Lions Playoff Prospects are still pretty good.

by nuftjedi on Dec 5, 2011 2:32 PM EST

I've been playing around a lot with the Playoff Machine on ESPN just to see what scenarios will work and it really isn't that bad of a proposition for the Lions.

(Most Important) the Lions HAVE to win at least 2 of the 4 games remaining to have any shot.
If they win 3/4 (loss to GB) than they are in. Only way this isn't true is if the Bears win out which is unlikely with GB in week 16. so potentially the Lions could have the playoffs locked up before even playing week 17.
if the Falcons win out or even 3/4 they lock up the #5 spot and get the NFC East winner. I say this because NO would have to pretty much lose out for DAL or NY to catch them for the #4 spot.
the Lions can catch and pass the Falcons for the #5 spot - and avoid a rematch with NO - if they win 3/4 and the Falcons go 2-2 which is possible if the lose in CAR and in NO.

there are some other scenarios out there, but really no matter how I flipped the games these scenarios all worked out.

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#2 is key

Winning the next 3 is certainly possible, and the Lions may even be favorites in all three games. Take care of business and they’re in. But can’t overlook any of those 3 games. None are gimmies.

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by simscity on Dec 5, 2011 3:28 PM EST reply actions

Agreed

None are gimmies. In order of difficulty (easiest to hardest) I would say Minny, chargers and then Oakland with one catch.

The charger game might just end up being the “trap” game for us. We beat up Minny pretty good, play a hard fought game against Oakland and win then play an slightly under rated team in the chargers that will probably be playing the spoiler role to end their season. I just get this weird feeling about that damn game.

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by joshsun on Dec 5, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions

I wasn't trying to imply these tasks were easy by any stretch

fortunately (from a certain point of view) they could lose that one and still make it.

Denver beats CHI this week and the Lions win the next two then loses the last two. I’m giving Chicago the SEA game and MIN games, but losing at GB so they finish 9-7, but the Lions get in based on a better record in the common games.

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by nuftjedi on Dec 5, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions

Sea is a better team than their record.

I am not ready to say Chi beats them right now.

BTW, I never took anything you said as it being an easy task ahead. I was just talking different scenarios.

by joshsun on Dec 5, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions

I agree about SEA

I was just trying to play worst case I didn’t want to take the total homer route and say Chicago goes 1-3 at best.

regardless the fact remains that the Lions control their destiny, they just need to win and they’re in.

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by nuftjedi on Dec 5, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions

I understand that

but saying Sea is better than Chi right now is not really being Homer ATM.

by joshsun on Dec 5, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions

What if Schwartz was fired?

would that change your projection?

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by CLF on Dec 5, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions

Next year yes

He is not getting fired right now and you know it.

How about you talk about the subject at hand? Do you think the Lions can take 3 of 4 to end our season? Can you see the Chargers game being a trap game after two wins?

by joshsun on Dec 5, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions

You mean a real discussion?

Are you up for it?

Or would you just like to tell me you’re right and be done with it?

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by CLF on Dec 5, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions

when u are right, I will admit it.

Saying Scwhartz is going to be fired this year is wrong and we both know it.

by joshsun on Dec 5, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions

Lol...

I’m thinking they fire him right after the GB loss to drop to 10-6, CLF. I always said that if this team loses more than 5 games, Schwartz has lost the team. They will bring in Gary Moeller to coach the playoff game… that’s my guess anyway.

by DrewsLions on Dec 5, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions

Jim Schwartz brought a team from 0-16 to winning at least 7 games in only three years

he’s earned a little leeway.

I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 6, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

That was sarcasm

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by CLF on Dec 6, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions

...and thick sarcasm at that. Lol...

by DrewsLions on Dec 7, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions

Would like SF

to lose a couple of games. Let New Orleans get the #2 seed. Would love to play SF in the 1st round.

by jeremy j on Dec 5, 2011 3:35 PM EST reply actions

Are you of the opinion their win against us this year was kind of a fluke?

by joshsun on Dec 5, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions

I think it was because of the coaching and Lack of discipline.

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by CLF on Dec 5, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions

lmao, nice sarcasm there

BTW, I think we lost that game because SF was the better team that day.

by joshsun on Dec 5, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions

IDK...

The Lions made alot of metal mistakes…

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by CLF on Dec 5, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions

No fluke

Any given Sunday, right? However, I do believe they will be the easiest team to beat in the playoffs. Sorry, even with their record just not sold on them.

by jeremy j on Dec 5, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions

two words

Alex Smith

two more words

game manager

two more words

nuff said

by joshsun on Dec 5, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions

I thought, and still do think

That we can crush the niners. We played a shitty game in week 6 and I’d love to face them in the playoffs again. Both teams would be fired up.

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by Bighaircut on Dec 5, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions

I agree.

I still contend that the 49ers are not nearly as good as their record. They have a good defense and an opportunistic offense that has gotten some lucky breaks and what appears to be some good coaching. A good defense can completely shut them down (i.e. Ravens).

I would wager a bet with anyone here that they are one and done in the playoffs… mostly because their first game will be the Saints.

by DrewsLions on Dec 6, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions

Yup.

I think almost every team that has lost to them wants a second shot. They certainly aren’t as good as their record is, and obviously not as good as their fans think.

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by Bighaircut on Dec 6, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions

This team in their current mentality cannot beat the 49ers.

I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.

by TheLoneDavid on Dec 6, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions

I think the niners losing Willis with a hammy could be huge

especially if he doesn’t fully recover this season.I too think the niners would be our best shot at winning a playoff game.(that is IF we make the playoffs).

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by cmonee on Dec 6, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions

not a fluke

but the Lions were literally two inches from winning that game. Lions stop the 49ers on 4th down late in that game, playoffs would be probable at this point.

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by simscity on Dec 5, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions

I think the playoffs are more than 50-50 likely right now

Granted, we would probably be a one and done team but yeah.

by joshsun on Dec 5, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions

Way to be positive.

by DrewsLions on Dec 5, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions

If you could look at our situation with any sort of objectivity

You would understand. Your lack of ability to do that is not my problem and I have grown weary of trying to explain that point of view to you.

Could we go on a run? Hell yeah. is it likely? Hell no, not with the teams we would have to face.

by joshsun on Dec 5, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions

Your penchant for always taking the negative path is growing weary on everyone else as well.

If you could look at yourself and the situation with any sort of objectivity you would see that.

You could have simply said that you think the playoffs are a 50-50 proposition, but no… you have to take that little extra step to make sure everyone realized that you expect them to lose. Screw that. If we get the 5 seed and get the Cowboys or Giants… I expect a win. Then we would likely go to GB as long as New Orleans wins. Then yeah, I would expect to lose that game, but be hoping for the best Lions’ team to show up that day. See the difference? Of course you don’t… how foolish of me.

by DrewsLions on Dec 6, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions

Your penchant for always taking the negative path is growing weary on everyone else as well.

Drew, the buy with the life line to the feeling of an entire blog. Gotta love ya.

Look at our recent record. How many wins have we had against winning teams? Yeah, how many losing teams are we going to face in the playoffs? yeah. The good thing, we seem to play our best ball on the road, which is where we will be.

You can put lipstick on a pig, it is still a pig.

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions

You know...

EVERY team in the NFL would be on the road if they were in our division. Sheesh.

You can be negative about a winning team, but it’s still a winning team… ;)

by DrewsLions on Dec 6, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions

winning record yup and I am happy for it

but we could and should have a better record right now. Starting 5-0 and ending up at 7-5 is not exactly great.

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions

You're not happy for it.... good grief.

If this is you happy, I’d hate to see you depressed. Wouldn’t that be a sight!

I have been disappointed by losses too, but once again… and I feel like I’ve said this about 50 times a season, every season… but I am only unhappy with the Lions if there is no progress made. This year, there is progress everywhere. I am happy. Wish we won a few more, sure… but very happy. I might get to see a January Lions’ game!

by DrewsLions on Dec 6, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions

The last half a season

we have taken one step forward and two back.

win a game lose a couple while disgracing our team and fanbase in the process. This is not progress, IMHO.

If that sounds like a what have you done for me lately opinion. Good, that is real life in the NFL.

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions

I don't feel disgraced.

I think it got a bit out of control, but I like the ferocity they are playing with. Once harnessed properly, we are going to be dangerous. You keep hating, I’ll keep hoping.

by DrewsLions on Dec 6, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

that is how you want your team, fanbase, city and state

represented?

No me.

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions

For a man, you sure are emotional....

Do you nag your friends as much as you do the Lions?

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by CLF on Dec 6, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions

If wanting my team, state, fanbase and city

represented with class and dignity is overly emotional, than yes. I am overly emotional.

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions

You need to look in the mirror...

…. Class and dignity don’t appear in any of your rants.

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by CLF on Dec 6, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions

Oh wait

Wanting my team to play within the rules. Not take cheap shots after the whistle. Not throw hissy fits like spoiled children.

Wanting my team to not do that kind of stuff makes me classless and have zero dignity?

What are you smoking?

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions

Seriously

Do you even think before you make these incredibly feeble attempts to insult me?

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions

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by CLF on Dec 6, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions

and there it is

The pointless pictures I talked about a day ago. What took you so long?

Your restraint has been noted.

SMH

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions

Personally,

I like this team as a wildCard….

Cause that’s what I see them as. No NFL team knows how to beat the lions… so they resort to exploiting their immaturity…. I love it. Those who can watch a game without watching the ball the whole time saw it in the N.O. Game and the GB game… the hidden shove, grab, punch, poke, pull.. .you name it.

Let Detroit beat themselves… that is what the NFL is saying… and I love it. That tells me that theres only one thing left for this team to do… and that is mature. Beer isn’t made overnight, neither is wine…

To me, Detroit is progressing faster than most teams… the only step left is to get over the emotional hump of maturity. The Saints game was the closest I hav eseen to a complete game yet…. the fundementals were sound, execution was great… immaturity was a complete failure.

NFL players aren’t stupid. This type of loss is a learning process of any team.

AND to add… I hope we play New Orleans in the first game of the Playoffs…. cause I know we are the team they DO NOT want to see again.

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by CLF on Dec 6, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions

that's a tall order

other than PIT I don’t see anyone that beats SF so even if NO wins out they only tie and SF keeps the #2 spot

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by nuftjedi on Dec 5, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions

Schwartz is not getting fired...

These penalties are not his doing, he is a hard nosed head coach. I love the man and I know he has the team going the right direction. Who cares if it comes with a label. The Ravens and Steelers all have labels for their defenses. but they win.

Cut out the selfish penalties and we can win 3/4 easily

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by The.Lions on Dec 5, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions

Playoffs????

“Cut out the selfish penalties and we can win 3/4 easily”,

,,,Duh! Isn’t that the problem, hasn’t that been the problem for the last 400 years!!!!!!!!! Come on. You ACTUALLY expect this team to literally cut a 180 and start winning like they did at the first of the season? It’s time you admit we caught some teams off guard and Minn/KC/Dallas not playing up to potential. The difference then and now is the Lions REALLY BELIEVED they were that good. They believed they could win. That has changed and changed dramatically. They also don’t think they get any respect(probably true for the most part); hence, the unsportsmanlike, personal foul type penalties after getting goaded and probably given some choice phrases concerning their family. They HAVE to learn this is not a high school playground! This is a professional team and they have to behave like MEN! The whole problem seems to be such a no-brainer, I don’t see how ANYONE cannot see it! I repeat what I said earlier; they will be lucky to win ONE more game and know that Minn. gave Denver all they wanted Sunday!

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by Ronbomb on Dec 5, 2011 10:33 PM EST reply actions

Well, hello Sunshine! Who pissed in your Cheerios today?

I think you and Joshsun just need to hug it out……..

by DrewsLions on Dec 6, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions

What exactly did he say that was so far off base?

I am not seeing much of anything.

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions

Wow...

for someone who is CONSTANTLY telling me I exaggerate to make my points, you have to ask that question? Read it again and then say “Oh… I see Drew. The guy is taking being pissed off to the next level. I see that he thinks we have been losing for 400 years. Yeah… that’s a bit ridiculous”. Okay?

by DrewsLions on Dec 6, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions

I see what you are saying and if you stopped there, it would seem like that

but did you read the rest. I would not call the rest exaggeration. Opinion that you most certainly do not agree with but not exaggeration.

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions

....and....

the fact that he is uber-pissed off and negative… which is why he needs a hug. He’s obviously not loved at home. He says we will only win one more game this year…. and by your statements, you concur…. correct?

by DrewsLions on Dec 6, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions

I think we have 2 wins coming.

and I think a lot of what he says is dead on.

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions

Of course you do.

I say we win three and play tough at Green Bay. If we win two… still going to probably be enough for the playoffs.

by DrewsLions on Dec 6, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions

probably yes

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions

To me his rant is full of

Excuses of why the Lions will keep on losing.

I’m sick of excuses.

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by CLF on Dec 6, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions

Your pointless comments

with no meaning or relevance is just sad.

by joshsun on Dec 6, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions

As are yours.

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by CLF on Dec 6, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions

BTW

Here’s a link, not sure if it has been posted. Seems I’m not the only one who thinks like this.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;ylt=AvMAuWy0VEbsaBUmVFzJSpU5nYcB?slug=dw-wetzeldetroit_lions_dumb_penalties_120511

Sir Ronbomb

by Ronbomb on Dec 5, 2011 10:38 PM EST reply actions

This coming from a media outlet that no one seems to agree with until it proves there point.

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by Michael21 on Dec 6, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions

?

it is

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get it right! lol

by joshsun on Dec 7, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions

Or

The POD

but that sounds like a bunch of dolphins then we could be talking about Miami

by joshsun on Dec 7, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions

or some sort of

futuristic escape vehicle used to bail out of dangerous situations…..

Hmmm…..

by joshsun on Dec 7, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions

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by Kalzilla on Dec 8, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions

lol

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