Lions Notes: Jim Schwartz Doesn't Want To Hear About Blown Calls

by Sean Yuille on Dec 12, 2011 2:08 PM EST in Detroit Lions Notes

Jim Schwartz shrugged off a question about the missed facemask call on the final play of Sunday's game by saying this: "All I saw was the ball come out, I haven’t seen the replay. But don’t tell me about getting away with penalties."
DeAndre Levy, who got away with the facemask, had a similar answer to a question about the missed call: "I think they owed us one for the past 12 games."

All I can say is that considering all of the questionable calls the Lions have had to deal with over the last two seasons, it's nice that one finally went their way.
After Sunday's game, Jared Allen said he was just joking when he made his negative comments about Detroit earlier in the week, and he also claimed they were referencing the weather rather than the people in the city. I don't buy it, but I can't say I'm surprised he's now backtracking.
Based on a Twitter exchange between Stefan Logan and Brandon McDonald, it sounds like there's a good chance McDonald will be re-signed with Aaron Berry going down with a shoulder injury on Sunday.
Before yesterday, the Lions hadn't scored 21 points in the first quarter of a game since Dec. 10, 1990, according to ESPN Stats & Info.
Also from ESPN Stats & Info is this interesting tidbit: Before Sunday, the Lions hadn't scored 31 points in the first half of a game since 1985, when they racked up 31 first-half points against the Vikings. The Lions also pulled off that feat in 1981 against the Vikings.
Tim Twentyman notes that the Lions have now scored four touchdowns on interception returns this year, which is their most in one season since 1970 and their second-most in franchise history.
Dave Birkett has a recap of what Roger Goodell had to say to Lions season-ticket holders before Sunday's game.
Luckily this isn't too relevant to Lions fans right now, but SB Nation's first 2012 NFL Mock Draft has Detroit picking 22nd and selecting Ohio State offensive tackle Mike Adams.

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Allen is a tit

and I don’t want to hear about any blown calls either. We got one FINALLY when it mattered. The last one we got a call in our favor was back against the Steelers on Thanksgiving and then back in the 1981’s playoffs when we had 12 men on the field for Murray’s winning field goal against Dallas. We don’t get nearly enough of these.

by weyun on Dec 12, 2011 2:24 PM EST reply actions

His roping the cattle routine

jumped the shark. There are no farms in Minneapolis, what the heck?

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 12, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions

the 22nd pick?

i usually only watch the first 5. gonna have to block out about 8 days to get to 22.

by redwingxviii on Dec 12, 2011 2:25 PM EST reply actions

I don't think

Adams is worth a first round pick.

by weyun on Dec 12, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions

I'd rather have

Konz or Brewster, or maybe even trade up a couple spots for DeCastro.

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by Detroitnr1 on Dec 12, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions

Too early for draft projections

Workouts at Sr Bowl and such will evelate some players and expose others…

by cokolman on Dec 12, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions

I am in 100% agreement with the Schwartz on this one.

They want him to comment on penalties that should have been called on his own team?

My 2011 Lions season prediction: 12 wins and 4 losses. I made this prediction the week after the New England preseason game. Well, so much for that prediction. 10 and 6 anyone?

by NorthLeft12 on Dec 12, 2011 2:51 PM EST reply actions

It's called football kharma...

Tebow knows, that they kinda deserve that 1 after all the imaginary penalties, I mean there’s been several stupid penalties committed, like the 1 on the previous play by Avril…but, hey @ the end of the day…we’ll take it!

by LTownDown on Dec 12, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly

This is us being repaid for the “process” call in week 1 and the 5 free yards they gave to SF earlier this season

by CMUWR12 on Dec 12, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions

*week 1 of last season

but I don’t think that needs clarification…

by CMUWR12 on Dec 12, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions

Everything evens out

winning games in the NFL is hard and the Lions won but the Bears didn’t because my Broncos made Marion Barber fumble! Marion gets all of my paycheck on pay day!

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 12, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions

I just would've laughed if I was Schwartz and said

“Next question.”

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by Skylar on Dec 15, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions

Is it the same shoulder that sat him out last season

and that he had coming out of college?

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by rames on Dec 12, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions

Are you talking about Berry?

I thought he had a broken arm last season.

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by drgarnett on Dec 12, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions

No, it was a shdouler injury

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by Sean Yuille on Dec 12, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions

Also known as shoulder*

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by Sean Yuille on Dec 12, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions

The shdouler injury sounds much worse.

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by drgarnett on Dec 12, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions

22nd pick

I’d rather have the 32nd pick!

just sayin

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by seabeeruss on Dec 12, 2011 3:14 PM EST reply actions

yeak keep walking backwards Allen

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by The.Lions on Dec 12, 2011 3:35 PM EST reply actions

Face mask what face mask

I didn’t see a face mask….Face mask thats the craziest thng I have ever heard. lol

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by The Profiler on Dec 12, 2011 3:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

It looks to me like the ball was fumbled before the facemask took place, the same hand that grabs the facemask also knocked the ball loose. Even with a call, still a fumble and change of possesion.

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by j16941 on Dec 12, 2011 4:22 PM EST reply actions

Vikings fans....

don’t care about that minor flaw in their logic. There is ALLLLLLL types of butthurt over at dailynorseman.com about it. It is understandable that they are upset about the missed call, but the massive majority of comments and even the articles complain about how they cannot believe a call went against them. Huh? There are multiple comments claiming they should have won that game, but nowhere is there a level headed soul to remind those fans that they were down 21-0 and needed a final seconds drive with arguably the 2nd-3rd best quarterback on the team. I mean, one poor year and it is all of the officials fault automatically. Funny, Detroit has seen some of the most questionable officiating calls all season yet they have plugged away for 8 wins. Almost unreal.

by Kpaff3587 on Dec 12, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions

of course

and good luck to the Vikings, talk about a hard luck team

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 12, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions

I can't blame them for being upset

They got screwed.

They should have had another chance to win the game. There is nothing I personally can do about it but understand how they feel because I have had it happen to my team so many times.

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by joshsun on Dec 12, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions

They probably won't mind so much when it comes time for the 2012 draft

Did you guys see the size of that chicken?

by studmo on Dec 13, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions

yeah

I said as much over on their boards the other day.

And many agreed.

by joshsun on Dec 13, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions

Ball would have reverted to the Vikings

Since the penalty happened before a recovery of the ball, possession still belonged to the Vikings at the time of the penalty. That means, they would have retained possession and been given an un timed down from the 1 yard line. It’s kind of like defensive holding before an interception. Just because you got the pick doesn’t mean you get to keep it. There was a penalty before the change of possession. Sorry to sound like a negative nancy…just the way it works.

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by BBlades on Dec 12, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions

Don't apologize. That is a good call.

Did you guys see the size of that chicken?

by studmo on Dec 12, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions

exactly

Minny got screwed out of one more chance to win the game. I feel bad for them and their fans. I would rather have a win be an uncontested win. Sadly, there is nothing we can do about this now except understand their anger. We have been on the other side of those calls before too.

by joshsun on Dec 12, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions

sure

i wonder if the ref actually saw it. i don’t think so because at normal speed it looks like the facemask caused the fumble. you have to throw a flag there.

but, slow-mo replay shows that the facemask had very little to do with the play. it was collateral damage after the ball is dislodged by Levy’s swipe. his paws raked across Webb’s facemask after ball is out.

then, if you had supervision, as a ref, are you really going to call an incidental facemask on the last play of the game if it occurs after the Webb loses control of the ball? if the facemask caused the ball to come out you almost have to throw the flag, i think refs tighten up a little on final plays—we see it a lot with pass interference where they are a lot more tolerant with pushing and grabbing. at the end of the day, i think it was a good no call—whether the ref actually saw it or not.

if the call is made, Vikings get one more shot from the 1 yard line.

by x$pcents IV on Dec 13, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions

a facemask caused a fumble

I read this over on Daily Norseman as well and its comical to say the least. Unless there is a secret fumble button on Webb’s facemask this argument is clearly reaching.

by weyun on Dec 13, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions

...and...

even if Levy accidently hit the fumble button on Webb’s facemask, it didn’t matter because the ball was already out.

by x$pcents IV on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions

Well

there is something to be said about the Ref following the ball as it broke loose and as a result missing the face mask pull.

by joshsun on Dec 13, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions

last offensive play of the game.

I find it hard to imagine that punting is the correct call there. Especially if you go into prevent mode after. The worst thing that can happen, is that you give it to them, they drive and score without enough time left to get into field goal range.
I say go for it on 4th, then if it doesn’t work play aggressive D. If they score, you still have time to win.

by storm135 on Dec 12, 2011 4:56 PM EST reply actions

Allen is a Jerkoff

Did you see that guy out there dancing and smiling Your team is the worst in franchise history dude. Also you were down by 20 something points (at the time)

Refreshing for me to hear lions players and coaches referring to them getting jobbed about no calls. I don’t want to be known as the team thats always whining about missed calls but I think the Refs need to be held accountable.

Either way it was nice to finally get a big call in our favor.

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by Eddie Apoc on Dec 12, 2011 5:38 PM EST reply actions

Hey Jared

if Detroit is such a bad place, how come the Vikings couldn’t win there?

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 12, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions

Don't get me wrong

I love seeing Lions victories, but man i’m gonna miss choosing from the cream of the crop come draft night :(

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by detpistons3 on Dec 12, 2011 5:55 PM EST reply actions

We got a break, tough

After watching other teams get breaks to add to our misery of the last decade, I’m probably going to laugh at the Vikings before I feel bad.

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by Elfuego51 on Dec 12, 2011 8:03 PM EST reply actions

missed calls?

Like Calvin Johnson catching a td for the game winner in Chicago first game last year? Oh that never happened according to the NFL, Or maybe like Mike Williams (sorry guys) but yes Mike Williams catching a sliding game winning td on the road in Tampa his rookie year,oh that didn’t happen either,or maybe the 49ers getting a phantom 5 yards added to Ted ginn’s return that never got explained in our loss vs the 49ers this year at our house,oh sorry that never happened either….so call it what u want,but I look at it as the NFL,refs,whoever owes us at least 2 more!

by hostage42 on Dec 12, 2011 9:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions

Oh not to mention the 2 horrible calls on suh… Pushing jay cutler got him a fine….tackling Marion barber by his hair got him another fine…..which added to this suspension they keep saying his 6 fines when it should really be 4…so blown calls shouldn’t be talked about when we get a call our way.

by hostage42 on Dec 12, 2011 9:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

You left out Peterman's two calls.

The ones where the ref said he was “baiting him into a chopblock” but no chopblock ever happened. Granted the league repealed his fines, but both those calls were drive killers.

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by BBlades on Dec 12, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly guys...

That bs officiating has killed us for years…so the Vikings are hardly the only ones getting screwed.

by akadwriter on Dec 13, 2011 2:28 AM EST up reply actions

how about Packer WR getting a holding call

because he stumbles out of his stance on the snap. he wasn’t even touched by a defender.

by x$pcents IV on Dec 13, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions

I got a feelin...

At the beginning of the season I posted that the Vikings were going to become the new Lions…game on the line, 2 seconds left…here’s the snap…FUMBLE!!!! but wait, he grabbed the facemask…OH!!! but there’s no flags, another crazy, disappointing defeat for the Det…I mean Minnesota Lions, I mean Vikings…

by rproulx on Dec 13, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions 2 recs

Vikings, the new Lions

I love it.

by weyun on Dec 13, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions

Hahaha nice man

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by Eddie Apoc on Dec 13, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions

I'm going to miss the Slolights

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