On Paper: Detroit Lions Vs. Carolina Panthers
Last week, the Carolina Panthers struggled to do anything right. They lost the turnover battle, they gave up a special teams touchdown, they were sacked five times and failed to score a touchdown. Over in Chicago, the Lions did not fare any better. Detroit lost six turnovers, also gave up a special teams touchdown, and only scored a touchdown when the game was theoretically over, on their way to a 37-13 shellacking. Both teams are obviously looking to rebound in a big way. Carolina needs a win to keep the Cam Newton Optimism Train on the tracks. Detroit needs a win to keep playoff hopes alive and well. The Lions are seven-point favorites at home, but I can't help but feel a little weary after last week's game. Let's go to the charts.
Lions Pass Offense (9th) vs. Panthers Pass Defense (14th)No way to sugarcoat it, Matthew Stafford had an absolutely terrible outing in Chicago. He put up a ton of yards, but he also attempted a franchise-record 63 passes. It was only the third time this season Stafford did not exceed the defense's average passer rating allowed. Jim Schwartz tried to do damage control last week by blaming the wind, but many are worried that Stafford's broken finger may be the culprit in Stafford's woes. Sunday will likely reveal what the true problem is. Obviously, there will be no wind in Ford Field, so if Stafford's struggles continue, there is something else going on.
The chart tells us that this Panthers pass defense is just below average. They've only held three opponents below their passing yards average and they've held four opponents below their passer rating average. However, that includes holding Aaron Rodgers to a rating of 119.9 and Drew Brees to 100.1; not exactly spectacular outings by the defense. Digger deeper into the statistical world reveals a pass defense that is pretty non-threatening. They Panthers rank 28th in passer rating allowed, 30th in yards per attempt allowed and have only tallied 17 sacks in nine games (26th). This is a perfect opportunity for Stafford to bounce back. Lions +2.
Lions Run Offense (27th) vs. Panthers Run Defense (28th)
The Lions couldn't keep their upward trend in the running game going last week. However, this was likely due to falling behind by 20 points in the first half. Jahvid Best continues to be MIA with his concussion and will likely be unavailable until after Thanksgiving. While the Lions have capable backups, the problems in the running game run much deeper than the men in the backfield.
Here's the good news: the Panthers cannot stop the run. They've yet to hold an opponent under 90 yards. They've only held two opponents under averages in both yardage and yards per carry. They are giving up 4.7 a carry, which ties them for 25th in the league. They are not good. I don't expect the Lions to run all over them, but I do expect them to be just effective enough to make the play-action a plausible threat. Lions +1.
Panthers Pass Offense (8th) vs. Lions Pass Defense (4th)
Cam Newton has been continuing a very successful rookie season ever since he made a splash in the first two weeks of the season. Though his yardage has gone way down, he continues to perform at an above average level. The Panthers are 13th in passer rating, seventh in yards per attempt and have allowed 22 sacks (T-17th). The Panthers have thrown 10 interceptions, however, which is 20th in the league. So the Lions will have an opportunity to force some turnovers on Sunday.
It bears repeating that the Lions have yet to face a great passing offense this season. They've only faced one team averaging more than 250 yards a game and only two teams with a passer rating above 85. That fact aside, the Lions are continuing to hold opponents to numbers typically lower than their averages. Only a third of their opponents successfully reached their passer rating averages against the Lions, and none have since the Monday night game. All the other statistics continue to impress: fourth in passer rating allowed, seventh in sacks, first in yards per attempt. The only statistic the Lions pass defense looks average in is completion percentage, where they sit exactly in the middle at 16th.
This should be an excellent matchup between two above average units. The key will be for the Lions defensive line to make sure Newton isn't allowed to extend the play with his feet. This will be Detroit's biggest test through the air since the Cowboys game, when they were burned for 331 passing yards. They will fare better this week, but Carolina should have mild success. Draw.
Panthers Run Offense (8th) vs. Lions Run Defense (27th)
Yikes. The Panthers have been dominating their opponents on the ground since Week 4. Of course, a lot of this is due to Newton's mobility, but this is still very impressive. And the Panthers also still have DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart, who have combined for 748 yards on 158 carries (4.7 a carry). Newton is averaging 5.3 a carry and has a whopping seven rush touchdowns (only LeSean McCoy and Adrian Peterson have more). In other words, when the Panthers get into the red zone, the Lions will need a spy on Newton.
Every week, I seem to stumble upon an article attempting to defend the Lions run defense. Typically, I have been giving the articles little credit, as the point always seemed to be "if you take away all of the bad runs, they're actually good!" However, this week, the people over at Smart Football offered a different argument in favor of the Lions run defense. According to the article, the Lions are giving up a "successful" run at the fourth lowest rate in the league. You can read the article here for the specifics on what is defined as a successful run, but what it basically boils down to is: at least four yards on first down, half of the remaining yards to go on second down and a first down or touchdown on third down. Of course, the importance of giving up a lot of explosion plays on the ground cannot be ignored. The Lions have given up ten rushes of over 20 yards (T-fifth most) and five rushes of 40+ yards (most in the league).
In the Lions' nine games, they have faced eight opponents with a rushing offense ranked in the top 12. This week, they face another tough challenge. The key, as it has been all season, will be preventing the long run. I think the Panthers get at least one big play from Newton, but I think, otherwise, the Lions will hold the Panthers close to their 127 yards per game average. Panthers +1.
Overall
The Lions end up with a mild +2 advantage. This may come as a surprise to many predicting a huge blowout in favor of the Lions. But we must remember that although the Panthers are 2-7, they were within a score against the Packers, Bears and Saints. The Lions clearly have the better team, but the Panthers have proven that they can hang with the best of the NFC. I'll take the Lions in a close, but comfortable game. Lions 27, Panthers 20.
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always enjoy these
thanks for the breakdown…I’d love a nice easy blowout and low blood pressure, but I have a feeling your prediction will be pretty accurate.
by Suhper Megatron on Nov 18, 2011 3:58 PM EST reply actions
I have
immense respect for the balls that Newton has shown, he has proved he belongs in the NFL and that he can work under pressure. It is true that this is difficult to see due to his stats being marred by more “L’s” than “W’s”, but on the whole he is a legit QB and he scares me a bit.
It seems he has grasped the “run n gun” method faster than Tebow, and we were able to contain him a decent amount. This will be a tough, hard fought test for us and also absolutely critical for us to come out on top and continue our playoff hunt.
oh and of course #fuckarksanchez
by Usman 'Uzi' Altafullah on Nov 18, 2011 4:02 PM EST reply actions
woops!
meant #fuckmarksanchez
I’m new at that!
by Usman 'Uzi' Altafullah on Nov 18, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Although I still believe Newton is a better NFL QB than Tebow
He’s capable of being a pocket QB because of his height and strength. His arm strength actually isn’t that bad.
President of the Tony Scheffler Fan Club
is a MUCH better NFL QB than Tebow is what I meant to say
Obviously he’s the better QB right now.
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run the dam ball
We should get some practice in before the packers game. Time of possession! !!
by msivits on Nov 18, 2011 4:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah I hope they do this week
It would be nice to get ahead early and run the ball in the second half, they sure seem timid about handing the ball off to Morris, the guy has shown he can fall forward for 4 yards on the bad plays and he has some burst still to get through some holes. Use him. I don’t get the coaches reasoning.
The question of the Lions' run defense is not that simple.
First, giving up lots of run yards to the Chiefs and Broncos didn’t hurt at all, because we blew out those teams anyway.
Second, giving up big runs to SF and ATL obviously did hurt, but those were tough games that could have gone either way.
And third, Matt Forte did not beat the Lions in either game played against the Bears. Anytime you can nullify a team’s main threat is always a plus. The run defense did not lose the game last week.
No slogans. Just win!!!
Pardon me for lobbying once more for including a comparison of points/game to this analysis.
Points scored and points given up is always more important than yardage.
No slogans. Just win!!!
Wouldn't it be skewed a bit...
if you include two pick sixes? The “defense” (which is really the offense) didn’t give up those 12 points but that would be reflected in points per game, no?
by LionGuy016 on Nov 18, 2011 10:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, but giving up two pick-sixes is a pretty rare event.
Despite the last game, the Lions are still ahead of the Bears in points given up, right?
No slogans. Just win!!!
True
But I just think there are a lot of mitigating circumstances that can lead to points that are not directly correlated with offensive and defensive play (i.e. special teams touchdowns and turnovers). I think sims is looking strictly at offensive and defensive numbers because it keeps the article focused and (for better or worse, limited). I’m sure there’s a more comprehensive way of looking at the game but then sims would have to hire a team of researchers.
Either way, great article. I always enjoy these. Here’s hoping to a convincing Lions victory! No love for the glove, but Stafford MUST get it done on Sunday.
by LionGuy016 on Nov 19, 2011 7:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
always appreciate the comments and suggestions
The reason I haven’t included points as a statistic is because, in my opinion, yardage and the other stats I use have more predicting power. As mentioned by LionGuy, there are a lot of mitigating factors surrounding the final score (which is why I never bet on the O/U or the lines of games. Actually, I’ve only placed one Lions bet ever……last week.). Yardage is usually a pretty good sign of how well each team is doing (especially yards per carry and yards per attempt).
However, I am open to opposing opinions on this. If enough people think that adding points per game would benefit this article, I’d gladly do it.
I would argue that yards gained or given up is just as misleading as points.
Item 1: The 2010 San Diego Chargers had the #1 offense and #1 ranked defense, yet finished with a sorry 9-7 record and missed the playoffs. Most likely reason was their extremely awful special teams play.
Item 2: The Chicago Bears. The Bears typically have a mediocre-looking offense, but they benefit from the best starting field position in the NFL, again because of special teams play, and they also tend to benefit from generating turnovers.
Item 3: garbage time or furious attempts to come from behind skew yardage numbers in favor of the losing team, especially on passing (or rushing in Tebowlandia).
I realize you’re using a differential analysis, which is better than just comparing straight-up yards. Anyway, I just thought it would be interesting to see if adding scores helped the team comparisons, without making it too complicated.
No slogans. Just win!!!
The Lions need to win
This maybe the only team we can beat on our schedule. Even this game isn’t a give me. We may lose this game too.
by motownBeggar on Nov 19, 2011 7:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Thanks for this
Look forward to reading your article every week. Just wanted to say thanks for the great analysis!
by DetroitDonovan on Nov 20, 2011 12:20 PM EST reply actions

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