Keith Bulluck Has Lions On Wish List Of Landing Spots For Next Season
by Sean Yuille on Jun 13, 2011 3:59 PM EDT
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PrintA year ago, former Titans linebacker Keith Bulluck became a free agent, and his name was commonly mentioned as a possibility for the Detroit Lions given his connection to Jim Schwartz. Bulluck dismissed the idea of playing for the Lions at that time, though.
"I'll tell you, man, (the Lions) are one of those teams that's up-and-coming," said Bulluck, who made 127 consecutive starters prior to his knee injury late last season. "But honestly, to be 100-percent honest, I want to play for a championship, you know what I'm saying? If it comes down to it, if my option is to go to Detroit, yeah, all right, that's what we gotta do. Because I'm gonna play football, regardless.
Bulluck's tune on the Lions seems to have changed in the last year. Earlier today in an interview with Sirius NFL Radio, he named three teams that he would like to play for in 2011: the Lions, New York Giants and New England Patriots.
Bulluck spent last season with the Giants, so he is open to returning to New York. The Patriots are one of the better teams in the league and are seemingly always contenders, so it's no surprise they're on his list, either.
Why are the Lions suddenly on Bulluck's wish list? Based on his comments from last year, Bulluck must see Detroit as a team that could contend. Also, as already mentioned, he has a connection to Schwartz. It also probably helps that he spent some of the offseason working out with fellow former Titan Kyle Vanden Bosch, who is now one of the Lions' biggest leaders. I'm sure Bulluck wouldn't mind reuniting with Schwartz and Vanden Bosch in Detroit, especially since the Lions have a big need at linebacker.
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I was a BIG proponent of bringing Keith in last year.
That said, after his lukewarm (albeit honest) analysis of where he’s at in his career and where we stand in those plans, coupled with his play last year, I’m not very high on him.
He could be a spot starter, good locker room presence, but I really wouldn’t expect much. If we could get him for a low salary, sure, but I’ve definitely cooled off on one of my favorite FA from last year.
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Agreed
I don’t necessarily see him as a starter even if he signs here. I don’t think he was that great with NYG last year.
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+1
He could be the type of vet Detroit could be looking to add, i wasn’t very high on him last year so my opinion hasn’t changed. I am happy with Carpenter, Levy, Palmer, Follett, Dizon and Campbell but not against the ideal of adding someone new not named Keith or Bulluck.
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me too
was a fan of this signing last year, this year not so much
by CR on Jun 13, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He soured my milk as well.
I was one of the more vocal people around here about wanting him to come to our Lions last year, but when he talked down like that about us my opinion of him changed 180 degrees.Keith I hope you never again play for a winner after how you openly said we were basically not even worth your time when we needed a LB with game.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Funny thing is it's his loss ultimately.
He got a 1-and-done with the Giants, and could have easily assimilated himself into this squad… but Keith wanted to win.
You know what they say about birds and bushes…
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Two hands in the bush are better than one in the bird?
by SweetLouDoubleU on Jun 13, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Get two birds stoned at once...
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"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
Oh yeah, NSF... pretty much anyone
Lots of cussing in that one.
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"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
Stop being babies.....
He didn’t say anything offensive. He didn’t laugh at us. Etc. he did the same thing…..THAT MOST OF THE GUYS ON OUR TEAM CURRENTLY WOULD HAVE DONE…….go and play for a contender. I think it is good that he got healthy while getting paid by another team. It let us see our young guys. This year is the perfect year to bring him in cause we want to make a playoff run and he is healthy. For the cheap money he will get I would take him. If he doesn’t cut it and can’t at least beat out Palmer and the big white guy whose name eludes me……that we can let him go.
Malek
by Matthew Malek on Jun 14, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Malek opposes the prevailing viewpoint
This just in… rain is, in fact, wet.
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I actually agree with him.
You have a chance to work for Berkshire Hathaway and you might step on a few toes by declining to work for Podunk Savings and Loan.
Would be a good short term pick up
Would like them to pick him and tulloch up and have a stout linebacker corps.
by basanders2021 on Jun 13, 2011 4:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Huh......
Last year he wanted nothing to do with us. What do we look like? The Heat, buzz off Bulluck. This city doesn’t like guys who don’t really want to be here.
poor babies....
WE WERE……2-14. Most the fans didn’t want to be here either. Now they do. Deal with it. He wasn’t rude or mean or mocking. He was real. Read what he said. I would have done the same thing. And so would have SUH and Calvin in their situation. Just life and the biz. WE had to earn the right to get players like him. And we have now.
Malek
by Matthew Malek on Jun 14, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
That's fine and all
I see your point but do you really want the 30+ year old scraps from New York. We are building a young good team, with great guys who are buying in to being something special. My point is KVB and Nate bought in and came in of their own free will. I don’t need Mr. Bulluck to come and “bless us” with his presence, he’s already shown, he’s not buying in and he’s no longer effective.
by fiendishdr.wu on Jun 14, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I am not so sure he's no longer effective. . .
I think he was still recovering from the injury he had a few years ago, and with injury and a new system to learn it might have been too much for him last year. I think if our FO does let him come here to play he could be a good back-up in a system that if friendly to his skill set, meaning he had his best years with Schwartz as his DC, look at what coming here did for KVB it gave his career a big jump again. But even with that being said, I still don’t want him here because he was such a bitch about where he was going to go last year.
How many lumps you want Doc?
He was not.....
a B——- last year. He was being totally realistic. I know us fans want these guys to only care about LOVING detroit and being here for us while we are down….but I gotta tell you….it ain’t happening with too many. KVB came here also cause we gave him a FAT contract. I think too many fans are out of line with all this Bullock stuff. He changed his mind. GREAT. That means we are winning over the NFL….just like us fans had to be won over for our dollars. What the heck is the difference? Have any of you had to make tough business decisions in your life? Doesn’t sound like it. Who knows. If he will help us win next year and be cheap….than bring him in..
Malek
by Matthew Malek on Jun 14, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Pass
We’ve seen this movie before, bringing in all these old guys who can’t play anymore AHEM Marenelli. Continue the youth movement, Palmer and Capenter can give us between 30 and 40 tackles. We didn’t drop JP just to sign his equivalent.
by fiendishdr.wu on Jun 14, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Was his poor performance last year
due to him getting old or the Giants not using him much. The stats say 13 starts and 30-something tackles. Not enough to bring in an old guy to play LB for us.
He'd be good depth and good leadership
The only question is how much he wants to get paid vs how much he’s worth to us.
by WestsideLionsFan on Jun 13, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh.... could have started for us last year and...
we would have likely signed him to a 2 yr deal as well, which could have had him avoid the unknown he’s dealing with now. Oh well. Doubt he’d start for us this year and it would all depend on how much we would value his leadership and teaching… cause as a player he appears to be past his prime.
Again, I’d rather see us continue the youth movement…..
I agree with the youth movement in terms of players who are on the field
But when you think of how valuable someone like VDB has been for the DL, his value as a mentor and leader far surpasses what he gives us on the field. Maybe Bulluck could provide a similar boost for the linebacking corps.
by WestsideLionsFan on Jun 13, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but KVB seems to have a lot more in the tank versus Bulluck.
Then again… who knows. Maybe last year was a fluke……
Didn't KVB....
have a poor year before he came to us? And he wasn’t hurt was he?
Malek
by Matthew Malek on Jun 14, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just saying he seems to have more football life left... that's all.
You need to stop playing the Debbie Downer role here. People can, in fact, have their own opinions. Mine is that Bullucks is past his prime and I’m not sure how much he has left to give aside from a back-up role. I could very well be wrong, but if last year is any indication, Bullucks time is almost up and KVB, while he did get hurt, was playing very good football still.
I am not...
playing debbie downer. I am just pointing out fan insanity. Someone has to do it here cause this page goes beyond optimism to delusion sometime. I don’t like Bullocks that much but I bet my LIFE he is better next year for whoever he plays for than Follet will be. And I would rather bet on him than Ashlee Palmer and Carperter though I like both of them. If you need a guy for ONE big game as a Lions fan and its between Bullock and ANY OTHER LB we have other than Levy I am going with Bullock healthy ALL DAY
Malek
by Matthew Malek on Jun 14, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And.....
why is it that you want me to let you have your opinion while trying to stop me from having mine? Don’t you see the irony in that?
Malek
by Matthew Malek on Jun 14, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not trying to stop you from having an opinion at all.
It’s just that all of your comments are geared towards telling others they are crazy for having the opinion that they do… which is that Bullucks chided the team last year and now is changing his tune when his options are limited due to a poor showing in New York. That’s all I am saying.
If your opinion was simply that Bullucks is better than what we have on the roster and is still a good player… fine. I accept that. He very may well be a good player still. Me? I have strong doubts about that.
I'd pass
Not so much because of what he said last year (he obviously rethought that and realized he was wrong), but more for his play. The tape I saw on him last year, he looked like a guy that was lost. In the Detroit game I saw a few blown assignments on his part (I was watching to see if he was worth all the talk) and a guy that just looked like he was on the tail end of his career. Much like JP, he would have been great to have a few years ago, now, not so much.
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I didn't really follow him or the Giants last year
Was it really that bad? That’s sad considering we might actually have a chance at him this time around.
Maybe he just needs to be back in a Schwartz defence. His 2009 stats don’t seem like he was declining: 108 combined tackles, 3 interceptions, 7 pass defences. Only when he got to New York did he start to suffer. Maybe he is just getting old, I don’t know. Anyone know if he had any injuries last season?
He blew his knee out in 2009
Tore his ACL and then got injured again last year.
Looks like the end of the line for old Keith.
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"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
I say screw off Bulluck
If you didn’t want to be he here last year. I don’t want him here now. You had your chance but iw we were gonna have an old broken down linebacker. I would have kept JP.
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CRY ME A RIVER…..YOU THINK ANY FREE AGENT WOULD COME HERE IF WE DIDN"T WIN THE LAST 4 games and went 3-13 again? NOPE. Nothing different with Bullocks except he was a free agent last year and had the BALLS to speak his mind. It should be see as a great victory to win over a veteran like him that has had such a distinguised career. Think KVB would be here if we wanted to pay him dirt? NOPE. Does that make him bad? NOPE
Malek
by Matthew Malek on Jun 14, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Schwarts sitting outside of his house at midnight
had more to do with KVB coming to the Lions than any paycheck no matter how big or small. KVB and Nate both said that the 2 coach’s coming personally to see them was more of a persuader than the team or paycheck that they both received.
How many lumps you want Doc?
If we can't get him for bargin basement
I would rather have Nichols
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PASS.........
This would be a stupid Millen signing, were past that point now.
We weren’t good enough for him last year, but now were lucky enough to make his short list? Paaaalease
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by delusional on Jun 13, 2011 6:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
+1
Dont really see bulluck as an on field contributor, and I think his better days are behind him.
by big smoove on Jun 13, 2011 6:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I assume...
…Vanden Bosch has a good gauge of where he’s at by working out with him and will pass that info along to the Lions. You never know what could have been wrong with him last year. It’s definitely nice having a little faith in the Lions staff though and knowing they will do what’s best and not what feels good on an impulse.
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was never particularly high on him in the first place.
Besides, didn’t we learn our lesson about NYG castoffs after C.C. Brown?
by Mavyrk on Jun 13, 2011 8:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So he doesn't come here b/c he wanted to piggy back with the Giants to a SB
but now wants to join b/c he knows most teams wont give him a chance to do anything substantial? No thanks. We’re fine at MLB, and I would rather have Chubaka instead of Bullock
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Jun 13, 2011 11:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Isn't it funny to see the Lions on a list with the NY Giants and the NE Patriots?
God, I hope this hype is warranted.
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wat a punk
first u diss us now you wanna jump on the sack where were you when 0 16 was here we here are true fans and team members (and which front office personnel) you can’t diss and dismiss and then suck up cuz you need a job detroit doesn’t need your services
HE DID NOT....
DISS US!!!! he spoke the TRUTH. PERIOD. Deal with it and quite being such vindictive fans. He did NOT MOCK US. He simply explained what he wanted and we didn’t fit the paramaters.
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by Matthew Malek on Jun 14, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
But 1 year later we do????
And when I last checked we still had a losing record. So how does that 1 year make him want to come here now? we still had a poor year record wise what’s the difference between 2 years ago and last year? Suh/Williams/SLH/Fairley(?)/Fluellen?
How many lumps you want Doc?
In all fairness to Keith,
The article I read, he basically said last year he wanted to go to a team that could compete but also a team where he wouldn’t have pressure on to immediately perform so he could recover from his acl tear. Unfortunately he never fully recovered and his stats showed it.
Now that said, he’s coming to the end of his career. I would rather pick up a younger guy that can play for us for the next five years in the prime of their career. Bullock isn’t that guy.
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Jun 14, 2011 12:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd like to see Doug Hogue and Zack Follet playing the outside linebackers
They both have potential to be serviceable, Hogue has the athletic ability and Follet hits like a ton of bricks. If they put it all together behind that d-line and a free agent corner or two, the defense could be pretty darn good.
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by DLions4Eva on Jun 14, 2011 12:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think were one of the few people left that think Follett can start...
I just think he is one of those guys that doesnt have the greatest skills or anything like that but you stick him in game situations and he can just play. You cant tell me some of those 3rd, 4th and goals that he plugged up werent exciting. I really would like to see him bounce back from his neck injury and prove some people wrong
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I think that's the biggest reason everyone has him written off
He was subpar at best to begin with and went out with an aggravation of a serious neck injury. Maybe if he was a CB it wouldn’t have as huge of an impact, but you simply cannot rely on a guy with neck problems to hold down a position for long.
It’s nothing against Follett, I think all of us would love to see him have a Pro Bowl or two to his name, but it just doesn’t seem to be in the cards.
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I like your sentiment.
If he’s truly recovered and doesn’t play with hesitancy – I could see him being a 2 down OLB for us. I know Schwartz uses more LBs than anyone else, but if we get a quality CB in FA or trade and hold onto Houston – we need to put the Phonze and Berry out on the field a bit!
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Are you crazy?
Follet is horrible. Period. Can’t cover. And Hogue looks sweet but will need a year. I promise if those two are our OLBs this year we are in DEEP crap and will go 7-9 with a healthy stafford
Malek
by Matthew Malek on Jun 14, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
I like Follet but I think he’s done. I agree Hogue wiil need a year. I do think Carpenter and Palmer are serviceable on the outside though.
I like Levy in the middle, Carp and Palm rotating at one of the OLB spots, and I believe we will get a stud OLB in free agency to man the other OLB spot for this year. We will be fine once the season starts (start already damnit).
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Jun 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's nice to hear he's come around on us, and I hope that other free agents feel the same
But I’d like to see us go someone other than Bulluck at LB, if we get him, fine, if not, no biggie.
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as long as FA opens up to 4 and 5 year players
Bullock shouldn’t command much money. He could be an upgrade from Johnson without costing too much more…But he shouldn’t be looked at as our OLB starter that we HAVE to get somehow…
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I did not want him last year and feel the same way this year.
Those of you who keep saying Free Agents will not come to Detroit unless they are overpaid or desperate, should take note of what Bulluck is saying here.
I think most players in the league know there has been a big change in the Lions. Not the “same old Lions” anymore.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
Different situation NL
This guy is looking for one last payday and is praying Schwartz remembers how he put out for him in the past and finds it in heart to give him another chance.
Now when N.A. comes out and says he want to play for the Lions, I’ll agree with you. FA’s still aren’t beating down the door to play here I’m afraid.
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by delusional on Jun 14, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess we will see when Free Agency starts up del.
Frankly, Bulluck is almost in the desperate list of LBs as far as I am concerned. A twelve year vet who wants to walk into a new team and start? I doubt there are many teams that you could expect to do that.
I hope we are done with the one and done free agents and pick up someone who will be here a few years.
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by NorthLeft12 on Jun 14, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I say sign him.
It’s not like he downright dissed us like Ernie Sims and Larry Foote did. He actually complemented us. I can’t blame him for wanting to play for a contender after a long career of nothing. To tell you the truth, if I wasn’t a life-long Lions fan, I wouldn’t want to come here after an 0-16 season followed by a 2-14 season.
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I think this would screw up the momentum
the Lions are trying to achieve. Build by good drafts and acquire the right free agents for your system. Truthfully, if the Lions were more established and really close to going to the Super Bowl, then yes I would grab a guy like him. He could help NE by lining up to Mayo.
problem with what you just said jeremy is this
He has had his best years as a 4-3 LB and last time I checked N.E. ran a 3-4 I think he would do better here than there, and we do have a need for a stop gap LB for a year or 2, but I still don’t want him.
How many lumps you want Doc?
he is still better then the OLB’s on the squad
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I’m convinced the guys on this roster are at least servicable.
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by DLions4Eva on Jun 14, 2011 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
do we even have 2 starting OLB’s? I know peterson is gone, who do we have now that is better then peterson?
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Answer is D: all the above!
Peterson’s play was poor last year at best; Carpenter and Palmer both out played him when given the chance last season. I am not happy with Palmer as our starter or Follet for that matter but a FA period will come up before the season starts and you will see our FO get us at least 1 more before pre-season starts. If Keith wants to come here now that means a lot more FA’s are thinking how good it would be to play behind this D-line as well. We will see at least 1 more LB if not 2 and at least 1 more CB when FA actually happens.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Unless free agency changes things...
I would think that Palmer and Carpenter will start… they will both be on the roster this season regardless of current status.
A blocking dummy would have been better than JP
At least I would have held no expectation for the dummy. The blocking one, not the one we let go.
by YpsilantiJeff on Jun 15, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be good for depth but not long term
What are the thoughts on picking up Aaron Maybin? He may be cut from the Bills. He didn’t live up to expectations there but he could be a good fit here and he is still young…..
Pass on Keith
Not seeing the upside to him. Especailly when there is a guy named Stephen Nicholas out there singing the Lions praises.
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