Verbatim: Ndamukong Suh
Suh speaks on his ejection.
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Just for reference..
the clip of his stomp should be shown whenever he talks about it:
He’s in lala land if he thinks anyone could believe he was being held in place or didn’t mean to stomp down forcefully.
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I suggest you guys watch the video of the whole play instead of just the gif:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/11/24/2585062/ndamukong-suh-ejected-video-packers-lions/in/2349224
It at least gives a context as to why Suh did that.I’m not saying it was justified but Suh wasn’t the initiator
Judging by that video
If Suh wasn’t the initiator, gravity must’ve been. Dietrich-Smith was tangled up as much as anyone else there.
Packers? Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks? Taking care of business as usual.
Brewers, Badgers? THIS IS WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.
I don't think anyone is questioning whether he was the sole instigator
But there is absolutely no excuse for his reaction. Just none. He’s a professional.
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There are several Pack fans posting exactly that
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Yeah....
the stomp was definitely in frustration. It looks to me like it could have been either way but I’m leaning to him stomping on the guy. Nasty play, uncalled for and hey whatever. It’s over, lets see what the NFL does and hope he doesn’t get removed from a few games. He should probably get a 2 game suspension though. Sucks to be without him for those games. In Minnesota whatever. New Orleans he’s going to be missed.
My name is Suh! How do you do?! Now You GONNA DIE!
Whatever suspension he gets he deserves.
Schwartz needs to get this team under control.
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by Eddie Apoc on Nov 24, 2011 5:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He needed to get this stuff under control last preseason.
He has done nothing but enable Suh’s actions to this point.
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by joshsun on Nov 24, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
and that enabling. along with his own childish actions, post SF game for instance,
seems to have spread to the rest of the team.
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by joshsun on Nov 24, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I agree 100%
This team has too much talent to play and lose the way we have been. Those kind of penalties are inexcusable. Now we are most likely going to have to play multiple games without our best Defensive Tackle.
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You know I agree with you of course.
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by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 7:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Happy turkey day to you too brother
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Couldn't agree more.
I like JS and all but I think you’re spot on.
The thing that bothers me more than anything though is how he punished Gos for a stupid penalty, but he seems incapable of doing that with anyone else.
easier because gos sucks
but this team needs discipline, hopefully JS knows a way to get it done so that we can be a real contender next year
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I was gonna say, don't try to equate Cherilus to Suh
but from the penalties to the stomping or whatever happened.. the fights @Soldier even. Get your shit straight.
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Definitely agree there
But that’s what makes me mad. It was like a fake show of discipline what he did to Gos. He basically said I’m willing to bench an average player for his stupid penalties, but I’m not willing to do it with my better players. It just sends a really bad message I think.
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Suh is a liar and idiot
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by rames on Nov 24, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I hate to agree with you on this, but I do
I lost a lot of respect seeing it happen. Now that I hear the lies afterwards rather than just man up I resent him even more.
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Stupid behaviour
He deserves a short suspension
by RomanLion on Nov 24, 2011 5:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
the stomp
it reminded me of some one we all know and i wont say his name
has joshsun made the haynesworth-schwartz connection yet
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
nope
and I have no intention of doing so.
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by joshsun on Nov 24, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I want to be a fan of Suh
I really, really do. But he’s dreaming if he thinks he’s fooling anyone anymore. Not even me.
Your character comes through in your actions. He said he wouldn’t hold out, then he did. He has continually defended himself, saying he isn’t dirty….but continually, at the very least, his temper or antics have been a detriment to the team (this year more than last).
It’s more than just Suh too. The team needs to grow up and focus on what’s IMPORTANT. These overreactions and ridiculous penalties are showing the world that we don’t belong in the playoffs yet. I hate saying that.
Today has not been great. The Lions game…..Nickelback….and now Enrique Iglesias is on.
USE THE SCHWARTZ!!!
Sounds like he's just brushing it off, trying to minimize what happened.
I think after the reckoning with Schwartz, his tone will change. He just got humiliated and ejected from a big game with a giant audience. His pride is where these comments are stemming from.
I wouldn’t be embarrassed to say this team isn’t worthy of greatness- you gotta make a game of it, and they didn’t. Suh conducted himself poorly. Schwartz let those dudes play with showing any real discipline. They deserved the loss. I feel sorry for the people who paid money to sit through it in Detroit.
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i really wouldnt be suprised if
The NFL makes an example out of him. You are a professional football player, not a WWE meathead.
by yamahawarrior89 on Nov 24, 2011 6:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Calling out the Commish a couple weeks ago won't help his current situation, either.
Packers? Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks? Taking care of business as usual.
Brewers, Badgers? THIS IS WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.
So our number one problem this season?
Turnovers? No.
Running game? Nope
Special teams? Negative
Defensive discipline and self control? Ding ding ding!
Our defense cost is this game today. Turnovers and injuries didn’t help but count the penaltys and drives kept alive in this game and the entire season. Just rediculous. Without Suhs penalty it’s a field goal for Detroit and a two possession game.
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Nov 24, 2011 6:09 PM EST reply actions
*field goal for green bay
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by awayfromthepride on Nov 24, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Our defense is pretty much the only reason we have a winning record
Stafford and the offense have been dropping the ball (figuratively and literally) for the last 6 games or so
by Kalzilla on Nov 24, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yeah,
What would Earl Boykins do?
by FMFDOC8404 on Nov 24, 2011 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought it was the offensive penalties early in the game that were really killing us.
What would Earl Boykins do?
by FMFDOC8404 on Nov 24, 2011 9:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Right? The defense slowed down the best offense in the NFL even more than I thought they would
Our offense just kept shooting themselves in the foot. Seriously, 0 points until the 4th quarter against an average-at-best defense? Our running game looked pretty damn solid so we can no longer use that as an excuse.
This.
Though the running game took a big hit when we lost Smith.
It's just so damn frustrating having a streaky quarterback
I find myself constantly hoping during games that Staff will flip the switch in his brain and go into full murder/rape/pillage mode like he did against the Panthers. I think it’s Latif that points out that Stafford never struggles with another team’s defense. You never see him looking like a confused lost puppy like Tom Brady was against us in the preseason. He is the only thing that’s beating himself so it makes some of these losses twice as painful.
I know what you mean.
Like JCruize said though, he’s 23. If this is his ceiling I am not happy. Fortunately, I expect he will continue to improve over the next few years.
QBs tend to have the game figured out pretty well by their 5th year.
i agree with you
hopefully it can be corrected in the offseason
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Defensive discipline was the #1 problem THIS game.
The defense has been the strength over the course of the season.
If the 2nd half had gone like the first and we’d lost 14-0 I would say you’re wrong.
The offense cost us the first half. Suh getting thrown out was where the wheels came off. Bottom line, the Defense was the bigger problem this game (though the offense did its part to earn this loss).
I fucking hate how all of a sudden
All of you guys are hating on our Probowl superstar defensive tackle. He has a winner mentality like no other and I like him for that. He’s always been a physical player,l everyones just overreating on this topic.
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It's not hating on him
He cost his team today. Plain and simple.
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by Sean Yuille on Nov 24, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lets be honest here
Sure, his ejection was really the final straw but I feel the game was lost prior to that. I believe him and I will remain loyal to the best DT in the league.
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go ahead and stay loyal to Suh
I will stay loyal to the Detroit Lions. Suh’s play cost the Lions a lot today.
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by JCruize on Nov 24, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I am a Lions fan and always will be
Who puts on the uniform matters not to me as long as they represent my team, State and fanbase with passion, effort and dignity.
Today’s incident with Suh was not just a failure by him. It was a failure for every coach on the team that defended him while he was dancing on the line of fair and not fair from his first incident with Dellhome to today.
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by joshsun on Nov 24, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
dignity? you say dignity? and yet defend what he did today
or try to pawn off the blame on anyone else? no sir, no way. Suh was the one who saw red and did this and he should be man enough to own it. There was nothing dignified what Suh did today and he didn’t represent anyone well at all. Don’t sugar coat it or you’re enabling like you’re saying the coaches did.
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I would like to add
that your dislike of Schwartz influenced this position of yours beyond reason.
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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I am not entirely sure where you got the impression
that I was trying to divert blame from Suh. That is flat out untrue but I am not going to let Schwartz off the hook either.
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I think he cost the team too. The loss isn't entirely on Suh, but you can't do that.
The rules are different for him- they were before and sure as hell are now.
Nobody on the team deserved the W today, really. Stafford threw like shit. He didn’t lead. Burleson dropped balls. Hanson missed an easy kick. Schwartz, Cunningham, and Linehan couldn’t adjust on the fly.
Pinning it on Suh is weak.. I’m loyal to him, but a guy got tossed 30 minutes before he did- that was a clear warning. You need to be rational. He acted really irrational today.
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I agree that it's not reasonable to try and pin this loss on Suh
there’s no doubt it was a turning point but there as plenty else going on.
What’s wrong with what Suh did has nothing to do with a win or a loss, it has to do with his character and the character is portrays on the team.
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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couple point to be made here
1) he did not just cost his team today, he more than likely cost his team for the next 4 or 5 games. he will be suspended. If it is only 2 games, I will be stunned.
2) A lot of people lost respect for Suh when he held out. Then more people did the same when he tried to bottle cap that one QB. And more when he tried to do it AGAIN. Now we have today. Blatantly dirty and disrespectful to his entire team and fans.
If this was an isolated incident, things would be different. It is not and so things are not.
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Huh?
2) A lot of people lost respect for Suh when he held out. Then more people did the same when he tried to bottle cap that one QB. And more when he tried to do it AGAIN. Now we have today. Blatantly dirty and disrespectful to his entire team and fans.
The draft holdout has zero to to do with today. He gets fined every couple games for playing dirty/physical depending on how you look at it. Holding out for money means alot less now that he’s leading the league in fines. The draft holdout is old news, and you just come off as trying to pile on the guy when you dredge up stuff like that, man.
And ripping QB helmets up like weeds? How the hell’s that disrespectful to me as a fan? If anything, It’s disrespectful to the other team’s QB, but tough shit. This is the NFL in 2011.
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The draft holdout is old news
It is the start of him not holding true to his word. Just like he said he was not a dirty player. How did that turn out too? Oh yeah.
How the hell’s that disrespectful to me as a fan?
When he is sitting on the sideline suspended for his actions, that is disrespecting his fans.
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What he did there
Ruined every ounce of credibility he had. Until then, I believed him. But now, he seems to be a cheap shot artist. Down two notches to a talented, not so intelligent player in my book. Sad.
by Dave Marshall on Nov 24, 2011 10:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Suh is playing stupid
If he truly didn’t want to be known as a dirty player he wouldn’t do stupid shit like this… He’s not only hurting his bank account he’s hurting the team. Yall had all the potential to beat the Packers and stupid mistakes like this ruined it for yall. Sorry if I offended any Lion fans just thought I would throw my 2 cents in this
by rscott94 on Nov 24, 2011 6:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Nothing you just wrote is offensive, or infactual.
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Indefensible
Forget football. Your mom would tell you not to stomp on other people. someone needs a time out.
by big smoove on Nov 24, 2011 6:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
I wish I wouldn't have read this...
I can’t believe the lies coming out of this man’s mouth. He was not being “held down”. He was clearly trying to slam that guy’s head into the turf, and he clearly intentionally stomped the guy when he was getting up. He has convoluted a story that he must believe in his own mind, otherwise how could he speak these lies with a good conscience? Unreal…
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Watch again.
He was indeed being held down.
Aside from that I agree with everything you just said.
His left arm is on the dude's helmet...slamming his head into the turf...
Then he stands up when he sees a Packer player coming at him. He gets shoved back, and then he blatantly stomps the downed player.
I still do not see where he was being held down at all…
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I watched it again...
And now I DO see where he was being held. Dietrich-Smith had basically tried to hip toss Suh, and his right arm WAS wrapped over top of Suh’s left shoulder. However, the fact still remains that Suh over reacted. There was no call for slamming Dietrich-Smith’s head into the turf, or for the intentional stop he delivered after the fact.
His entire speech was a lie, outside of the fact that he was being held down. I stand corrected on that point.
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Like I said.
I agree with you on everything you wrote except for that he wasn’t held down.
he could have perceived he was being held down
things get tangled and stuff. might have expected to be held down, a better way to say it.
not defending him, i think he should be suspended.
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
^ stop = stomp
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Why would Smith WANT Suh to lay on top of him?
That is the flaw in your theory.
I know if I had a 300+ pound guy on me (and slamming my head into the ground) I would want him to get the hell off.
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by Chief Oshkosh on Nov 24, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Probably to try and goad him into a penalty. And it worked.
It’s not a theory, it happened. My DVR had the best angle, but here’s an OK one. Watch Smith’s arm. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/11/24/2585062/ndamukong-suh-ejected-video-packers-lions/in/2349224
I’m not defending Suh’s behavior at all. He deserved to be ejected. Just saying he was provoked.
I'm not trying to start something here...
But lets break this down…
What I see in that clip is EDS finishing his block and “pancaking” Suh. As the players get tangled up on the ground, EDS’ right arm gets caught around Suh. What you see as “holding onto Suh”, prior to the head slamming, is simply EDS not able to bring his arm to it’s “normal position”. It does not seem EDS has a strong grip on Suh at that point.
Maybe Smith really was holding onto Suh. But I still don’t see why him doing that prompted the stomp.
In fact after watching it again… 2 of the 3 head “slams” (for lack of a better word) came after EDS “let go”.
I say he gets a 2 game suspension and 100 mil fine.
When analyzing this, we really should have a bears fan or someone neutral give their take. Obviously we both have different sets of biased eyes :)
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by Chief Oshkosh on Nov 24, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
A Bears fan...really?
Just when I was starting to think you were reasonable. ;) How about a non-division rival with no skin in the game. Colts maybe?
Anyway, like I said, it’s not the best angle. I watched it several times on the DVR and Suh didn’t stand up until Smith finally let go. Then came the kick, which is indefensible btw.
Anyway, good game. Wish it hadn’t been so costly for us, but them’s the breaks. We’ll see you week 17.
Haha
I just figured a Bares fan would hate both teams, making this hypothetical fan the best moderator!
I’m just glad we made it out of that game with Rodgers in one piece!
Best of luck the rest of the way. I know you guys have what it takes.
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by Chief Oshkosh on Nov 24, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
One more point.
Not to beat a dead horse, but I just noticed if you look at the .gif at the start of these comments you can clearly see that Smith grabs Suh’s knee right as he finally stands up.
It shows he’s still trying to hinder and provoke him even at that point. Suh then turns and kicks that same arm that Smith grabbed his knee with. Again, it doesn’t justify what Suh did by any means but he’s clearly reacting to what Smith did rather than just kicking him cause he got beat on the play.
I know what you are talking about
But IMO that was nothing. Sure he may have brushed his knee while Suh was getting up (don’t see the grab you speak of), but I think that motion was more of a “dude you were just slamming my head into the ground, get off” motion.
It shows he’s still trying to hinder and provoke him even at that point
This is where we differ. You see EDS as someone who is purposely trying to get a reaction out of Suh, I see EDS as a guy caught in the middle of a scuffle.
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by Chief Oshkosh on Nov 24, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Dietrich was pushing Suh to the ground
And Suh managed to reverse it and get on top of him. Dietrich kept holding on to Suh even though Suh was on top and pushing his head. If Suh hadn’t fought back it probably would have resulted in a penalty on GB.
"Pushing Suh to the ground"
Aka a “Pancake”. One of the only stats an O lineman can get.
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by Chief Oshkosh on Nov 24, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Do you really not know what a pancake is?
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by Chief Oshkosh on Nov 24, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Do you really not know what a hold is?
I feel like freaking peewee herman right now. A pancake does not include holding the d lineman by the pads after he’s on the ground and the play is over.
we must be watching different plays
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by Chief Oshkosh on Nov 24, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Dude...it was more of a failed hip toss than a pancake
A pancake, by definition, is pushing a defender onto their BACK during a RUN block.
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Short of being held down and waterboarded there's no excusing the kick
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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He could have stood up whenever he wanted.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
A shrink said this about my sister a long time ago, and I believe it fits Mr. Suh.
He distorts reality to fit his perception of the truth.
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I'm proud of you guys....seriously
I turned the channel and didn’t finish watching the game. I don’t really want to be associated with play like that. Anything but stomping on a lying prone player, that sickens me.
by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 7:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yup
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by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 7:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You got banned from POD? I was wondering where the hell you'd been.
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yeah, me too
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LOL.....just for a few days, I deserved it I guess.
Messin with the GB fans. Funny thing is I wasn’t banned from their site.
by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 8:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I only go on the warpath when offbrand outta town fans come in here.
This is my home as a fan and if they don’t come in acting right, I wanna run their asses out. I rarely go to other SBlogs except to extend sympathy.
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It was too easy to get under their skin.
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by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 8:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I dunno why, 11-0, 2010 champs, constant media fellatio for Rodgers
They should be content
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Thats cuz you weren't acting like an ass on our site lol
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by Chief Oshkosh on Nov 24, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
There's a few good ones over there.
And accept my sincere apoligy for Suh’s actions today. It completely disgusts me and it sucked any enjoyment I had for the game right out of me.
by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 10:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Must have missed them...
No worries. I’m just glad when I came over here I saw the majority of posts were not condoning his actions. Obviously that man means a lot to your team and I hope he turns his actions and thoughts around.
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by Chief Oshkosh on Nov 24, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Me also.
It’s going to be an interesting week around the Detroit area. Listen to 97.1 at 200pm our time tomorrow.
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by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 10:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I might be in a black friday induced nap by that point lol
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by Chief Oshkosh on Nov 24, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
well
Welcome back man.
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I can't believe he did it
And I can’t believe that he didn’t just strait up appologize. He tried to defend himself. Bullshit. He deserves a 2-5 game suspension and a hefty fine. If he doesn’t get that, it’s sad. Dumb play.
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by Bighaircut on Nov 24, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He really needed to man up
exceptionally disappointing.
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I would've felt alot better about it if he was like "I was out of control and I'm really sorry".
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by Skylar on Nov 24, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One thing...
He’s trying to avoid a suspension. If he says yeah I stepped on him he gets one for sure so of course he says its an accident.
I think there’s not much point bc he’s getting one anyway. Hopefully when it comes he’ll do a mea culpa and give a more sincere apology.
by ziggyz on Nov 24, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This an excellent point.
Well said.
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Damn you for being level headed
Good point.
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Counter point
Do you really think playing the “innocent” card is going to change Goodell’s decision on the coming suspension in any way?
In my opinion, he would have helped himself, in respect to Goodell, most by saying “I let the emotion of the situation get the better of me and I am sorry to the NFL, my fans and my team.”
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by joshsun on Nov 24, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Also true.
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Doesn't matter what we think.
The reasoning is what Suh thinks, and it’s a valid scenario.
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It matters what Goodell thinks
And I can guarantee you, he is not going to buy Suh’s BS “innocent” speech.
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but it really isn't a valid scenario
only the most homer blinded fanboi could believe that garbage Suh put out there. I get the whole concept of “don’t cop to ’nothing” but I believe it’s bullshit and no way to live ones life. Then again that’s just my code of ethics and I can’t expect Suh or anyone else to follow it.
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Like I said dude, DET is eyeing a playoff run and he's trying to skate off a 2-4 game bid
fuck what we think, maybe the difference is Suh acting like he thought he was run in the right.
Valid Scenario at the NFL level. Maybe not. I can’t call it.That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
In fact
Playing the “innocent” card will probably prompt a harsher response from Goodell because it looks like he is in denial to his own actions.
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by joshsun on Nov 24, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Like I said.
He gets one anyway. I’ll leave it at that.
oh oops, you're exactly right josh
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cutlers helmet
was his freebee ereryone thought a fine was coming
if he had owned it he'd have likely reduced the penalty
by trying to lie his way out he’s not accepting any responsibility. From what we’ve seen of Goodall justice it’s going to draw a larger penalty.
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if ray lewis can come back after murdering two people
suh can recover from this
Vanden Bosch looks like a murderous hardcore biker
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hit
wnen he got the personal foul on rogers witch was not
the thing that sucked about that call
was that they correctly made a no call on the previous series when staff got popped
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
The inconsistency with the roughing the passer call makes NFL officiating infuriating. It’s week in and week out, every game, every play, they call it differently.
C-o-n-s-i-s-t-e-n-c-y NFL, please.
Schwartz needs to be held accountable
For all the penalties. There were some game changing penalties again today.
Not just the penalities either.
I love Coach but Detroit looked foolish in pretty much every way out there today. I was embarrassed as friends from around the country were texting me asking what the fuck happened.
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Yup.
I’ve defended Schwartz so much for the past two years, well, mainly to Joshsun, but…. He needs to take most, if not all of the blame for this one. Undisciplined, unprofessional, and this team wasn’t ready for this game. Against GREEN BAY. Pathetic.
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A culture change was needed, but when you haven’t done nothing to earn that attitude then your just just a thuggish, low-life team, and basically a laughing stock when you fall flat on your face.
This is getting to be Rex Ryan like.
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This is getting to be Rex Ryan like.
ugggggg
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Agreed.
I was over at GB’s site for a few minutes and was almost mad at some of the things they were saying, until I realized that we deserved it all.
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Yup, that's what is pissing me off...
You can’t defend it. Their right.
by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 8:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it really is embarrassing isn't it :(
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Suh Was Wrong.
Let’s move on okay. Bringing it up constantly won’t help anyone.
In that case
My advice is to avoid sportscenter, yahoosports, and 97.1 the ticket for at least a week.
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It deserves to be brought up.
It was dirty and uncalled for. And he wasn’t even apologetic.
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I gotta believe that he'll semi-atone for it later. Just a feeling.
This is gonna be a harsh fucking week.
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Agreed
He does not come off as a “bad” guy…he just is very emotional/passionate with his on the field play.
He probably is reconsidering that play right now. I think he will come out soon with a more honest apology.
Let’s not tear down a person because they make a few stupid mistakes.
Come out with a more honest apology...
written by PR and ordered to by higher ups.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
right now my low opinion of that man is he'll only own up to it once people get through to him and explain the consequences of his actions and lies
His statement shows a poor character. His statements were so definitive I don’t know how he can backpeddle.
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He's still pissed off about the game.
Give him an effing break. Geez…some of you people really act all high and mighty…as if none of you has ever lost their temper and not apologized right away.
He’s imperfect…as a human being. I will give him a chance to apologize..and not prejudge what he is thinking right now.
Seriously some of you need to get off your high horse. No one is perfect.
He is very young and can learn. Just give him a chance.
by akadwriter on Nov 24, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Like I said, I expect a shift in his tone in the coming week.
I’m giving him his chance.
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
Notice my above reply...
I am referring to others…not really you.
Alright buddy.
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
Thank You
We are so quick in this country to label certain people.
The ironic thing is that we preach “tolerance” and all that shit.
But when someone steps out of line…oh boy…they will be tarnished for good.
Disagree
Suh has had plenty of time to change his play and attitude. He is saying the same things here he always has. It’s the media. It doesn’t change my play etc…
Well guess what. It should change your play jackass. Perception is reality with people and guess what, refs are people. Your hurting your team.
Knock it off.
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by Spider1 on Nov 24, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I see only a few truly dirty plays.
The one with Delhomme (duh) and this one.
For goodness sake, this is football. If you call the other plays dirty, maybe we should call it flag football.
Yeah,
The thing with Dalton doesn’t really count either, because he’s a rookie and they didn’t really get a chance to get hazed.
What would Earl Boykins do?
by FMFDOC8404 on Nov 24, 2011 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You're right.
I’m not perfect. I’ve been angry when I played soccer and maybe had a bad slide tackle, but I have never intentionally stomped on a defenseless player after the play was over. Pathetic. Being “young” has nothing to do with it.
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by Bighaircut on Nov 24, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well you know I have had my own dirty plays...
And later apologized for that. Some people are more passionate than others. That doesn’t mean we should just label them as bad.
I am not justifying his actions…just saying that some of you are too quick to assume he isn’t sorry.
I mean seriously, this is national tv…what do you think he is going to say right after the game, right after getting his ass handed to him by the Packers?
Um...
He has the right to be pissed. He can be angry after getting blown out, but he can also say my bad. Sorry for stomping on a defenseless player. That was wrong.
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Pride
That’s a big reason why people don’t admit to wrong right away.
He just needs to step back and think about it.
Ok, it still doesn't give him the right to do it in the first place
He’s a professional. Act like one.
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I agree...
But NO ONE doing their job is always professional.
If you are always a pro at your job you are the only one.
my favorite is when people write something about doing one's job
while they are at work on a SBN message board
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Yeah.
We love to point fingers as Americans.
It’s easier than admitting that sometimes we f up too.
now wait a minute, you're starting to paint some broad brush strokes
unfortunately it’s true tho as many people wont accept personal responsibility for their own actions. To recognize that in society like you are doing how can you excuse Suh for exhibiting exactly that poor character.
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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I disagree
There have been and are a few that never take a second off of being a pro. In football alone, Tim Tebow is that guy right now.
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Okay God.
How do you get so close to them?
How do you know which ones take a sec off or not?
Why are you bringing god into this?
Nothing I said has anything to do with that. Your arguments are becoming less and less valid.
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+ Jesus Christ
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by Spider1 on Nov 24, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+ Superstar
What would Earl Boykins do?
by FMFDOC8404 on Nov 24, 2011 10:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Um how about "I screwed up, I hurt my team today, can't do that etc..
I’ve heard it from Cam Newton almost every damn press conference.
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
Don't assume he won't say that later.
You all jump to conclusions.
I am glad you all are God and know his heart.
Don't assume he will
Or is it only fair if you assume positives?
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by Spider1 on Nov 24, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Well if he doesn't you can call me out.
I was wrong then.
But I want to hear people eating crow if he apologizes in a few days.
You all just are waiting for him to fail at this point.
Nobody has called him out to this point
That’s what got us to this point. The stuff your saying is the true fan crap Suh is talking about. No disrepect to you personally I am just saying.
All POD for the most part has been pulling for Suh so this waiting to fail stuff is just BS.
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
when suh leads this team to a super bowl in 13 or 14
the same people eviscerating him here will be cheering him
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
He wont be leading the team.
That’s the point. He is going to be standing on the sidelines
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Well played
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
I'll cheer for him every day
But you can’t blame anyone for calling him out on this certain play.
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by Bighaircut on Nov 24, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it's a bad play but ultimately i don't care
he’ll be punished, he’ll serve, and either he’ll learn from it or he won’t. i don’t care about what happened, only what happens next
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I can deal with that.
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That is the same attitude (basically)
That Schwartz took with Suh in the past and look where it got us.
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by joshsun on Nov 24, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
7-4? one of the most improved teams? THE most improved team since 2008?
regressing from some fantasy we all had at 5-0, sure, but let’s see what happens next.
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
7 and 4 and...
a team imploding.
That’s what it looks like to the rest of the country.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
They'll finish 9-7 or 10-6.
You’re not even a Lions fan, I doubt you’ve watched more than a couple games this season.
They’re capable of coalescing around this and winning again. A single-game implosion is what I think we saw.
..and I don’t give a damn what you or the rest of the country thinks about the Detroit Lions.
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
As I don't really care what the Detroit Lions' fans...
think of me.
I’m just telling it like it is.
Of course I’m not a Lions fans, it’s hard to be one when one of your stars is a blatantly dirty player and delusional about being so.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
So, you're an outta town troll.
cool story bro!
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
People still say "cool story bro"?
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u mad, bro?
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Haha, yeah.
You nailed it.
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That's what the problem is with all of this.I want to tell you to get fucked.But I can't.
Your not wrong, and I can’t dispute what your saying.
Why are you even here?
Go away troll.
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Not trolling.
Just giving my opinion.
I’m here, as are many out-of-towners I would imagine, because one of your players stomped on a player. I figured I would get into the discussion.
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Nah dude, you said they imploded. Season over.
..you’re wrong and you know it.
Go tell that shit to another fanbase. I don’t buy it.
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Nah dude, I said they are imploding.
Which it appears they are. I’m sorry if my perception offends you.
I did make one trollish comment, about waving the season goodbye, which I regret. But the fact remains, it appears to me that the Lions are imploding from the head coach down.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
You can get into this discussion without saying
Of course I’m not a Lions fans, it’s hard to be one when one of your stars is a blatantly dirty player and delusional about being so.
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Was that an incorrect assessment?
I’m not a Lions fan, I love across the country.
And it is hard to be a fan of the Lions when one of your stars is a clearly dirty player.
What’s so wrong with that statement?
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
I think he's a dirty player too
But you don’t have to come into this discussion saying stuff like that.
It’s not just that statement, it’s that one and others that you randomly have posted on here.
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I don't have to come into this discussion telling the truth?
I’m sorry if it hurts to hear, but I wanted to say my two cents.
Is it just that an outsider has come in to criticize one of your own? Sorry man, but there will be a lot more where that came from when the Lions and the NFL hand down their punishments.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
One more time.
You came in here trying to tell us the team’s season is lost.
I don’t need you to tell me they imploded for one game. I wrote “meltdown” during the gamethread. I know they fell apart.
*during one game".
You’re fronting like the organization just crumbled. It’s some silly shit. I get you’re within your rights to come in here and comment, but at least come with something substantive… and you think Suh’s dirty, I got it. Nothing profound. Don’t really need it. It’d be cool if you found the exit door, and soon. You’re a bore.
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
Yet you keep responding...
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
yet you keep coming over here...
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You really don't realize the point we're trying to get across...
You can talk about this all you want, how bad Suh is, how dirty he is, etc…but we don’t want to hear about it from some guy who isn’t part of our team or who isn’t part of our team’s community. If you really want to rip on him so much, do so on Mlive or yahoo! sports…not here. Not after we as fans of the Lions have already done so. you’re old news.
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by Bighaircut on Nov 26, 2011 5:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I cheer for the Lions
He happens to be one so he gets that automatically. Does not mean I have to like him.
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you'll like him if he wins the SB
you’ll even like schwartz too
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I will like the Lions if they win the SB
If those two are around when it happens will not change a thing.
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At least he's consistent.
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How Forgiving of you
Hope your family doesn’t make any mistakes.
I would not want to be around when that happens.
one can forgive, but how often do they actually forget?
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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I like him.
He seems like a decent guy.
He just needs to rethink his actions.
I am not upset about that.
Just how you all suddenly want to trash him and make him out to be this horrible guy.
He’s young and stupid. Just gotta learn from his mistakes.
Nope. He's had one foot on the dirty player line for awhile
He just now crossed it.
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Hell to the Yes.
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
i liked 'em too. because they won
could care less if we’re the raiders or if we’re all tim tebow (i like tebow too).
doesn’t matter.
just win
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Totally irrelevant
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This is football.
This is year 2011. Totally different sports, totally different teams…do I really have to explain this?
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well 3 out of 4 in this thread...
do i really have to explain this?
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm done arguing this.
Nothing is going to get settled.
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Hahaha
You still ignore the fact that they are celebrated.
And they were just as dirty as anything Suh has done.
don't forget there's about an 88% chance
he wasn’t alive for that
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
I feel like I am talking with a 8 year old.
NO
It’s not. They were a pro sports team…with “dirty” players.
And we cheer them to this day.
Dirty after the whistle is way less effective.
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
exactly
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Wait
Don’t bring up actual history.
That might get some of the idiots on here upset.
Man how we like to forget the past. Hahaha.
by akadwriter on Nov 24, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Detroit history, even
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
I know
Our educational system sucks. haha
everyone gets a trophy today
and we cry every time it doesn’t go our way
#occupywallst
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
I subsitute teach.
It’s sad. Illustrated right now on this wall. Ugh.
Because a few people disagree with you...
Makes US stupid? Gag.
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NO
Because you don’t want to give a chance that maybe Suh isn’t so bad.
That maybe he isn’t that dirty.
You just want to label and run with it.
your best argument so far has been
“do i really have to explain this?”
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm done.
If you want to actually read my posts and my arguments, go ahead, they’re right there for you to see. It’s easy to see that I’m sure as hell not the only one that thinks this way.
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Disagree.
One dirty play (Delhomme) till now does not make you dirty.
Did anyone in college call him dirty?
Nope.
But now he is. Doesn’t matter in college.
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he's probably dirty
only question is if we care or not
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Two dirty plays
and a handfull of other close ones.
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Nope, it only takes one
Like say for instance, Stomping on a defenseless prone player.
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Suh says he was getting tied up w/the dude
I don’t think the GB player was as innocent as some would lead us to believe, but we’re on the same page for the most part.
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
Thanks
Didn’t realize that happened today.
Well I sure won't tell you I did anything bad at work.
I would be labeled as “bad” for the rest of my life.
Was your bad act at work
on live video feed for anyone in the world to see? Was it recorded so the entire world can see it over and over?
I am guessing no to both.
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You will not get through to these guys.
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So if you aren't caught it's not Bad?
What the heck?
That makes no sense ethically.
I really don't think this warrants calling him a dirty player at all
I think it just gives people another excuse to do it. You don’t call Andre Johnson or Steve Smith of the Panthers dirty for doing the exact same thing if not worse. He’s got a short temper but he doesn’t try to break the rules or injure other players.
Neither of those players did what Suh did.
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by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Congrats.
You are king of irrelevant news stories.
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You are the King of Dumb Statements.
Congrats. : )
What a smart comment to make.
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Andre Johnson beats the shit out of Cortland Finnegan for hitting him in the face
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBT6MygnKKw
Pretty similar
Bighaircut do you have a response to this?
Do you consider Andre Johnson a dirty player? What about Smith? Do I need to find more examples? My point is A LOT of players have lapses like this and that does not make them dirty. People are just so eager to paint Suh with the dirty label which I feel is undeserved. You can say he has anger issues but you can’t call him dirty IMO.
THANK YOU!!!!!
Kalzilla…I was trying to put what I wanted to say into words..and you said it for me!!!
Andre? No. Smith? Yes.
But Smith is dirty in a different way than Suh.
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So what makes Suh dirty?
All I see is a big, mean looking guy who plays with a nasty attitude and doesn’t let people fuck with him. He doesn’t dive at peoples knees and he doesn’t try to break rules. He doesn’t hit after the whistle any more than Vanden Bosch or Avril do.
I really hate defending him after he made such a stupid decision today but it’s BS to call him dirty.
I've explained many times
But I’ll put it all together here. Suh has been borderline dirty for awhile in my eyes. I’ve defended him more than anyone lately before this incident. But I can’t anymore.
“Dirty” in my mind, disagree if you want, is a player that steps over the line(example: very late hits, throwing punches, hitting defenseless players etc…) more than once. Suh has a few borderline “dirty plays” and then a few that are just filthy, such as Delhomme and the one today. There is no place for that anywhere. I feel like Suh tries to be this model of fear on the field, which I like, but when he isn’t performing as well as he knows he can, he does some things to take his anger out. Suh was being stifled today by GB’s O-line, and Suh got a chance to take his anger out by performing a dirty play, and that’s what he did. It’s what he’s done before.
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And that's where I disagree
If I took the time I could find just as many examples of KVB, Corey, Avril, or any other d lineman (not just Detroit’s) doing things exactly like Suh does. These things are just brought to the spotlight because of his fame/skill. Nobody is up in arms about Willie Young or Nick Fairley’s late hits this season (who have both had a comparable number of questionable plays to Suh despite less play time). The dirty player label is just sensationalizing things that happen when you’re playing a fast paced contact sport.
Ok, I see your point
But none of those players have done what Suh just did, nor have they had the spotlight shone on them like Suh, especially on national tv on Thanksgiving. That last part may not be fair to Suh, but that’s how it is.
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No. I I see your point.
I still think he’s dirty, and it’s fine to do so. It’s also ok to not call him dirty. It doesn’t matter. He’s on our team, and I will hope for the best for him from here on out, after his suspension.
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No, I see your point.
I still think he’s dirty, and it’s fine to do so. It’s also ok to not call him dirty. It doesn’t matter. He’s on our team, and I will hope for the best for him from here on out, after his suspension.
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Kalzilla
See you and I totally agree on this one.
Again you said it better than I could at the moment.
Agreed
Anger issues might be more appropriate. I only think someone is really dirty If they purposely beforehand go out to try to hurt someone. Like Corey Perry in hockey.
Right? Purposefully breaking the rules a la James Harrison or purposefully injuring someone a la Stevie Johnson
That’s the only really justifiable reason to call someone dirty.
Difference:
Johnson realized he was at fault and immediately apologized.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Yeah...
That won’t change his mind.
Facts are irrelevant.
Suh is a horrible guy. Maybe we should just lock him up right now.
Did I say ANY of that?
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That's your attitude right now.
I just said “give him a chance to apologize and learn from his mistakes” in so many words.
And I get jumped on for saying that. Geez
No. You're really not reading anything I write
I said he’s dirty. I said nothing about him being a horrible person or that he can’t change.
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just so my point is clear
i also think he’s dirty, and i don’t care as long as this team wins. super bowl or bust.
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I realize that.
And I can’t change your perspective. I’m just stating mine.
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Well why didn't you just say that to begin with LOL
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nobody will care when we win
is my bigger point =)
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
As of now, and I realize this won't be popular.....
The way “tude” and some sort of “entitlement” has krept into the Lions persona after winning nothing, I don’t really see how they’ll ever become a professional classy organization.
At the slightest bit of success, they’ll be shooting themselves in the foot with undisplined play.
by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 9:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
eh give it time
this might be a necessary step in going from 0-16 to contenders. can’t condemn them forever. we’ll have to wait and see.
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
I know, your right...just sort of down over it all.
by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 9:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
Just a bit of a downer…gee.
As if we need more of it.
just gotta drop it Bighaircut
You’re not gonna be able to get through to them. I feel what you’re saying 100% though. Not worth getting into the fight unfortunately.
THEM?
If you mean me, no…you won’t get through to me because I disagree.
I don’t think you can call someone dirty unless you can prove that they repeatedly decided to hurt someone with premeditation during a game.
“Heat of the moment” stuff should not be counted. IMO.
can i get thru to you?
let me try
suh is probably dirty, but the arrogance of people on internet boards about the bigger picture is out of control
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
I just am sick of all the Negatives on here right now!
We know the media will tear us apart. Why do we have to do it to ourselves as well?
That’s what is so depressing.
the defence was the shit
think about the starting distance of both them we play good. but way also shot ourself in the foot . Injurys and penaltys killed us
I'm sure some will
but not everyone is that superficial. To some extent this will stick to Suh long after he’s retired even just as it has for Haynesworth. Granted FatAl has found plenty of other ways to discredit himself and I don’t see Suh ever dropping that low
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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I think cumulatively the entire game has decimated morale for the day
‘round here at POD. I don’t think people are waiting for him to fail, they’re just dejected and pissed.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
but if he comes out and says he's sorry in a few days how will you know that's what's in his heart?
I think that when he gets suspended and perhaps even loses sponsorship deals he’s going to feel really sorry. There’s a difference between being sorry for ones actions and being sorry for ones punishment.
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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Were not the ones that went cry to the league office.
You don’t see other players stomping on the opponent. Young players for that matter.
Then come up with some completely bullshit excuse throwing in God, and only apoligizing to the “true fans”? What’s up with that?
by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 8:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well God knows his intentions.
He really does only ultimately have to answer to Him.
But if he is lying, it will come out. I think he just has a lot of PRIDE.
He just doesn’t want to admit it right now.
Hey, I have been there.
no akad, let's not move on
the team, the player, and even the fans, have to own this. This was a career, nay life, altering day for young Suh. He’ll never be viewed the same way again. The fans of this sport, no not just of this team, have to speak up and say this is not the way this sport is to be played. Moving on from it so quickly just dismisses it
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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Here is what I don't get
Last year they got beat early and needed an edge to show they were not going to be anyones punching bag.They got nasty to show the league they were not going down without a fight.Nice rally point, it woked to an extent and they started winning.
This year they come in with all these expectations and start showing the league they aren’t going to get pushed around by winning games. They have the talent to win with a physical style of play, but there is no need for the 70’s style of borderline dirty play. So why are they still using this as a rally point? The Defense, especially the D-line is one of the best in the league. Why the need for all the hands to the face, late hits and penalties that give the offense more downs to put up points.
These are very talented professionals that can beat their man, get to the QB/RB take them down and do it repeatedly. When the play is over pick the guy up off the turf, pat him on the ass, show some respect and let him know you will be right back to put him down again. You aren’t going to intimidate another professional by a cheap shot, the only thing you will do is get caught sooner or later and cost your team a score.
In short this team is talented enough now not to need all this bull shit. This is hurting them and the coach needs to recognize a change is needed.
by ncbur10 on Nov 24, 2011 8:21 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Can we all just calm down for a second?
Can we just sit back and think about this? Just for a minute. All this fighting doesn’t look good for us. Whether or not we want to defend Suh or not I think at the end of the day we can all sit back and say we need to player better, more disciplined football, and that starts with a team leader like Suh.
We’re 7-4 and still in some control of a wild card spot. We’re still in this thing and a fractured fan base won’t help anything
we must unite as fans to reach the playoffs!
call to arms!
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think we're all good. We're just in opposition as to how sympathetic we are to Suh.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
i think it's the arrogance with which some condemn
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
If you're asking me like
yo, dude’s clearly dirty and unstable. Would you like to deal him to another team?
I’d be like fuck to the no. Suh’s a Lion.
Take the good with the bad. Just like Stafford throws picks and gets hurt. He also leads us to victory.
Suh fucked up. NFL players fuck up. This too, will pass.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
by Skylar on Nov 24, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
your question is fantastic!
i wonder how the masses would answer.
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think that's a fair way to put it.
People on both sides of the debate are going to far.
What Suh did today was totally uncalled for. However, we can’t call for his head just yet.
I just think that by being so divided on this controversy we’re feeding into the whole media hype about us being dirty. We just need to view it like it is: A dumb play, no matter how you feel about Suh as a player, he made a mistake. We need to move on from this, and find a way to learn from it.
did it truly pass for Haynesworth? that branded him as a dirty player
the same way this will brand Suh.
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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-Tufflynx
Haynesworth's stomp was so much better than Suh's stomp
Who stomps a persons bicep?? You gotta go for the head every time.
true
stylistically I think Suh could have tried harder.
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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-Tufflynx
Hey why does Staff get a pass?
Stafford has cost us some wins, played scared, made real dumb decisions but it gets passed off as being young. If he was consistantly going deep when Megatron was covered that’s one thing, but he fing dinks and dunks like he can’t trust himself, he completely missed CJ wide open today. Oh, give him time he’s only 23, this is his first full season, slurp slurp gag gargle. If you want Suh’s head on a pike, it’ll be because he’s fing trying. Remember the time Barry spiked the ball? How you felt for his frustration in dealing with the pussies around him? This is a team problem, how to be winners with passion. How to play to win instead of not lose.
Oh, hey Nate, the ball is your friend.
Fuck Nickeldouches and the 49ers fans that love them.
by chuckrocks on Nov 24, 2011 9:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i agree
stafford needs to make better decisions too
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don't want his head on a pike.
But this was an unforced error, after the play, and could cost us the playoffs if he is suspended for multiple games.
i've given up on the playoffs this year
hopefully we find a way to sneak in for the experience.
regardless, this year has been a success. team is improving. quite a bit of ways to go, but it’s good to be a lions fan right now. we’re only a bit confused right now because of the 5-0 start.
by redwingxviii on Nov 24, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
how about sammy hill
had a good stuff run and played most of the game there run game was weak thats a hell of a plus for me
I'm actually pretty interested in seeing how this line plays without Suh if he gets suspended
We’ll get to see what Fairley can do as well as SLH/Fluellen
Yep. Throw Fairley right in there. Go time.
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
how meny db did we loose? We had a wr as a db
the defiance played a hell of a game. there pass come in the 2nd half we lost are sterters by then
Hilarious that people are defending Suh on this.
What he did was pathetic and an awful thing to do as a human being.
Who's defending him?
They’re in the deep minority here.
Can you read?
No one is defending what he did.
perhaps not defending it, but it sure sounds like you're excusing it time and time again in this thread
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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by Ee Oulo on Nov 25, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah Scout. Get your shit straight.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
And just as a sidenote
I know Suh doesn’t care about the NFL fining him but Subway and all his other endorsements might be taking a second look at him as well
Maybe he will care about that.
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
He shouldn't
He’s here to play football at a high level, not to make money off of endorsements.
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by delusional on Nov 24, 2011 11:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Fuck twitter.
With or without it, I’m sure he regrets what he did now that the game is cold and over.
He doesn’t need a bunch of dudes on the internet to make him feel shitty about it.
He needs to find that balance of physicality and defensive dominance without crossing the line and above all, costing the team out there.
Best believe he’ll be reflecting for awhile about what happened today.
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Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
i kinda like the communication
i’m not sure of its efficacy, but i’d like to think that all of the anger/frustration gets us a better suh next season
by redwingxviii on Nov 25, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed skylar.
He is a decent enough guy to know that he was wrong. Just needs time to sink in.
Ive read this blog for a long time and this is my first time posting
Did Suh overreact yes, should he be suspended probably but i want to point something out watching the replay. The “stomp” isnt as bad as it looks. If you were to get stomp by Suh on your arm i dont care who you are you would be in freaking pain. And the guy who got stomped is clearly not…so just pointing that out either Suh is lousy at trying to curb stomp peoples arms or people are overreacting to it. Thats just my observation. GO LIONS!
The "stomp" isnt as bad as it looks. If you were to get stomp by Suh on your arm i dont care who you are you would be in freaking pain. And the guy who got stomped is clearly not…so just pointing that out either Suh is lousy at trying to curb stomp peoples arms or people are overreacting to it.
That’s like saying you aren’t really shot at until the bullet hits you.
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by afrikabamboodle on Nov 25, 2011 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
My take
A lot of people are going overboard here… I was particularly pissed at the CBS halftime show… Media is still calling the Culter push an “armbar” even though the video clearly shows Suh’s arms extending into Cutler’s back. So as long as they continuing to bring that up I’m inclined to think they are playing for headlines. I will admit Suh’s two infamous helmet rip off sacks were borderline dirty, but hardly the things that should make you infamous. We’ve seen plenty worse by Ray Lewis or any number of Steelers or Ravens. This isn’t to defend Suh’s stomp today, but put things in perspective… Something the media clearly isn’t willing to do as they have an agenda. As for the head slams it is clear the Packer guard had Suh locked in arm-and-arm and could have easily been holding Suh down. The stomp looks like Suh thought the Packer coming from behind and the guard were continuing to try and hold him down. He reacted badly and deserves a suspension and fine… But overall this is being blown out of proportion because the Lions are the new bad boys… Or at least that is the media storyline and they are going to run that into the ground.
Nothing borderline about Delhomme.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
No.
Do I have to be to participate in this discussion?
Seems to be an irrelevant question.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Have you played?
Too many people who have never played the game are the ones who are writting the NFL rules… Or claiming what is or isn’t dirty. Delhomme play deserved the penalty and the fine, but was more indicative of a rookie who didn’t know the envelope. I haven’t seen Suh do something similar since… Until yesterday. As said the Cutler play last year was a push to the back, a perfectly good tackle/hit. The Dalton hit was one where the QB released the ball while in the grasp of the d-lineman, and was exactly why there used to be a quick whistle… Until the no-nothings decided to get rid of the quick whistle.
I've played before.
I liked the Cutler hit. That was violently beautiful.
But on the other plays it seems he’s taking it a step too far. Like he’s always trying to rip a helmet off. And yesterday provided the undeniable proof.
I believe that the majority of the backlash is because he’s denying he purposely stomped on the GB player. Regaining his balance. Trying to remove himself from the situation. All bullshit. If he had come out and said, I screwed up. I let my emotions take over and I apologize.
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