The Latest On Matthew Stafford, Jahvid Best
by Sean Yuille on Oct 26, 2011 3:19 PM EDT
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PrintThe Detroit Lions had their first practice of the week today, giving fans their first real indication of if starting quarterback Matthew Stafford and starting running back Jahvid Best will play. What is the indication? It's still too early to tell with Stafford, but Best is likely out.
The good news with Stafford is that he was in uniform and did participate in practice on a limited basis. The bad news is Shaun Hill took the first-team reps. Obviously that doesn't mean Stafford will miss Sunday's game, but it's important to get Hill first-team reps in case Stafford doesn't play. It's tough for me to even guess what his status will be for Sunday, but based on his comments yesterday, I'm slightly leaning toward him being out.
"I think every competitor plans on playing," Stafford said in an appearance on the Mitch Albom Show on WJR-AM (760) today. "We’ll see if that comes true. I’ve got to keep getting better to get there, but I want to, obviously."
Considering Stafford vowed in the offseason to play all 16 games, I would expect him to try to play if he can. The coaches (and trainers) will ultimately have to make the decision about if he's healthy enough, as you don't want Stafford to try to get into the game and make the injury worse.
As for Best, he wasn't even at practice today. Considering he is still recovering from his concussion, it doesn't seem likely he will be ready to go on Sunday. That could definitely change, but with Best it might be wise to give him another week off with the bye right around the corner.
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How does that make any sense?
He’s injured right now. Whether or not he plays has nothing to do with that.
It’s not “missing games prone.”
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
by Mavyrk on Oct 26, 2011 3:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True, but...
…he plays and the media leaves the story alone. He misses the game and the media goes with the whole “injury prone” story for the next 3 weeks. So JonnieT does have a point. Yes, he’s injured and labeled injury prone. But if he doesn’t play, the media will over-analyze and run the story into the ground.
How does that work?
I’m pretty sure most people would have some ankle troubles after a 300+ lb guy falls directly on it…
That's not the point
The point is that every time Stafford gets tackled or hit, there’s like a good chance that he’ll be out for one or more games. Everyone here knows it, and Stafford knows it. That’s why he rushes everything now. He’s not durable, he is a China doll.
That's pretty inaccurate...
Stafford has been sacked 14 times and probably hit at least 40 other times (couldn’t find the exact stat) and has yet to miss a play in 2011 due to injury. I get that you are generalizing over his career but he has a pretty good base of work this year that should be looked at before just saying he is a china doll.
by gotothejoe on Oct 26, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
oh good god it's you again?
Ok, you’ve got an opinion. Express it. Just don’t be surprised when you’re laughed at when you make stupid, yes STUPID, statements like:
The point is that every time Stafford gets tackled or hit, there’s like a good chance that he’ll be out for one or more games. Everyone here knows it, and Stafford knows it.
If you’re just trolling to get a reaction out of people you’re pathetic.
If that honestly is your opinion and you’re just sharing it with us out of the kindness of your heart, thanks, now go bury your head back in the sand until the next dose of negativity is needed.
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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Not trying to be a dick.
but the china doll comment was originated by a player who now doesnt play in the league due to injury..Not in anyway trying to disrespect zach but kind of hypocritical the comment was in the first place.As for you jason ,your opinion is yours but its dumb!
I just ignore Jason Budd's comments.
From the looks of his posting history, he’s a Cornhusker fan who moonlights as a Stafford hater. It’s not even trolling, it’s just weak sauce.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
Yah, I’m not on 24/7, and I’m not a Stafford hater. He’s pretty good when he’s healthy. The problem is he’s not durable, which everyone in the world knows except for the people on this board apparently.
Stafford is the best quarterback ever, he’s more durable than Bret Favre, and the Lions will win the Super Bowl this year.
Your sarcasm really helps clarify that myth about you being a Stafford hater.
Really cleared that up for us.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Mr. Budd had a post that strayed from the China Doll yawnfest in another thread
…it’s solid, his take on how Detroit will fare for the rest of the regular season.
Just calling him a China Doll doesn’t do much. There’s more to him than that. The injuries are fluke shit. Dumb luck. Dude’s a gamer. I expect big things from him.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
You may not be a stafford hater..
But you definitely have cleared up any kind of intellegence questioning I may have had about you.
Sweet baby Jesus....
Go get em Hill.
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
Exactly... GO HILL
Shaun Hill was not my preferred back-up to Stafford, but the coaching staff declared that he got the job, so I had to adapt my outlook, in order to fully support the team. If Schwartz decides that Matthew is too limited for practice, and Hill is taking the 1st team snaps, I don’t think you can call this bad news. No matter how the Broncos have been playing this season, after two losses in Detroit, this is going to be a tough game, and the team needs a solid week of practice to iron out some wrinkles in the Offense, with those expected to play.
Stafford is our best, by far, even though he’s been struggling a bit, but that is part of the maturation process. He may even be going through an inclination to obsess on injury, and that is a part that he’ll have to include in his growth. The bottomline is this… if he is favoring that ankle, then let him rest it, so this doesn’t become a weekly distraction. If he has the same demeanor as he did on the Album Show, I don’t think he’s ready to lead the Lions to victory this week; he doesn’t appear to have the passion to play this one, so if Shaun Hill is called upon to replace him, I’m not looking at this as bad news. The Lions beat some good teams with Stafford out last season; teams better than Denver. I’m sure Schwartz will make the right call by Friday.
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by Gee Garold Lembach on Oct 26, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Why risk playing him?
Be safe and give him another week to be absolutely sure he is 100% for the bears game. Of course when this decision is made it then becomes obvious that he is indeed injury prone so we should give up on him, pay him gazillions to finish out his contract and play Hill the rest of the way.
Btw this is Matt Millen. Just borrowing Justan’s P C.
Someone is alive today simply because I can't afford a hitman.
For real
I put 2 links under the podcast.
"I like to win all the time, so all the time I play with myself."
He'll play
He’s already taking snaps, not limping, jogging around etc. 4 more days for a 24 year old is a LONG time to heal up. He’ll be fine by Sunday afternoon.
Best
non factor
"I like to win all the time, so all the time I play with myself."
My realistic expectations for the rest of this season
Beat Denver,lose to Chicago,beat Carolina, lose to greenbay andnew Orleans, beat minny and Oakland, toss up to San Diego and lose to greenbay. 9- 7 10-6. Good mind you but not enough to get through the playoffs. Draft an oline next year to make holes for best…. er leshoure. And maybe give staff more time in the pocket. My two cents anyway.
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Oct 26, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
I think 9-7 too. I hope they focus on O-Line in the offseason.
I wonder how much of a difference Leshoure would have made this year.
They got leshoure for a power runner who could probably be an every down back. But they still want bests explosiveness.
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Oct 26, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Probly would've been better but with our oline who the hell know if he would've been able to make a difference
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Oct 26, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
man this blows
i really wanted to watch Stafford play live. But i guess i can brag to my friends that our 2nd string qb beat their Broncos
The Lions are the better team on paper
but hopefully my Broncos show up, it will be good when this week is over, then I can hope for both the Broncos and Lions to do well again!
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by the new Bradfather on Oct 26, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
One would assume.
.. we’re down to our #2 QB, anything can happen.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
It was a tongue in cheek comment.
However, I really have no faith in hill to win on the road.
This offense isn’t “CRISP” enough, and needs a playmaker at the helm… hill is NOT a playmaker.
http://twitter.com/#!/rumbulls
Hil might be able to get it done. He won just as many games last year as any other Lions QB last year.
I’m not thrilled about it either, but we’ll find out.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
Just as many games...
in 3 times as many starts….lol.
Hill has nice stats. That’s what he’s good at.
http://twitter.com/#!/rumbulls
I know you want Stanton in, predictable. I have no allegiance to either school
So I don’t give a fuck who plays. It’s a toss up. I just want to win.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
I don’t really mind if Stafford doesn’t play. We are going against a middle of the league Broncos team and have a pretty above average backup QB. Denver won’t know who is starting all week and probably doesn’t have much NEW film on Hill. I’m sure he’ll be a little rusty in the beginning, but hey there will be less oxygen in the air so he shouldn’t rust too much. =) Stafford will get some rest and if the game gets out of hand at all Stanton could play. Maybe then Mayhew could leverage a back-up QBs performance into a trade for draft picks/OL.
Let him rest a week...
With the bye week this next week, I say let him rest. He doesn’t play 2 weeks in a row, it will give him time to recover a bit, and make him miss playing to be amped up when he comes back. Same with best. Personally, watching stafford play after that Chicago game, I think something was already hurting him, and I think it was his arm. Obviously I cannot be 100%, but he hasn’t really tried throwing deep the last couple games, and they kept seeming to try to run at the weirdest time in my opinion. After a big turn over, you would think they would try passing, but they kept trying to run, even against Atlanta, when the running game already stinks, not to mention best was out as well. They attempted mostly short passes, even when sheffler played last week, and he has been a good deep threat. At the end of the 9ers game, they seemed to just give up, when usually you would see stafford throw deep down the field. They were playing as though they didn’t want stafford to throw deep the last two game, seemingly telling me that his arm is bugging him. He has also been throwing the ball kind of weird as well… Idk, hope they just rest him and let him play after the bye. Hill is perfectly capable of winning, plus he can scramble well, and if stafford is having aches in his arm and having trouble with the deep ball, then hill can still do that as well. Maybe not as well as a healthy stafford, but well enough to get the ball to CJ, Young, or Scheffler as the deep threats. Pettigrew has seemingly become more of a dump off tight end…
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