Ask POD: What Are The Chances Of The Lions Signing Nnamdi Asomugha?
by Sean Yuille on May 30, 2011 2:00 AM EDT
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Anonymous writes: "Do you think Detroit Lions have a chance to sign Nnamdi Asomugha?"
Without a doubt, the free agent most NFL fans will be keeping an eye on once the lockout ends and the league year begins is cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. In a usual offseason he would be going through minicamps and OTAs with his new team, but we don't even know where Asomugha might be interested in signing thanks to the lockout. There have been whispers about possible landing spots, but until free agency opens it will not be clear where Asomugha is likely to end up.
Keeping that in mind, it's fair to say right now there is a chance the Lions will sign Asomugha. How likely is it that they will? That depends on who you ask. Some have said Asomugha wants to play for a proven team, whereas others have suggested he will go where the most money is. SI's Peter King said he wouldn't be surprised to see the Lions open up their checkbook for Asomugha, although they are probably a "dark horse" in this situation.
I tend to agree with King about the dark horse part. I think the Lions will make a run at Asomugha, but in the end I don't think it's likely he will end up signing with them. They did make a couple big signings with Nate Burleson and Kyle Vanden Bosch a year ago, but I don't know if they would be willing to pay what Asomugha will likely be looking for. Besides, I'd be willing to bet that Asomugha does end up going to a team that is a proven winner. Unlike the Red Wings, a team that free agents in the NHL take less to sign with, the Lions would probably have to pay even more than the going rate to land Asomugha. While they are an up-and-coming team and he could be the final piece of the puzzle for the defense, I just don't think Asomugha would want to play for a franchise with a history of losing after spending the first part of his career in Oakland.
While the perception of the Lions is greatly changing, I can't blame a free agent for wanting to play for a team that has already proven it can win. A year from now the Lions may be one of those teams, but for now we all think and hope they will have a great 2011 season. If Asomugha were to sign with Detroit, it would be much more likely the Lions would contend for a division title and make a playoff run, of course, but I just think he will end up landing with a team that has already won. He is going to get paid no matter where he goes, but I think he would require a bigger deal to play in Detroit.
I'm not about to rule anything out, so I would say there is definitely a chance the Lions could sign Asomugha. At this point I just don't think it's likely. I'd love to be wrong, though.
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10%....
but it would be pretty awesome if it happened. I think we can make a run at him if we were willing to give him a TON of guaranteed money even if the cap number wasn’t ridiculous. 36mil for 4 years or 45mil for 5 years. That gives him a mil more a year than Revis.
Malek
by Matthew Malek on May 30, 2011 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions
My question would be
Why spend that much on 1 corner. With your DL, do you really need the best corner in the league?
Pick 21: OLB Justin Houston
Pick 30: C Rodney Hudson
Pick 86: NT Kenrick Ellis. (Ellis in the 3rd = Taylor in the 1st + 1st round pick).
Problems solved. Please forget about Phil Taylor.
Frankly, I have no idea how serious Mayhew is about Nnamdi.
After the offer to the Cardinals for Peterson was revealed, I am beginning to think he might be very interested in signing Asomugha.
It fits with Mayhew’s strategy of using free agency to fill in roster holes with proven NFL players, instead of forcing draft picks to fill them.
Remember, Asomugha may not be as expensive as people are thinking for Detroit as signing him will undoubtedly mean that Houston will be allowed to leave. Houston may have to be paid at least six million a year, so Asomugha will be less than ten more above that. Maybe?
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
Very good point, North.
I would have said that they would likely not even pursue Asomugha, but after hearing that they made a true big-time play for Patrick Peterson, I think it’s much more possible. We all know the Lions need a true number one corner. The fans know it. The players know it. The coaches know it. And yes… Mayhew knows too. I think he already knows whether or not he is going to make a play for him. And if he plans to do that, it won’t be a half-hearted attempt. They will try hard to land him. If that’s the case, the Lions definitely have a shot.
I don’t think that money is as big an issue as some think. I think they’ll pay him if they think he’ll be that player that changes the entire dynamic of the defense… which I firmly believe he is. Anyway… should be interesting to see how that whole thing shakes out.
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the question that i would like to see answered is how much is nnamdi going to get?? is he going to get haynesworth 100 million over 7 years money?? or like 45 over 5 years? im saying much closer to fat al.
I'll let Lewand and Mayhew worry about that.
If they think the Lions can afford it and he may be worth it, then go for it.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
His market value is at an all time high
Expect him to go to the highest bidder at a range of 14-18 Million per year.
by Millen_Free on May 30, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
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Until a CBA gets finalized, we’re not going to know for sure. Haynesworth-type contracts may not even be possible w/ a new CBA.
Nnamdi already said he wants to play for a contender, and quite frankly, we haven’t done squat yet. We look extremely good, on paper. I’m sure he’s looking for a team a little more established.
Don’t get me wrong, I would wet myself if it actually happens. I have no doubt Mayhew will, at the very least, give it a shot. The guy is a 3 time Pro Bowl selection. In a 4 year period between 2007-10, teams completed a mere 41 passes against him. He is well worth trying everything humanly possible to get him here, I just don’t see it happening.
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I would say 5% and that's optimistic
Back in Jan or feb he was on 1st take or some espn show and the lions where brought up he shot the idea down quickly
RIP KURTIS CHAIVRE
When was that DET32????
In January you say. . . And since then we added 3 more very intriguing pieces to the puzzle, Staff and SUH and Megatron have been doing the rounds playing catch with Ocho Stinko, Suh and Staff have been showing up all over the country putting the positive vibe out there about the Lions. . . Just saying this team had grown a bunch since January.ESPECIALLY with Staff’s shoulder fully recovered from surgery.
How many lumps you want Doc?
32 is right.
He was on mike and mike in march and when they mentioned the lions he made a face like they were crazy for even mentioning Detroit.
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on May 31, 2011 1:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Absolutely 5% at most. I'd love to be wrong.
The Lions, despite the optimist here on POD, optimism that I share most of the time, are not close to title contention. 6-10 last season. I do not see Asomugha leaving the Raiders to come to a 6-10 rebuilding Lions franchise.
Detroit has a great front office, and some fantastic young talent, but the head of the team is the Quarterback and we still have yet to prove we have playoff-level talent in that slot. If I were him I would pass on any team that doesn’t have a reliable name at QB. This team isn’t good enough yet to cover for Stafford if he goes down again, and his actual W/L record reflects a still unknown quantity at the position.
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Am I wrong for not wanting this guy?!
I do not want Asomugha. Yeah I said it. Shoot me. I HOPE there is 0% chance we sign him.
He’s 29 and fast approaching that magic age for RBs, speed WRs, and CBs. He’s whiny and over-priced.
I realize that he is a shut-down CB in most respects, but he isn’t going to be forever. At some point, he is going to start to deteriorate, and when he does it will most likely be quick. Nobody knows if that’ll happen at 37 or 31. Signing this guy could be a huge score if it turns out like Woodson did for the Packers. However, if it turns out the other way, it’s a HUGE setback. First, we lose 15-20 million a year. Second, we lose the time for a young guy to get acclamated to that spot. I just don’t like the risk.
If we sign him, so be it. MAyhew knows what he’s doing. I wouldn’t be pissed, but I’m not going to slate us in for the Super Bowl either.
Dude is going to get seriously overpaid.
I hear you. I’d like him at a reasonable contract, but that’s not likely to happen. Somebody is going to pay him too much for too long.
by Big Z in Orlando on Jun 1, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
We will make a run
With a very lucrative contract. In the end though Asmougha is gonna chase that ring. Who can blame him I think he might take less if he believes I will get him to the big dance. Our D Line will probably intrigue him but not enough to lock him in.
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by The Profiler on May 30, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm not so sure about that..
If he signed on our chances of making the playoffs skyrocket. We all know anything can happen in the playoffs. We stand as good of chance as anyone to go on a run if he would to suit up for the good guys
by CR on May 31, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
the way i see it is there are probably 8 to 10 teams in contention. the lions, texans, eagles, cowboys, redskins, jets (however unlikely), falcons, ravens and of course he could decide to return to the raiders.
It doesnt seem like the raiders are likely, or the jets. who knows what the redskins will be able to afford if the salary cap is cut like it likely will be.
So if you get rid of those 3 you have 6 teams.
The texans need a corner the most and with their explosive offense could think he’s the missing piece to really make them a contender, so they could suprise everyone and make a huge offer.
The cowboys get all the publicity and it seems like every nfl player wants to play for.
In phili he’d get to play opposite Asante Aamuel which could be really intriguing. and its a blitz happy defense.
The falcons just gave up a ton of draft picks and seem to believe that they really are right on the edge. also by giving up those picks they will need to find first round talent through free agency so they could be a real contender.
The ravens seem to be an old team on the decline but after going after some big name recievers last year have proven they’re not afraid to go after elite talent. ant they had their secondary exposed all last season. plus he’d get to play behind the ravens line and with ray lewis.
and then the lions and you all know their story. I’d say they have a chance but there will be some stiff competition. Which team would you choose?
Interesting points
Seems like the Texans are in a very similar position as us (although their secondary was much worse last year). I can’t see the Falcons going after Aso given the money they spent on Daunta and the emergence of Grimes (unless they trade Daunta or something – he was a disappointment for the money…I think they’ll offer Grimes a nice contract).The Eagles could be the front runner if they have space – they’ve proven to be explosive on offense and with Asante there, Aso would get more opportunities to defend passes…I could also see the Ravens if they don’t plan on resigning Carr. You probably can’t rule out the Cowboys but I also don’t think Jerry thinks his secondary is as bad as stats showed last year…10% I’d say is generous for our chances just because of what it’d mean for addressing our other weaknesses….
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+1
Add to the mix that the Texans are also changing defense’s it could be a couple of years before they get back on the same page, The Falcons by giving up all those draft picks might actually be in a seriously good spot to actually make the best run at Asu, if you think about it they only have this years top draft pick to sign and they gave up all of next years top draft picks for JJ so they don’t have to worry about signing next years first round pick either.I just don’t see the Eagles being in contention because you are talking about a guy who has played in the sun of LA for his entire career and now you think he really wants to go play in the East where the weather gets nasty just after the season starts. . . .I don’t see them as even a contender.Dallas has to be considered only because of Jerry I can out spend everyone Jones, and his money has all been going down the toilet the last few years with Roy and Kitna, then Last years HEAD CASE at the WR position. . . .I just see the Lions being in a better place than all the teams you mentioned other than maybe the Cowboys for reasons that rames has stated. Heres another dark horse and I don’t know what kind of cap money they have to play with but SD SUPERCHARGERS are very close and he would not have to sell his house to play for them most likely.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Meh,
I see us resigning Houston, then going after a CB and LB for the same price it would take to sign Nnamdi
Your not going to get 2 top CB's and 2 better than average LB's for 18 mil. If your lucky you get 1 and 1.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Would love to have him but.
I would rather have him come here because he actually wants to not because we are the highest bidder, I know it usually does not work like that. I would just rather not tie that much up in to a player that is going into his 8th or 9th year, besides if there is a salary cap in the new cba we need to make sure we have enough money to resign Calvin. We are going to have to pay him alot. but if we do get Nnamdi that would be cool also. I trust Mayhew.
by go lions @ go zags on May 30, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions
I would love it...
But in my opinion it is a moot conversation. I am more content to focus on who ELSE we can get, because my bet is that Asomugha doesn’t touch Detroit with a 500 mile pole.
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by delusional on May 30, 2011 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He should be invited to work out at country day
if by some long shot he decides to come i think that would drastically improve the lions chance of singing him; if he sees how dedicated the team is to winning and winning now i think he might want to be apart of that team….. Or suh could just threaten to jake delhomme him if he doesn’t sign.
Please no
We have a ton of young pieces that are going to need contracts in upcoming years. Delmas, Calvin, Levy are all core parts of this team, so we can’t go spend 15 mil a year on a 30+ yr old corner. We need solid players, not star ones. We have enough stars.
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I would much rather have Joseph...
I think Houston will be back and would love to add Joseph if not i can live with with Wright Jennings or Marshall.
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by SmittyJ on May 30, 2011 11:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if we got Nnamdi,
We would have one of the better defenses in the league. I’m sure a lot of you, and other lions fans think its good as is, but its not that good. Sure we have the best line in the league, but other than that, it stinks, bad. If we got Nnamdi, then no more mediocre WRs (Branch) burning us on national freakin tv. We were dominating that game until they (Patriots) started throwing the ball all over us. Look, I know its Brady, and all, but still, with a good corner opposite Houston, we’d be a force to reckon with.
Stafford will be great!!! If his arms don't fall off!!!
I'd rather stay away.
We have a nice group of young corners to continue to develop. I would rather get someone like Rogers for a cheaper cost, resign Houston and add 1 or 2 LBs as well.
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on May 31, 2011 1:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
He doesn't want to play for us. Dude ROLLED HIS EYES when asked about Detroit.
He wants to play for a contender. 0% chance. And I think Mayhew said something along the the lines of “No BIG names this year for the Lions” Also Mayhew could get 2-3 players, 2 LBs and 1 CB instead of just 1 player. I like Nnamdi though.
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No way we get three players for passing on Nnamdi.
1. We will almost be forced to resign Houston, probably paying well over his market value as we may be desperate for a reliable corner. If we sign Nnamdi, Houston is gone and the other corner spot is up for grabs between Alphonso, Vasher, and Berry with Pratt as a developmental CB.
2. With the difference in cash, the Lions would have enough to get one impact player at OLB. Someone like Manny Lawson. Plus, possibly one other OLB who might be in the same ability range as Palmer and Carpenter.
I agree that Nnamdi seemed less than thrilled horrified at the thought not enthusiastic about joining the Lions, but his opinion could change based on what he sees and hears over the “recruiting” period.
I don’t see anything negative over adding a player who is regarded as one of the best in the NFL at his position which happens to be a position of need for the Lions.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
think about it
The long lock out doesn’t hurt the Lions chances of signing NA. At least he’s had time to think about it, and the more then if he would have signed early. His first reaction might not be his final decision.
I’m just sayin’…
Not gonna happen
and I am glad for it. We have young corners and I would rather have a player that has something to prove than a player that wants his contract to prove his worth. There are several other less expensive corners that would excel in our defense simply because the QBs genuinely fear for their well being. That makes a QB throw faster, limiting the time a CB actually has to cover.
Who really wants their head twisted off like a bottle cap?
Hell, call our D line the Bottle openers for all I care.
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