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Spencer Havner Is A Linebacker

When news broke that the Lions had claimed Spencer Havner on Sunday, the assumption was that he would play tight end. Although he entered the league as a linebacker, Havner switched to tight end last year for Green Bay and did quite well. Yes, the Lions had three tight ends already, but the expectation is for there to be plenty of two-tight end sets this season, meaning taking four TEs was just building good depth.

As it turns out, the Lions apparently claimed Havner to play linebacker. He is listed as a linebacker on the release sent out by the team announcing the move and he is also a linebacker on their roster.

Originally it looked like Dennis Northcutt was let go to make room for Havner, but we now know that he was released to make way for Stefan Logan. Rocky Boiman was the one released to make room for Havner, which surprises me. I don't see why the Lions would release a true linebacker like Boiman, who knows the system well and provides good depth, for a player like Havner, who was a tight end last season. Is he a good athlete who could also contribute on offense? Sure, but I guess I am having a tough time understanding how Havner is an upgrade at the linebacker position.

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Looks like he lines up outside in this video. Any idea if he played inside or outside with GB? We could certainly use a little more depth at MLB, but if Havner plays outside this may lead the way for Landon Johnson to move back inside.

by mattverhage on Sep 6, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year

He was listed by the Pack as a LB but, he played TE. I used him to fill a D spot on my fantasy team and got points for his offensive production. The same will work this year.

Expectations don't produce!

by 2manyears on Sep 6, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year +

TE Spencer Havner, a converted linebacker who became a cult hero as “Mr. Touchdown” in the red zone with four touchdowns in 2009.

Expectations don't produce!

by 2manyears on Sep 6, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Wikipedia. Seems like he had a pretty good college career as a LB
After a redshirt freshman year, Havner became a four year starter for UCLA. In 2002, he started 13 games and made 96 tackles with 2 sacks with 2 interceptions. In 2003, Havner started 12 of 13 games and had 82 tackles, 1 sack and 3 inteceptions. As a junior in 2004, Havner earned First-team All-America acclaim from CBS Sportsline.com and College Football News and was selected Second-team All-America by the Walter Camp Football Foundation. He was one of 12 semifinalists for both the Butkus Award and the Rotary Lombardi Award. Havner missed the Pioneer PureVision Las Vegas Bowl after having arthroscopic knee surgery, but, in 11 games, he accounted for 125 tackles, 1 sack and 2 interceptions. In 2005, Havner led the team with 99 tackles and 3 interceptions and added 2 sacks. Havner led UCLA to a 10-2 record with a win in the 2005 Sun Bowl versus Northwestern, where he made 7 tackles and had 1 interception in a 50-38 victory.

if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin

by JCruize on Sep 6, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Typo?

Hey Sean, I think you may have mistyped the last sentence in the 2nd paragraph. I assume that you meant to say, “He is listed as a linebacker on the release sent out by the team announcing the move and he is also a [linebacker] on their roster” not,“he is also a tight end on their roster”.

by mattverhage on Sep 6, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Corrected

That’s what I get for not reading through it

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by Sean Yuille on Sep 6, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had it backwards.

Yesterday, I thought he’d be a throw back, playing both sides of the ball, offense/defense ( in a pinch ). Be interesting to see where he does spend most of his time. You know for sure he’ll be on the suicide squad…

" I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this. " " What are you doin' here? You oughta be out in a convertible bird-doggin' chicks and bangin' beaver. " " Medication time. Medication time. " ( One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - 1975 )

by Keevatron on Sep 6, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

i've been waiting for this! love it.

Previously DrewMoney$$$ "banned from sbnation" ...

by DetroitDrew1980 on Sep 6, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

have bean?

jeez.

I don’t want add player does not have blue collar mentality,
even if he is great player. Piston should not quit your job. - OK from J

by Skylar on Sep 6, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the Schwartz Press Conference

 They are getting him up to speed at LB but have plans to also get him up to speed at TE FB and special teams also.

I thought being lazy was a bad thing, So I gave up thinking.

by Wayne Fontes on Sep 6, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Vrable and Klecko

Both defensive players who in goal line situations made excellent targets. My guess is Linehan and Gun will both find ways to use his talent. He also adds depth to 2 positions for D and Offense. Not many guys can do that anymore.

I had a dream were the Lions let me sign a 1 day contract they let me practice with them running drills and catching passes from Matt…At the end of the day I was called into Mayhews office. I was told I had just been traded to seattle for a 5th round draft pick.

by The Profiler on Sep 6, 2010 5:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Im sure if we get more guys

hes one of the first to go

Dre Bly should still be a lion

by DetroitLions 4 life on Sep 6, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, Maybe they can teach Havner to place kick or punt too!

What a multiple threat he would be…..a tackling, receiving kicker!

I can see the designed trick plays for him now!!!!

by NorthLeft12 on Sep 6, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

How about teaching him to be a LS

… and a punter … He can punt his own snaps … Now that would be talent .. Lolllllllllll

by Libran on Sep 6, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I found another site drooling over him also...

But I’m not around a computer and getting some of these non-mobile sites to load is a biatch.

It might of been a link from PFT.

by delusional on Sep 6, 2010 7:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

doubtful.. but glad he is here

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by det32 on Sep 6, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont get me wrong I like Follett.

I just havent seen anuthing amazing or out of the norm. I know hes young and he may improve but to be honest Johnson and Palmer both had better preseasons.

by BennieBladesFan on Sep 6, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Just dont think he will fair well. Hope he does but just dont see it happening.

by BennieBladesFan on Sep 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

A very versatile dude

Could be a real asset.

RIP Robyn Bailey 1961 - 2010. I love you mum.

by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 7, 2010 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Another Linebacker surprise?

I. Alama-Francis (remember him?) Is starting OLB this Sunday. Can’t remember which team. Miami maybe.

by dylan415 on Sep 7, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

dylan is right. It is Miami.

The NFL.com depth chart shows him behind the rookie LB that Gunther wanted to draft Koa Misi, but I had heard that IAF may actually start. as the rush LB.

Go figure.

by NorthLeft12 on Sep 7, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crazy

didn’t think there was any way he could end up a solid pro. Suppose it might give Millen an extremely small amount of vindication.

by motown313 on Sep 7, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure it is as simple as that.......
Just like that, it’s clear as crystal why Alama-Francis is getting first-team snaps over Misi. The Dolphins are looking at IAF as more of a situational run stopper because of his ability to set the edge. Ike is a converted defensive lineman, after all, whose strength is stuffing the run. Misi, meanwhile, isn’t as physically big and strong – but is more athletic and versatile.

This means Koa could be losing snaps on early downs this year to Alama-Francis until he improves his ability to set the edge and stop the run.

LINK: http://www.thephinsider.com/2010/8/30/1657879/is-koa-misis-starting-job-at-risk

Looks like he will be a situational pass rusher until he gets stronger against the run. In another article the Dolphins coach talked about Misi getting four to five hundred snaps this season. There was a lot of discussion on the Phinsider regarding how well IAF was actually playing and whether this was a motivational ploy [I doubt it] or an honest attempt to improve the run defence. There was a lot of concern about IAF’s ability to cover on any pass plays.

by NorthLeft12 on Sep 8, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very surprising....

RIP Robyn Bailey 1961 - 2010. I love you mum.

by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 7, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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