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Detroit Lions to sign Kevin Smith, 'bout time.


I know there were (are) some Kevin Smith haters out there, but when you look at the run game we have had without him, you have to admit, he was pretty good.  

Back when we signed Bell and Harrison, I thought why?  Smith knows the offense and I am pretty sure he is better than those cast offs.  I still think that.  I don't dislike Keiland  Williams though, he has improved to a point, where in place of Mikel Leshoure, he should be a Lion.  But if Best can't go this year we need Kevin Smith.  He knows the offense and hasn't really had the pleasure to be part of the team with a healthy and experienced Stafford.  I hope Kevin stayed in shape because I would like to reaping dividends as soon as possible.

Smith started the first year with the Lions in 2008. In case you don't remember the Lions sucked.  Kevin Smith ran just short of 1,000 with a 4.1 yard average and 8 TD's.  Along with that, he caught 39 for almost 300 yards and had 6.9 yards after the catch. That is with an O line worse than we have now.as a rookie.  I don't care what anyone says, when he came to the Lions he was a great, not elite but great running back.  

I posted an article earlier this year referring to my distrust in the Lions RB coach, Sam Gash.

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/8/30/2392795/does-detroit-ruin-their-running-backs

All starting running backs in Detroit last around a year or less. What's the common denominator?  

I am glad other teams haven't realized that THIS Detroit Lions cast off has ability and a few years left.  Like they did with Cory Redding, James Hall, Shaun Cody, Gerald Alexander, Andre Goodman, John McGraw and countless others who were deemed bad players in Detroit when the problem was coaching and the talent around them.  

Now we have a coaching staff, hopefully one with a new-found trust in Smith, and the talent on both sides of the ball. I am glad Kevin Smith has the opportunity to be a part of the Lions again.

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taking a wait and see approach

but if he is healthy I think theres a oppertunity for him to do something. But no back will be succesful unless we start blocking. Bringing in Big Daddy Davis may help Kevin and the rest of our backs become a threat

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by The Profiler on Nov 7, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

Yup, me too.

I like Kevin Smith, but he has to show something for it to matter. I am past rooting for guys just because I like them. On this team they have to produce.

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by TuffLynx on Nov 8, 2011 5:28 AM EST up reply actions  

very true...


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by Bret Crino on Nov 7, 2011 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

Injury and piss poor blocking were the problems with K-Smooth all along

Bringing him back, presumably healthy and in shape, now, with a great passing team around him, sounds like a very solid move to me. He is a good receiver out of the backfield, and he doesn’t have to hit any homeruns. All he has to do is carry the rock for 3-5 yards at a time, catch the ball when it is thrown at him, and do a little blocking now and then. He’s young, and has potential still. Maurice Morris will not last forever. Eldra Buckley was never meant to see the field as a RB. Keiland Williams has been a solid 3rd down back. Kevin Smith can be a workhorse. When the Lion’s drafted him, he was expected to be that workhorse. Now he doesn’t have to be, because there is a plethura of talent around him to take away all of that pressure. He could very well flourish once again, like he did as a rookie. If he even sees moderate success, it will open all kinds of doors in the passing game. I like the move, and I agree with you here.

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by KDawg on Nov 7, 2011 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

I like the move

But if they want to run the ball there gonna have to commit to a running game, this means givng Williams, Morris or Smith the carries they will need to make a difference.

by msivits on Nov 7, 2011 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

Amazing results on the poll

Look up some past threads about Smith, maybe my view is slanted, but I recall myself being one of the only people in favor of bringing him back this year…

I guess we did lose 2 starting caliber RBs, but my thoughts initially were that I’d have to deal with the Smith backlash all over again. Glad to be wrong. Smith deserves to be on this team, and should absolutely be kept over a guy like Buckley.

My only question is, what number will he sport? Williams took #34.

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by Nate D. on Nov 7, 2011 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

I agree, last year i was arguing up hill about Smith

I think I heard he will take #30


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by Bret Crino on Nov 7, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Uggg

I am not pleased. This says a whole hell of a lot more about Best’s condition than it does about Smith being ready to contribute.

I hope I am wrong, I always loved his passion and fearless running style. I also remember him being run into the ground his senior year at UF (? I think) something like 400+ carries. This guy lost all his explosion in his first step and all I remember is his tripping over his own shoe strings, being taken down with arm tackles and running up the rear end of our O line.

The good news. I am not expecting much of anything from him. So any production would be a positive in my mind.

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by joshsun on Nov 7, 2011 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

you are absolutely correct...except for the school

UCF ran him into the ground.

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by Twincities88 on Nov 7, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He was elusive and smooth in college just like at Detroit in 08.

He broke down as a Lion and because of the Lions. It had nothing to do with college.


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by Bret Crino on Nov 8, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

It had everything to do with college

He came to the NFL as a 28 year old RB in a 22 year old body

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by Twincities88 on Nov 8, 2011 7:12 AM EST up reply actions  

So did Ray Rice, Emmit Smith, Marcus Allen, Ladainain Tomlinson, Ricky Williams and Matt Forte.

Not buying it. He wasn’t a “burst Guy” in college so his “burst” didn’t disappear, it was never there. Similar to Forte who isn’t a “burst” guy.


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by Bret Crino on Nov 8, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

how many of those players carried the ball 400+ times in their senior season?

He was abused in college.

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by joshsun on Nov 8, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

During his junior year KSmooth set a major college record of 450 rushing attempts, topping the previous record 405 carries by Marcus Allen (USC) (a guy you mentioned) and falling just 62 yards shy of setting the NCAA season-rushing record of 2,628 yards set by Barry Sanders (Oklahoma State) in 1988. UCF pushed him to that so they could have that label with the football program

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by Twincities88 on Nov 8, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

-1 & -1 Marcus Allen with 433 including behind the line passes.

He played for how many seasons in the NFL? The others I mention were all work horses in the high 300’s. Most of them against LB’s and safeties with more size and speed than Smith faced. Kevin Smith didn’t enter the NFL damaged goods, that’s ridiculous. He became damaged goods AT Detroit. A knee injury slowed him. He could have rushed 20 times in college and a knee injury would have slowed him. You are blaming UCF for Detroit’s running game, cmon man. Illinois and Cal fucked us harder if you want go that route.


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by Bret Crino on Nov 9, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy was productive when healthy

If he can stay on the field, he can be a contributor.

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by atvman on Nov 7, 2011 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

I have been in KSmoove's corner until...

he said that crap about Miami coming to get him. After that he pretty much lost me. Now I am just going to wait to see what he brings to the team.

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by TuffLynx on Nov 8, 2011 5:31 AM EST reply actions  

Kevin may be a better blocker and receiver than runner.

He did work hard on improving those parts of his game while with the Lions in 2008. I am not sold on him at all as a runner. No explosion, or power. I would take his 2008 stats with a grain of salt, the Lions seemed to be playing against prevent defences for pretty much the whole second half of most games that year. Our opponents seemed more than willing to give up some rushing yards as opposed to a big play by Calvin.

I asked this before, did Kevin play on special teams at all? I did not think so since he was mostly our #1 RB. He might have some value there.

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by NorthLeft12 on Nov 8, 2011 7:36 AM EST reply actions  

I am not aware of him playing special teams in his last trip with us

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by joshsun on Nov 8, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he was ever a special teamer.


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by Bret Crino on Nov 8, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember the debates we had about this guy? Oh the many threads ha.

Good times.

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by Lionsfan8 on Nov 8, 2011 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

Middle of the road

I’m not jumping for joy
I’m not kicking my wifes cat
I’m wait and see

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by seabeeruss on Nov 8, 2011 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

just so we're clear...

Do you kick your wife’s cat when you’re happy or sad?

’Cause depending on the cat, that might be a pretty good celebration.

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by UndaDawg on Nov 8, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

When

Happy – pooch kick

Sad – J Money from 50+

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by seabeeruss on Nov 8, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Slowest footed back that I have ever seen. This guy has no burst, and it takes nothing to bring him down.

He’s left a 1000 yards of open field offense on the field by being brought down with shoestring tackles after 2 yard runs.

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by delusional on Nov 8, 2011 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

I admit he has been tackled many times by the first hit but slowest footed rb?

It’s called fluidity.


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by Bret Crino on Nov 9, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, like cold maple syrup.

Kevin looked okay as a rookie in 2008, but he did not look very good running the ball in 2009 or 2010.

He was a good surprise as a pass blocker and receiver so he does have some value, but I have to agree that his lack of explosion really cost him some big gains. And he does not have the power to cut through weak tackles.

Hopefully, the time off from football has allowed him to fully heal and he can contribute in a reserve/third down role. I think he can.

My 2011 Lions season prediction: 12 wins and 4 losses. I made this prediction the week after the New England preseason game. It's looking slightly optimistic right now.

by NorthLeft12 on Nov 10, 2011 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Assuming all his ligaments and tendons hold up

I think K Smooth could become a solid Kevin Faulk-esque player for us. Mikel LeShoure/Jahvid Best/Kevin Smith/Keiland Williams is a pretty damn impressive backfield.

I think you guys are wrong about his speed/power. While I will concede he’s not gonna outrun a lot of safeties/truck a lot of lb’s, I think he’s fast enough to make good plays and his vision and shiftiness more than compensate for his speed. However, a huge part of Kevin’s game relies on his knees being able to support him on his cuts and jukes, and after tearing his ACL I question whether he is still as quick.

by Kalzilla on Nov 10, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

I agree with the second part of your statement but it I personally believe it was his knee that slowed him but in ten when he came back he was noticeably the best back we had by far and better than we have had since.


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by Bret Crino on Nov 10, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

With a due respect....

The word fluidity and Kevin Smith shouldn’t even been in the room together…….NL might of nailed it though, this move could be noting more then bringing him in for additional blocking for Stafford, as KS is a very good pass blocker and noting more then another weapon to assist in the passing game.

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by delusional on Nov 10, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

So you can say with a srtaight face,

That Best, Keiland, Harrison, and/or either Bell are better NFL runners than Smith???? Craziness I tell ya, Craziness!!!


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by Bret Crino on Nov 10, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Wonder why noody else gave him a shot?

There are thirty-one other teams and one in particular [the Browns] that are desperate at RB right now. You would have thought that one of them would have shown some interest.

My 2011 Lions season prediction: 12 wins and 4 losses. I made this prediction the week after the New England preseason game. It's looking slightly optimistic right now.

by NorthLeft12 on Nov 10, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Couldn't tell you, but I hope we can show them their mistake.

Same with OL Davis


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by Bret Crino on Nov 10, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it is up to Kevin to show them what they missed out on.

From everything I have heard, he worked very hard to continue to rehabilitate himself and stay/get in great shape since he was let go by the Lions. I have never questioned his desire to improve and do well, but you do have to have some physical ability to be successful as an RB at this level.

My 2011 Lions season prediction: 12 wins and 4 losses. I made this prediction the week after the New England preseason game. It's looking slightly optimistic right now.

by NorthLeft12 on Nov 11, 2011 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed


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by Bret Crino on Nov 13, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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