Ask a Saints Fan
Hello Lions fans! Grumps from Canal Street Chronicles here.
It’s time for our teams to go Prime Time this week, after the NFL powers that be mercifully moved the game between our two talented teams to the evening slot, replacing the one sided shellacking that will be Patriots vs. Colts (seriously, who thinks the Pats will be able to keep up with the high-powered Colts Offense).
Feel free to ask anything you care to about the Saints, make predictions for the game, or trash talk as you see fit.
Someone will be around to answer your questions.
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What types of defenses have given the Saints the most trouble? wheather it be zone man or scheme?
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by Waitingfortheroar on Nov 29, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions
To tell the truth only the Rams defense has challenged us
They got pressure with their front four expecially there DE and got to Brees
We lost a shootout to GB and our coach got hurt in Tampa and we looked lost
Get to brees with your DE’s and play coverage and you have a shot
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
So, you're saying, Hurt the coach and we got a shot.
I think we can handle that.
"Lemme Tell you why I have confidence in the long term future of this team... It's #9, That's why I have confidence in the long term future of this Team." - Jim Schwartz
Thats the spirit.
You should probably plan on doing it earlier in the week just to be on the safe side.
Just in case you forgot what he looks like, you want to go after this guy:

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by Grumps on Nov 29, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
I tell you right now
If all it takes is hurting the coach to win this game, I am there.
Ummm….. he is where on saturday at around noon?
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by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
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Bwahaha!!
Well played, Grumps.
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by Dave Cariello on Nov 30, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
This would be the perfect link for you to send Dave at the falcohalic
If I knew how I would
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I was actually sitting at a bar in Downtown New Orleans
Watching that Saints/Packer game… Packers came out on fire. Of course, I had my Lions shirt on and was cheering with the Saint fans… but to no avail.
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Well
I tend to agree with mississippi.
You need to get pressure from your D-line. That is when Brees rushes his throws. Regardless of the scheme, if given enough time, Brees usually is able to put the ball where he wants it.
That being said. Your D-line to me is going to be a great match-up for our O-line. I love the depth you have on your line. Will be a great yardstick to measure our O-lines overall ability. They have been playing well ever since getting manhandled vs. the Rams.
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What type of food allergies does...
Drew Brees have so I can send him a little “snack” before the game…. ;)
He's allergic to cheesy mac send him some of that
It’s an inside Saints joke
But I think his favorite food this week is lion burgers with a side of 40 burgers
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
His pre-game meal is cheesy mac and before the Colts game he didnt get it
And we see what happened to the colts lol
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
actually
a high pasta meal before a game is a good thing
Back in the day, I used to do the same.
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Haha!
I was going to say the same thing. Great minds think alike.
Here’s a better explanation of the beefy mac mix up, direct from Payton…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GjhcxyQaSY
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by Dave Cariello on Nov 30, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm...
He is allergic to incompletions. The more he throws, the angrier he gets. His only known cure is throwing a TD pass.
He is also immune to hairballs so no need to worry about the shedding present when you guys visit the Dome.
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I was thinking about adding a little NyQuil to his gatorade....
that seems to do the trick in the commercials.

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We have it on tape. Busted!
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by Grumps on Nov 29, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like you guys are going to get the division
Do you think you might sit your starters this Sunday?
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Well...
If you could guarantee for me that the Falcons could stop pulling miracles out of their butts I would see what I could do. But since you probably can’t: No second stringers for you.
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the falcons are nothing more than that misquito
you know, the one that is always right in your ear.
Nothing to worry about with them. :)
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Who would you say is your weakest link on the O-line?
From the stats that I see it looks to be Charles Brown. Would you say that is the case?
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Bushrod has been our starter since 2009 has has done an acceptable job
At times he does get beaten but then Payton agjust the blocking scheme to help him out and all in all Drews blind side stays pretty clean
We had a rotating door at RT when Strief got hurt earlier but he has been back since after the Rams game and drew has stayed pretty clean I dont believe he has been sacked since then but i’m cant swear to it
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 30, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
Both Bushrod and Strief are equally capable…the struggle most against speed rushers. And while DLP has done a good job of filling in at center….he’s hardly top notch. One of the many reasons the Saints struggle against 3-4 teams, he can’t handle any 1 on 1 bull rush.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
If I can ask you guys a question
How’s the O-line looking this year? Specifically the left tackle? I know there was trouble there in previous years. (Stafford’s injuries attest to that.)
As well, If Suh is out, who replaces him?
Finally, the Lions got screwed by the refs on Thanksgiving. The Saints have been getting screwed by the refs all year, do you think that two teams getting screwed by the refs meeting in a game is like dividing by zero?
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So-so IMO
Backus(LT) has allowed the most sacks(6). But again he has faced some of the best pass rushers in the league. He is solid against speed rushers, but has problems with the bull rushers. Overall the Lions O-line pass blocks well. They lack something in the run game.
Lucky, we have depth at DT. I see Nick “No-Fair” Fairely starting in place of Suh, with a lot of Sammie Lee Hill in rotation.
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hmm.
I did see Will Smith doing a lot of bull rushing against the Giants…
Thanks for answering.
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Groaan
Stafford’s injuries attest to that.
That’s just a common misconception around the NFL about the Lions. Left tackle is probably the most consistent spot of the offensive line, and it has been that way for the last decade or so with Jeff Backus never missing an NFL game in his career. As far as this year, the sack numbers are up. The Lions are 13th in the league so far compared to 7th last year.
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So then do you think Stafford is injury prone, or just a sufferer of freak injuries?
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Combination of a multitude of things
He took a ton of hits his rookie year, and many of them were brutal. Still, four injuries is a lot, so luck definately played its part. I also don’t think he is made of steel, but he certainly isn’t an injury waiting to happen.
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Personally...
I think Suh being out gives our defense an advantage.
DLine is the strength and the deepest position… The tackle rotation will be Williams, Fairley, SLH, and Fluellen… I don’t expect ANY drop off in DLine play… I DO expect a shake up in how N.O. Oline protection… who do they double? Do they need to double? these issues should allow for an early play to be made.
…optimistism… its the strongest attribute of a Lions fan.
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Weird question:
Do you think your game vs. St Louis was a result of a city being high on their World Series championship? (I know the trophy was in the stadium at one point)
‘Cause I don’t think I’m alone when I say I NEVER thought the Rams would pull that out.
Was it a different Rams team? (I admit I haven’t watched much Rams football this year) Or a different Saints team?
(I know the answer is most likely some of each, but for the sake of discussion, if you had to choose one?)
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Well
For some reason, the Rams play us tough. We have crapped the bed a few times recently against them. However, I do think that the loss was a combination of: the crowd energy was huge and the Baseball championship certainly helped; good pass rush and our O-line forget to bring their ability from NOLA; and that Drew tried to get points back in a hurry prior to the half and forced a throw that compounded our deficit a few plays later.
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I'm curious how Saints fans view the Lions coming into this game
It’s obviously clear that the Saints are on a roll, and the Lions have a lot of things not going their way right now. Do people in NO consider this game a lock for the Saints? Or are they expecting a close game?
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Simply put
All outsider opinions so bare with me if you think I am off:
You have IMO the best WR in the game. You have a QB who is inconsistent at times but has the ability to put up ridiculous stats. Your RB situation is an unknown at this point in time (to bad about Best, Smith looked great until his ankle injury and we don’t know if he will play, Morris looks good to). Your D-line is disgustingly deep and talented. Truth be told, other than Tulloch I don’t know much about your LB’s or secondary.
Summary: I don’t consider this game even close to being a lock. I think the Lions are a very good team (and from what I have read on this site today I am far more optimistic about their playoff chances than most of you) that the Saints cannot take lightly. I mentioned earlier that I think your D-line will be a great test for our O-line. I feel this game will be a high scoring shoot-out.
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I think it will come down to
the Lions D vs the Saints O. If the Lions can slow down the Saints offense a bit. Say around 24 points. Than I think the Lions got a shot.
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Well my opinion has been up lifted today
I was really worried about this game but 2 things changed we smoked the Giants and Suh isn’t playing
I thought we would win in a close game because it was in our dome (the thunderdome) and because we seem to show up big against good teams and lay an egg with bad teams
But I feel much better today
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Having Suh out doens't necessarily mean the Dline will be any less effective
They’re really deep. No one knows how good Sammie Hill is (he started as a rookie two years ago and is much better now than he was).
But I will say having some momentum and home field advantage is big…
The boys are back in town!
well that kinda put a damper on my thoughts I thought no Suh and your D line would be affected badly
But like I said o9t’s still in our dome and we have a tendencies to play big in big games against good teams
Oh and I forgot to mention that freak of a reciever you have we need to find a way to slow him down
Because if we let him run loose down field and we dont get to and rattle stafford it will be a shootout
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 30, 2011 8:09 AM EST up reply actions
Saints had a history of being bad
Just curious as a Lions fan what the journey has been like.
Was there a time when you knew you had turned the corner for good? Could you see it coming? Was it consistent wins? Beating teams you shouldn’t have. Signing Drew?
When did you know that you could trust this team to be good consistently
Interested in a fans perspective on this who also has suffered through at times a brutal franchise.
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Our second year of Drew and Sean
Their first year we went to the nfc championship and their second year we weren’t as good but there was a vast improvement 2 years in a row
And I knew as long as we had Drew and Sean we would never be the Aints again
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I suffered through it for over 30 years. I’m one of the resident naysayers that make the kiddies get all riled up anytime I say the Saints are in for a tough game. Honestly…the suffering doesn’t go away. We’ve been to 3 playoffs in 5+ years, 2 NFC championship games 1 Super Bowl victory and I still expect the Saints to find ways to lose games. It’s merely a nice change of pace when they don’t.
I still won’t say we’ve turned the corner for good…because honestly the only thing that’s keeping us from falling off the heap is our QB. We’re not a team like the 9ers that can play hard and win in my opinion if Drew leaves in free agency, or gets hurt (knock on wood) and the like. Honestly, I didn’t think we’d stay competitive and had gotten over the hump until the end of last season….yes, even after winning the Super Bowl. Now I know that barring an injury to Drew we’ll be competitive for at least another two or three years after this one. Unfortunately 30+ years of abysmal failure and being mocked just don’t go away….at least they haven’t for me. Not sure anything short of a dynastic team would do it.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Wow....
that sounds amazingly familiar to a few people over here. They get the kiddies all riled up as well……
yea...
some of the newer fans think the team craps gold. So if you say someone had a bad game…even if they did…they tend to over react and start yelling about how you aren’t a real fan. A real fan is the person who lived through decades of misery and still wears their colors with pride win or lose. They don’t seem to get that.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Yep
Quite a few cases of the Lombardi colored glasses. Truth be told, I always wonder how many would stick around if the Saints started playing like they did in the best and how many of them were only around due to the recent success. Mark of a true fan is the one who sticks by their team through good and bad. I for one witnessed a lot of bad. And now am just enjoying the ride of the recent success.
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by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 1, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
hey, I resemble that remark!
lol
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by joshsun on Nov 30, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Very interesting perspective
It seems the Saints were built to outscore people which kind of seems like the way to go in this recent NFL.
Just curious since you have been a fan for so long. Would you prefer the team be built on defense like a San Fran, Ravens or Bucs of old?
Because as I said with the way the NFL is going seems like the Saints model is the one to go with.
Star QB and lots of weapons.
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I’ve been a fan long enough to see it both ways. I remember the highlights of the Dome Patrol days where our defense was unquestionably one of the top two or three in all of football. One year I do believe we gave up just over 200 points the entire season and I think it remains one of the top 5 seasons every scoring wise by a defense after games went to 16. However….an incredibly defense never even won us a playoff game. People may claim that defense wins championships….but if you go back over the last 25 years…it would seem the opposite is true. No disrespect to Tampa or Baltimore.
I’d prefer a little more balance…but if I had to choose…I guess I’d pick the offensive version over the defensive.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
We had great defense
With the “dome patrol” Ricky Jackson, Sam Mills, Vaughn Johnson, Pat Swilling. The best linebacker tandem ever. The problem was we were in the same division as San Fransisco when they had Joe Montana, then Steve Young.
I’d pick offense.
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What did saints fans expect from Drew Brees and Sean Payton?
I assume the exceeded but I just wonder if it was seen as a sucess immediatley?
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I hated our QB we had Arron Brooks was a nightmare
So when we got Drew I knew it would be a great thing ( but we signed decent QB’s before who fell flat on thier face so i wasn’t sure)
As far as Sean Peyton goes I think I knew his first year that he was a mad sciencetist and if we loose we would always go down swinging
It’s really when Sean Peyton met with the owner in 2009 and said he wanted Greg Williams as a DC and the owner said no he was too expensive
Then Payton made a deal where he would pay an additional $250,000 a year out of his own salary to get Wiliams and the Saints went for it thhat we were set
That was the year we won the superbowl and Greg Williams has turned down HC jobs to stay here since then because of the offense Payton and Brees I knew we had turned the corner for a long time
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 30, 2011 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
I expected nothing from Payton. I didn’t know him…hadn’t heard of him…only knew he came from Dallas and had Parcell linkage. My expectation was he’d be gone inside 4 years. After all…that’s how it’s been since my birth…Mora not withstanding.
Drew….I knew he was good in San Diego. Not great like he has been…but good and solid. Unlike 90% of the Saints fans…I didn’t mind Brooks in the least. Going by just the numbers…he was one of, if not the, best QB we ever had and led us to the only playoff victory in the history of the organization at the time. Considering the severity of the shoulder injury that Drew was coming in with….I expected him to come in a bit short of Brooks’ numbers at his best, simply from past historical indications.
Hindsight is 20/20…but I tell the truth of how I felt and how every Saint fan I knew felt at the time. Most of us were hoping to draft a QB that year and be able to mold a true franchise QB. I wasn’t disappointed that we signed Drew, I knew he was good if he could come back from injury, but I admit I was disappointed that we weren’t going to be starting over from scratch, simply because I felt at the time that starting from scratch was exactly what the team needed.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Is there anyway Chase Daniels starts sunday? LOL
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I love Chase Daniels
He has been mentoring under Brees for 3 years now and when we do get to see him he does well
I cant believe some other teams haven’t tried to steal him away from us yet
I expect him to be a starter on another team sometime in the near future
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 30, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yep
He has been somewhat impressive in preseason lately.
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Having our defense on the field is the weakness of our defense. Saints don’t have a pass rush…so expect to have all day to throw if we don’t blitz. However, the Saints blitz more often than any team in the league…60%. We do this because as Stujo likes to say…GW is trying to make chicken salad out of chicken s%&t. Our linebackers can’t cover backs and TE’s and we display some of the worst tackling of any team. Our starting CBs are above average, especially Greer. Main weakness is definitely the linebacking corp and safeties in pass coverage.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
weird
That sounds a ton like our defense from last season (except the no pass rush)
I really wish we had our full backfield playing this weekend. You guys are hard enough to handle with a fully healthy team. With our second stringers in the secondary, we could very well be in trouble.
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Not real familiar with your running backs now the Best is out
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 30, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions
Our top 3 RBs are out...so yeah
nothing to fear. But we’ve been getting over 100 yards on + 4 ypc for the last 5 games or so regardless…
The boys are back in town!
LeShoure, perhaps?
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Seeing how this team doesn't run the ball much
and that Kevin Smith probably wouldn’t be signed even for two games if Leshoure was on the roster, I would say that people are overvaluing his potential.
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Disagree
Having a physical back helps running attacks tremendously (see Barber, Marion this year) Having at least the threat of being able to bull for short yardage conversions makes play action that much more effective.
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by NobodySpecial on Nov 30, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
The truth of the matter is that Leshoure starts back at Square 1, recovering from an injury that saps high expectations.
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by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 1, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
+1
The coolest Lion nickname ever belongs to Dick "NIGHT TRAIN" Lane; the BAD-ASS LEO of all-time.
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by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 1, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he's our current favorite pipedream, without a game under his belt.
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by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 1, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Johnson…rest aren’t even close. On defense…Avril and Vanden Bosch.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
We also have a couple second string DEs that will probably get your attention this weekend
Lawrence Jackson and Willie Young. Two young and promising DEs.
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They are good ones. Hopefully they will be able to suit up.
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by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 1, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Does Jimmy Graham have any weaknesses?
We don’t usually have TOO much trouble with TE’s, there are exceptions though, but Jimmy seems to have no weakness. He’s fast, physical, and extremely athletic. How do you stop him?
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DJ Moore is a pussy thug.
Well the problem with that is when you double team him
We have Sproles Colsten Moore Meachem and Henderson
I think the best way to stop him is get to Drew Brees
I would worry more about stopping Sproles then Graham that seems to bwe rthe reason Graham is 1 on 1 so much is teams are selling out to stop Sproles
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 30, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
Not physically….no. But he’s learning…he only had 1 year of college ball. He’ll make 2-3 mental mistakes a game still. Put him in a situation where he has to think…could cause a mistake. Let him play and react…the guy’s amazing.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Do you like the way your RBs are being used?
Or would you like one of them to be more utilized than the other two?
whats a running back?
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by JCruize on Nov 29, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It is one of those guys that actually recieves the ball from the QB
on about 50% of the plays.
He is talented. Kinda crazy really. Perhaps a little loopy. He has been known to “fax” it in on occasion…….
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that is really how I feel………
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Hey, we still have Stefan Logan, whom we're been saving for the playoff run.
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by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 1, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Nate Burleson
evidently…
The boys are back in town!
by rames on Nov 29, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love it each has their own set of talents
last year we were in bad shape with RB’s theyu kept getting hurt and we were signing guys off the street
This year we are in good shape as all are healthy
The only problem is next year one will have to go and I think its going to be a crowd favorite Chris Ivory and fast bruising power back who was our team rushing leader lasr year
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 30, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
Except for Sproles…..no. Sproles get used the way he should….but Payton doesn’t utilize the running capabilities of our other backs nearly enough.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
My theory on that
Payton is getting the 5 years of excitement he wanted from Reggie out of his system this year with Sproles. Next year, we should see some semblance of a regular rushing attack.
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All i can say is
The Lions Offense better be clicking on all cylinders! Or this could be a very lopsided game. I guess i could say this WHOLE Lions team better be clicking on all cylinders(def. STs. Offense) Super Dome is not very forgiving to the visitors. GO LIONS!!!!!!
If we don't get pressure and avoid penalties
The Saints will pick us apart.
12-4
by StaffordSuperBowlMVP on Nov 30, 2011 6:54 AM EST reply actions
Whats up fellas Saints fan here
Look forward to the Primetime matchup this Sunday night. You guys are a tough team and have come a long way. This will be a very tough game. The guy that worries the hell out of me is Calvin Johnson. I hope our secondary is fully prepared.
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
No secondary
Is prepared for Calvin Johnson. There is just less physical and mental abuse at times when CJ feels charitable. Man I covet CJ in a Saints uniform.
How about you guys trade him to us for…Joe Horn. I am sure we could pull a few strings to get this accomplished on our side. I will deem no response as a confirmation that this is agreeable to you.
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Hmmmm
Gonna have to pass.
Thanks anyhow. :)
lol
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AVOID PENALTIES???
That’s a good one! ROFL
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by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 1, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
No secondary
Is prepared for Calvin Johnson.
That I can agree with you Grumps. Especially ours. Our D’line will just have to keep Stafford uncomfy in the pocket.
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
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I assume
Greer will draw the assignment. I like Greer’s ability. Regardless, CJ will not be shut down.
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Does anyone remember how we kept Andre Johnson in check when we beat the Texans
Seems to me we did a great job on him but cant rememberhow it’s been so long
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 30, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah we sure did. In that game after the 2 int’s. Saints came alive in 4th quarter when the momentum was in our favor
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
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Greer will not be called upon to cover Calvin…just like he wasn’t really with Andre. Greer covers one side of the field for the most part and doesn’t switch it up too often. He’ll line up versus whoever is on his side of the field. If you’re staring at the backs of the defensive line….Greer is lined up on the left 90% of the time regardless of who is there.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
best bet to limit CJ
is hope that Staff’s injured finger continues to hinder his ability to throw the deep ball.
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I was thinking we would give him some of the NyQuil laced Gatorade.
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by Grumps on Nov 30, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that might work
We should have done that last week against the pack
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Speaking of that game
If you had eliminated all those penalties, the outcome may have been a lot different. You guys were toe to toe with them for a good while
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Yeah
but it’s the same story. We shoot ourselves in the foot was too often. We clearly have the talent to win against anyone, but that doesn’t mean we’re as good of a team because someone is consistently Fing up…young team, but still…
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We shoot ourselves in the foot was too often
We as Saints fans feel your pain. They were the king of penalties during the Haslett, Ditka and Bum Phillips era. Young, talented but not very bright.
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Thanks
I think it will get better as these players get more experience – as most of our difference makers are very young – but some people want to disregard the mistakes and talk about talent until their blue in the face…
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Gotta correct the mistakes. Most important. You can have all the God given talent, but if you cant correct the mistakes, it haunts any team.
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Yea what did we have 10 penalties last week
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Ugh brutal isn't it
I felt the same way. Growing pains…….
I often wonder with the holding penalties if the O line is scared to let Matt get hit so they figure what the hell, I will take this guy to the ground and hope I don’t get caught.
I mean I feel like Backus reputation has been forever killed for letting Peppers get Matt even though for the most part he as been at least average in pass protection
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
Yep. Multiple penalties particularly holding and personal fouls will hurt big time.
Hard to believe when Brandon Jacobs was taunting like a fool in the endzone for a long time doesn’t get flagged.
But of course when Malcolm Jenkins makes a perfectly clean hit he get’s flagged. So did Roby for “Minor” trash talking.
And the “soft” hit shortly on Manning right when ball was released. Flagged. Refs suck balls this season
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Refs have been unbelievably brutal
I feel like when you have the commentators calling them out as much as they have this season you know something is wrong
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
Yep
But guess who get’s the least flags called. Brady and the Patriots
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Can I get some of that too?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I heard he practiced today without a splint or glove.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
yup
So if he continues to stink it up the glove can not be blamed. We will have to see.
I would be thrilled if he came out fast and ready to play from the very start. He seems to have an issue with starting out really slow.
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Update on Suh
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that Lions DT Ndamukong Suh’s suspension appeal will be heard on Thursday.
The hearing will take place at 3PM ET, and Art Shell will be the appeals officer. Suh is trying to get his two-game suspension reduced to one week. Regardless, he is not going to be available for Sunday’s game against New Orleans.
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All this talk and nothing about Stafford glove coming off for this game
Here’s some food for thought
Stafford’s TD to INT rate before the glove came on
19TD to 4INT’s
Stafford’s TD to INT rate after the gloves came of
7TD to 9INT’s
My 1st retort to that would be it’s his 1st game with his gloves off, well if he’s been sitting this entire time I would favor that but since he’s been playing there should be no worry of rust.
Lions 4-1 on the road this year with all the experts favoring the the Saints
In my view were playing with house money for this game, no one really expects us to win, with Stafford not wearing his gloves I expect him to be more like the 19 TD to 4 INT Stafford and really fling the football. Suh being out a game or two doesn’t scare me at all, we have one of the deepest D-line in the NFL. This is a perfect chance for Williams, Hill and Fairly to shine for the next game or two.
And I claiming a Lions win, NO!!!!!!!!! but if you don’t put us away fast and let us hang around we could be a very dangerous team. Even more dangerous if Houston and Smith suit up for the game!!!
Looking forward to Sunday’s game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hey man
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One more comment
Does it scare you to think that we have pulled off three comebacks of 19 points or more this season? Two of which were away games for us.
Not really…mainly because we’re a second half team. If you guys fall behind early, don’t expect Payton to take his foot off the pedal until we’re up by 20 with a minute to go.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 1, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
I believe that would be over-coming 17+ in the 2nd half, three times
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by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 1, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Di you watch monday night
It doesnt matter what the score is Payton never takes his foot off the gas peddle
He expects to score every time we get the ball whether wer up by 3 or 30 he plays till the end
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Not quite true…he did call three really bad no nothing plays in a row that wound up with a three and out after we were up significantly. But I believe the next play was the bomb to Cruz…he kind of turned it back up a notch after that.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
He was taking his pain medicine during that set of downs
Carmichael called those plays lol
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Does it scare you to think that we have pulled off three comebacks of 19 points or more this season? Two of which were away games for us.
You’re a dangerous team no doubt. Hope Saints can stay focused and not give up big plays in the second half. That 80 yard bomb we gave up to the Giants in the 4th quarter was sickening. And I believe this game will be high scoring. Hope the D can tighten up
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Secondary shakey?
I see on here that saints fans are accepting that we’ll be able to move the ball, is that the secondary’s problem or Dline?
And what did the rams do well in that game. The only way i can feel you can stop brees is if he is pressured like mad.
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The Rams game
One of our O’line was out and Charles Brown was replacement. Which was an Epic Fail job. The defense did a terrible job. Blocked punt. Honestly, I think coaching overlooked that game “expecting to win” was a huge factor. Cleveland last season, Arizona, and that horrific defensive performance against Seattle.
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Oh and Stephen Jackson...Who always gives us fits
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In your defense
He gives a lot of teams fits. Great runner.
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He is that
He could play for my team anytime.
Imagine having Jackson, Sproles, Pierre, and Ingram on the same team?
STOUT!!!
And we got a solid RB corps who can do a lot of things on offense
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If we are going to play the imagine game
We get jackson. You already have enough horses in that backfield. All we have are a couple worn down donkeys, a lame pinto and a 4 cylinder mustang.
Yeah, I am calling imaginary dibs!
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And we’ll take DeMarcus Ware and Jason Pierre-Paul since we have no pass rush.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 1, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
And we’ll take DeMarcus Ware and Jason Pierre-Paul since we have no pass rush
Agreed! Add Dwight freeney to the list
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You don't need him. Ivory is a 4th stringer who could probably start for us right now,
Did you guys see the size of that chicken?
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Well the good news about that is he could probably start for a lot of teams
The bad news is he will probably be a free agent or trade bait next year
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
If you are talking about Ivory
We have him on the cheap. Contract details are as follows:
Chris Ivory:
4/27/2010: Signed a three-year, $1.220 million contract. The deal included a $5,000 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: Restricted Free Agent
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Yea but I dont see us keeping 4 RB's next year
Sproles stays
Ingram 1st round pick stays
PT all around back stays
I’m afraid Ivory is the odd man out which sucks because I really like him
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Possibly
But I think they do keep 4. No reason to let him go unless they get a great offer. He is a proven back with a powerful running style. Unless Payton loosens the reigns on Ingram and he turns out to be a do-it-all back, I see Ivory staying.
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Our secondary isn’t terribly at all. Both starting corners are average to above average with Greer actually being a very solid corner. Where Jenkins hasn’t lived up to potential he’s still a better starting free safety than 2/3 of the league. The issue with our secondary is the pass rush. No pass rush means we have to blitz constantly which forces our secondary into a lot of man coverages or rolling safeties. Because of it they play a bit lose to try and protect themselves. As to what the Rams did well…they got to Brees in under 1.5 seconds pretty much every snap. Our tackles couldn’t handle their speed rush.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Do you think we'll be able to limit your offense the way we did with GB?
We held them to 7 at half and they scored on short-fields from turnovers and after we lost our 2 best pass defenders + Suh in the 2nd half. Hopefully Houston and Delmas will play this week and Fairley can fill in well for Suh.
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As awesome as Houston's numbers are.
I’m still firmly of the belief that Wright is better.
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by TheLoneDavid on Dec 1, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
It all depends on who wins the battle at the line of scrimmage. That is a strength versus strength battle. I am honestly curious if Payton might not be planning on running some draws to try to neutralize your pass rush.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 1, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
It’s possible…but I worry about your secondary’s ability to cover when we spread out with 4 WRs and Graham. If you can get to us with your four guys only…yes you can stop us. If not, the game will probably wind up being a shootout.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
I've been
a huge fan of the Saints ever since the 2006 draft when you picked up Reggie Bush (my all time favorite college player). I’ve always been a diehard of the Lions, but I didn’t have a “B” team, so I started following them closely, and ever since then I’ve been hooked. While I only went through 1 year of Saints misery, I’m glad that I’m not one of those that hopped on the bandwagon after their SB victory, and I got a little taste of what my team winning the superbowl would be like. I wish you guys luck throughout the season, I can tell from this thread and from canal st chronicles that you have a class act fanbase, can’t wait for sunday!
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
Reggie Bush
He should have to explain to the players at USC why there not able to play in a bowl game this year. : (
While i've lost the respect for Reggie I once had
I decided to stick with the Saints as my permanent B team
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
I’m glad that y’all have been able to rid yourself of the ill effects of the Matt Millen era. I honestly don’t understand how his tenure lasted as long as it did.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 1, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
No one did
Except William Clay Ford. I don’t even think Millen understood it. But then again, he obviously doesn’t understand much.
by Dave Marshall on Dec 1, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
One of our former stellar head coaches
Darryl Rogers once asked: "What does a guy have to do to get fired around here. Millen proved the answer was a lot.
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by Justan Oldfart on Dec 1, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
How's Turk McBride doing this year?
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He hasn’t seen a lot of playing time, except for when Will Smith was suspended the first two games. He has 4 tackles, 2 sacks and one forced fumble.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 1, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
imo he should see more.
Good depth guy you can rotate in there who will not only help keep Smith fresh for the 4q he’ll make some plays along the way.
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by Justan Oldfart on Dec 1, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t say why they haven’t done so…it isn’t like we don’t need help rushing the QB,
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 1, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Not feeling positive about this game
Which is ironic because everytime I don’t feel good about us going into a game we win (normally from a come from behind fashion that pisses me off the first half of the game) but when I’m really hyped about a game we blow it. We’re really hurting without houston and suh. In a masochistic sense I kind of want us to bomb so I can quote the Diddly Poo rant for a week like I did when the Seahawks upset you guys last year in the Playoffs(!?)..it would be karmic retribution to some extent.
http://youtu.be/pswyAbitx7U
Either way here’s hoping for a good game. Feebly probably.
Will Calvin get the bracket coverage he usually gets
or because of the blitz, will he see more one on ones? Linehan likes to move him around and even put him in the slot to get him matchups, but most teams play cover 2 shell with their safeties as a response…
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The Saints will probably roll coverage to him off of a safety or corner blitz etc. He’ll see his share of single coverage stuff on occasion, but I doubt he’ll see too much of it. The Saints do a lot of exotic blitzes mixes pocket zones and man coverage on various sides at the same time.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

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