Doug Hogue Scouting Report
by Sean Yuille on May 6, 2011 12:31 AM EDT
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LB Doug Hogue (Syracuse) - Round 5, Pick No. 157
One of the Detroit Lions' most pressing needs going into the 2011 NFL Draft was at linebacker. Many believed Detroit would address this need on day two, but they waited until the fifth round to take a linebacker. That's when they selected Doug Hogue, who only switched to linebacker from running back a couple years ago.
Experts' Opinions
Hogue is a very good athlete, but he is extremely raw and may never be able to contribute at the next level. He has excellent speed to make plays all over the field and has the lateral agility to be effective in both man and zone coverage. However, he struggles to locate the ball carrier and is frequently caught out of position. He also gets engulfed by blockers too often and lacks the hand placement and technique to shed quickly. Hogue is a work in progress, but he has a chance to be drafted if he runs really well.
Positives: Athletic linebacker who displays tremendous skill in space. Shows good awareness and instincts to quickly locate the ball. Gets depth on pass drops, displays outstanding skill in coverage, and constantly around the ball. Very aggressive and productive in his all-around game. Fluid pedaling in reverse and smooth opening his hips in transition. Stays with tight ends or running backs down the field, plays with explosiveness, and moves quickly in every direction. Immediately alters his angle of attack and loses no momentum. Breaks down well and uses his hands to protect himself.
Negatives: Lacks bulk and easily controlled at the point of attack. Gives effort defending the run but not stout at the point.
ESPN:
He is undersized and lacks elite point-of-attack skills. However, he moves well laterally with above-average range and can hold up in coverage.
Stats
2008: 2 tackles
2009: 72 tackles, 9 sacks, 1 forced fumble, 1 interception
2010: 95 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 forced fumble, 2 interceptions
Videos
More:
- 2011 Draft Profile: Doug Hogue
- 2011 combine workout: Doug Hogue
- Press conference after Maine game
- Press conference after Northwestern game
Outlook for 2011
Hogue is not expected to be an instant starter or anything like that. Instead he is someone that will likely take some time to develop and in the meantime will get work on special teams. It's likely the Lions will address their need at linebacker during free agency (whenever that begins) with someone like Stephen Tulloch or Stephen Nicholas.
Previously: Nick Fairley, Titus Young, Mikel Leshoure
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I'm really excited
to see what he has to offer. Seems to have great athleticism, I just hope our coaches can mold him into a capable pro.
lol@scouts
nfl.com says “he struggles to locate the ball carrier”
while SI says “Shows good awareness and instincts to quickly locate the ball.”
From the little I’ve seen of him I think he seems to have a good football IQ and might just develop in to something.
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+1
And I like the fact that he transitioned so well. He picked up the position fairly quick.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
Hogue played MLB all through high school.
Like a lot of other best athletes on the team, he played both sides of the ball, so linebacking is not something completely new to him.
"I read one article, I said, 'This guy doesn't know what he's talking about,' " Mayhew said. "Then I read another one, and I thought, 'Wait a minute, they're all saying the same thing.' -Martin Mayhew 2011 regarding Draft Gurus.
I think they mean
he is slow to locate running backs coming out of the backfield, but locates the ball quickly when it is in the air on passing plays.
I have hopes for him
Also, a not so shameless plug, Ty over at The Lions in Winter has a meet the cubs series that is really good and in depth. So far he has up Culbreth and Hogue. Between the stuff here and that stuff it is pretty much all you need to know about the players. Obviously there is a lot of carry over between the two, but in these dry days of NFL news, some things are worth reading twice. =D
Also a side note:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81fb2ef7/NFC-North-draft-grades
Like most analysts that are not familiar with the Lions intimately, they harp on the phantom need for a left tackle as being the reason for not getting a better grade.
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Ty is a champ
I always read his stuff.
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by Hyperion Ecta on May 7, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Lets be honest....
This kid was drafted specifically for immediate Special teams impact.
If he turns into a decent LBer, great.
Motown313-"spending a first rounder on the next Jared Devries doesn’t seem like a good gameplan."
Yes
Can make the team and has upside – great
Mayhew - " I think there are also a lot of positions where you see what's on the horizon and look down the road and look around the corner, it might not make sense on its face right now to add a player, but if you look down the road, it makes sense to add a player.'' Notice how he said "corner"
by StaffordSuperBowlMVP on May 6, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
How is 6-2 235 undersized.
Sure he needs to put on some muscle….Ray Lewis is 6-1, Stephen Tulloch is 5-11, Chad Greenway 6-2, James Anderson, 6-2, Patrick Willis 6-1….I’m looking through the leading tacklers for last season, I’m having a hard time finding ANYONE over 6-2….most guys are 6-1 and shorter.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
The leading-most pass defender
Is 6’3, Derrick Johnson.
That said, he’s not so much undersized as lacking in upper body strength. He’s lanky in the arms and chest, but (typical for an RB) his legs are pretty stout.
Said the same thing about his height/weight, Undersized?
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Everything I have read...
has him around 225lbs. Yea, that is actually pretty small for a linebacker.
well, he checked into the combine at 235
which is pretty decent weight, especially when he hasn’t been through an NFL S&C program yet. our LB coach Matt Burke also mentioned him being over 230lbs so…I’m not concerned about that.
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he is listed on this site...
227 lbs… they listed his weight at the NFL draft at 221 lbs which is even smaller. i suppose they could both be wrong…..
Not that it matters really though.
Pretty sure he was not drafted with a lot of impact in mind. and besides..i have seen undesized linebackers pull their weight well enough before…would not surpise me to see him do well in the lions system.
I read somewhere recently..
That he rarely uses weights, he just does pullups and pushups. Factual? I don’t know, but if it is, this guy is going to be a BEAST when the Lions strength coaches get a hold of him….whenever that happens…
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
from Walter Football proday results
Doug Hogue, OLB, Syracuse
Height: 6-3. Weight: 237.
Projected 40 Time: 4.62.
Combine 40 Time: 4.67.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.61.
Benchx225: 32. Vertical: 35.5. Arm: 32 5/8.
Projected Round (2011): 4-6.
Mayhew - " I think there are also a lot of positions where you see what's on the horizon and look down the road and look around the corner, it might not make sense on its face right now to add a player, but if you look down the road, it makes sense to add a player.'' Notice how he said "corner"
by StaffordSuperBowlMVP on May 6, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
the Bench looks wrong -
he had 18 reps at the Combine – may be a typo
He was the 5th fastest 40 at the combine
Mayhew - " I think there are also a lot of positions where you see what's on the horizon and look down the road and look around the corner, it might not make sense on its face right now to add a player, but if you look down the road, it makes sense to add a player.'' Notice how he said "corner"
by StaffordSuperBowlMVP on May 6, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
40 for LB
to clarify
Mayhew - " I think there are also a lot of positions where you see what's on the horizon and look down the road and look around the corner, it might not make sense on its face right now to add a player, but if you look down the road, it makes sense to add a player.'' Notice how he said "corner"
by StaffordSuperBowlMVP on May 6, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see Hogue
debut on D as nickel LB late next season (assuming we have injuries). After some more time learning (1 or 2 years at min) and building strength, he could be a real solid addition on D. We won’t know for a while obviously, but I like his chances.
""Dont get fairly, dont get fairly, dont get fairly PLEASE DON'T! PLEASE DETROIT! DONT get fairly.....................FUUUUUUUUUCK!!!" - T. Moore
Yep bad picture choice. Hope that's not foreshadowing.
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Starting to think maybe Zack will get another shot at OLB if healthy
Wouldn’t hurt my feelings if he did but he’s gonna have to show a tremendous amout of imrpovment. I’d be surpised if Doug starts right away.
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Interesting
Reading over this stuff gives me some hope that when he gets on the field he won’t trip over his own two feet.
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