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Welcome all. I hope you all enjoyed your bye week. I can honestly say that I did not. After years of having a sense of relief every bye week, it was a terribly disappointing Sunday watching football without the Lions on the slate.

This week, the Lions come into their biggest game of the season well-rested, yet still unhealthy. They will likely be without Jahvid Best, Jason Hanson hurt himself over the break (though he'll probably play anyway) and literally while I typed this sentence, the Lions signed a new punter (and disappointingly put Jason Fox on IR). All this comes at a terrible time, as this game against the Chicago Bears is absolutely essential to the playoff race. Besides this being an ever-important division game, the Lions have an opportunity to take a commanding lead in the wild card race. With a win, the Lions will essentially have a three-game lead over every NFC team besides the Falcons in the wild card race (two game lead over Bears, but with the tiebreaker, it is equivalent to three games). Despite their earlier victory over the Bears on Monday night, the Lions are actually two to three point underdogs in this game. Let's see if the charts agree.

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(Note: This week, I've added the color yellow, which means the team performed within 5% of the teams' average in that statistical category)

Lions Pass Offense (11th) vs. Bears Pass Defense (26th)

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Despite Matthew Stafford's perceived "struggles", the pass offense continues to keep this chart fairly clean. Last time the two teams played, the Lions only put up 219 passing yards, but in terms of passer rating, Stafford had one of his best games of the season. Since that game, the Lions also picked up former Bears safety Chris Harris, who may give extra insight into the Bears' secondary.

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*Vikings game was a mixture of Donovan McNabb and Christian Ponder

The Bears pass defense continues to look pretty average. Although, in the past two weeks, they've held two decent quarterbacks to absolutely terrible passer ratings. They rank 15th in passer rating allowed (83.5), 13th in yards per attempt (6.8), and 26th in completion percentage (63.9). What this matchup may come down to is protecting the quarterback. The Bears only have 16 sacks on the season (22nd), but they still have Julius Peppers, and we all remember what happened to Stafford last time he was in Chicago. Also, it appears Stafford will be wearing a glove for the first time in his career. It will be interesting to see if this has a noticeable effect on his passes. Overall, this appears to be a very average pass defense, so we can assume the Lions will perform somewhat near their averages, which, as you can see by this chart, is around 260 passing yards with a 99.1 passer rating. That's a win for the Lions +2.

Lions Pass Defense (27th) vs. Bears Run Defense (11th)

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Despite the feelings that the Lions are struggling in the running game, they have actually been pretty solid since the Bears game. In the past four weeks, they've outperformed averages in five of eight categories, met averages in two and failed to reach averages in just one category (just barely outside of the 5%). Their biggest success of the season actually came against the Bears, but the Lions will be without Best this time around. As you can see, the Lions haven't exactly struggled without him. Still, much of the Lions yardage against the Bears came from a couple of explosive plays that the Lions are somewhat incapable of without Best. 

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The Bears, too, have consistently played better since the Monday night game, holding their three opponents under averages in both yardage and yards per carry. Though the Bears rank 11th in rush yards allowed, they are tied for 28th in terms of yards per carry allowed (5.2), which is the same ranking as ... you guessed it, the Detroit Lions. Interestingly, the Bears only have 169 rushing attempts against them, which is the second least in the NFL, suggesting that this is the reasoning behind their high ranking in yards allowed. Still, the chart tells us that they are above average and playing well recently. Since the Lions are also trending in a positive direction, I have to give this matchup a draw.

Bears Pass Offense (18th) vs. Lions Pass Defense (6th)

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Wow. This chart is shockingly green. Jay Cutler is quietly having a great season. He has surpassed or met passing yard averages in every game but one (he only attempted 17 passes in the Carolina game). His passer rating stats are much more pedestrian, but he still outperformed averages in half of his games this season. The Bears are 13th in passer rating (85.6), 16th in yards per attempt (7.2) and 20th in completion percentage (58.7). The key to this matchup will be the Lions' ability to not only pressure Cutler, but bring him down when given the opportunity. The Bears have allowed the 11th most sacks (22), but only three in the past three games. Much of this has to do with Cutler's elusiveness and impressive abilities outside of the pocket. Last time the Lions faced the Bears, they had no trouble getting to Cutler but didn't bring him down too often. As a result, the Bears handily outperformed the Lions' defensive averages.

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The Lions haven't faced many elite passing offenses this year, but they've done a solid job making sure they aren't beaten through the air anyway. Again, they have performed well in the past three weeks (despite a 1-2 record). None of the past three teams were able to out-gain their averages in yardage or passer rating. Outside of the chart, stats show the Lions defense is borderline elite. They rank fourth in passer rating allowed (72.3), 21st in completion percentage (61.8), T-fourth in sacks (24) and FIRST in yards per attempt (5.8). Again, it's important to note that the best passing offense the Lions have faced is the Cowboys, but those stats are still impressive. Though the Bears won this matchup last time the two teams faced, I expect the Lions to rebound this week. I'd be shocked if the Bears managed to keep Cutler clean again this week, and I'd be just as shocked to see the Lions defensive linemen miss their opportunities to take Cutler down again. Lions +0.5.

Bears Run Offense (11th) vs. Lions Run Defense (28th) 
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After a slow start, the Bears have started to turn it on in the past three weeks. Matt Forte, in the midst of contract talks, has started to even garner some MVP talk. Forte is second in the league in rushing yards and the Bears are tied for first in rushes of over 20 yards (10). Last matchup, Forte and the Bears barely failed to meet season averages against the Lions, but they only managed 13 points in that game. 

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Yeesh. I keep expecting this chart to improve, but the Lions still haven't held an opponent below their rushing averages in either category since Week 4. The official Detroit Lions website tried to do some damage control this week by arguing that most of those yards are coming on big plays, and on the majority of carries, this is a great run defense. While it is true that much of the yards given up are due to big plays, that doesn't mean that those plays didn't happen or aren't prone to happening again. The Lions have given up the ninth most rushes of 20 yards (nine) and the most rushes of 40 yards or more (four). Even though the Lions won this advantage (barely) last game, there's no statistical reason for that to happen again. Bears +2. 

Overall

The Lions squeak out with a +0.5 advantage. There were a couple very interesting things about the breakdown this week. First, in the previous game, the Lions won two matchups that they weren't expected to (run offense and run defense). Similarly, they lost their pass defense matchup and split their pass offense matchup, two categories I am expecting them to win this week. Also, for fun, I decided to add up all of the cells to see which team had the most green. This was the breakdown:

Lions: 26 green, 26 red, 12 yellow

Bears: 32 green, 24 red, 8 yellow

Pretty surprising. However, this does not mean I am being nonobjective. The point in this preview is to see how the teams' units match up against each other, not who has the best performances in the past. So while the Bears may have more green, their advantages and disadvantages match up well for the Lions ... but not by much. This is going to be a closely fought match and, likely, a low-scoring game. The stakes haven't been this high for the Lions in a decade, and I'm sure they know that. Lions 20, Bears 17.

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It seems weird that we gave up over 150 yards 3 times

2 of those were blowout wins and the other was lost on a forth and goal conversion. I guess it’s because most of those yards against us come on big plays rather than game-long sustained clock killing drives.

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by WalterM on Nov 11, 2011 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

And also our solid pass D shutting things down on 3rd down.

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by WalterM on Nov 11, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

How about this

For instance in Denver other than the first drive. How many times did you see us give up a big run until garbage time?Not often, I’m not saying that’s how it has been every game but I would say that statistically has made a big difference.

by Michael21 on Nov 11, 2011 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

I like the addition of a neutral category

but you should make it grey instead of yellow. Yellow is going to have strong “caution” associations and make it seem like those scores are “bad, just not as bad as the red” when in fact you are saying “In this game they were average. neither good nor bad.” and that feeling is going to be with the color grey.

by ATL Lion on Nov 11, 2011 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

Don't Make it gray!!!

Reminds of the little guys who kidnapped me and then probed………. oops TMI
Great write up Sims

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by seabeeruss on Nov 11, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

A request for Simscity

What about looking into including a comparison for points/game? That’s a pretty valid measure of how a team is performing too. Even more important than yards/game. When you look at points scored and given up, the Lions are doing better than the yardage figures indicate.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Nov 11, 2011 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe some red zone statistics as well

Don’t mean shit if you can’t score

We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne

by detpistons3 on Nov 12, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think you want to make it too complicated.

Simscity is doing us a service with this analysis. But points/game is easily figured out, and it is relevant.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Nov 12, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong I love the series

But maybe a mention about how teams do in the redzone, personally I think it’s one of the most important stats of the game

We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne

by detpistons3 on Nov 13, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Great work!

I actually don’t think this will be a low scoring affair. The one thing that the Bears have quietly been doing since the Detroit game is scoring points with their offense. Lovie’s past teams use to have to depend on the Defense and Hester to score to be effective but not lately.
 
You’re seeing a MVP type performance from Forte and actually seeing is the benefits of the Cutler trade starting to bear fruit. You’re right, he is quietly having a good year and I expect it to continue. I got the Bears winning 31-13. I think it will be a blowout.

Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!

by Dils on Nov 11, 2011 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

Gee

You wouldn’t be a bears fan by chance would ya? :))

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by Justan Oldfart on Nov 11, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not unusual for a game between two good Ds to be high scoring.

I would just say that Forte can have an above average game and the Bears could still lose.
Forte didn’t win the game for them in week 5, and a good game from Forte won’t guarantee a win this week either.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Nov 11, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right it won't

I believe the key will be what the Lions run offense can do against the Bears defense. I think Megatron will get his and Stafford will make some plays but Detroit’s biggest issue in this game and the rest of the season will be how it handles games in which the big plays aren’t there. Best made those big games to close out the first game. We’ll see if that can be duplicated in this one.

Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!

by Dils on Nov 11, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

*Best made those big runs

Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!

by Dils on Nov 11, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Best may be the guy who gets the big plays

but Morris and K Williams are more work-a-day backs. The past 3 games they’ve been able to make more of those 4-8 yard runs that keep the ball moving forward, and they don’t get many negative yard runs. It’s a very different game when they’re in. Not as many 3rd and long plays.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Nov 11, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Laughable.

No one will be blowing this team out this year. Not with this defense. Period. You’re going to see the Lions continue with their second win streak this year, it’s going to be clinic time Sunday at 4. Cutler will get sacked 6 times.

by LionsD on Nov 11, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The Lions have 24 sacks this year.

The Vikings have 24 sacks this year. The Eagles have 22 sacks this year. The Lions held up pretty good against them. Your boys could get a few sacks, but six? When you only got three last matchup?

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

...Typing fail.

The BEARS* held up pretty good against them.

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm saying the Lions are on another winning streak

and the level of play they established against Denver will continue. Cliff Avril is on a major tear, everyone is getting to the QB and it’s not going to matter if the Bears offense is playing better. Our defense will play its best game Sunday. National spotlight, playoff implications, this team will respond.
Do you really want to think about Stafford and your secondary again? You guys sign a Transformer to cover Megatron? Chicago is going to get torn up on Sunday, the Schwartz will drop the hammer.

by LionsD on Nov 11, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The "level of play established"

on a team led by Tim Tebow on offense and that refuses to play defense?

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i support this logic.

a rec for your efforts, good sir.

by freywagg on Nov 11, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Well take it from a lifelong fan of a team that's known for defense...

A top 3 defense doesn’t get run on like you guys have. And let’s be even more honest..you guys haven’t exactly played the cream of the crop in terms of top offenses and QBs. Then when you do, you have the darndest time dealing with them. Matt Ryan? Jay Cutler? They both did the job against this vaunted Lions defense.

Hell you guys haven’t even played Aaron Rodgers and Cam Newton yet so I would save all the cockiness about your defense. Do you guys get after the QB? Sure you do. But you’re not winning a Championship without being able to stop the run and no front 4 worth a damn gets run on the way Suh and the bunch have. There’s no excuse for that. You guys still got a ways to go.

Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!

by Dils on Nov 12, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

And...

Football Outisders has us as the 3rd ranked defense, Advanced NFL Stats has us as the 1st ranked defense; hell, even in Fantasy Football, Detroit’s defense is at or near the top.

Looks like a duck, smells like a duck, but it’s not a duck I suppose?

And what the hell do you mean Matt Ryan did the job against us? Bad quarterback play must be skewing your perspective; Matt Ryan wasn’t very good against us at all.

But you’re right, no front 4 worth a damn gets run on the way Suh and the bunch have. That’s why teams have been able to consistently grind it out on the ground, chew up clock, convert, break through for third-and-short and fourth-and-short, right? Oh, you mean they haven’t? That’s what I thought.

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by Mavyrk on Nov 12, 2011 3:35 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You can't chew up clock when you are trailing

The lions offense has gotten out to early leads and others have to throw so nice job in turning those teams one dimensional. And then you the cowpokes and Vikings who choked away their victories.

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

False

“The lions offense has gotten out to early leads”.

That is 100% false. The Lions have trailed at halftime in the majority of their games. Their defense has allowed them to get back into games and was key in both of their 20+ point comebacks.

by simscity on Nov 12, 2011 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

half

YYour wins were blowouts weren’t they?

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Matt Ryan got hurt, came back

and still made huge passes that aided his team to victory. And you can quote Football Outsiders or whoever you want, those stats aren’t accounting for who you’re playing against. Tim Tebow? McNabb?Alex Smith? Matt Cassel? Josh Freeman to a certain degree, Romo, Cutler, and an injured Ryan got the job done.

Now let’s look at what the Bears have faced…Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Aaron Rogers, Cam Newton, your own Matt Stafford, Josh Freeman and Michael Vick and McNabb. And here we stand in a position to have the same record this Sunday as you guys. Again, your defense got a ways to go.

Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!

by Dils on Nov 12, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude
Cutler got the job done.

 No he didn’t. Detroit beat you on Monday Night Football. Urlacher was dressing down Briggs on the sideline. The Bears were manic that game and they fell apart. Stop coming in here fronting.

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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.

by Skylar on Nov 12, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Nah I think you're the one fronting

Cutler has gotten it done every time he’s played you. Check the stats and then let me know who’s fronting.

Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!

by Dils on Nov 12, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

You know....

if anyone of us came over to WCG and talked like this we’d get banned. Just sayin’….. so stay classy.

And “getting it done” means winning… which Cutler DID NOT DO. Did he? Huh? What’s that? Oh, he lost? Hm.

He better continue to be able to make plays running for his freaking life, because if the Lions catch him, he may not live this time.

by DrewsLions on Nov 12, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

nahh

Dlions4eva and nobody special are there all the time and are alive and kicking..

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 9:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Banned once already.

For just sticking up for my own point of view and not cursing or namecalling, etc. Been an SBNation member since 2008 and never been even warned before.

by DrewsLions on Nov 12, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that's not right then

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by tfrabotta on Nov 13, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Stay classy??

Oh give it a rest. Follow the thread up and you’ll find that I’ve been nothing but classy.

Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!

by Dils on Nov 13, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Getting it done means winning.

2011 is the topic at hand, son.

Cutler led you to a loss. Detroit’s biggest game in a long time.

Detroit beat Chicago.

You’re bullshitting.

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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.

by Skylar on Nov 12, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Those stats aren't accounting for who you're playing against?

What? Football Outsiders very much does account for who you’re playing against.

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by Mavyrk on Nov 12, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

How can they be a top three defense when they get run all over??

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

It's all about the points given up, not the yards.

Denver and KC got lots of run yards, but they were way behind. Who cares if they grind out yards on the ground when they’re down by 4 TDs? They didn’t have QBs who could bring them back from a big deficit. One can ask whether the Bears do, too.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Nov 12, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I love how the illustrious Steven Schweickert....

disappears after this comment. Logic defeats hogwash every time. Well-played, Mav.

by DrewsLions on Nov 12, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope.

Just love how it’s “Well they weren’t us.”

Despite all three having better rushing defenses than the Lions and two having about equivalent pass rushes.

Meanwhile, Detroit gets beaten twice and whoops up on an awful Denver team, and it’s back to business as usual?

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 12, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Business as usual for the 2011 Lions means...

beating the Bears. So, uh… yeah… business as usual!

by DrewsLions on Nov 12, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Since when is "getting beat twice" (out of eight games) anything but business as usual?

2 losses on the year. Get the fuck outta here with that nonsense.

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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.

by Skylar on Nov 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahem...Denver..

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok we'll see.

Keep in mind that this isn’t the same offense you faced the first time. Culter won’t be going back 7 steps with an empty back field do your DEs can just meet him in the backfield.

Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!

by Dils on Nov 11, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Every team changes during the season

Offence and defence. Everyone makes adjustments.

13-3

by StaffordSuperBowlMVP on Nov 11, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Man I knew some jerkwater Bears fan would come in here spewing some bullshit

Blowout? Don’t like Derrick Rose? What sort of barbiturates have you been taking good sir

GTFO

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by Skylar on Nov 12, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Bears

All I hear is the Bears D shut the Lions down except for those two runs by Best. For one neither of those runs went for touchdowns and two one of them was during garbage time. Your offense was the one inept, if 24 points is what is considered shutting down then by all means show us again.

by Lionsfan012 on Nov 11, 2011 8:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

nitpicking

but Best did break out a long TD run in that game.

by simscity on Nov 11, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

how can there be garbage time

In an 11 pt game??

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 9:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Great job as usual Mr. City

I really don’t think we are playing a different Bears team than what we previously saw, Martz is doing his best to keep this offense more balanced so we’ll see more run plays with Cutler still utilizing the 5 and 7 step drops, but throwing quick passes. A healthy Earl Bennett and a deadly target in his own right in Forte and the passing games suddenly looks explosive.

This is the same team and the Lions will prove they too are the same team.The Bears have played well against .500 or worse teams, but this is the next toughest challenge for the Bears since the last time we played them and we know how that ended.

So, I think that this won’t be the same embarrassing loss for the Bears like it was in Detroit, but I don’t think that the Chicago offensive line is as good as they’ve looked, quite honestly. I know they played against a good d-line in Philly, but their back-7 is dreadful. We had a great d-line last year, but a weak back-7 and finished 6-10. Philly too will probably finish around that.

 I think the Detroit defense will be the difference in this game. They will limit Forte to average or a little below average numbers and will get to Cutler. He’s confident that it was just the crowd noise that affected the Bears o-line, but he will find out Sunday that the Lions d-line doesn’t need crowd noise to help them. They are good all by themselves.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Nov 12, 2011 2:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Of course we did kick the he'll out of the Falcons

Who handled your team…

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Im going to "borrow" the Bears fans argument of

I’m pretty sure the team you beat and the one that beat us isn’t even the same team.

See, I can do it too! Its easy to do once you get the hang of it!

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Nov 12, 2011 12:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

exactly

See you tomorrow.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 12:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Different loin with Louis at tackle vs. Omiyale

He beat the he’ll out of baboon Monday night who is one of the leagues sack leaders.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

"Oline"

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Is this some kind of Chicago dialect?
He beat the he’ll out of baboon Monday night who is one of the leagues sack leaders.

Eh?

My 2011 Lions season prediction: 12 wins and 4 losses. I made this prediction the week after the New England preseason game. It's looking slightly optimistic right now.

by NorthLeft12 on Nov 12, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

babin equals baboon

After he whined about getting beat up all night.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 12:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That entire Eagles defense played awful

I’m not impressed with a win over a 3-5 team that you guys always beat. Its like you guys being impressed over us beating the Redskins. The 3 teams the Bears beat which were all .500 or less would be beaten by Detroit as well. I’m sorry but beat us and Ill give the o-line props then.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Nov 12, 2011 12:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

right

Just as i’m not impressed with victories over chiefs, broncos etc. Luckily, for the lions the bikes and cowboys giftwrapped a win for you or you’d be 4-4. It will fun with the tough part of your schedule coming up.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

vikes

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I dont think the Vikes or Cowboys giftwrapped anything

Since I’m sure you didn’t see those games, the Lions battled back in the Vikings game offensively and the Cowboys defensively. Without the defense shutting the Viking offense down, we wouldn’t have been able to come back from a 20 point deficit. Without the Stafford and Johnson connection, the two pick-6’s wouldn’t have mattered because we wouldn’t have been able to come back from 24 points on the road like that.

I don’t think the second half of our schedule is any harder than the first. We had some tough games that we won, a couple blowouts, and a couple losses, but playing the Bears twice, Falcons and 49ers, and. Minnesota and Dallas on the road wasn’t easy. I don’t think any game in the NFL nowdays is an easy one, except maybe the Colts w/o Manning, but the first half wasn’t much easier than the second will be in my opinion.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Nov 12, 2011 3:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That kool aid must be delicious

If the vikings get a first down in that situation the game was over. But the moron coach decides to go away from AP and blows it. And if Dallas doesn’t foolishly throw the ball around with a big ad then it is done deal.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

No kool-aid needed

You Bear fans sure like to discredit our wins, but 1 of those 6 came against your Bears in a convincing fashion. So discredit that game and proclaim that the Bears are a different team, but you know better than that. The Bears are still who we thought they were, just had a nice win streak and it blinds you Bears fans into not seeing what everybody else sees. They are the same team as Detroit too is the same team.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Nov 12, 2011 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

if

You think the bears are the same team as the first time then you haven’t been paying attention. The lions certainly are the same team as the first time, the bears are better in scene and on the opine. We shall see to.arrow if that is enough.

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 9:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And if we made 1 or 2 more plays versus Atlanta or SF we would be 8-0.

The logic goes both ways bud. These are pretty evenly match teams, the game will again be decided by one or two key plays. We have lots of flaws but luckily some huge strengths.

Can’t wait till sunday already…

by Chandra on Nov 12, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You are not impressed by wins over Denver and KC.... that makes sense.

That’s why to show a little “extra effort” we didn’t just beat them. To prove that we are not just any team, we slaughtered them 48-10 and 45-3…. just for you ass-backwards logic Bears’ fans. We knew this would be your idiotic, short-sighted argument, so we decided to prove that we could beat bad teams badly.

I know that it takes you a lot more to beat lesser teams… and that stings.

by DrewsLions on Nov 12, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

actually those were slam dunk wins

And you guys took care of business. I guess I will be convinced when they put up a good performance against a good team. Win tomorrow and I am convinced as the bears are gelling right now.

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Nov 12, 2011 9:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Trust me

Neither the Bears or Packers fans respect the Lions. I guess our history kinda makes it hard for them to look past all the losing seasons to see that we have a good team, but that’s fine if they do not want to respect Detroit. If the Lions go into Soldier Field and win again, the Bears fans will point to the fact that they lost to a “good team” just like last time they were talking shit and got handled.

Same with the Packera fans, they roll out of Ford Field with that first loss then they will say that we got lucky or its the crowd noise or something. There is no getting through to those Packers fans.

Viking fans have always been cool in my mind. I think they with the Lions fans have the coolest fanbase mostly because we have been the least successful of the 4 teams since the start of the NFC North division in 02’.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Nov 12, 2011 12:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Detroit 27, Chicago 13

Chicago is coming off an emotional MNF win and Detroit is coming off a bye week. Plus, Detroit is playing better on the road than at home. I think Detroit comes in with aggression and just beats the crap out of Chicago.

Yes, I really am that great.

by atvman on Nov 12, 2011 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

THE ONLY STREAK THE BEARS AND THER FANS HAVE IS IN THERE SHORTS

Da bears are going to lose because the lions need it more want it more and will get the win for that BS call that was a catch for a touchdown !!!! even the bears fans i was watching the game with said it was a BS call

by DETROIT DINO on Nov 13, 2011 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

way to bring up last year man! Looks like you need to stop watching reruns and focus on the now.

Whats obvious is that Bears fans are Bears fans and Lions fans are Lions fans. Both sides will talk crap and let the better team win.

How about a Carimi pancake for your A$$

by fortefan09 on Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Living in the past means staying in the past...

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Nov 13, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

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