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Report: Lions Sent List Of Some Pre-Draft Visits To Entire League

Each NFL team is allotted 30 pre-draft visits. When those visits happen, NFL teams, by rule, are supposed to send an email to the NFL to let them know who they hosted. An email notifying the league about a visit doesn't need to be sent until it actually takes place, which is partly because some visits can come about in the final days leading up to the draft.

On Saturday night, Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio reported that the Detroit Lions sent an email about some of their pre-draft visits to the entire NFL rather than only the league office. This means that the NFL's other 31 teams got a look at the list, which contained an unknown amount of names of players that the Lions had hosted for visits. Florio reports that the Lions did the same thing when Matthew Stafford was placed on IR last season, sending the email to the entire league rather than only the league office.

As expected, Florio mocked the Lions for this supposed mistake by mentioning Matt Millen's tenure with the franchise. He also tried to connect the dots with his sources' information to what Jim Schwartz had to say at the NFL owners meetings last month in response to a question about the Lions' website reporting on the visits.

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"The fact is, everybody in the league knows (whom we're bringing in)," coach Jim Schwartz said during the NFL meetings last week. "So if everybody in the league knows, it really doesn't matter. And if it's interesting for the fans, ... then I'm all for it."

Tom Kowalski clarified what exactly happened, according to his "information," stating that Schwartz "was not discussing an e-mail error when he said the team would become more open in making that list available to the public." Kowalski noted that information about pre-draft visits isn't exactly a big secret anyway with agents spreading the word to teams about where their clients have visited, and he also made it clear that all of the Lions' visits were not in that email.

It can be inferred from the PFT report that the Lions' entire list of 30 pre-draft visits has been compromised. That is not the case. By my calculations, the Lions have about half of their visits remaining and, at this stage of the game, they don't even know who will be invited yet for some of those remaining visits.

As Lions general manager Martin Mayhew has said in the past, the Lions hold back many of those pre-draft visits to get the latest possible medical information available. They also hold back some of the visits for players who might have slipped through the cracks and weren't invited to the scouting combine. The Lions haven't had those personnel meetings yet so the identity of some of those players isn't even known at this point.

What I find interesting about this whole being secretive or not so secretive about draft visits story is that Dave Birkett pointed out that the Lions didn't report Jimmy Smith's visit on their website. That shows that they are being at least somewhat selective with which names are publicized as having visited Allen Park. Also, it's worth pointing out that, as Schwartz said, the Lions didn't even host Jahvid Best for a visit last year. Despite that, they traded up to draft him in the first round.

The disclaimer I have presented when tracking these visits is that you shouldn't try to read into them too much. Like Schwartz said, it is fun for us fans to track, but it's not like they are a great indicator of who might be picked in the draft. That is why I don't see this email thing as being a huge "blunder" at all. Hell, with the way Martin Mayhew and company are so secretive with some information, perhaps they meant to send it to the rest of the league. You never can be too sure, but even if this was a mistake I don't see it as being a very big one. It's not like the Vikings or some other team picking ahead of the Lions is going to alter their draft strategy over some names in an email about pre-draft visits. That would be almost as ridiculous as how PFT framed this story in the first place.

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This was no accident

The Lions want it to look like a mistake. It’s all part of their strategy this year.

by Forward Down The Field on Apr 4, 2011 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

I think they want it to look like an “embarrassing accident” and confuse the hell out of the other GMs. I find it interesting they were selective with which names they put in and I think it would be even better if they threw in a name or two that didn’t attend just for sh[tz and giggles anyway. I have to wonder if Jimmy Smith is on their short list at 13 and they left him off so other teams don’t get wind of their interest.

by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Apr 4, 2011 3:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

To clarify

We don’t know who was or wasn’t on the list. The Jimmy Smith thing was referencing the lack of an article about his visit on the Lions’ site.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 4, 2011 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah. Good point.

That could have just been an oversight on their webmasters part.

by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Apr 4, 2011 5:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why did NBC ever join with PFT?

PFT has been the absolute worst sports reporting website over the last three years. Nobody has been more wrong than PFT. They routinely report rumors as truth. I just don’t get the draw. NBC is a respected network and I love most things about them. But to me, this is a fatal partnership that needs to be destroyed. Florio is a hack and everything about that site is just wrong.

by JFisch on Apr 4, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

With you on that-

I don’t think that this was done on accident. In fact, if you were a team looking to trade up in the draft for a particular player, you might want to look at who teams are bringing in to find your trade partner. I think that this is a sign that the Lions want to trade back in the draft because they aren’t sold on anyone in specific for the #13 selection. If one of the teams #14-32 are looking at a specific player that falls to Detroit, and Detroit has brought them in for a visit it would make good sense to make the trade for both parties.

Mayhew, Schwartz, & Lewand are the smart kids in class, with a mix of street savy skills to compliment each other. I have faith that they are playing a good game of poker with this draft. My guess is that they have a player or two in mind that they want in the draft but feel that they can get him a few picks farther back than their at with the #13 pick. Why not try to get some additional picks out of the gamble?

by Detroitfantc on Apr 4, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely

my line of thinking as well. Doing everything they can to entice other teams to trade with them so they can acquire more picks. Guarantee you that if it was a blunder, the guilty parties would have been fired immediately. Florio is an idiot and NBC USED to be a good cable company. The only shows I really watch on there now are SVU and Los Angeles. Everything else can suck it.

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by KFFE on Apr 4, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Florio is a goon!

No biggy so what if everyone knows who visited. That dosen;t mean that we neccisarily even want them. It’s intresting for the fans…It means nothing else. All this proves is PFT has become a complete joke and Mike Florio has an ego it’s not enough to tell the facts you have to tell them and make them look bad too. Sean please never jump to PFT or Bleecher report thanks in advance LOL. Wouldn’t suprise m if this started with Mayhew saying..I got an idea!

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by The Profiler on Apr 4, 2011 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

PFT is the tabliods of the NFL

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by chucka on Apr 4, 2011 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

The error is embarrassing but not harmful

It’s another excuse for writer’s to make us the butt end of their jokes, but as you covered in the article, the damage this error caused is literally zero (aside from the embarrassment)

by simscity on Apr 4, 2011 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Its all a smoke screen

I highly doubt that the Lions would make this mistake twice.

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by JCruize on Apr 4, 2011 3:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I reckon you may be right

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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 4, 2011 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is this could be right

I can’t help but think of how we’d feel and the comments I’d be reading about this if it happened three years ago.

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by Elfuego51 on Apr 4, 2011 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is classic.

The media moans and complains that the Lions are too tight lipped and don’t share any information with them, then some worthless piece of info “slips” out and they start braying that the Lions are incompetent.

Some scumbag reporters are not that hard to figure out.

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by NorthLeft12 on Apr 4, 2011 7:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Death to "Reply All"

I don’t know if it was intentional or not… But many of us have replied all when we simply meant to reply.

I once told my whole office that the cake someone brought in for us tasted “of poo.” True story. Luckily, I was able to play it off as a joke. However, it was all reply all’s fault.

I hate that button… While convenient, they should move it over a few spaces. Lol. I’d bet money—if not intentional—that the dreaded reply all button played a factor here.

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by Forty Handz on Apr 4, 2011 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

curious to say the least

Could they have accidentally done something twice? sure. its possible, but mistaking two different lists of email addresses is kinda hard if you ask me.

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by Latif Masud on Apr 4, 2011 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Who cares?

Who cares who knows what. I mean, giving or holding back info can all be used in a way that keeps other teams guessing as to who we will or won’t draft. Last year, we had in a whole slew of players who were never drafted by the Lions. In fact, Lions never even talked to Best, who we did draft. So it doesn’t matter one bit whether we intentionally or unintentionally sent the info to other teams. No matter what, until the pick is made, no one will no who we wanted or didn’t want come draft day.

by UniBallOut on Apr 4, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I think anybody from another team that wanted this list to begin with could find it

Is it really hard to stick some dude out the front of Ford Field and see who goes in and out? Or to just surf on over to the Lions website…it’s all right there. This is basically non-news. PFT are a bunch of rejects.

by JFisch on Apr 4, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I doubt this was an accident.

If I was going Into the draft I would want everyone around me to think I didn’t know what Im doing. It’s like the guy showing up to the poker game saying he has no clue how to play and ends up raking everyone’s money and cars.

by chaunce on Apr 4, 2011 12:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Exactly

This does two things. A: a team ahead of us reaches on a guy so someone falls to us. B: a team after us trades up and again, someone falls or they trade with us and we gain more picks.

by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Apr 4, 2011 3:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is that all it takes to be a writer on the internet?

Man Florio, I want your job. Do some real reporting.

by Mavyrk on Apr 4, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

This is all BS...

Teams don’t E-mail each other. All E-mails are sent through the NFL and then distributed to the addressed team. To prevent collusion and tampering.

If a mistake was made, it was on the part of the NFL, Not the Lions.

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by j16941 on Apr 4, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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