Lions Notes: Updates On Zack Follett, Louis Delmas, Julian Peterson, Others
by Sean Yuille on Jan 4, 2011 10:18 AM EST
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Print- Zack Follett's status for next season and beyond is extremely up in the air. He is continuing to rehab and is trying to work his way back, but his neck injury could threaten his career because the disc that received damage has very little space between it and his spinal cord right now. The possibility for paralysis exists if he returned to the game and received any more damage with the way his neck is right now, so there's no guarantee he will return to the NFL at all next season.
- Louis Delmas' gun was used in a road rage incident. Delmas was the passenger when Ravelle Sadler, a former teammate at Western Michigan, allegedly waved the gun at another car at 2:15 a.m. on Dec. 21. Delmas wasn't charged for the incident and charges aren't anticipated by the Canton police, but Sadler is facing three counts of assault with a deadly weapon, a felony firearms charge and a charge involving the carrying of a concealed weapon. Jim Schwartz said Monday that the Lions are aware of the incident, talked to Delmas about it and have no comment.
- DeAndre Levy and Louis Delmas are going to have groin surgery this offseason and Chris Houston is going to have shoulder surgery.
- Surgery isn't in the cards for Jahvid Best and his turf toes, but he apparently has been "encouraged" to stay off his feet for the next eight weeks. No wonder he struggled so much after getting hurt.
- Stephen Peterman may have foot surgery done this offseason.
- Julian Peterson, who was inactive on Sunday, was briefly at the Lions' practice facility on Monday and declined to comment on any questions. Tom Kowalski reports that there was an apparent incident at the facility on Saturday that led to him being inactive. Whatever happened, it's pretty obvious at this point that he won't be back next season, as the Lions are expected to release him.
- Cliff Avril is going to be a free agent this offseason, but he "definitely" wants to return to the Lions.
- How's this for an amazing stat: Detroit went 4-0 to finish the 2010 season. Before that they went 4-41 in their previous 45 games. Wow. (Via Kevin Seifert)
- Ndamukong Suh finished the season with 10 sacks. The NFL single-season sack record for rookie defensive tackles is 10.5, so Suh just barely missed it.
- Hall of Famer Charlie Sanders thinks Brandon Pettigrew, who broke many of his records this season, is the "most complete tight end in the league."
- Lawrence Jackson posted a pretty funny tweet on Twitter following the win over the Vikings: "Would like to say thx to @petecarroll for trading me...pete best thing you've done since the letter of intent to USC!!! Go Lions"
- Dominic Raiola said he would be a "depressed human being" if there is a lockout and no football next season.
- Peter King put the Lions 15th in his end-of-season rankings.
- New governor Rick Snyder was sworn in on Saturday and planned to watch the Lions-Vikings game on Sunday. He's definitely a sports fan, as he was spotted at a Michigan basketball game last month.
- Congrats to Elfuego51 for finishing on top of the standings in Pride of Detroit Pick'em.
- The Vikings, as expected, removed the interim tag from Leslie Frazier, making him their new head coach.
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I think I have a whole new level of respect for Jahvid now.
Can you imagine playing fourteen games with an injury that you have to stay off your feet for EIGHT WEEKS to have it heal?
I heard somewhere that he had to have his toes taped so that they were curled into his feet to play. Are you kidding me!?!
But guys on here like to call him soft and a bust.
Hey NL…
There was a game about half way through the season when they showed Jahvid sitting on a sideline table with team doctors looking at his bare feet. It was so gross I almost spit out my beer. Both feet were purple and black half way the length of the foot, not just his toes.
How the hell did that kid play with that awful the pain?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world, the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Yeah those guys earned a lot of respect
All those guys playing through serious injuries are amazing to me. Not only did they play but they played well enough to win.
You guys think Best will be any better running up the middle next year? Maybe he doesn’t have to be a reggie bush type back. Maybe thats the only way he could perform with his injury.
Your first comment on this site. And that is it???? - JCruize
While you guys are kissing Javhid's feet, wouldn't the wiser thing would be to ask.
WTF was he even playing for? If he was that bad he should of sat instead of being a detriment to the running game.
The only legend around here is the one that exists in your own mind.
Because it's a nagging injury...
like a muscle pull….
The player is able to play at 80-90% the whole year, and miss a few games when it worsens….
Plus, I think this experience will improve Best’s offseason conditioning, teach him his body’s true limit, how to play with pain… and make him that much better when healthy.
Even resting any RB for 8 weeks during the season and then throwing him into a game could cause more damage physically to the player than playing through the pain.
Think about it.
How about experience?
Experience.
How about 4 straight wins.
Your first comment on this site. And that is it???? - JCruize
If Jahvid's feet were as gross as M_F said, I doubt I would want to kiss them.
I guess the simple answer is that he played because he could and his team needed him. What would you say about a guy who would refuse to play if he had an OWIE on his toe?
I want to have guys on the team who will play through pain to try and contribute. It is the Coaches’ call whether he can contribute or not…..in this type of situation.
"kissing his feet" is an inaccurate way to describe praising a guy
Who tried his best (no pun) to contribute through a debilitating injury. C’mon.
Fire CJ and trade Schwartz lol
by spicymchaggis on Dec 12, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply Star Unrec? 1
by Skylar on Jan 4, 2011 11:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lighten up.
I’m not knocking his trying to play, I’m wondering if he was so bad why they let him continue to try to play in the first place. He obviously was struggling.
The only legend around here is the one that exists in your own mind.
again...
His whole body is in ‘playing shape’… except he has turf toe… Would you rather have Best rest 8 weeks and play with his body out of playing shape, but with healthy toes?
That just doesn’t make sense.
You play through turf toe… the player has the whole offseason to heal.
You thought he was a plus player for most of the season?
The only legend around here is the one that exists in your own mind.
are you saying he didn't make big plays at key times?
I like mo morris ok but he isn’t as explosive as Best is even with his turf toe. And once Ksmooth went down we would have been down to only Morris.
Your first comment on this site. And that is it???? - JCruize
Ok lets calm down here
Best is by far the best RB on the Lions roster. Mo Morris was more effective than best the second half of the season without doubt. Best couldn’t stop and go or make sharp cuts…so it’s kind of hard to be effective only being capable of running in straight lines. Both will be back next season, and Best will be the starter and Morris will be the backup or 3rd string depending on the K Smooth situation. If KS is back, Morris is 2nd string, if not, he’s probably 3rd string.
Um, I'm saying he should of sat way more then he did, instead of forcing him out there when he was obviously hurt.
Relax, I’m not knocking his talent potential.
The only legend around here is the one that exists in your own mind.
And I'm saying...
I’m glad he was out there. I don’t think he could’ve sat out any more than he did.
If you noticed… Schwartz did rest him for the final push giving MoMO the load of the carries.
RBs and Turf toe… its nasty… but it happens and it will not go away during the season.
I respect what you are saying...
But I seriously doubt that he was “forced” to do anything. My bet is that he wanted to play, lobbied the coaches to play, and played because he was willing and they needed him.
Mo Morris did a fine job in a couple of games and a few scenarios…but even with the injury, Jahvid Best was more explosive. I’m not knocking you for knocking him, because I don’t think you are. I am just saying that Best played because he wanted to and because the coaches knew that, even with the turf toes, he had more potential to take it to the house, on any given play, than Maurice Morris.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
I respect what you are saying...
But I seriously doubt that he was “forced” to do anything. My bet is that he wanted to play, lobbied the coaches to play, and played because he was willing and they needed him.
Mo Morris did a fine job in a couple of games and a few scenarios…but even with the injury, Jahvid Best was more explosive. I’m not knocking you for knocking him, because I don’t think you are. I am just saying that Best played because he wanted to and because the coaches knew that, even with the turf toes, he had more potential to take it to the house, on any given play, than Maurice Morris.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
lmao...that was wierd
It double posted the subject of my post…
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
Yeah...I saw you post pretty much the same thing, right after I did
Funny…we were thinking the same thing.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
The guys playing through injuries are some of what gives me hope for this team.
Look at shaun hill out there playing with a broken arm and finger. These guys are warriors.
Your first comment on this site. And that is it???? - JCruize
You had a good breakdown in the last Javid discussion Dawg. I appreciated it.
The running game was pretty bleak there for a while, that’s all.
I regressed, I said I was just going to look forward, I’ll try from here on out…lol
The only legend around here is the one that exists in your own mind.
I agree
But we were facing some very good run defenses. We have to keep our expectations in perspective.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
One thing I read as to the reason the running game improved wasn't so much the insertion of Hilliard, or MoMo...but
The increase in playing time of Will Heller.
The only legend around here is the one that exists in your own mind.
yep. Heller was used aas the lead blocker alot
If you can re-watch any of the highlights. Especially the Bucs game. When MoMo had that big run in overtime. Heller was lined up as the wing on the left side of the formation. Came in motion. And he plower thru the hole MoMo ran thru.
The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. - Niels Bohr
I'm a big Scheffler fan, but he can't block for crap...
Pettigrew is a good blocker, but Heller is pretty much an olinemen. Should be used in I-form on the goal line.
It sure does seem that way, doesn't it?
The only legend around here is the one that exists in your own mind.
Three things stick out to me
1. The Jahvid story. I mean we really can expect unbelievable things if this guy stays healthy. Unbelievable that he was out there doing what he could with a injury that severe.
2 and 3 would be Dominic talking about next season and Cliff saying he wants to be here.
Whatever you think of Schwartz coaching style he deserves props for the culture change. He did it without humiliating anyone or calling anyone out or bending to the media and fans pleas that he be more aggressive etc…
I thought that he was on the verge of losing the team after the Buffalo game but whatever he was doing (and none of us really knows what happens inside the locker room) he stayed the course and clearly it worked.
This team is excited to play for him and for each other and that is something separate from the wins and losses that Schwartz completely deserves credit for.
Wait, being a big man on a blog doesn't make me a big man in real life? WTF!!??
Something I noticed...
Was that the offensive play calling got a LOT more aggressive in the last 4 weeks. Plus we were much closer to 50% pass and 50% run…which could have been part of the reason that our offense seemed more aggressive.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
And I agree...
Schwartz deserves a ton of credit for what he has done with this team since 2008…we are so close to playoff contention that I can taste it.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
A few thoughts
Whatever Follett decides you have to wish him the best. He’s a guy that was on the practice squad, brought up to play, then cut, put back on the practice squad and played his heart out to make his way to being a starter.
Jahvid’s turf toes….he had it on both feet and still played the entire season. Tarvaris Jackson had it on one foot and they put him on IR. In my book Best gets the BAMF title for having it on both feet and still managing to be effective at times(not consistently obviously though).
If Grew con concentrate better and not drop the ball as much(which he made progress with through the year, but the problem would still creep back now and again) he’s gonna be a beast. He could make people forget about Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates.
I love that LoJack posted that even though the Seahawks made the playoffs. I think it shows that he realizes that even though they made the playoffs the Lions are a better team then anything in the NFC West.
LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!
That LoJack quote was golden.
Fire CJ and trade Schwartz lol
by spicymchaggis on Dec 12, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply Star Unrec? 1
by Skylar on Jan 4, 2011 11:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1 for Lo Jack
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing." — Peyton Manning
couple of things
Cliff will be back I honestly believe it will happen in the coming weeks. Cliff wants to be back and you know the lions want him back he will get paid and locked down for several years. Louis has to be smart you can’t allow things like this to happen. I know he wasn’t at “fault” but come on man. I was sure Levy and Delmas would have surgery but I was positive Best would have to as well as long as he played on that. Does anyone here feel Peterman will even be on the team next year? Brack yourselves I see Peterson doing a Larry Foote and running his mouth..leave it to a spartan to go out like a bitch. Seriously Julian show some class…Last and most Pulling for ya Zack POD loves ya man..
The players are buying in and we have a bright future- (The Pain Train) Zack Follett.
by The Profiler on Jan 4, 2011 11:01 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Why smear MSU for no reason?
…so invalidating.
Fire CJ and trade Schwartz lol
by spicymchaggis on Dec 12, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply Star Unrec? 1
by Skylar on Jan 4, 2011 11:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Its college football
If you aint learned that by now you are behind
The players are buying in and we have a bright future- (The Pain Train) Zack Follett.
by The Profiler on Jan 4, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Typical Michigan fan...
So let me get this straight… You call spartans bitches, because you predict a former spartan will in fact act like a bitch… similar to the documented bitchass actions of a former Wolverine(Foote)????
Too funny.
WOW you guys are taking this way to serious
lol
The players are buying in and we have a bright future- (The Pain Train) Zack Follett.
I know
That wasn’t on accident
The players are buying in and we have a bright future- (The Pain Train) Zack Follett.
Its college football If you aint learned that by now you are behind
Uh, right.
This is Pride of Detroit. Lions. Fuck everything else.
Fire CJ and trade Schwartz lol
by spicymchaggis on Dec 12, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply Star Unrec? 1
easy now
Just a joke and not a very good one
The players are buying in and we have a bright future- (The Pain Train) Zack Follett.
maybe i missed it
what about stafford? Is he going to get any kind of surgery or rehab for that shoulder of his to make it better?
by Usman 'Uzi' Altafullah on Jan 4, 2011 11:13 AM EST reply actions
No surgery for Staff
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing." — Peyton Manning
Stafford and Best...
are spending the next 8 weeks together… one will open the beers, while the other just fetches the beer.
by CLF on Jan 4, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Staffs girls will feed them both.
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing." — Peyton Manning
I still think he should...
I feel getting the surgery (which would be the same Bradford had) could potentially better his shoulder more in the long run. I’m not medically knowledgeable by a long shot, but I still feel this to be.
Jahvid Best
He definitely earned my respect playing through all the pain this season. I hope he fully recovers because he could be a beast if he stays healthy next year.
by Detroitsportsfan3 on Jan 4, 2011 11:16 AM EST reply actions
Cliff and Lojack
Glad to see them ready to continue playing for the Lions.
And Best….wow…..8 weeks. My respect just shot through the roof for him. So ready to see Mathew Stafford getting him the ball next year.
Its almost the off season, Lets the madness begin!!
You know, Maybe it’s time to talk to the players union and ban any NFL player from owning a gun. That’s what body guards are for. I miss the days when players were role models for how everyone should try to grow up to be. Of course, these things were still going on, you just didn’t have the internet to report it.
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Impossible to do
You can’t take away someone’s constitutional right because they are “supposed” to be role models in your and other people’s eyes. Can’t even imagine that fight that would break out trying to do something like that. No court would allow it.
You can absolutely make not owning a hand gun a condition of employment
In the same way you can make not saying disparaging things about your company a condition of employment. The constitution prevents governmental interference of gun ownership. It has nothing to do with the policies of a private corporation.
by Trysdor on Jan 4, 2011 1:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I will bet you a million dollars that this will never happen.
Your first comment on this site. And that is it???? - JCruize
Wrong
No company can create a policy against the law or the constitution of the United States of America, that will hold up in any court. If I were fired for owning a gun, against the “policy” of a company, or even if I were fired for “disparaging” comments that were not detrimental to the company’s image or which did not cause punitive damages, then I would fight it tooth and nail, and I would win.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
Yeah I think you are right Kdawg
They could keep you from bringing the gun to work but I don’t see how they could dictate what you own.
Your first comment on this site. And that is it???? - JCruize
There's a company in michigan...
…that made it against company policy to be a smoker.
They didn’t just ban people from smoking on their campus or while working; they made it so if you were a smoker, you were terminated.
I wrote a nice editorial about it a few years back.
KVCC
Kalamazoo Valley Community College did the same thing a few years back. Not only a smoke free campus but they required all their employees to undergo smoking cessation classes or just stop smoking.
LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!
That is just wrong...
This is a democracy, not a tyranny. Sounds like those affected either had no desire to fight, needed a reason to quit, or were just plain to poor (or not smart enough to find resources) to stand up for their rights.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
Well
Health Insurance companies can deny you if you smoke…smoking isn’t healthy. As a college the teachers and staff are potential role models…wouldn’t you want a healthy example? I used to smoke about a pack a night when I was a bouncer at Deja Vu in Kalamazoo…don’t smoke anymore and I think I’m better off for having stopped. Just my opinion. Wait…why are we talking about this?
LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!
Somehow this has to do with Delmas.
I think if they banned NFL players from having friends, this might be more effective.
If you can't spell practise write, then dont repond!
I completely disagree with you
A contract freely made cannot be interfered with, so long as it isn’t signed under duress, under fraud, under undue influence, or is unconscionable. The NFL has the power to regulate dangerous activities in the contracts of it’s players. If the NFL deems possession of a firearm to be a dangerous activity, it could include that clause in any contract, and a player who signed it would be obligated to follow that contract, lest their contract be voided. There is no constitutional protection from signing your constitutional rights away in a completely legitimate contract. Signing those contracts is required to play in the NFL. No court is going to find the idea that possessing a firearm is risky behavior to be unconscionable, so the contract would be legitimate.
Overruled
Any contract that is created is null and void if any portion of that contract is unlawful. Last time I checked, the Constitution of the United States of America (including the bill of rights) was the highest law in the land. No person may enter a lawfully binding contract that supersedess the law, and as such any contract signed which takes away the rights of a citizen of the USA is thereby unconstitutional, null, void, and utterly useless if questioned in court. JORDAN FADES BACK…SWOOSH! AND THAT’S THE GAME!!
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
by KDawg on Jan 5, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The contract is not unlawful in any way.
Not owning a gun is 100% legal. Therefore, agreeing to not own a gun is 100% legal. If a gameshow, for example, required you to not speak for the duration of the show as one of the shows rules, signing a contract to that effect is completely legal, because agreeing contractually not to exercise a right is totally legal. Rights are things that can’t be TAKEN from you. Every person in the country who doesn’t own a gun is lawfully choosing not to engage in their 2nd amendment right. They could just as lawfully sign a contract agreeing to continue to not own a gun. What you’re doing is confusing constitutinal rights with workplace discrimination law. The two are only very tangentially related. All the NFL needs is some justification for their action, and regulative dangerous activity would certainly qualify.
by Trysdor on Jan 5, 2011 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol...
Not owning a gun is 100% legal. Therefore, agreeing to not own a gun is 100% legal.
Oye Vei!
A contract forcing a person from owning a gun…. that is what you are fighting for?
hmmm…. me thinks that if a person legally obtained a fire arm in the state that person resides… and/or already legally owned a firearm….
Would void the contract in a heart beat.
by CLF on Jan 5, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
somebody, Shoot Me!
"Lemme Tell you why I have confidence in the long term future of this team... It's #9, That's why I have confidence in the long term future of this Team." - Jim Schwartz
Nobody is "forcing" anything
A contract is an agreement between two parties. In exchange for x, you will get y. If the NFL player agreed to not owning a gun as a stipulation of his contract, then it’s a totally legitimate agreement between two parties. One that, if broken, would either void the contract or lead to penalties stipulated in the contract. KDawg is citing the idea of an illegal contract in the incorrect way. A contract in which the x or y is an activity that is illegal is not a legal contract. For example, a contract requring a felon to own a guy would be an completely illegal contract. But, simply put, you are allowed to surrender voluntarily your legal rights. That’s exactly what you would be doing when you signed a contract with the NFL. The only way that contract would be striken down would be if it weren’t signed legitimately, or if the terms were unconscionable. As I said, no judge is going to rule that the idea that owning a firearm is a dangerous activity is unconscionable. This is not the same thing as violating anti-discrimination suits. If someone were fired for owning a guy, then they might theoretically have a discrimination case. Not, though, if someone signed a contract agreeing to not own a gun. That is a completely legitimate agreement.
ok...I concede
TECHNICALLY you are right. Since the prospect of making milions of dollars per year probably would outweigh a person’s desire to own a gun, then I could see where they would make that choice. HOWEVER, since it would be a condition of employment, I think it would be forcing some people to agree to give up their rights. Sounds like a discretely legal way to circumvent the law to me, under the guise of a “conscionable choice” to me….and I still bet it could be beaten in court.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
If that were True
The Williams wall would have been suspended two years ago and not playing ring-around-the rosie in the court system because NFL contract conflicts with a state law.
I thought being lazy was a bad thing, So I gave up thinking.
What you're talking about is labor law
Law specifically designed and intended to protect the worker from certain specified abuses by their employer. Drug testing, such as the star caps case, falls under the scope of these labor laws. Constitutional rights such as gun ownership do not. If a specific statute of labor law indicated that a worker can’t surrender any of his constitutional rights as a condition of employment existed in the jurisdiction of the case, then obviously a contract to the contrary would be illegal. As far as I am aware, no such labor law exists.
My takes
I really do hope Follett can heal well enough to play football, if maybe not in 2011 at least in 2012 and beyond. It’s a darn shame him getting injured like that. He’s a real blue collar guy that relates well to fans in Detroit and even if the starting scenario didn’t work out for the best, I still think he is a great backup/spec. teams guy.
I like that Schwartz and Mayhew don’t play into the media on these situations that they look to blow up into something from nothing. I’m sure Jim and MArty gave Delmas a good little talking to about not getting caught up in stupid shit and left it at that.
Glad to see Peterson getting his walking papers.
And finally, I didn’t get Lo Jacks thing…was he taking shot at Pete Carroll while thanking him for trading him out of Seattle or what?
Once a disk is damaged
there is no real way to repair it. You can’t just put more in or hope it regenerates.
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing." — Peyton Manning
It's sad
Another Lion linebacker who may never play again due to a neck injury. We had another very promising LB named Reggie Brown, who suffered a similar fate (the difference was that Brown had a spinal injury in his neck that forced him to retire early). Chris Spielman, the toughest SOB that ever wore Honolulu Blue and Silver, also was forced to retire due to neck injuries (the first of which came in 1997 and required spinal surgery…the second came in his preseason return to the NFL, with the Browns, in 1999…after we replaced him with Stephen Boyd (who also retired due to chronic neck and back pain)). I guess it is just the nature of the beast sometimes, but it is sad that Follet will likely never have the opportunity to showcase his true potential.
Other comments:
The Delmas incident – I’m glad that Louis will not face charges and that he must not have had any control over what his friend did.
Surgeries – Hopefully Levy and Delmas come back at 100% and in better shape than they were with the injured groins. I think either Peterman will be a backup in Detroit next season, or he will be gone. I wish Stafford would just get the shoulder surgery and get it over with, and I hope that Jahvid Best’s toes heal properly and that he does not suffer recurring injuries next season.
Avril and Peterson – I am happy that Cliff wants to be here, and I am sure he will be for a long time to come. I thought that Peterson was better than people gave him credit for this season, but I will not be upset to see him go since we have Palmer and Carpenter waiting in the wings.
Suh – He is the MAN…enough said.
Pettibeast – Brandon Pettigrew is a young player with a ton of potential. If he continues to improve like he did this season, he will be the best TE in the NFL within the next 2 years. The praise given by Charlie Sanders is taken with a grain of salt from my perspective, as I feel part of the reason he is saying these things is because Pettigrew is better than he was and because Sanders was also a Lion TE (now giving props and encouragement to the modern player).
Lo-Jack – I am pretty much just as happy that we have Lawrence Jackson, and that we got him AND Rob Sims away from Seattle, as he is happy to be here. I believe he and Sims will both be rewarded with Super Bowl rings in the near future. It is really nice to hear him say what he said, and it speaks volumes about the culture change in Detroit.
Dominic Raiola, Rick Synder, and Leslie Frazier – 1 certain failure and 2 potentials…I want Raiola gone, and I would love to see his departure include a large foot in the ass. I’ll reserve judgment on Synder until I see what happens over the next few years, but I think Leslie Frazier will be a stop gap coach during a long rebuilding phase for the Vikings.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
Didn't you hear Snyder's quote???
‘I will not blow you away in 5 years’
lol
Seriously though… not truly the guy I voted for in the primaries… but better than a crooked Bernero, whom would’ve made the Canadian actress look like a freakin’ genius.
by CLF on Jan 4, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I liked none of them, and would have rather had Bernero
But like I said…I’ll give him a chance.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
I'm with KDawg
I’m hoping Snyders decent sounding ideas don’t just turn into the same propaganda, then it will be the same thing as in 2008, everyone’s pissed turning back to Dems who will undoubtedly lose it back two years later, and so on.
The toughest in Honolulu Blue may not be debatable to you,
I always think of Cory Schlesinger as being a tough SOB. A passage from his Wiki page:
He is well known for frequently breaking his face masks through his hard nosed playing style, earning the nickname “Anvil Head”. He has broken over 200 face masks to date, which works out to more than one per game. Despite playing just 13 games due to injury in 2004, he broke 20 face masks on the season.[
If you can't spell practise write, then dont repond!
Shit was legendary, I remember watching him play and hearing about the mask streaks
He sold many of them via auction for charities, both local and nationwide.
Fire CJ and trade Schwartz lol
by spicymchaggis on Dec 12, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply Star Unrec? 1
Oh yeah
Schlesinger was definitely a bad mofo…there is no questioning that. However, Spielman played with a torn pectoral muscle at one point. Maybe “toughest ever” was an overstatement…but I always admired Chris Spielman’s heart and toughness.
It's a terrible thing to have to tell your fans, who have waited like Detroit's have, that their team won't win it this year. But it's better than lying to them.
--Sparky Anderson
I read that he broke over 200 facemasks.
Your first comment on this site. And that is it???? - JCruize
Linebackers
I find it kind of funny, and sad, that if you look back to when we had Julian Peterson, Larry Foote, and Ernie Sims as starters…. We thought we had one of the best linebacking corps in the country.
Ashlee Palmer has looked great recently and I hope he can continue making strides, it would make one less hole to fill. I do hope that we draft an outside linebacker for the 3rd LB slot though, picking up someone in free agency would be good as well, especially considering Palmer and Levy are both pretty young, as long as long as who we pick up isnt deteriorating old (Peterson). Carpenter has also looked pretty good, but I see him as more of a depth guy.
Detroit Lions = Super Bowl Champs in 2013... Only thing that could stop is a possible world appocalypse the year before
Gotta ask
Did you give up on Follett before or after hearing about the injury? I hope the guy can come back and be a good player…a lot of people gave up on him after the first or second time he was in the starting line up. Which sucks….he was still getting his feet wet so to speak.
LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!
I thought he played...
as well as Ernie Sims… and maybe a bit better as he didn’t overpursue as much. His pass coverage was decent, though there were a couple picks he left onthe field.
Goal line… he was out fucking standing. Which was a good sign that he was on his way…. a lot less to think about with your back against the wall.
Overall… when the pain train is coming at you… you aren’t getting through.
by CLF on Jan 4, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Follett vs Sims
I think Follett edged out Sims be just a little bit (not much) in level of play, for what little bit he was in. He didn’t over pursue as much as Sims, but this was also his first time starting. So, he was probably trying to prove he deserved to be out there, and it backfired a little bit. I think with a little work on pass coverage and a little work on how to not over pursue he could be pretty good. However, that’s if he ever plays again. Hope the neck injury isn’t as bad as they are thinking.
LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!
Follett's goal line heroics made me a big time fan of his this season.
Wish he was active to experience the late season streak… Really hoping he comes back even stronger.
Fire CJ and trade Schwartz lol
by spicymchaggis on Dec 12, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply Star Unrec? 1
On Follett
I thought he was doing a hell of a job while he was playing and would love for him to make a great comeback…. BUT, I am not going to expect him to make it back any time soon nor do I want him to if its potentially life threatening. This is why I was sort of moving on without him in the discussion for next year. If he happens to come back and play well, Bonus!!
Detroit Lions = Super Bowl Champs in 2013... Only thing that could stop is a possible world appocalypse the year before
Thanks for the mention and congrats
A lot of blood and sweat went into those picks and after hours of pouring over each individual game, I’m glad to see it pay off with a pick’em championship.
Seriously though, I liked the opportunity to pick and win against some hardcore football fans, I look forward to defending the title next year.
Roger sent this out
If no one else seen it pretty good update on were the NFL is at
The players are buying in and we have a bright future- (The Pain Train) Zack Follett.
Lots to talk about
1 – I really hope Follett can play, but if it’s too dangerous than that’s that. I wouldn’t expect him to take that sorta risk. Best of wishes for him and his future.
2 – We must resign Cliff. He deserves it.
3 – I am something of a Grew homer, so that Sanders comment was pretty cool, but Grew needs to gain some consistency. If he plays at the level I believe he can play at, then I believe he is a pro-bowler.
4 – LoJack was a huge surprise to me. He had a great season and provided real good performances in that last half of the season.
RIP Robyn Bailey 1961 - 2010. I love you mum.
FOLLETT IS DONE.
when it comes to paralysis risk, safety needs to absolutely come first—especially considering the risk he has based on his style of play.
As much as really loved watching him play. I hope he finds something fun to do with his youth! He was a great lion!
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