Pro Bowl 2012 Roster: Calvin Johnson Only Lion Named To NFC Team
by Sean Yuille on Dec 27, 2011 7:16 PM EST
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The 2012 NFL Pro Bowl rosters have been announced. Surprisingly, wide receiver Calvin Johnson is the only player from the Detroit Lions on the NFC roster for the game. He received the fourth-highest amount of votes from fans, so his inclusion for the second year in a row is no surprise. It is a bit surprising, however, that Johnson is the only Lions player currently set to go to Hawaii for the game.
The Lions have three alternates for the 2012 Pro Bowl: quarterback Matthew Stafford, defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and safety Louis Delmas. If something happens where players at their respective positions can't participate in the game either because of injuries or because they're in the Super Bowl, they will be called upon to play in the game.
I have two problems with this. For starters, Stafford was left off the NFC roster because Eli Manning was selected as the third quarterback. Stafford's numbers (4,518 yards, 63.7 completion percentage, 36 TD, 14 INT) are better than Manning's (4,587 yards, 60.3 completion percentage, 26 TD, 16 INT), so I really don't understand the thinking behind Manning's selection.
My other major problem is that Cliff Avril wasn't even named an alternate for the Pro Bowl. I realize there are many great defensive ends in the NFC, but it seems like he is at least deserving of being named an alternate. I suppose aside from contract bonuses, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day, but it'd be nice for Lions players that are deserving of recognition to actually get some.
Go to NFL.com for a full look at the 2012 Pro Bowl rosters.
UPDATE: The Charlotte Observer is reporting that Cam Newton is the first alternate at quarterback, meaning two of Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees and Eli Manning would have to miss the game for Stafford to go to Hawaii. Ridiculous. (Via Dave Birkett)
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I watch the Detroit Lions and I....
by Lions & Panthers Fan on Dec 27, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
THIS
Is why the pro bowl is a JOKE. No Suh ok fine, No Stafford Really? No Avril Are you stupid! This is total BS theres atleast 2 guys that deserve this along with Calvin. What happens when you let the stupid fans vote.
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The "Pro Bowl" has lost all creditability
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by RealityIsOptionable on Dec 27, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions
All we need now is Tebow to make it
And the ProBowl is a worse joke than Matt Millen being a good GM
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Tebow is an alternate, As is Stafford
We’ll show Staffords better than Eli in 2 weeks!
We've become so dumb we don't know how dumb we've become. Source Obscure.
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by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Dec 27, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
That's funny as Giants fan we hope we get the Lions in the playoffs...
You’ll get what you wish for but don’t be surprised when you’re watching the Giants the next week in the Divisional Round.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Stafford > Eli
If Giants win it won’t be because of superior quarterback play
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Yea it's definitely because our 30th ranked D
And our 28th ranked rushing offense. Not to mention all the backups playing on our terrible offensive line. Honorable mention to being 2nd in the league in dropped passes. The NFL record for TD passes in the 4th qtr in one season that Eli tied already and will break sunday night. His six fourth qtr comebacks were because of other people too. Do yourself a favor and do a little research before you throw out statements. Without Eli the Giants would have 2 wins tops.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 11:07 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Do yourself a favor and make the playoffs before you decide who you would like to play
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by Spider1 on Dec 28, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Really
Making the playoffs sounds like a good idea, before you start bragging you are going to beat the Lions in the first round. The Giants beat the Jets last week who have an awful quaterback so that is the only reason your defense looked decent. Stafford is so much better than Sanchez it isn’t even worth discussing. All Lions fans would rather play the NFC East winner than the Saints because that division doesn’t even deserve a playoff team.
by RedeemedLions on Dec 28, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Wow for a perennial NFL doormat
it didn’t take long for Lion fans to get an exaggerated sense of their football team. SMH
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That's funny
How can you get upset when Lions fans are sick of hearing their team sucks, because this year that isn’t the case. Yeah the Lions had bad years because of management problems, but before that they were pretty good. Remember Barry Sanders, Herman Moore, Robert Porcher. Those teams weren’t exactly doormats. Sorry for sticking up for my football team.
by RedeemedLions on Dec 28, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
SMH is right, dummy
…it took three years to go from zero wins to 10 or 11.
You’re goddamn right that whole
perennial NFL doormatsentiment is clearly in the rear view mirror.
What the fuck do you want from us? We have one of the most exciting teams in the league now, and some of us have supported the team for decades upon decades.
This is Pride of Detroit. I don’t know what else you could possibly expect. Get lost.
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by Skylar on Dec 28, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I almost forgot
Eli is so great that is why he beat the Redskins a few weeks ago right. 2 wins did you do any research to come up with that number?
by RedeemedLions on Dec 28, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Never mind my above comment
I forgot you guys aren’t even in yet so your just here to talk. Sorry. Come back when your in the playoffs.
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by Spider1 on Dec 28, 2011 8:10 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Tebow's a second alternate.
The AFC contenders/representatives at the moment are the Steelers, the Ravens, the Bengals, the Texans, The Patriots, the Broncos, the Jets, and the Raiders. Of those, only the Patriots are a heavy-offense team, while the Steelers have a good offense to match with a good defense (but not on the level of last year’s run) and the rest are more defensive teams, especially the Texans with their current QB situation. So it’s a bit understandable there’s a general dearth of good offensive players in the AFC this year.
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pro bowl is a damn joke
raji over suh, eli over stafford wtf man gay as hell, whole packer D in pro bowl and they sucked ass this year
I get that Suh didn't make it
But Staff is just pissing me off!
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Awesome
Now we can resign guys without agents wanting more money because they are pro-bowlers.
Sorry I have to see the good in this insanity. Eli over Stafford is a joke.
Stafford got more fan votes than Eli
So the players and coaches voted for him over Stafford.
Clearly we’re missing something here…
league wide respect for a superbowl winning QB?
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For a Superbowl in 2008? I thought it was supposed to be about 2011?
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by AlaskaLion on Dec 27, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think Stafford had pretty great numbers this season.
That’s what it’s about. Oh well.
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Clearly missing the fact that stats aren't the end all be all...
When it comes to quarterbacks. Not surprised Lions fans can’t recognize a good QB especailly considering most of you guys weren’t alive the last time the Lions had one!
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:15 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
And you are clearly ignoring the facts ...
Stats aren’t everything .. But How many QB’s had 3 comeback wins of 17+ points ? .. 4 comebacks of 13 points ?
FYI that is a record .. and that is thanks to THE QB – Matt Stafford
Know what you are arguing abt before you argue. Eli didn’t do well this year is a universally acknowledged fact. They just wanted a NY QB in there .. it’s called ratings fixing. Not surprised NY fans can’t recognize a ratings fix cuz you guys have never been without it .. how would you know ?
Suh didn’t deserve a PB spot this year .. Raji did ..
Eli not doing well this year is an acknowledge fact lmao
The guy broke the record for fourth qrt Td passes. Has six 4th quarter comebacks. He should get MVP votes let alone pro bowl. What universe do you love in. SMH
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 11:10 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I tend to love in this universe...
But if there’s a parallel uni that I should love in as well, let me know.
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Your looking at one stat
what about all of the other stats. I am not saying Eli hasn’t had a good year but Stafford has him beat in every qb category except a few yards which may he may not have much longer. TD, INTs, Yards, WIns. Those are stats that should be focused on. If you do that then its an easy decision. Which QB has had the better year? Stafford has set a few records this year too ( which is irrelevant) but overall he has had a better year at QB than Eli. The stats prove it.
Well
It is pretty obvious that we are biased for Stafford since we are Lions fans and you are biased for Eli since you are a Giants fan. When you listen to all the analysts and popular opinion throughout the nation, almost everyone thinks Stafford is more deserving. New York fans being the only one who prefer Eli.
by RedeemedLions on Dec 28, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
That's funny I haven't heard anything from the national media
bashing Eli over Stafford in the pro bowl. Everyone on NFL network said Eli most deserving but it really doesn’t matter we’ll never agree so I’ll just call it a day. Enjoy your one more win then us and we’ll see you in two weeks.
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Will we see...
Everyone on NFL Network I heard said Stafford and they did a poll question and Stafford won. In any case it’s irrelevant because the game means nothing and no one watches. One more win? We are 10-5, the Giants are 8-7, now I’m no math whiz but counting on my fingers I believe that is 2 more wins. I guess we can worry about the Giants when you guys actually beat Dallas this week, pretty sure that game still hasn’t been decided yet.
by RedeemedLions on Dec 28, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Don't get upset
I’m not saying that the Giants aren’t good or that they won’t win this weekend because I think they will. You guys have some great players as well. I’m certainley not underestimating the Giants and thinking it will be an easy game if we play them like some. All I’m saying is just take it one step at a time and win this weekend before you worry about the Lions.
by RedeemedLions on Dec 28, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
When you guys were losing ..
Eli wasn’t doing that good of a job and everyone said so. He had to do better. He didn’t suck this year overall, but he has been inconsistent and you probably followed his struggles when you were losing ..
Stafford is playing his 1st full season .. had a fractured finger .. the bad stretch we had was when he hurt, wearing a glove and wasn’t accurate .. check with coaches who said it was really affecting his throws .. we know cuz we watch every game of ours ..
I know Eli is a good QB .. and has a SB .. He has the skill and the pedigree … but he didn’t have that good of a year and didn’t deserve to go to the PB over Staff ..
its all good the Lions players won't get a chance to participate
because they’ll be busy in the superbowl.
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by Wayne Fontes on Dec 27, 2011 7:23 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Joke
Just another NFL money machine to get ad dollars during the game.
Almost there...
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Panthers fan here
Stafford got screwed over I wouldn’t be mad if Cam didn’t make it over Stafford but Manning??? Wtf this voting needs to be straightened out
by rscott94 on Dec 27, 2011 7:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Eh...
Hate to say it but all hate aside, Eli>Cam
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by rscott94 on Dec 27, 2011 7:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
does that crystal ball show us when the Lions win the superbowl?
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
All I'm saying is
If I’m building a team, and you ask me Cam Newton or Eli Manning for my QB, I’ll take Cam in a heartbeat.
Well duh, Cam is younger
But I’d choose Staff over Cam every time
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
And it's not even close
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
cam?
why is cam even mentioned? he ranks like 14th or so in passer rating. he did not take care of the ball. he looked good for a rookie, but he is not even close to a probowler yet.
by x$pcents IV on Dec 27, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hype.
He’s good. Tebow had his moments too. Pro-Bowl? Not this year, for either of them.
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True. Makes me wonder how much of a shit people would give if he was the Lions' QB
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
I actually like Tebow when he's not hamming it up.
but yeah I’d be a little pissed.
Again, gotta take the Pro-Bowl for what it is, pretty frivolous and dumb.
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I don't even think he's usually hamming it up.
It’s more the media in general. And they’re just as bad.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I think he takes it a bit far. But like I said, it's the only knock on the guy.
Tebow milks his faith, whether he admits or not.
He’s a leader and the team buys into it- he is a team guy, but he also never misses a chance to isolate into the “me & the lord” moment.
It’s like, we got it. Everybody knows it. He takes it to an extreme.
but he’s a good dude and he gives it a lot of heart. I could just do with a little more moderation to the pageantry.
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I agree completely.
What Stafford and Newton have done for their respective teams is much more than Manning has done for the Giants…
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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Dec 27, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'm prety sure Stafford will make it
Unless yall go to the superbowl (witch I hope happens) I see Brees/Rodgers going to the superbowl and Stafford coming in as an alternate
by rscott94 on Dec 27, 2011 7:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Without Manning they are 7-9 maybe
He has won them plenty of games, but this is still ridiculous.
And with him they're 9-7 at the most...
not that impressive.
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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Dec 27, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
look at the stat
Good share of the year Eli wasn’t to far behind Rodgers,Brady and Brees. Hate if you must but facts are facts
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
He'll crumple in the playoffs.
the other three aren’t flaky like he is. I see Rivers got the nod too. Again, those two cats are maybe a 1/2 step up from Romo. Maybe.
It’s not a matter of hate, it’s disrespect. I don’t respect Eli, Phil, or Tony.
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I seen what Eli did in the superbowl
I think you have to respect him to an extnet…He’s the only one of those guys who won a ring
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just saying
Says he’s gonna crumble in the playoffs…Not like he hasn’t done this shit before
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think we both know he rode a killer defense into that Superbowl.
I should respect the ring- but I just don’t take the guy serious in 2011/12. Just seems inherently flaky now.
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That last play of the superbowl El has the ball and is going to get sacked
Defense had nothing to do with that man lol Strahan and Osi kept him in it but when they needed him to step up you and I know he did. He did not pull a Dilfer on that ring
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
I can understand seeing his play drop and go up and drop
Kinda been a roller coaster with him. When it comes to playoffs I’d rather take my chances with Romo than knowing we could catch Eli on a night when he’s on. Cause when he’s on he’s pretty damn good.
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that's true, if I got my choice, I wanna play against Romo for sure.
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Completely disagree with this statement...
He didn’t throw an interception until the SB and steve smith tipped it right into a defenders hands. Eli Manning was CLEARLY the best QB in the playoffs that year and you’re blind if you can’t see that.
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Yup killer 17th ranked defense
Do some research before spewing garbage and making a fool of yourself.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:25 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
but forget the stats for a minute (even if Staff's are better)
Stafford just looked better. He looks like a probowler. Eli was never pretty to watch—not like Peyton.
by x$pcents IV on Dec 27, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
I thought the Giants had 10 wins for some reason
Anyway, Stafford has 10 more touchdowns and 2 less intercepts and is more efficient, and he has surpassed all of Mannings best seasons in his first full season. The most touchdowns he’s ever thrown is 31. Staff gets 4800/38 next week he is in some elite company.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:20 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
10-6
Head and shoulders better SMH.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:18 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
To be honest
I don’t think anyone here is trying to say Eli isn’t a good Qb because he is and has a ring to prove it. I just think people are trying to say that overall Stafford has had a better year this season. If I would have been up to me Stafford would have been 3rd and Eli would have been first alternate. In any case it is very close, and we are both biased towards our teams.
by RedeemedLions on Dec 28, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Agree 100%
Except if you watched Eli like I do you’d see theres more than stats when it comes to playing QB.
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Plus
Have you seen the circus catches from Cruz and co.? That definitely makes Eli look better than he really is
by dalrymple87 on Dec 27, 2011 11:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea I know
And throwing to CJ in triple coverage for 3tds a game doesn’t make Stafford look good lmao. You guys really are great. Eli gets penalized for making an undrafted player a pro bowler but Stafford tosses ducks to a top ten talent and that doesn’t matter lol.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Clearly you've never actually watched Stafford when he's on his game.
He’s up there with Brees and Rodgers, miles and miles ahead of Manning.
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by TheLoneDavid on Dec 28, 2011 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
Clearly you never watch Eli
He’s better then Drew run up the score Brees (maybe the most overrated qb in NFL history). When Eli is off his game he’s a top ten QB. When he’s on it (which this year has been every game minus 2) he’s a top three QB. I know you’re a Lion fan and live Stafford but he’s not as good as Eli.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 11:18 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
You seem to mix up Live and Love...hmmm...
I’m actually very intrigued to see how you back up this “Eli is better than Brees” argument. It’s going to have to take some serious “live” from you to make that statement and stand by it.
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Turn off the Espn talking heads, watch a game, and form your own opinion. You’ll find you get much more knowledge that way.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 11:20 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ok. Done.
That was refreshing.
My opinion, without ESPN or the talking heads, is that Eli is whiny and Stafford is a better QB than he is. Always will be.
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I dont know
I understand looking at it that way when you are picking a MVP. For the Pro Bowl it should based on the stats.
It's all about TV ratings.
I’d bet money that more Lions fans would watch the Pro Bowl if Stafford was playing than NYG fans will watch over Eli. Where is MisterEK when you need him?
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by RealityIsOptionable on Dec 27, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions
True
Also think that Eli has a more Nation-wide fan base which helped him a lot :(
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What. The. Fuck.
Raji and Matthews??? really the packers have no pass rush and just got gashed for 200yds on the ground by a 1 dim bears team. How about a Cory Wiliiams or Suh…Avril and Tulloch.
ELI…? ELI…? you cant be serious
matthews deserves it
the others are questionable
okay with Mathews! he was dominant forget the numbers
Raji was not even close. Suh was commanding a lot of double teams this year. I would like to hear what the Guards and Centers who faced Suh would say about him. Forget the numbers, teams must account for and game plan around Suh. He was all-pro 1st team last year. The guy straight balls regardless of the stats.
by x$pcents IV on Dec 27, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Raji and Suh are tough.
They play positions that just don’t generate stats. Not saying Raji should or shouldn’t be in there.
Suh should be a pro bowler
Stats be damned. He passes the eye test as far as I’m concerned. When I watch Suh my eyes say pro bowler.
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So, Suh who commands triple teams and Stafford who is the difference between
a 6-10 team and a Playoff team don’t deserve to be in the playoffs… And don’t even get me started on Cliff Avril…
Just goes to show you the fans are stupid (aka, swayed by the media’s coverage of certain players) and the pro bowl is a joke.
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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Dec 27, 2011 7:32 PM EST reply actions
correction, don't deserve to be in the pro-bowl
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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Dec 27, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Stephen Tulloch is haveing a great year and should at least be considered for an alt.
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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Dec 27, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Alternate at best
-Willis and Bowman should occupy 2 spots apiece honestly. Played out of their damn minds this season, it’s been a long time since we’ve seen such a dominant pair of linebackers as this. Without a doubt the best front 7 in football.
-Urlacher seemed to just give up after Cutler and Forte went down but he was playing like it was 2005 before that.
-London Fletcher was a HUGE snub, worse than Stafford.
Bowman didn't even make the pro bowl...
He was the best LB in the league this season and no one can convince me otherwise. That was the biggest snub imo. But the 49ers have 8 pro bowlers already, so fuck them.
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A bunch of darling Packers defense got in, and their defense isn’t even very good.
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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Dec 27, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Not very good is very generous for their defense.
Their defense is shit. You could ship all of them over here and maybe 3 of them would beat out our starters.
And don't forget about Hansen
a player who has set all kinds of records this year and just has been clutch for so many years, how could he not be a top vote getter? Many other players could have made 1st team Pro Bowl on our squad but the bowl is a joke, mostly names people have heard and not what they did on the field this year. Chris Houston also should have been up there even if he was hurt for a bit this year.
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Such garbage
What about Stephen Tulloch or Chris Houston they have had great seasons. I know people don’t watch the Pro Bowl anymore and it is a useless game, but it would still be nice if the Lions got a little more love. Eli over Stafford has to be a bad joke. Well in the end make the Super Bowl and it doesn’t matter.
I for one am not surprised in the least.
probowl has always been a joke. I don’t watch it ever and neither should you.
Maybe I will give a fuck once they figure out a better way to elect the team.
Fuck it. I don’t want stafford playing. Calvin either. No risking injuries for no gain.
They wouldn't have played anyways
We will be preping for the SB!
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ROMO
NO! Thats B.S sorry
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
29 TDs 9 Picks
People blame romo but its Rob Ryan’s crap ass defense that loses them most of their games.
I agree with Romo over Eli
and obviously Stafford over Eli. But Cam over Eli is a bit of a leap for me.
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All I can say is lmao
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:27 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Psh, whatever.
Snubs on snubs on snubs.
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Dont want any un needed injuries
by BennieBladesFan on Dec 27, 2011 7:41 PM EST reply actions
WOW
This is bull shit. I hope we end up with the #5 seed and NY wins the east, then have Matt throw a football up everyones ass in New York.
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The fact the Cliff Avril isnt even an alternate is bull crap
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
The popularity factor/history is factor is greatest with Freeney over anyone else on this list probably.
Playing on one of the fastest tracks in the NFL, this one trick pony only got 7.5 sacks – and that’s all he’s decent at, especially when you consider he only had like 12 solo tackles. Whatever. 12 tackles and single digit sacks on a team with two miracle wins? Is that a joke?
doesnt matter!
well playin in the SUHperbowl anyway! maybe the folks who vote just had a little forsight. besides, you know the NFL HAS to have a manning in there somewhere.
Think Schwartz may use this as a possible motivational technique?
that they made the playoffs but individual they “still dont level up” and motivate them to prove the rest of the league wrong?
Don't let my profile name fool you. My heart is, and always has been, with the Detroit Lions.
It makes me so fkn mad that the Lions do not get the respect they deserve
and the sports announcers SUCK UP to certain teams. Fuck them all! I am so pissed.
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@Staff_9 You know what’s better than a pro bowl trip? A SB ring. Get ’em! #FtheHaters
Suh I can see, Avril…. I don’t know man, I don’t know. But Eli over Stafford is comical. One guy hasn’t even gotten his team to the playoffs yet, might not, and has the benefit of a run game, and the other has less picks and took his team to the playoffs for the first time IN 13 FUCKING YEARS.
Eli Manning is a slack jawed yokel. He’s a shadow of Peyton. Peyton Manning farted while in his mother’s womb, and after a few years of marinating, Eli came out. I’d be less upset if it was Cam Newton over Stafford to be honest. Dude broke the single season rushing TD record AND passing record for a QB. At least that would make some form of sense…. Jesus.
by mrbusto71 on Dec 27, 2011 7:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I am pissed off at stafford's snub dont get me wrong but.....
Why the fuck did Phillip Rivers get in when he had a terrible season up until 3 games before week 16 and then flopped big time against us….
Yes to All of the Above
…Stafford, Avril, Houston, Hanson—even one of our Tight Ends (Pettigrew or Scheffler, take your pick) should have made it.
On the other hand, I agree with Busto & others that it’s great motivation for the Playoffs. Couldn’t pick a better path to the Super Bowl than through all the guys whose huge metro fan bases made them shoo-ins, despite not having the numbers.
JUST MAKES ME WANT TO CHEER LOUDER!! GO LIONS!!
by LionFanInChiefsLand on Dec 27, 2011 8:02 PM EST reply actions
Uh...Scheff
No way. Pettigrew? Possibly.
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Scheffler was fun to watch this year and very valuable to us.
…but on a national level he’s not sneaking into the Pro Bowl.
Like BH said, maybe ’Grew
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I thought the Pro Bowl was established as a joke awhile ago.
It used to be great but now it’s just kind of an embarrassment. It’s usually filled with undeserving players simply because casual fans don’t know better and players/coaches don’t know better unless they’ve faced that player specifically. Half of Green Bay’s players on the roster got by simply because they play for Green Bay and people don’t know better or don’t have the time to know better and while Phillip Rivers’ inclusion is a joke to me, I’m grateful it’s Rivers and not Flacco or Tebow, who would’ve just flat-out pissed me off.
I do agree, Avril and Stafford should’ve made it. JPP and Eli Manning are beneficiaries of the fact that they play for a huge market. Both have been incredibly clutch at times for the Giants but the same argument can be made for both Avril and Stafford as well. They’ve been fantastic players and should definitely have made it. But outside of them, the Pro Bowl roster’s pretty accurate. Raji also shouldn’t be there, as well as Woodson, and they got the wrong safety from Seattle (should’ve been Cam Chancellor). Other than that, the NFC looks pretty much right on what I’d expect it to look to be a true Pro Bowl.
But the AFC Roster makes me get shouty and I’ll take that to CJ.
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Pierre-Paul has been a monster for the Giants this year
I think his spot is deserved, Raji,,,, not so much
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Raji's countered as an interior lineman
Suh probably should’ve made it over him. JPP’s been good but Avril’s been better.
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Jpp is like third in sacks and first in tackles
On top if the fact he didn’t start for most of the season and there isn’t a single argument to be made against Jpp.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:43 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
yea
JPP have been better than Avril i cant believe we trying to agrue with that. as a lion fan i love avril but JPP just been better and really i believe JPP will be the best DE in his prime and every time i watch the gaints(a lot because one of my best friends is a gaint fan) JPP reminds me of a more athletic vander boesch. never gives up on the play and give it his all. JPP is their team defensive MVP if you ask me.
Bored stiffs
…football junkies.
Me, sometimes.
It’s honestly a lame piece of product when you think about it, though.
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I watch to make sure my players get out healthy. After that it gets turned off!
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:44 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I surely hope that we play the Giants in the Wild Card game
Then Staff will show these dumbasses who should have made the pro bowl over Eli.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:45 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Actually I'm ready for a new coaching staff
So a lose would guarantee that and I’d get over the loss faster then a normal loss.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 11:15 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Giants fans need to be hoping to get past Dallas
Kind of getting ahead of yourselves worrying about playoff match ups when you’re going into Week 17 not yet in.
Stafford has to be comeback of the year though?
Either that or the entire NFL is a joke
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The NFL at large is a joke, yes.
Especially how they market/promote. It’s ridiculous, and Goddell knows it.
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I rarely beat the "Media Bias" drum around here
…but after the season Stafford had, setting all kinds of Franchise records, coming back really strong after several considerable injuries- this is definitely bullshit.
It’s to be expected because Detroit and its’ teams are not well liked, nationwide.
Part of me knew Megatron was the only guy getting in.
Fuck ’em though. Winning season, playoffs… a team we can believe in. Fuck a Pro Bowl.
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playyoff game lions vs giants
stafford throws for 5 Tds 430 yars, suh smashes eli, avril gets a sack fumble recovery for a TD.
I like that scenerio.
Especially the part where Suh Smashes bobble head, I mean Eli.
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I'd love to draw the Giants.
They have a lot of people thinking they’re actually a playoff threat. My money is certainly on Detroit.
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Then you woke up and remembered
You’re a Lions fan lol.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:48 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
just want to say
+1 to everyone that says “fuck this shit”
it’s the pro bowl, or the “lets flex our dick bowl cause we got in cuz we r popular mkay”
I don’t even care about this, really, I was looking forward to stafford getting in, in fact, I read the NFL article which 7/8 people said that Stafford SHOULD GET THE NOD…but nope!
fuck them, fuck them all, it’s a piece of shit game that means nothing, we only want to win one bowl, and that’s the Super Bowl! #GoLions
by Usman 'Uzi' Altafullah on Dec 27, 2011 8:22 PM EST reply actions
Id rather not have any Lions in the probowl
Think about it, its just a big popularity contest and everybody in the NFL hates the Lions because a) we don’t back down and are considered a dirty, undisciplined team and b) we are a 10 or 11 win playoff team that can beat any team in the NFL. What will saying that Stafford is a probowler do to change how we Lions fans feel about him? Nothing. Or Avril or Suh? Nothing. We love our Lions and know how good they are.
I never did care for that stupid probowl. This is a good thing to for resigning free agents, it will be a lot cheaper than if a guy has probowl next to his name.
I know a lot of you are mad, as you have good reason, but the less amount of spotlight for these Lions the better imo. Look what happened last time we played on national tv and started the 5-0 buzz. Its better for a team like this to be under the radar, its exactly how I like them to be.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
by DLions4Eva on Dec 27, 2011 8:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If Stafford didn't have those three long weeks in gloves
He still wouldn’t have made it. Even With 40+ touchdowns and no more than 6-7 interceptions.
Not that I care about the Pro Bowl…
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Dec 27, 2011 8:25 PM EST reply actions
No doubt about that
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Dec 27, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
he has a 'slim' shot at 5000
needs like 481 yards
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last year rodgers didnt make the pro bowl look how that turned out!!!
same with stafford, the lions have now that much more motivation to not just win in the playoffs but dominate and humiliat teams, first on the list GIANTS
Ok... I am done venting.
There is only one answer back to all this crap and that’s to WIN! Plain and simple. Green Bay did it last year, Lions can do it this year. Anything’s possible.
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yeah right your done venting
love to see the day that happens LOL
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Just updated the story. Cam Newton is apparently the first alternate. How dumb.
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Scam Newton pulls off another one
What a joke Andy Dalton is better than him!
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
!!!!!
:D
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I think in the long run Dalton will be better
But I’ve been adamant about how bad I think Newton will be. So….yeah.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Newton turned out to be the better of the two in the end.
But I don’t mind. They’re pretty much exact opposites. Newton’s flashy, Dalton’s efficient. After having years of flashy players go nowhere, I’ll take efficient in a heartbeat.
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I've been saying all along
That Newton will regress in his second year. Big time. Maybe not so much as Bradford did, but he will.
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Oh man, Bradford made me sad.
I hope that guy gets better, he’s a generally likable guy from what I can tell and he’s got the makings of a decent QB. That’s all the Rams probably want.
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I hear Romo is the 2nd Alt
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Total BS: I think Cam is a promising player and no disrespect to the good rookie season he's had but no way does he rank above Stafford
Perhaps the Pro-Bowl voters just think Cam will bring in more viewers. All about the TV ratings and popularity!
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It's the Hype
Stafford after 3 years and 1 stellar season. His “hype” has worn off. Cam Newton losses included still has plent of fresy hype around him. Frankly it’s highway robbery
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Now that's a joke...
Cam over Stafford is retarded.
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 6:49 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
huh?
No cliff April? Even as an alternate? U gotta be Fucking kidding me! April is a beast….I kinda understand he’s not a starter coz its loaded at de…..but to not be an alternate is the joke of all Fucking jokes! I mean what more need he do? Or is it our fault for not voting enough? Well i hope no lions are in it at all….. When ur in the super bowl you won’t play anyway! So here’s to hoping none of our guys play,lol. If not its a great sign!
by hostage42 on Dec 27, 2011 8:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
huh?
No cliff April? Even as an alternate? U gotta be Fucking kidding me! April is a beast….I kinda understand he’s not a starter coz its loaded at de…..but to not be an alternate is the joke of all Fucking jokes! I mean what more need he do? Or is it our fault for not voting enough? Well i hope no lions are in it at all….. When ur in the super bowl you won’t play anyway! So here’s to hoping none of our guys play,lol. If not its a great sign!
by hostage42 on Dec 27, 2011 8:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Stafford
11th right now on most passing tds in a season. 3 more and he’ll break the top ten passing Favre for 9th place (tie for 8th).
Pettigrew got ripped again for the second season by Tony Gonzolaz.
Avril saw it coming..all anybody cares about is sack numbers. Babin though?
San Fran has 8 pro bowlers but their most deserving player didn’t make it.
by Lionsfan012 on Dec 27, 2011 8:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Who is our most deserving player?
For the joke that Pro bowl is, there is a LOT of pro-bowl based bonuses in various player contracts.
P.S. If you think of Aldon Smith
He is not an every down player yet. But, yes, he is awesome. Hope he breaks the rookie record next week.
What?
It’s comments like these that make me scratch my head? Pettigrew was ripped off by Gonzalez? In what world?
79 REC, 867 Yards, and 7 TDs compared to 76, 661, and 5.
Tony Gonzalez is probably/will be the greatest TE in the history of the league when he retires
plus he’s had a good season too, better than Pettigrew. I don’t see anything wrong with that
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no if you look at blocking
as a fundamental aspect of playing the position. Grew is one of the best all-around TEs in the league.
by x$pcents IV on Dec 27, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
But Alex Lee did make it.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I don't mind...if our players didn't have a chip on there shoulders before this
they most certainly will now! look the fuck out EVERYBODY!
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100 comments about a game no one will watch
LMAO
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We don' get no respect!
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No respect at all
We need to get London Fletcher….He’d fit right in
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, HOLY SHIT
how did he not get it? 163 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 INT’s….GEEZE
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Whoa man...
I was thinking that it could possibly be because Eli Manning has won a Super Bowl, but CAM NEWTON over STAFFORD??? Now that is just plain asinine!
Are the Lions seriously going to have to win a Superbowl before our players get the recognition they deserve? Do they really think that Calvin Johnson puts up those numbers without #9 throwing him the ball??!? I am truly at a loss for words on this one…
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personnally
I think even Matt Ryan had a better season than Eli…. and a better record to match. I really am just disgusted in this whole Pro Bowl thing
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Let me get this right.
The Starting QB of the team in the largest market in the NFL got more votes than our QB. How does this surprise anyone? As far as Newton being an alternate before Staff. He is the rookie flavor of the year. No surprise here either if you think about it.
Avril is not a statistically top 10 DE in the NFL. No surprise he is not nominated. He is our best DE but he is not on the same level as the Elite guys.
Suh, no surprise at all. Not really sure he deserves alternate.
who else do we have? Houston? Not good enough yet but getting there. Maybe another year or two. He has a lot of competition.
Delmas as an Alternate? Really? He has 51 tackles, no sacks, no ints, 5 passes defenced and no forced fumbles. All that and he has missed 4 of our 15 games. Something tells me there are fans of other teams talking about Delmas the same way we are talking about Eli and Cam.
Meh, it is a flawed system.
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Stafford finished ahead of Eli in the fan voting
It was the players and coaches that screwed him over.
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no surprise
Established Superbowl winning QB in the NFL’s largest market.
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So the people that pay to watch the games...
their vote doesn’t matter, SMH!
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They included the fan vote a while ago to do exactly that
but they kept the coaches and players vote in there too.
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ultimately
No system will ever make everyone happy.
But putting Cam and Eli over Stafford is just flat stupid. I can understand and even agree with the rest of our players not making it but Staff and CJ are both fully deserving this season.
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yeah... makes sense.
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by LionsGal652 on Dec 27, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I don't agree with it all but w/e...
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by LionsGal652 on Dec 27, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
cam?
was is cam even mentioned? so what if he is a rookie? give him a rookie award. the guy ranks 14th in passer rating. his team didn’t do anything. he didn’t take care of the ball and they lost.
by x$pcents IV on Dec 27, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
i can agree with everything you say it just stafford that makes me shake my head..
he should easily win come back player of the year and hopefully superbowl MVP
The thing with Avril is playing with Suh, Williams, Fairley, his achievements would naturally be downplayed next to Suh alone.There is atleast 5 other DEs in the NFC doing more or as much with alot less talent on the line to help. Our Dline has been under performing and need to ramp it up going into the post season.
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I don't think he'll win comeback player of the year, because usually it means you have to have at least one successful or fully started season.
Steve Smith will probably win it… Or Willis McGahee.
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vick brady and pennington have won the last 3 years...
shit pennington has won it twice. i think his injury marred seasons is enough to qualify him for the come back player of the year.
injury or poor performance is enough to qualify
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Yeah, Pennington was injured both years before when he won it right?
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if rogers and jennings play in probowl
it will be the rogers jennings connection. Seems like last years probowl the QB was throwing a ton to his team mate. i think CJ caught one pass in last years probowl. I could care less about the probowl. Probowl is a joke. And to here the reference “he is a probowl caliber type player” DOESNT MEAN SHIT!
Pro Bowl is a joke indeed
Let’s just concentrate on the season, the playoffs and possibly the Super Bowl, anybody with me?
I know it's been said already but what the fuck?
Eli manning? ELI MANNING??? Who the fick picks Eli interception manning over MATHEW STAFFORD? What a load of bull shit!
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Yeah sounds about right.
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sorry Joshun I forget every time I say Jim Schwartz you die a little inside
LOL I kid
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
lol
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So, uhm, this might be my homerism coming out
But looking over that defense, I feel like if we had Calvin on our team and we played the NFC Pro Bowl team we could hang with them, might even squeak out a win.
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Maybe as the water boy
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
I would LOL
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by The Profiler on Dec 27, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
what about Grew?
catches a millions balls but actually plays the position too! (isn’t a big slot WR falsely designated as a TE). TEs have to block son.
Messed up
How did POD end up in a Cam vs Eli debate…I take Eli you take Cam I could care less. WHY? Cause I have Stafford and at the end of the day pro bowl or not. Thats good enough for me. This has gotte crazy LOL
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Anyone know how much money players get for making the Pro Bowl for their bonus?
I can’t believe Avril didn’t get alternate or anything. I mean he’s leading the league in forced fumbles, has 11 sacks and a pick 6. I can see why Pierre-Paul/Babin/Allen would be ahead of him but I’d put him at the 4th best this year. Can’t think of anyone else having a better year. Stafford getting snubbed is ridiculous, Eli isn’t having quite the year Stafford is, I don’t really understand that at all. Cam Newton is having a great rookie year, but 1st alternate?..No. Not with a 80 QB rating.
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demarcus ware, aldon smith, chris long
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Ware made it as an OLB, and I'd argue that Avril had a more impressive year than both Aldon Smith and Chris Long for sure.
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I believe Smith is also listed as a linebacker as well
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Do they vote based on 4-3?
Aldon plays mostly in nickel as DE, but projected as OLB.
Rockie sack record he is about to break is probably worth a cookie. Dude looks pretty dominant when he plays.
Not sure, I just know he was snubbed as a LB and is listed as a LB on NFL.com
I thought he was a DE since he played as a DE most of the time in their system. Either way I still think Avril > Smith this year. Smith has 3 more sacks but Avril has caused 5 more turnovers plus 1 for a TD. Avril has 1 more tackle as well.
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Worse than All star game voting smh
But it’s fine, it actually may be a good thing. One thing Matthew Stafford has shown me this year is that he is not a guy you want to dismiss. A motivated Stafford is a dangerous one. He came into this year wanting to prove he could stay healthy for a whole season, he did it. He wanted to prove he was the best qb of 2009 and he did it. From this point moving foward he’ll have this to motivate him and since his peers and coaches don’t feel he’s an elite qb he’ll just have to personally show them week after week.
Funny. On Niners Nation...
.. many folks had been scratching heads how the heck LT Staley and SS Goldman made it in.
If you read our game thread, one could wonder how they even play in NFL. :)
But.. as if we did not know how it works for years..
if u guys want a great laugh go read through the NYG sbnation site...
these guys are crying like no other, these guys were so surprised that Eli got in they had to go check Cowboys and Lions site just to read all the shit talking of Eli. The Pro Bowl could be the dumbest event in professional sports and i cant believe it has people this up in arms about it
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Better, Stronger, Faster
They said we were a one trick pony, talkin bout CALVIN. Well thats one hell of a TRICK!!!! - Nate B.
Hey bb1156 could be the dumbest NYG fan
keep running back and forth copying and pasting comments you wuss. at least accurately copy and paste instead of misconstruing the comment to make yourself feel better. Do you really need poster board material for a game you can only hope happens. You still have to win to even make the playoffs so why dont you worry about playing another NFC QB who has better stats than yours then you can worry about talking smack with us.
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Better, Stronger, Faster
They said we were a one trick pony, talkin bout CALVIN. Well thats one hell of a TRICK!!!! - Nate B.
wow that's pretty immature.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
hey bb tell your buddy big ken that your facts for being very off for being the smartest fans around
2000- we picked 20th
2001- we picked 18th
2002- we picked 3rd
2003- we picked 2nd
2004- we picked 7th
2005- we picked 10th
2006- we picked 9th
2007- we picked 2nd
2008- we picked 17th
2009- we picked 1st
2010- we picked 2nd
2011- we picked 13th
so i wouldnt exactly say thats picking top 3 for the last decade
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Better, Stronger, Faster
They said we were a one trick pony, talkin bout CALVIN. Well thats one hell of a TRICK!!!! - Nate B.
Let the trolls have their fun.
They will have a lot of time to screw with us when they are watching us in the playoffs.
It would be legitimate if we had taken quality players
With this team you can really only look at the last 3 years because that’s how much the roster has turned over.
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I deleted that string of comments about Manning...
…for the sake of other people’s IQ points. I’d like that five minutes of my life back.
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I still cannot believe Hanson has never been elected to the pro bowl team, he gets snubbed every year in my opinion. He is obviously doing something right to be the 5th all time scorer in the league have the most 50+ yard field goals in NFL History, and to be one of the most accurate kickers from inside 40 yards.
Where is the love??
by JasonsLoveTigers on Dec 28, 2011 10:08 AM EST reply actions
Now that's bullshit
How has Hanson never made a pro bowl?!
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by bleedblue12 on Dec 28, 2011 11:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Shows you that it is a popularity contest and quality players routinely get snubbed
What that kind of body of work, Hanson WILL be in the Hall of Fame, IMHO. And that obviously means a lot more than the BS Pro Bowl system.
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Yay! I get up and 34 new comments
Oh wait 30 of them are just Giants fans who don’t realize they have their own blog.
I don't get why everybody is making a big stink just now
Okay, I get it that our beloved Lions haven’t been voted in, especially since Stafford, Suh, and Delmas (and Avril) deserve to go, but this has been the story for years. It’s all just a big ass popularity contest. Even without the fan votes, it’s still whoever they want to go will go.
Had the players of this game actually had an incentive to win, I’d be mad. I look at it as being another reason to kick the Giants ass if they were to get past sorry ass Dallas.
Let's be honest...
Stafford is an amazing QB without a doubt. But if he was missing Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, Pettigrew, both the #1 and #2 RB’s, half his O-Line, 2 of the best 5 DE’s in the game, his #1 CB, his starting MLB, his #1 draft pick CB, his starting free safety, his #1 return man, and countless other special teams contributors would he still be able to do what Eli Manning has done??
Look at all of the KEY injuries the Giants have had this year. For Eli to be able to do what he has done in carrying the Giants on his back all season, and doing it in a wind tunnel as opposed to a dome, is nothing short of a miracle. Add in the pressure of playing in New York AND being Peyton’s little brother and Eli Manning is a lock for the Pro Bowl. All season long he has been the clear cut #4 QB in the NFL behind Rodgers, Brees, and Brady and now he’s finally getting some respect.
This DOES NOT mean that Stafford sucks or that he hasn’t had a great season. There’s no shame being the 4th best QB in the NFC with how good the top 3 are.
As for Suh not getting in, we all know why that is. Reputation alone.
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Why is everyone so upset????????????
Who watches that worthless ass game anyways???? The pro bowl is a fuckin joke! When you let fans vote is where you get the problems. Guys get voted in who should never be in and guys that legitimately deserve to get in don’t. Get used to it and stop watching that shit game and maybe the NFL will change how guys get in, otherwise STFU and deal with. I mean seriously, why watch a game where the rules are changed so no one gets injured. Its a crap game to watch and is rigged in a facets on who gets in. Not worth arguing about at all guys and gal.
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