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LoJack's Eight Sacks, or Was it Six Sacks?


It was brought to my attention that the Pro Football Focus stats on the number of sacks recorded by DE Lawrence Jackson (eight) was incorrect.

The sacks recorded by NFL.com says that LoJack had only six sacks.

Who got it right? Who got it wrong? Could they have been wronger? I was determined to find out, and heap shame upon the poser, whoever it might be.

Star-divide

So, I got out my Meerschaum pipe, my hounds tooth cap and donned my cape for an investigation.

"Come, come, Dr. Watson! We’re off to the film room!"

OK, I made that up. I was sitting at my laptop in my bathrobe, drinking coffee and dining on a Krispy Kreme. Alright! It was two Krispy Kremes.

You guys are brutal!

Off we went to that hallowed shrine Ty Shalter, of The Lions in Winter, aptly characterizes as "The Temple of the NFL Oracle." Otherwise known as YouTube videos.

First, I went into those Premium Stats at PFF (that were so kindly paid for by my part time employer, DraftTek.com). I looked up the game by game stats for our quarry, LoJack. Hmm. LoJack played in 11 games, starting none.

Now I looked at the column where those sacks were recorded. Indeed, there were eight of those nuggets, neatly tucked away for our perusal. I made some notes on which games those sacks were recorded, along with other data that I felt was pertinent.

Next, I consulted the Oracle—er, YouTube videos for those games where LoJack had recorded those eight sacks. Here’s what I uncovered:

 

Week 3 @ Minnesota

From the left DE position, LoJack played 8 of 74 defensive snaps. He recorded a sack on Brett Favre at 7:54 of Q4.

 

Week 10 @ Buffalo

From the left DE position, LoJack played 31 of 61 defensive snaps. He sacked Ryan Fitzpatrick at the 9:25 mark of Q1.

 

Week 11 @ Dallas

From the left DE position, LoJack played 36 of 65 defensive snaps. He sacked Tony Romo twice. The first was at the 13:45 mark of Q3. The second was at the 11:04 mark of Q4.

An anomaly was uncovered that might shed some light on the discrepancies between the NFL.com, and PFF.com stats. PFF does not record half—sacks. They award a whole sack for each sack that a player participates in.

LoJack’s first of two sacks in the Dallas game was indeed a half—sack.

 

Week 13 Green Bay

From the left DE position, LoJack played 54 of 66 defensive snaps. He sacked Matt Flynn twice. The first was at the 1:03 mark of Q2. The second was at the 6:58 mark of Q4.

Like the Dallas game, LoJack’s first sack should have been recorded as a half—sack.

 

Week 15 @ Tampa Bay

From the right DE position, LoJack played 38 of 73 defensive snaps. He recorded a sack on Josh Freeman at the 12:58 mark of Q4.

This sack was credited by the announcer to Turk McBride, but it looked like Freeman was tripped up from behind by LoJack. The video was inconclusive, so I dialed up a Pro scout associate and asked him to look at that point in the game film. I did not suggest to him who made the sack, but asked him to tell me who should have received the credit.

He phoned me back after watching four views of that play. The camera angle from behind the Buc’s offense clearly indicated that it was LoJack’s sack.

 

Week 17 Minnesota

Playing the right DE position, LoJack played 29 of 61 defensive snaps. He recorded a sack on Joe Webb at the 7:21 mark of Q3.

 

Conclusions (AKA My Spin)

If we take those two half—sacks, plus the sack on Freeman erroneously awarded to McBride, LoJack would have a total of six sacks.

Whose stats were correct? Well, both were wrong. PFF’s non recording of half—sacks is a glaring weakness in their recording criteria, and thus, their results. NFL.com’s failure to correctly award a sack to LoJack was likewise unforgivable.

The thing that I took away from the exercise was LoJack’s snaps per sack ratio. Applying seven sacks (the correct number) over the 377 snaps yielded 1 sack per every 53.9 snaps played.

"Honey, do we have any more Krispy Kremes?"

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Great work Mike

Fun read….Romo?…Ol Jon K, I think it was.

by YpsilantiJeff on Jun 24, 2011 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, Jeff!

Nope, this game was pre-Kitna, although Kitna collecting some rug burns would have been just as schweeeeet.

by mikeyclaw on Jun 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

S'all good Brother Mikey :)

That game just frosted my bawls. Next to Scotty, Jon is my most loathed Lions QB. It still makes me squirm that he had such a lovely little outing against us. Also, I detest losing to the Pokes.

by YpsilantiJeff on Jun 24, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jon Kitna bootleg TD for the win

I almost puked

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by Nate D. on Jun 25, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

At that rate

Lo Jack could have 12-15 sacks next year if he gets a lot of reps (aka – partially takes over for KVB or there are some injuries to KVB or Avril again)…I’m going to go a head and guess 10 sacks – gotta be a little conservative right!?

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by rames on Jun 24, 2011 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

If Turk is on the roster in 2011, LoJack will probably get < 600 snaps.

Both were productive and played well on both sides of the line. Having DE’s and DT’s that see less than 600 snaps would keep those legs fresh and they would be even be more effective.

by mikeyclaw on Jun 24, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

great write up and LoJack got heart too

and wasn’t it the dallas game where it looked like he got knocked out and came back to get a sack?
think he was listed as questionable the following week

by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Jun 24, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

funny

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by yooperlionfan on Jun 24, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

well

i guess you can’t link pics from twitter. it’s a picture of a guy walking by LoJack wearing a packers t-shirt, lol

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by yooperlionfan on Jun 24, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

the article was nicely written

kinda reminds me of “the sports guy, bill simmons” stuff. and i mean that in the best way, (even if bill simmons sometimes has no clue what he’s talking about). he always talks about his kids or donuts apparently- and it makes him lots of moneys.

it’s nice to see something really well written, especially when now at all the detroit pistons sites everybody is just arguing over brandon knight…

by mgoblue4ever on Jun 24, 2011 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

lol.. Your in the Bathroom,

Drinking coffee, and eating doughnuts while on your laptop? Dude, isn’t that what the kitchen table is for? I will never look at crispy creams the same way again.

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by Pappy002 on Jun 24, 2011 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, bathROBE

My bad, sorry.

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by Pappy002 on Jun 24, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair

he didn’t say he wasn’t in the bathroom. You could still be correct. Nice article Mikey, you keep writing them, I’ll keep reading them…although, now that I think about it, that’s not an enticing incentive for you to keep writing them…

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by Leonuro on Jun 25, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was trying to quickly browse through it before I had to leave for a few days. Don’t mind me, I’m a jack hole.

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by Pappy002 on Jun 27, 2011 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

7 still sounds good to me

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by Hyperion Ecta on Jun 25, 2011 7:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Over 377 snaps, 7 sacks is remarkable.

I think if you asked any of these D-linemen, they would be proudest of their stats as a group. That’s how they roll.

by mikeyclaw on Jun 25, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just a couple notes.

You’ve got it Week 13 Green Bay. Green Bay was week 14, not 13. That confused me for a bit because I was looking at the Chicago game and was confused as to why I couldn’t find the sack you mentioned.

ANYWAYS.

I went through the game books (which are what the NFL.com stats are derived from) and I came up with this.

2-4-DET 28 (8:33) B.Favre sacked at DET 36 for -8 yards (L.Jackson) – Week 3
3-10-DET 42 (9:30) (Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick sacked at DET 49 for -7 yards (L.Jackson) – Week 10
3-15-DAL 15 (13:49) (Shotgun) J.Kitna sacked at DAL 7 for -8 yards (sack split by N.Suh and L.Jackson) – Week 11
1-5-DET 5 (13:39) J.Kitna sacked at DET 13 for -8 yards (L.Jackson) – Week 11
2-10-GB 41 (1:09) (Shotgun) M.Flynn sacked at GB 34 for -7 yards (sack split by L.Jackson and T.McBride) – Week 14
1-10-GB 18 (7:02) M.Flynn sacked at GB 12 for -6 yards (sack split by T.McBride and L.Jackson) – Week 14
1-10-DET 46 (13:01) J.Freeman sacked at TB 40 for -14 yards (L.Jackson) – Week 15
3-12-MIN 28 (7:27) (Shotgun) J.Webb sacked at MIN 20 for -8 yards (sack split by L.Jackson and C.Avril). – Week 17

You notice in bold is the Tampa Bay game. The announcer made the mistake, not the NFL. He was correctly credited for that sack. HOWEVER, you will also note the sacks from week 17 AND the second sack in week 14 were half-sacks.

Giving this data, you can see there were four total sacks and four half-sacks on LoJack’s year, amounting to a total of 6 (according to the NFL) or 8 (because PFF doesn’t record half-sacks.)

by Mavyrk on Jun 25, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

So what this all means is:

two rights don’t make a wrong.

I thought being lazy was a bad thing, So I gave up thinking.

by Wayne Fontes on Jun 26, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it doesn't

That’s like saying two positive numbers equal a negative number if you average them, and they don’t (not even if the second number is bigger than the first :)).

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by NorthStarr on Jun 30, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

So 6 or 7?

After all that analysis you still give two sack counts in your conclusion!

You meant seven right?

by x$pcents IV on Jun 26, 2011 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I say lets just use 8 as an unoffical/ offical POD stat.

from now on when ever I refer to LoJacks sack total. I will use 8.

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by JCruize on Jun 27, 2011 5:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Like a Cliff Avril sack

Suh usually pushes a guy back into the QB,the QB will try to get away starts to fall and Avril is closest to the play so he gets a sack.This must have happened 5-6 times last year,I wonder why Suh didn’t get the sack,when clearly the guy was going down from the Suh play.

by wolverine58 on Jun 30, 2011 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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