Three Former Lions Could Experience Another 0-16 Season
by Sean Yuille on Dec 1, 2011 3:17 PM EST
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PrintWith five games to play, the Indianapolis Colts sit at 0-11. Without Peyton Manning, they have gone from being one of the best teams in the league to by far the worst, and 0-16 is well within sight. The Colts still have to play the Patriots, Ravens, Titans, Texans and Jaguars, and only one of those games (against Jacksonville) seems winnable.
The Lions are the only team in NFL history to go 0-16. They set the record for mediocrity in 2008, and three players on that year's team are now on this year's Colts squad. Dan Orlovsky is set to start for Indianapolis at quarterback this Sunday and is still looking for his first career win. Linebacker Ernie Sims is part of a Colts defense that is giving up close to 30 points a game. Finally, fullback Jerome Felton was just claimed off waivers by the Colts after the Panthers released him.
As a Lions fan that had to experience the awfulness of a 0-16 season, I'm a bit conflicted on what I want to see happen with this year's Colts. On the one hand, having another team go 0-16 would at least give the Lions some company in the "worst team ever" discussion, and they would no longer be the only franchise that comes to mind when you see 0-16. Then again, 2008 was so painful that you almost don't want to wish it on any franchise's fans. (I say almost because what Lions fan wouldn't enjoy seeing the Bears go winless?)
I don't have anything against Colts fans and I don't think guys like Orlovsky and Sims deserve to be part of the wrong side of history again. At the same time, though, it's not like Colts fans have had to deal with a ton of losing. They were just in a Super Bowl a couple years ago, so at least they have some recent success to point to if 0-16 does happen. Keeping that in mind, I guess I would say I do hope the Colts go winless simply so the 2008 Lions don't stand alone in the record books for losing. What do you guys think?
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I don't want to see anyone go 0-16
It suck so much for the players to work so hard and not come away with a single win. At least let them win one.
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by n4ry4 on Dec 1, 2011 3:21 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Meh
Thats their turd to step in. I almost don’t want them to do it because I feel like we had to work hard for that oh-fer. I mean, we had to let Millen run the show for a decade to get down to that point and these guys just waltz in and do it with one guy on the sidelines? No fair.
I do feel bad for the 3 guys from the Lions who have to deal with this crap again.
by ATL Lion on Dec 1, 2011 3:31 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Very funny
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I could care less if they do or don't.
Their fanbase doesn’t need it. They have been so dominant that it may seem worse than then Detroit did it. Plus you know if they do when the debate comes, and it will, the Lions will be deemed worse. The Colts were a healthy Payton Manning away from around 10 wins. You put Payton on the 08 Lions I’m not sure they get 10. They could though because he would have made Calvin a bigger beast than he was in the first 5 games this year.
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by Enforcer on Dec 1, 2011 3:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
So your saying..Manning for MVP!
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Could make a case for it.
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by Enforcer on Dec 2, 2011 7:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
My buddy has been saying this all season.
I totally concur.
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I donly want them to do it
Just so the Lions aren’t the only team in history.
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WTF is Donly?
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OHHHHHHH.
Well then, Screw you!
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No, thanks
Unless you’re a really hot female…
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Definitely not, lol
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No team, no fan base, no one
deserves to have this happen to them. Remember how the season of tears felt? Damn near 60% of the responders want other people to feel that same way? WTF people.
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by joshsun on Dec 1, 2011 3:40 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
and people around here call me a douche?!?!
wow
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by joshsun on Dec 1, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If it makes you feel better
King Douche?
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sir douche-a-lot?
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Douche McAllister.
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Not so much anymore. From me at least but here ya go anyway.
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by Enforcer on Dec 2, 2011 7:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's a little different with the Colts...
Because if Manning is able to come back, they’ll be competitive. With the Lions it looked as if all was lost.
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He's insane if he comes back
and I seriously doubt he’ll be back after that surgery.
Y would he be insane to come back?
Many NLF players have had that surgery and still play…Steve Slaton, a RB, Ex-Colt DB, who plays for ATL now, Kelvin Hayden.
People hear neck and back and expect the worst.
Peyton has NERVE damage, not bone or spinal damge that could render him handicapped if hit to hard, NERVE damage guys.
Nerves very greatly in how they regenerate, its not like a bone break where the estimates for healing generally are the same for everyone
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Yeah, he made his stacks of cash
and he got his ring
Why come back? To wallow on a depleted bad team for another year taking hits and reminding people he used to be better.
If you guys think Peyton Manning retires from play after that surgery, you're batshit.
no fucking way. He’ll be back.
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Then I'm batshit crazy
Every down the colts play is another reason he doesn’t need to sully his HOF resume by trying to make a comeback with these jokers. Look at McNabb and how he has torpedoed his HOF shot with poor play on worse teams these last two years.
And that doesn’t even touch the whole “disabled for life” angle of the risk of reinjury.
Peyton's too much of a competitor. I bet he comes back.
Maybe asks for a trade, but I just don’t see him hangin ’em up quite yet.
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I'm with you on this
well except the trade part, unless they draft Luck. He’d have to not be recovered as expected to not come back imo.
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I merely included the trade part to tie in with ATL's idea
that Manning would consider retirement before playing with such a poor team, at his age/recovery situation.
I don’t expect him to do it, but who knows.
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by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 9, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks 4 dat dude, alot of pent up hate here, Suh's rubbing off on some
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Suh's rubbing off on some
whatever
"I like to win all the time, so all the time I play with myself."
hahahahahahahahahaha
I admit I was beign a hypocrite for that, just wanted to set somone off who voted for teh Cotls to lose
I’ve actually been one of his biggest Defenders and excuse makers. Even blew up a little bit at the bar Thanksgiving eve at some guys who were sitting next us who repeating the tired ole media mantra on him..set them str8 or at least in my mind i did. ;)
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You did not set me off
The Colts are where they are because of bad thinkning.
!. Bad coach
2. Bad #2 qb
3. Bad drafts
so
hahahahhahahahhahahaha
the Lions can sustain the loss of Suh, the Colts can’t overcome the loss of Dungy
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Thankinsgiving eve?
what’s that, a party in your moms basement,
I ment your house?
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Agreed 100%
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Pretty sure having your team win a Super Bowl recently helps numb a lot of that.
Plus, they know they’ll either have Peyton back next year or Andrew Luck beginning his future. We didn’t have an end in sight to the suckage.
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I don’t wish the OwenXI on any team. Even a team that WON the Superbowl a few years ago (at least it was against the Bears). Yeah, it took 10 years with Millen at the helm to run the Detroit ship to shore (Exxon Valdiez, anyone?) & only an injury to one player to sink the Colts ship. Personally, I feel that the injury to Peyton could have been minimized by ending the lockout a few months earlier & allowing him to see his trainers.
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by Detroitfantc on Dec 1, 2011 6:45 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don't get this whole "Colts are 0-11 because of Manning thing"
Fact: the Colts defense is giving up 29.7 points a game. Even if the Colts were to average 30 points a game, they would still lose quite a few games this year.
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true....but.....
if your offence cant move the ball or score points you are generally giving up good field position and probably turning the ball over quite frequently puts your defence in a difficult situation to begin with so the points against could change with peyton keeping their offence on the field and flipping field position more consistently
They did it for Savy, they did it for Horton, they did it for each other, they did it for us. I give you the 2011 Stanley Cup Champions....The Boston Bruins!!
The defense was a issue before too
This is nothing new.
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Not saying it wasn't
but not having Peyton is an issue that also does contribute to them being put in worse positions then previous seasons
They did it for Savy, they did it for Horton, they did it for each other, they did it for us. I give you the 2011 Stanley Cup Champions....The Boston Bruins!!
Exactly
Only an evil bastard could wish that on someone. Besides, it’d be our luck to have one record and have that taken away from us too.
by fiendishdr.wu on Dec 1, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get it
Is sports a thing where we want the opposing fan base to feel good? If that was the case, then we should hope that the Lions don’t win on Sunday because Saints fans are gonna feel bad about losing. Now, I don’t wish bad on anyone or anything, but we, Lions fans, will ALWAYS get mocked for being having a franchise go 0-16, rightfully or not. If a heralded team like the Colts go 0-16, especially just two years after the Lions did, it takes a ton of mockery off of our franchise, and I want that.
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The Colts have nothing to do with us from a record standpoint
If it was week 17 and they played us in their last chance to get a win then “Sorry Indy”. But that’s not the case.
by fiendishdr.wu on Dec 2, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Does Manning get beheaded or something if they go 0-16?
Guess I’m missing why this is so wrong.
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I'm torn
on one side it would be nice to not be the only team mentioned in that discussion. the flip side is that right now they are the only team mentioned so it is a record they have all to themselves. yes it is for futility, but it is there.
That said, with regards to the Colts… I could care less about them and their fans. if the team goes 0-16 so be it.
There are worse tragedies.
About Felton
Are the Colts searching the waiver wire for any ex 08 Lions so they can make the same dream team? I wonder if they know they could grab Culpepper?
I feel bad for the 3 former Lions
The Colts not as much. They would probably be a playoff team this year with Peyton Manning healthy considering that the Texans are down to their 3rd string QB now.
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ALL of you who voted for the Colts to go 0-16, Go FUCK yoursleves!
No one will SERIOUSLY compare the two cuz the Colts lost theit future HOF’er, their FIELD GNERAL for the entire season, we had our starting QB for half that season and we were STILL absolutely awful.
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hahaha
You’re funny man. I like your style. But I still want your team to lose.
+1
It must suck for COlts fans, but this is about NOT being the only 0-16 team in NFL HISTORY
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wipe off your chin and let the team do the sucking.
by chuckrocks on Dec 1, 2011 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ah, one of the classy posters who probably added to the "ask a GB fan" post deleted
The Bears are looking for a-holes for their fan base, you’d fit in puuurfectly
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your posting contradictions
And that means you say pm is the field general and the only reason they could win, but then say the team is loaded with talent. So sorry sparky, but unlike your dad on family night- you can’t get it both ways.
by chuckrocks on Dec 1, 2011 5:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Obviously you have no clue how that Offense is run
and the Front Office foolishly assumed Peyton would NEVER get hurt, so they didnt have a quality back-up.
Curtis Painter is at best a 3rd string back-up on the Lions squad. Most likely he gets cut after the 2nd set of pre-season cuts. He sucks
I’ve actually been calling for Orlovsky to start for weeks now, its that bad at the QB position there.
Oh, and the post you mentioned, I was comparing the Colts now to that awful Lions team which was waaaayyy worse
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wellll, they never got clocked for 62pts.
NO got us for 35, not 55. Is there a difference? Not really. Winless is just that. Sorry your team is not good.
As madden would say ahem, madden voice: “A W is a W and an L is an L, and right now, the colts have more Ls than Ws. They either have to put more points on the board, or stop the other guys from scoring in order to get more Ws.”
No arguement to make.
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by chuckrocks on Dec 1, 2011 6:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was at that game
And home before the start of the second half……and that’s with a 30 minute drive.
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damn
Didn’t wait for the rally? My previous got deleted. I was refering to being stuck in arkansas that year and getting shit from the yokels. In no way implying I was yucking it up, I’m innocent, lol! Not a day worth chewing through the restraints.
by chuckrocks on Dec 2, 2011 11:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh and I NEVER said he was the only reson they could win, you made that assumption
to fit your arguement
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you may not have said it....
but you know its true, and if you are in denile over that fact than tell me, why havent they won without him?
by Lefty_Detroit on Dec 1, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
I feel you Joshsun....
I don’t wish it on the Colts. The entire organazation has always had a lot of class imo. From Bill Pollian all the way down to the fans. Now if it were the Patriots, Jets, Bears, Chargers, ( I can’t stand Phillip Rivers cry baby bitch ass) Cowboys. or any team Mark Sanchez plays for I can’t tell you I would feel the same.
I mean can any of us really say with a straight face that we would not wish it on the Jets or the Bears? I cant.
"That's my quarterback man"- T.O.
by Lionking4420 on Dec 1, 2011 4:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The Bears are a TOTALLY different story, their fans are the biggest a-holes
But then again, Pats fans arent wishing their hatred rival goes 0-16, because its KILLS the meaning of the rivalry.
Seriously b4 Saturday I wasstartig to get more amped up for MSU games then the games against the Suckeyes..GO BLUE!
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I'l be real
what Joshhuan said really resonated with me. To want another team to go 0-16 is a harsh thing to ask for, that was the hardest time to be a lion fan, it really was. We made our bed and by God did we sleep in it, from top to bottom those 08 lions were a MESS.
Having said that, my only reservation is that if the colts do go 0-16, it would prove two things. A) Without Manning the colts are a bunch of win-nothings, and B)Even a team that reached the pinnacle of success(aka, superbowl) can fall rock bottom into the cellar. This proves that no matter what team you are, the best (colts) or the worst (lions) you can have a shitty season.
by Usman 'Uzi' Altafullah on Dec 1, 2011 4:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I serioulsy diasgree with the win-nothings, the problem is Peyton IS the OFFENSE
Hes the OC as well as the QB, hes irreplaceable, even Brady couldnt run that O like #18 does…the coaching staff in Indy is ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE right now, nothing but placeholders in charge.
Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Jeff Saturday, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, plus #18, and you get guys all in the leagues Top100 according to the players…Dont forget about Pro-bowler Antoine Bethea, deep threat speedster Pierre Garcon and one of the best slot Wr’s in Austin Collie and 2nd year Mike, Pat Angerer, who leads the ENTIRE NFL in tackles..We also have a pretty MEAN punter in McAfee, LOL
Yeah, no talent there, none at all
And dont forget Ernie Simms, J/K!
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This season just shows that Bill Polian has been as bad a GM as Millen was.
It’s pretty obvious now that Polian never made the drafts and moves that would have kept the Colts fresh as contenders. In the end, the only thing keeping the team out of the basement was Manning.
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I should have added.
Yes, all those Pro Bowl players, but Wayne, Freeney, Saturday and Clark are all getting old. Clark hasn’t approached his pre-injury ability. They stuck with Bob Sanders far too long. The middle of the D-line is weak. The secondary stinks — when was the last time the Colts had a safety worth talking about? The LB corps is a joke except for Angerer.
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Not true
Millen WASTED top 5 -10 picks on the regular,
During that time period of the last 10 years the lowest the Cotls picked was 12th, guess who they picked with that, another future HOf’er, Dwight Freeney.
Concerning your post below, your are rigth or close to it on many counts, they ARE OLD and the secondary is pathetic,(though Antoine Bethea is a totally underated SS, IMO)
My point is this ’11 Colts team is still WAAAY better than that ’08 Lions team
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I meant post below your original post
Not the actual ass clown whose post is below this one
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Hey, even Millen managed to get one right with Calvin Johnson.
And of his nine 1st round picks, 6 of them are still starters (including Ernie Sims, lol).
His busts were pretty spectacular though, especially at QB, and that’s partly why we loathe him.
The other half of the problem is recruiting depth. That’s what separates the good GMs from the bad ones. And that’s what Millen’s, and I’m guessing Polian’s, real failures were. You can get a few All-Pros on your team, but if there’s nothing behind them, the team is an injury away from total collapse. What if the Colts had had a Joey Harrington instead of Manning?
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You are exactly right about Millen & depth.
The draft, especially Rounds 2-7, are where you build depth. Millen was an abject failure at that. I went through and looked at the draft picks one time. Pretty much, if somebody had any decent playing time in Detroit in the past decade, I remember them. I went through some of these guys, and went “WHO?!?”. So if I don’t know who the hell they are, then they are incredibly insignificant.
(Surprisingly enough, Millen’s last draft was decent. Gosder, K-Smoove, Fluellen, and Avril are all still on the team and contributing quite a bit.)
by tmyers09 on Dec 1, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for saying the only thing positive about Matt Millen I have ever agreed with................
seriously.
"That's my quarterback man"- T.O.
Are you comparing Millen in a positive light of any kind?!
Hey, even Millen managed to get one right with Calvin Johnson.
Even a blind man hits the hole sometimes, doesn’t mean you call him cured and give him a drivers license.
I want it
colts fans are soulless pricks who in my personal experience have made fun of me for the Lions being 0-16 the deserve it for karma’s sake
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by Brad Wesley James Hines on Dec 1, 2011 5:14 PM EST reply actions
EVERY teams fans made fun of us, GET OVER IT!
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Dude, you're going to get shit for awhile...
until you win a game.
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i just hate the colts, if you grew up a lions fan in indiana you would too trust me
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by Brad Wesley James Hines on Dec 12, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure they were all laughing at us.
I’m pretty sure some of us were laughing at ourselves to stay sane.
I am in full support of 0-16 for Colts
all of the time I had to listen to Joe Buck suck on Colt Co%k on nationa TV they deserve what they are getting. Wheres Joe Buck now? Oh ya..he moved on to GB Co%k and Saint Co%k. That Joe Buck guy is such a Co%kSucker.
Oh ya, Jerome “I’m not happy in Detroit and when I get the ball I fumble” Felton really deserves it.
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Hi gang
I’ve been reading the board for a while, and thought I’d join to throw my 2 cents in once in a while.
I don’t wanna see the Colts go 0 and 16, that is OUR record and I want to keep it. How many negative records did we break in all? If I remember right, we set an away game losing streak, only to break it ourselves.
I don’t want any other team (except maybe Dallas) to diminish our decade of suck, it took a fair amount of work and planning to create….it is thing of legend.
Don’t get wrong, I’m not at all happy about it, 10 years of being “cautiously optimistic” at the start of the year, only to end up in the shower after games trying to wash the stench of dirty disappointment.
I hope the Colts get at least 1 W, but even if they don’t, they can’t understand what we went through under Millen.
This season was the first time I wasn’t cautiously optimistic, but filled with real optimism of having a winning team.
I still think we will be, although 8 and 8 would be disappointing, we are a better team than that.
Now when I tell people I’m a Lions fan, they don’t point and laff, they give a nervous look, like I’m gonna go all Suh or Schwartz on ’em lol.
by GrumpyOldMan on Dec 1, 2011 8:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yea
I want them to go 0-16 but don’t want Andrew Luck to fall in their lap. They shouldn’t be rewarded with a (potentially) phenomenal QB for when Peyton retires.
Don't care either way.
because if you think more than a handful of Colts fans cared when Detroit went 0-16, you’re full of shit.
Don’t care either way. I don’t wanna hear
the players don’t deserve itUm, yeah, they do deserve it.
If you want to avoid such infamy, you play to win in at least one of your fucking games. You have 16 chances to do so.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Fuck Jim Harbaugh.
Especially in the AFC South
JAX and TEN are liable to suck any week and the football gods just don’t want Houston to win the division.
Fan of the Detroit Tigers, Lions and Red Wings.
Those are my only choices?
Where was the button for %^&* yes?
Never liked the colts or Manning
One putrid 0-16 season doesnt come close to what we as Lions fans have had to endure, Piss on the colts.
Hope they join us with that terrible 0-16 mark
I say fug'em, I hope they do go oh-fer
It wont be nearly as traumatic for that fan base since this is a planned or at least giving up failure as the admin bombs. Ours was out of sheer ineptitude. There’s a lot more of a glimmer of hope for them than there was for us.
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
--> Don't blame the Lions. Blame yourself for not keeping your perspective.
-Tufflynx
Mediocrity?
I think you mean futility or something along those lines.
by Dergunna Wavimin on Dec 2, 2011 5:45 AM EST reply actions
I remember during the latter part of Detroit's 0 - 16 season
and Rome was like, “c’mon guys, don’t let me down.” I was kind of pissed, but kind of didn’t care that he was rooting for it. If I met him today, I wouldn’t be like, “You bastard for rooting for a winless season.” Not that I am a huge fan, either. I don’t see what the big deal is.
Did you guys see the size of that chicken?
Man you guys are just mean...
Pretty teling that a clear majority want Colts fans to get a taste of what we have had to deal with…
What hasnt been said – but, I think should be is how blatantly selfish Peyton Manning is. It is clear to me that one of the primary reasons the Colts suck so bad is that after Peytons salary – they just dont have enough money to be competitive elsewhere and are forced to use 2nd and 3rd tier talent in other positions.
If Peyton was truly a team player, he would have signed for far less money so that the organization had the resources they needed to get good quality personnel in other positions. After all – he is already rich beyond most peoples wildest dreams. How much money does he need to have?
Peyton is a selfish prick. There I said it – because it needed to be said.
Honestly, there was some silver lining for the otherwise woeful 0 - for season
for Detroit. Granted, we had 4 picks in the first three rounds, but they are all starters for us now – Stafford, Pettigrew, Delmas, and Levy. It’s one of the biggest reasons we have a much more competitive team now. It sucks to go through, but if your team drafts well….you probably hit the ground running next year, assuming a healthy Manning.
Did you guys see the size of that chicken?
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