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Shaun Hill Not A Fan Of Possible 18-Game Season

In addition to a number of other key issues, one of the biggest debates between the NFL and NFLPA has been how long the regular season should be. Owners want to extend the season to 18 games for obvious reasons (more regular season games equals more revenue), and the players don't want any part of it considering there are already so many injuries with a 16-game season. This issue will have to be resolved before a new collective bargaining agreement is agreed to, but there doesn't seem to be a good solution that appeases both sides right now.

As with most players, Detroit Lions quarterback Shaun Hill is squarely against the prospect of an 18-game season. Considering he dealt with multiple injuries last season, he knows how difficult it is to make it through a 16-game schedule. Adding two more games, in his opinion, would lead to even more injuries and in turn hurt the NFL in the long run.

"I'm heavily against it," Hill said last month. "You see the IR numbers this year were off the charts. It might have been a record year for number of players on injured reserve.

"At a certain point it kind of starts hurting the level of play. It hurts career longevity, all those things. They always want to talk about player safety. But then again they want to put 18 games in the regular season, and that's not really taking players' safety into consideration at all. But we'll see what happens with all of that. If they say play 18, I'll certainly play 18, though. We're hoping it doesn't come to that."

I'm with the players on this one. 16 games is plenty for the regular season. To extend it to 18 games would make injuries more likely, and not even taking player safety into account, I just think the season would drag on too long by game No. 18. Right now the NFL has a good scheduling system, and I think they would be doing a disservice to both the players and the fans if they extend the regular season. (I know many think more football is a good thing, but like Hill said, if the level of play drops because so many guys get hurt, it will hurt the game more than anything.)

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I think alot of guys are

and I can understand why. I really think they need to lay off the 18 games for now it would probably help move the new CBA along.

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by The Profiler on Feb 16, 2011 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

absolutely

16 games…is probably too much already and seems perfect as a fan. the injuries are playing too much into team viability in playoffs.

by x$pcents IV on Feb 16, 2011 12:56 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with Sean and Shaun on this...

The NFL’s original justification was that the “fans wanted an 18 game season,” but I don’t recall seeing anyone who follows football calling for that. My biggest problem with it is the same thing that’s been mentioned by everyone, the 16 game grind already takes a huge toll on players. There’s no reason to add 2 more to that at all.

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by Mogwai on Feb 16, 2011 1:40 AM EST reply actions  

I actually come down on the other side on this one...

I like the idea of an 18 game season. The major reason people are getting wigged about this is because they think they will be more injuries, and there probably will, but I don’t think significantly so. Injuries can happen at any time, no matter how long the season is. That’s sport, you deal with it and move on with someone else. I just don’t see two extra games messing with the level of play. In fact, in might be better for some players as they have more chance to come back from injuries if a season is longer. An 18 game schedule gives me 2 extra meaningful games, which to me means better shots for some teams to make the playoffs, which in turn means more excitement.

Plus, the NFL has quite a short season in comparison with many other sports. The NRL has a 24 game season and the injuries aren’t freakishly out of control. Teams adapt, and so do the players.

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by Hyperion Ecta on Feb 16, 2011 3:48 AM EST reply actions  

I'm still against it

and not because of injuries. I agree with you that the injury excuse isn’t the best. However, I think this falls into too much of a good thing. You say that we have a short season compared to other sports, and while that’s true, I feel that every one of the other major sports franchises (NBA, NHL and MLB) could cut their season practically in 1/2 and actually improve the product. Does anyone watch the regular season of these sports? Maybe here or there, but not like NFL. There isn’t that sense of urgency. The good teams know they’ll be in the playoffs. Also, as it stands now, we usually see a handful of teams packing it in towards the end of the NFL season because they’ve either locked up a playoff spot, or are pretty much out of it. Extending the season will absolutely not improve this, but rather make it worse. Parity is one of the things that makes the NFL great. And when you extend the season, you make it easier for the better teams to pull away.

If they do end up extending the season, they’ll have to add an extra bye week, extend the roster limits and dump a couple pre-season games.

by vanman on Feb 16, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

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by Sean Yuille on Feb 16, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Very well said.

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by Lionsfan8 on Feb 16, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You want 18 games ?

O.K., fine. Eliminate 2 of those stupid pre-season jokes. All games count and keep fat rosters until final cut down after week four. Even then, I’d like to keep an expanded game day list of 57 and protect practice squad members from cherry picking. Make it mandatory every member of that practice squad is activated to play in at least two games a year. More games = more player participation…

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by Keevatron on Feb 16, 2011 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

Uh... that's the plan...lol...
O.K., fine. Eliminate 2 of those stupid pre-season jokes.

by CLF on Feb 16, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Take a look at MLB, NBA..... and even Hockey.

TOO LONG of seasons. It really killed the NBA when they shot up to like 80 games a season…

Really, what does it prove? nothing…. it just bores the game.

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by CLF on Feb 16, 2011 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

Totally agree

Always leave them wanting more. That’s what’s made the NFL such a hot commodity.

by vanman on Feb 16, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

18 games means players resting and missing games healthy, so no.

Although giving up on football means a lot less beer and wing consumption, so whatever.

by Jamesir Bensonmum on Feb 16, 2011 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

The owners could retaliate

 Just tell their coaches to play their starters for 4 qtrs in the final 2 pre-season games.
So might as well make those games count.

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by Wayne Fontes on Feb 16, 2011 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

You know, I don't know where I fall on this one.

I have to admit that I feel like 2 more games is just 2 more games. Not like it’s going to miraculously start causing all these career ending injuries, etc. They would likely increase the roster sizes and make the appropriate adjustments. And we just get to watch more meaningful games, which is nothing but a plus in my book.

But there are drawbacks as well. I hate that every record is once again going to get shattered. Suddenly 4,500 yds passing and 1,800 yds rushing becomes common. I’d also hate to see the “resting the players” bit become more common.

I guess for me, swapping 2 meaningless preseason games for two meaningful regular season games is a win. I don’t buy into the outrage from the players over a significant rise in injuries… I just don’t. No different from a team that currently plays into the post season. Players are going to get hurt. They can and most likely will play 18 games in the future and they will be fine doing it.

by DrewsLions on Feb 16, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

I believe 18 games would water down the leauge and am very much against it.

Seems to me more players will be hurt. Suddenly teams who should be a Super Bowl fav. will be without their QB and it will affect effect everything the NFL is. ALL games are important for the most part for the entire season, minue the teams who have home field advantage won by week 15 or whatever. You will see a lot more of meaningless games. Not every game will be as important due to the fact they can make up losses. Not that I like the Pats but what if Tom Brady got hurt in a game 18 on their record breaking season. Yes they lost that Super Bowl but it made for one of the best Super Bowls I have seen and a entertaining season.

by Joey-P on Feb 16, 2011 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with Hill

18 is dumb. Too many games. More is less, less is more. Besides I was afraid that we see Matt Flynn vs. Byron Leftwich in the Super Bowl this year. I shudder over a potential Brian Hoyer vs. Drew Stanton match-up.

Besides I hate it already when people marvel at the records. What OJ did in 14 games is rarely topped by those in 16 already. What Marino did in 14 was only almost equaled by Brees in 16 in what has become a pass happy league.

What enrages me is when Godell acts like he speaks for the fans. Can anyone tell me one thing Godell has done right? He has no clue what fans want, his punishments seem to be arbitary, and seems intent on taking what is not broke and shattering it into millions of pieces.

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by Panic in Detroit on Feb 16, 2011 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

don't really care either way

I’ll watch 16 or 18 lions games. Doesn’t matter. They get paid enough to play an extra couple games. We’ll see what happens.

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by Skylar on Feb 16, 2011 11:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Crazy idea....

Move to 18 but only allow any one player to play in 16 games and no more. This would call for a bit more strategy within the regular season and may even give a chance for lesser known players to show their stuff. Plus it would quiet down the people who are worried about more injuries.

This will never happen but it would definitely create some interesting middle of the week conversations as to who would be starting.

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by SSG_Butcher on Feb 18, 2011 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

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