Lions Notes: NFL Fines Nate Burleson $7,500 For Facemask Penalty
by Sean Yuille on Dec 8, 2011 12:21 PM EST
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- Sunday's Vikings game is the Lions' 12th straight sellout at Ford Field.
- Straight from the you-can't-make-this-stuff-up department comes this news: Nate Burleson has been fined $7,500 for the facemask penalty he received during last Sunday's game against the Saints. Although what he did was technically worthy of a penalty, I really don't understand how it was a fineable offense. Then again, this is the same league that fined Burleson for wearing the wrong colored socks and penalized him three times in one game for pass interference. I suppose nothing should come as a surprise with the NFL anymore.
- Burleson said this week that "zero tolerance" has been instilled and that he doesn't think there will be "many more bonehead mistakes."
- Nick Fairley was in a boot on Wednesday after tweaking his injured foot against the Saints. This unfortunately indicates that Fairley will probably miss more time because of his foot injury.
- Aaron Wilson reports that the Lions tried out defensive tackles Daniel Muir and Jovan Haye this week.
- There was apparently quite the battle between CBS and NBC over the rights to the Week 15 matchup between the Broncos and Patriots. NBC wanted to flex the Tim Tebow vs. Tom Brady battle, but CBS ultimately managed to keep the game on its network and NBC was forced to keep the Ravens/Chargers matchup.
As pointed out by Albert Breer, there could be some epic lobbying between FOX and NBC for the Lions/Packers game in Week 17. If the Lions are playing for a playoff spot and the Packers are going for 16-0, that will be a very popular pick for the Sunday night game that week. - Philip Zaroo has more comments from Dominic Raiola about the Lions' penalty issues.
- As Tim Twentyman noted on the Lions' official site, Matthew Stafford is statistically having one of the Lions' best seasons ever for a quarterback.
- Jared Allen complimented Ndamukong Suh's style of play but also said "stomping on someone is just crossing the line." Apparently punching an opponent where the sun don't shine isn't crossing the line, though. I get that Allen and Ray Edwards are former teammates, but can you imagine the backlash if Suh did something like that, even if it was in a joking manner?
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I hope the GB game is not flexed
Its already going to be colder than a well digger’s ass at 1pm. I would hate to see how bad it gets by night.
hmmmm colder than a well digger's ass....hmmm lol
The first part of Twitter is twitt...don't be a twitt and tweet!
Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.
The coolest Lion nickname ever belongs to Dick "NIGHT TRAIN" Lane; the BAD-ASS LEO of all-time.
"Everybody just needs to Grow the F__k-Up... PERIOD! I mean, (bleep) bull-(bleep) needs to (bleep) stop... PERIOD... (BLEEPING... BLEEP, BLEEP) PERIOD! That's all I have to say about that."
Excuse me… I have a disease… my name is Gee, and I am a suffering Lions fan.
Follow me: Following B00Bs
by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 8, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Now there is a saying with an interesting origiin, I read this the other day...
In the old days of ships and cannons there was the problem of keeping the cannon balls near the cannon’s, especially when the seas were rough. They would use these pocketed plates to set the canon balls on and stack them into a pyramid shape, I believe there were 33 to a pyramid but don’t quote me. The plates they used were made of brass and they called them the brass monkey, when it got really cold the brass would constrict faster than the canon balls and the pressure would make the cannon balls pop loose. Thus it was “Cold enough the freeze the balls off a brass monkey”.
It is always interesting to find out where these sayings came from!
"My grandma could play behind that line!"- Zack Follett
Great research, doni...
I always got the image of the three monkeys of see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil in a blizzard.
The coolest Lion nickname ever belongs to Dick "NIGHT TRAIN" Lane; the BAD-ASS LEO of all-time.
"Everybody just needs to Grow the F__k-Up... PERIOD! I mean, (bleep) bull-(bleep) needs to (bleep) stop... PERIOD... (BLEEPING... BLEEP, BLEEP) PERIOD! That's all I have to say about that."
Excuse me… I have a disease… my name is Gee, and I am a suffering Lions fan.
Follow me: Following B00Bs
by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 8, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
I won't mind
slow their passing attack.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Dec 8, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
It goes in a cycle I suppose
Right now NFL is making money hand over fist. They go a little drunk with power. They will lose some fans, Lose some money eventually and reign it back in. i hope.
THE SILVER CRUSH!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Silver-Crush/228748293807946
I'm convinced now: The NFL is fixed.
How else do you explain Burleson getting a fine for a facemask penalty?
Effing ridiculous.
I do not believe Burleson is the first to get a fine for a facemask this year.
If he was, I might believe there is a conspiracy. However, since other folks have gotten them for facemasks and apparel, I’m willing to just concede they’re being dicks to everyone.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Really...???
I have not heard about that at all.
Well what if Tom Brady or Drew Brees does that? Will they get a penalty too?
Sorry but the NFL’s punishment scale varies from team to team and player to player, IMHO.
It does, I'm not in disagreement.
However, I’m just saying that its not just them being biased against our team in particular. They usually stick to in-game flags for that. The fines they’ve been handing out to everyone have been pretty ridonkulous. I firmly believe that Tom Brady can murder a guy on the field and be acquitted, but Pacman Jones? Not a chance. Its not just the Lions on this front, its all of the leagues ‘non Bradys’
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
True
And I didn’t mean “it’s just the Lions getting screwed.”
It is every team that isn’t part of the Golden Boys club of the NFL.
And with that clarification, I'm only left with this question:
Where’s the beef? because I have none.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Really?
Because as you said, the Tom Brady’s of the nfl can practically get away with murder. But anyone else…not so much.
I firmly believe that.
But he’s a Golden Boys member.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I think I may need to clarify
My metaphorical beef with your statements no longer exist. I do still have beef with the Golden Boys club.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
uh-oh... FLAG ON THAT COMMENT...
Personal Foul… Roughing the NFL… fan from the dirty team. Two years of bogus calls will be assessed from the point of the foul.
The coolest Lion nickname ever belongs to Dick "NIGHT TRAIN" Lane; the BAD-ASS LEO of all-time.
"Everybody just needs to Grow the F__k-Up... PERIOD! I mean, (bleep) bull-(bleep) needs to (bleep) stop... PERIOD... (BLEEPING... BLEEP, BLEEP) PERIOD! That's all I have to say about that."
Excuse me… I have a disease… my name is Gee, and I am a suffering Lions fan.
Follow me: Following B00Bs
by Gee Garold Lembach on Dec 8, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
A new report is out.
The referees union is now sueing the NFL after several referees experienced severe cases of tennis elbow. They blame the league for forcing them to throw flags early and often.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
the NFL is a pack of hypocrite douchebag assholes
what a bunch of bullshit. his hand got stuck. i really think they are trying to turn this team into the NFLs version of the bad guy wrestler, and it all started last year with delhomme. this is just another fine for no reason.
Exactly hay...
not much more to say really.
I hope someone tells Goodell to fuck off this weekend
by LionsD on Dec 8, 2011 1:23 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Is this even something Goodell has control over anymore?
I thought it was that committee. I see alot of comments about Goodell still and I’m wondering if we’ve just gotten in the habit of flaming him, or if he is in fact still in control of these situations.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
He's the commissioner.
Either step up and condemn unfair targeting of certain teams or you will be called out.
Goodell has no balls (expect when he is taking on the less popular teams/players). That’s no one’s fault but his own.
Wow
totally messed up my post…both times. wow…dumb computer.
I hate to defend the guy.
So I’m not going to. I just fear we’re making the ‘commissioner’ position a little more all seeing/powerful than it actually is. The extent of my knowledge on his duty position and responsibilities is slim, so I will just leave it that its a fear that we’re giving him too much power over this.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
What we're all irritated about is how rediculous the nfl has become.
Pointless penaltys and fines over the smallest offense and of course targeting certain teams more than others. Goodell won’t do anything to stop it as long as owners are making money. If still drives me nuts that nfl/owners have this total control of rules regulations and fines. Makes me wish the players would’ve told the owners to fuck off and keep your lockout. I love football but this league is driving me nuts.
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Dec 8, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I love football but this league is driving me nuts.
I’m powerless to do anything but agree with that.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Hate to agree with the last part of your statement...
but you are right on. Wish the owners were all told to EFF off. But hey, we have the power. Stop buying the product…and they will listen.
The 6 most penalized teams are
Oakland, Seattle, TB, Detroit, Carolina and San Francisco.
The 6 least penalized teams are
Jacksonville, Green Bay, Indy, Buffalo, Miami, and Washington.
Do you see any pattern here? I sure don’t.
The Steelers have managed to play pretty well despite being “targeted” for penalties and fines. It’s not a very good excuse for losing games.
No slogans. Just win!!!
i would look into when the penalty's occurred.
holding calls when ur backed up on a goal line vs. on plays at mid field that lead to TD’s aren’t the same.
Garbage time, makeup penaltys don’t have the same affect on a game as the ones we have been getting at critical times.
The Disassembly Line....nuff said.
It's the timing that makes me think...
…some of these ref’s regular paychecks come from Vegas.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
Yeah, timing is a problem.
We managed to come back to within a TD in the Saints game, then Logan snags a penalty for taunting, pushes us back to the 18, drive ends in a missed 55 yd FG attempt. Saints score after that.
Then we’re trying to come back again, Pettigrew pushes a ref and gets another PF. Another drive wheezes out.
No slogans. Just win!!!
Yeah, but
I don’t consider those bad calls necessarily.
I’m talking more about the PI’s and holds. The types of things that happen every play but for some reason are only called when they happen to be really important.
As opposed to offsides penalties that ARE usually called, but for some reason missed on a blocked field goal attempt? I mean, how many times are field goals blocked? You’d think that would be a red flag to maybe take a second look at the play to make sure everything was kosher…
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'm going to very gently attempt to defend the refs for a second.
They do miss calls, but they can’t review every single play. Even plays where weird stuff happens. That being said, it does seem like an easy miss when a guy is lined up offsides right?
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I'll actually agree there, Leo
The fact is, I can give the refs a bit of leeway. I’m a little worked up and I am exaggerating my hate for them. I don’t truly believe they’re on the Vegas payroll, but if somebody told me they thought that was the case, I honestly couldn’t argue.
As far as not having time to review the play, there’s a TV time-out every change of possession isn’t there?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
Yes, they could review more plays on timeouts
The question becomes should they? If they did, wouldn’t fans and teams complain that they are biased as to which plays they choose to review? The end of that road is every single play gets reviewed. Man, that’d make for nine hour games.
I, for one, cannot be convinced that NBA refs were not on the take. The NFL refs are not that bad, but I don’t like where they are trending.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Now that you mention it,
I think there are too many reviews too,
It sucks when you have to wait for reviews of obvious things. But, I feel like that should buy me a review on an unconventional play like that, right? The more reviews there are, the more I should expect them to get it right.
The weird thing is, I’m not really THAT pissed about that play. I’d chalk it up to “$hit happens” but it’s not the only thing. It just seems so much more widespread this year. Perhaps that’s because the bad calls are happening on bigger plays? Do you think there have been more bad calls (and non-calls) this year? I don’t know… but it seems like it to me.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'm not even sure there are more penalties.
Its just with the reviewing process, the whole shebang is alot more visible and we have way more time to stew in it.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Or...
perhaps I just care a lot more because the Lions are relevant, and seem to be getting screwed. (Having a winning record is still pretty weird for me lol)
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
Just think
in time, having a losing record will seem weird to you.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Like Leonuro, I'm not buying it.
The Lions have gotten 28 personal foul calls this year, 11 of them for unnecessary roughness or unsportsmanlike conduct. Those are the preventable penalties that are really hurting the team. You don’t see the Packers or Patriots committing those kinds of stupid penalties very often.
Anyway, a lot of our opponents have gotten flagged like crazy too (especially against the Lions) — SF, Atlanta, Bears.
No slogans. Just win!!!
I'm not talking just about the Lions...
I’m more referring to the immense inconsistency in officiating across the league.
BTW, I was referring to the plays like offsides and PI’s more than PF’s. How they’re called sometimes and ignored other times. Also, not calling Dietrich-Smith for a hold there sends a message to the entire league it’s okay to mess with a guy until he gets ejected. The league needs to take responsibility for these guys’ safety. (How can you get mad at a guy when he NEEDS to defend himself since the refs won’t do it?)
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
Screw that.
He’s in charge!
There’s a problem.
It’s his job to fix it.
Even if it’s not him that’s doing these things, it’s his responsibility to handle it.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
That's the reason I said I wasn't going to defend him.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Yeah, sorry.
That wasn’t directed at you. I’m just a little worked up right now.
It’s frustrating when you just can’t trust the league…
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
My bad
I thought you called me a dirty poster. I was about to threaten to hit you in the weiner.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
lol. Nope. Didn't mean to call you that.
But I do think you certainly are a “dirty poster”
That’s why I like you, Leonuro.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
Thank you Unda
I’m still going to punch you square in the weiner.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
There was nothing about punching me in the weiner! Only “threatening” to punch me in the weiner.
Wait. I guess that’s what you did.
Just keep in mind, if you ACTUALLY punch me in the weiner I will be pissed, and you’ve already leaked the secret on how to beat you in a fight…
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
Shit.
A mental error on my part for sure. Would you believe me if I said when I gave the blueprint of how to win a fight with me, that it was just a ruse? (please fall for that)
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
perhaps your previous statement was a ruse, but...
perhaps your last statement was a ruse.
Perhaps BOTH statements were a ruse and your rusing was just a big ruse playing on your original ruse!
A-HA!
But of course you would know that I would know that, so the first must be the ruse. However, perhaps you knew all along that I would know that you know I would know so the second would be the ruse.
Hmm…
You’ve beaten my giant, which means you’re exceptionally strong, so you could’ve put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you’ve also bested my Spaniard, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible,
Wait…
What were we talking about again?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
Great movie
Wait
Chick flick! yeah. Kids only.
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Any movie with Andre the Giant in it is good by me.
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GROW THE F UP
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It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
lol
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"You can get a win with undisciplined jack asses, you create a winning team with discipline and poise." by Leonuro
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Shhhhhhhhhhhh.....
Some people on this site don’t want to hear that Stafford is playing that well. They want to be content bitching about the negatives and spending their time picking nits about a 23 year old quarterback.
I for one hate it.
Then again, I quit bowling because I could only roll a 299, screw that right?
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Start him!
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Isn't that the same exact fine Trent Cole got
for the after-the-whistle judo flip that ended Okung’s season??
This shit is ridiculous.
IMO, these fines and horrible calls put the integrity of the NFL in question. Why bother watching the games?? Putting Madden on auto would be just as good. At least the refs would be consistent.
Everybody’s talking about how Schwartz needs to get his team under control. I think Goodell needs to get HIS team under control also.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
It's the same fine that Suh got for twisting Jake Delhomme's head.
No slogans. Just win!!!
Yeah, another play without an injury
(much less one that ENDED A PLAYER’S SEASON!)
SMH
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
by UndaDawg on Dec 8, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This team is pretty good...
but next year we could and should be in the top 4 teams of the league….think about who we will have next year,
Leshoure, Best, Smith, …someone else at RB is ten fold better than what we trotted out this year.
Get some work on the OLINE…Peterman replaced…
Suh in his 3rd year, healthy Fairley, Berry in his 2nd year (playing wise)…Stafford with more experience. Spievey with more experience…TD Young in his second year…
add in another draft class and possible trades…this team is going to POP
The Disassembly Line....nuff said.
I can smell what you're cooking...
…and it smells delicious.
BTW, any way we can draft a ref or two next year also?
(I’m pretty sure the Patriots do it like every year…)
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
how else can you explain the wins with that D...
The Disassembly Line....nuff said.
by Veihl789 on Dec 8, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
If I recall the play correctly
His facemask wasnt on purpose or excessive…I dont get what the fine is for.
Oh well, not my money
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
Yeah not that commentators usually know what the hell their talking about
But even they thought his fingers got hooked into the face mask. This fine makes no sense whatsoever.
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Dec 8, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Only reasoning
Nate saw $7,500 sticking out of the Saint’s helmet and he couldn’t take it out without having his hand in there a little longer. I suppose the NFL frowns upon removing money from other player’s helmets.
Fan of the Detroit Tigers, Lions and Red Wings.
Breaking news
the fine was a back handed one. None of my spies have yet to comfimr this, but Godell’s wife is guilty of roadhead.
read this on liar liar pants on fire……. so it must be true
"I like to win all the time, so all the time I play with myself."
Speaking of roadhead...
I guess we’ll know if thats what Suh was getting when he wrecked if he shows up to practice next week with a groin injury.
We've become so dumb we don't know how dumb we've become. Source Obscure.
Don't sweat the petty stuff & don't pet the sweaty stuff.
by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Dec 8, 2011 9:08 PM EST reply actions
Why.....
Blows my mind a penalty there is needed but I don’t understand the fine at all.
Lions 2011 "Luke 18:27"
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