be gone in the next day or two.
by delusional on Sep 6, 2010 12:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
moral
it can go both ways..
give the guy that won the job the job.. i mean how would you feel if you out preformed someone but you where the one cut b/c the one you out preformed had a injure
and on top of that it what player is right for the team.. not what player has more talent.. not what player has done more in his career but what player clicks more.. and that was not smith
True....
Look. we have both said KS has a hugh heart and is a great teammate and team player. In this case it might be best to at least give him the chance to get all the way back. For team cohesiveness…There’s no doubt in my mind that if he’s sucking, he’ll be gone quickly.
by delusional on Sep 6, 2010 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is starting to become a black mark on the community...
This is just embarrassing…. There’s 31 other teams in this league that would pick Smith up. Nobody’s picking up DeDe… he’s going back to the UFL where he belongs…
Agreed
At this point I think it’s best to just shut up about Smith and move on. We have a game in six days.
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by Sean Yuille on Sep 6, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I wish I could rec that into auto responding to every comment with Smith in it for the next 4 weeks
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by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 7, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I must be losing my mind
because I can’t believe that this is still being discussed.
det32 can have his (poor, imo) opinion, and we can have ours. Our first regular season game is in six fucking days, how ‘bout we talk about something that’s actually relevant right now, ’kay?
You mean good tackling place kickers? The waste of a roster spot that is the Long Snapper? Trading for, then signing Darrelle Revis? The 2011 Draft?
Some of the topics on here lately have been really terrible. And we have gone on ad nauseum about them. I have already given up on responding to any slams on KSmith. Sorry Kev, you will just have to bear the burden of some on POD wanting you cut without me to call them out. Just play man.
I'm surprised at how far this thread, and the whole Kevin Smith discussion has gone
It seems so unimportant in the scheme of things. Most of the time our arguments are about who to draft first, or who should start at QB or something rather important. Not who should be our backup RB. Don’t get me wrong, any roster spot is important, but it’s not a starting spot and I’m frankly bemused at how much discussion this topic has raised. Smith is talented enough to be a good change-of-pace back. That’s all there is to it as far as I’m concerned.
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