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Linebackers in review do they suck or do we need to upgrade?

A ding bat with a bozo decoder ring(very funnie by the way) prompted me to do some solid research on our linebackers to see who really sucks and who played well last season so travel along with me to see who's the bum really. I went with the first half of the minny vs detroit 01/02/2011 here is the link below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q39SPsInvsw

hopefully everybody has there bozo decoder ring on hand tighter than green lantern's ring finger because what I found was a lot of bad play from names you didn't expect. Are you ready? lets go!!

at 22-27 carpenter (the white guy no offense some didn't know) playing the strong side (the side where the TE mostly lines up) makes contact 3 yards deep up field which is good but besides his good penetration he forgot to make more effort to make the play but levy who is known to be soft took on a guard 2 yards behind the line and stuffed the play for like a two yard gain. And Palmer was on the back side but hustled to the play which is good.

At 1:11-16 Ashley Palmer makes a hell of a play even though he needs to wrap the ball carrier better but the swing pass is blown up great  in the open field play by Palmer on that play. At 6:45 Palmer takes on a guard and the back has no where to go stopping the play for a gain of maybe one yard.

so far, and this is no smoke up ya butt, Palmer is looking pretty good from game tape alone. its like they are avoiding him, they didn't throw at him much or run at him and when they did throw 2 passes his way one was almost picked and the other was incomplete. He also collected a sack showing good speed. But the guy they threw at all the time was carpenter. And it seemed like the game plan because he didn't look good there at all he was bad out of his breaks and just out of position.

2nd half here we go open another tab and follow to the second and lets see who shows up and who is just on the field. Here's the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QBeWeWFldA&feature=related

okay lets see what we got. At1:44 carpenter gets sucked up in the gaggle that our great defensive line creates and I mean its a gaggle guys and Palmer did well in trapping the tackle so the play couldn't bounce outside his way. Levy is trapped in front of the gaggle and the back cuts back to where carpenter should be but Mr. Delmas makes a great play to stop the play for short yards. At 4:38 Williams jumps off sides and kills a Avril sack one less for him thanks buddy. The whole third quarter on defense looked good for delmas, palmer and eric king but others just looked like they could be replaced (especially carpenter)

4th quarter to go and we are done lets get right into it and see who showed up. At 5:41 Palmer again showed up and made a play to stop the first down run. terrible call at 6:05 but the corner over reacted and got a penalty he was right but he handled it wrong o well. Again, at 6:18 Palmer is all over the field running plays down looking good. Am I being biased? Is everyone else looking at the tape because this kid is showing up big time just look for your self. At 8:33 the safety makes a good play jumping disrupting the pass play looks like a delay blitz. At 10:21 carpenter gets to the hole late and he kinda drags the runner down but with no conviction. They are running like a 3 down package during the last minutes of the game. At 10:28 Levy makes a great play on a open field tackle.

So in our assessment (hopefully) it seems like we have a good player in Ashley Palmer and a very bad one in carpenter. Levy to be honest was out of position on a lot of plays(don't be mad at me but this film was supposed to show us how good levy is even though its one game Palmer looked good) and carpenter just look lost and out of position on most the plays honestly guys. So, when it came to pass coverage Levy got an average grade, Palmer got an above average grade(he seemed more fluid and involved in the pass coverage and Levy looked stiff) and carpenter they threw at and the play was there if the throw was any good and the QB and receiver timing was better. D-

So I say the Dumb Bum Award(copy-written) goes to is ...........

Bobby Carpenter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and the player of the game(Lbs)  goes to Ashley Palmer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at the game tape and you make a decision let me know how ya feel about my talent assessment and all that stuff. In the next couple days or so i will go into the Miami game(I'm looking at the Lbs of the the four game winning streak) to see if we can break down some Landon Johnson YAY!!! okay that was a little gay but i really had fun skipping over the bum Riaola to get to the defense snaps to find the guy out of place. I should coach. alright stay up pride.

peace and hair grease

GO LIONS! (without the bum under center!)

Poll
Who looked like the best linebacker on the field in the Minny game? If you saw the game tape or the live game. (or followed the links)
Deandre Levy
41 votes
Bobby Carpenter
21 votes
Ashley Palmer
30 votes

92 votes | Poll has closed

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Sean, please delete this post.

It’s only going to prompt another LB’s “discussion” with everyone VS Det32. Plus, whaddayaknow, this guy says something about Stafford being a bum again. Jesus Christ, he’s getting on my nerves…..I should just go to bed…..

"I'm glad they made Flintstone's vitamins because I used to watch The Flintstones and go, "Man I bet you if I ate that dude, I would be healthy."

"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."

by Bighaircut on Jul 2, 2011 2:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I get the sentiment

but that’s a pretty bogus request IMO. Numba is describing his time and opinions reviewing that game…I get your point but I don’t see how it’s worth censoring him by deleting the post.

The Dis-Assembly Line - The unofficial, official name for the next best D-line in football.

by rames on Jul 2, 2011 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

It's just gonna get keep up the overdone LB's segment

He’s really not adding anything truly “new” to the table. Just throwing gasoline on the fire really.

"I'm glad they made Flintstone's vitamins because I used to watch The Flintstones and go, "Man I bet you if I ate that dude, I would be healthy."

"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."

by Bighaircut on Jul 2, 2011 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

You could be right

Please, let the lockout end…

RIP Robyn Bailey 1961 - 2010. I love you mum.

by Hyperion Ecta on Jul 2, 2011 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Without the lockout, this post would fall off the main page in minutes and no one would miss it. However, he did take the time to write it and analyze the game tape. I don’t care for the analysis much, but he has the right to post it.

and, hey, I read it .

by ATL Lion on Jul 2, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

The linebacker are not as bad as one would think.

Getting rid of JP is a hugh addition by subtraction. We have the depth guys, we need one top notch starter quality athletic LB and were good.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 4, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't wanna sound like a dink but...

I haven’t gotten anything out of any post from this guy. its all ‘our great qb staff-infection’ and “bad pun” (copy-written!)—btw, this has been bugging me, it’s copyrighted. not written—then mix in a bunch of other garbage et voila! you have his last 3 posts. sorry, things like these annoy me beyond belief…

If you are in an elevator and there is a button marked "Laser Bay Two"... You push that button.

by Forty Handz on Jul 2, 2011 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

dont read it if you dont like it

very easy to understand.why even comment on it.so there are 10 topics on LB’s who cares.

by wolverine58 on Jul 3, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah he has a right to his opinions.

At least he’s doing something constructive by going over film. If you don’t agree, offer your rebuttles to his selected plays or list some different plays, or simply don’t read it.

by JFisch on Jul 3, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

Why would something be deleted if you disagree with it or if its nothing new?Read ESPN.com! Do you see anything NEW developing?!
I know reading Numba’s posts are pretty challenging with his disregard to spell check (no offense!) but at least he’s posting something. If you don’t like it, read something else.

by Budro2010 on Jul 6, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

delete this?

all you have to do is not comment who likes talking to them selves. and why should ppl die cause they don’t believe in a guy who has done nothing? you sound really dumb and if i write something ever post on it go cry to sean like a punk and never post to my lame post. but seeing that you allways post to everything i make shut up crying about it i was just trying to show you who the bum was at lb thats all has anyone else went play by play of the game?…… NO so let me do what i do and you just hate by your self

by numba58 on Jul 2, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would say something back to this

But I don’t even know what you just said.

"I'm glad they made Flintstone's vitamins because I used to watch The Flintstones and go, "Man I bet you if I ate that dude, I would be healthy."

"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."

by Bighaircut on Jul 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta say:

one game does not a player make,

Also, be careful in how you evaluate. I know I don’t have this, and it’s great that we do research and put our 2 cents in, just remain conscious that it is just that…2 cents…You need some training to know what to look for based on technique and scheme (to truly know how to evaluate a player would be based on how the coach instructs his players to play…what gaps to stay at home in, how long to be patient at maintaining backside pusuit…ect. all those things could impact why a player looks out of place, why he looks to be slow to react, or often in our case, why it looks like they’re being over-aggressive and not reading the play properly)

The Dis-Assembly Line - The unofficial, official name for the next best D-line in football.

by rames on Jul 2, 2011 5:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think so...

I think that you can tell quite a bit without being a Detroit Lions scout or coach. Obviously there are things we don’t know, but I highly doubt it’s something we can’t comprehend by looking at it a few times. I’ve never ever once looked at a play and not understood what was happening after a couple looks.

by JFisch on Jul 3, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

and no matter what your opinion is...

it is yours and i respect you for sticking to it.

by hellspawn138 on Jul 3, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Yooperlionfan is officially "the man"
the Lions D-Line: the Four Horsemen of the A-sack-alypse
Jim Schwart: Erasing the stink of Millen, one fist pump at a time.
P.C.P: It is not just for recreation anymore.

by JCruize on Jul 3, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

To quote:

Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

"Common Sense, isn't" Solomon Short

by YpsilantiJeff on Jul 2, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

heres my thing if its old news and sooo lame

then why comment at all if you hate my stuff then why is your tag always on my stuff i don’t go to chi bears stuff cause it doesn’t interest me so if it is so lame then don’t comment if you look at my post there is 100 plus comment for a guy that just sucks so much. so just stop posting and thats to all dinglings who feel i can’t have a feel about a team i like in a free country where freedom of speech is the law of the land

by numba58 on Jul 2, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a quote from an old movie

and meant to be taken as a bit of comic relief. And why are you scolding me? I sure dont want your post deleted.

"Common Sense, isn't" Solomon Short

by YpsilantiJeff on Jul 2, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry but its like you can't have a bad thought or say a bad thing about stafford

even though he hasn’t done anything around here heck what did he win in college?

by numba58 on Jul 2, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not that you can't say anything bad about Staff

It’s the fact that you say something bad about him in every post you create. It’s old, we know you don’t like him, but get over it. Just like we know Det32 doesn’t like our LB’s, and Joshsun doesn’t like Schwartz. The only difference is Josh has stopped the fire Schwartz talk and, well, there’s no difference in Det32’s case actually. Just let it go.

"I'm glad they made Flintstone's vitamins because I used to watch The Flintstones and go, "Man I bet you if I ate that dude, I would be healthy."

"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."

by Bighaircut on Jul 2, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does he have to stop because you think it's old?

Just because something is somewhat repetitive, doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be allowed. He mentioned Stafford as a side bit. He didn’t write the same story 10 times in a row or anything. I think he should be free to mention Stafford sucking as much as he wants as long as that isn’t the focus and only point in every post.

by JFisch on Jul 3, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ok....

What else do you want to talk about? Because there’s so much going on in the league right now….
How about Suh’s football camp for kids? Stuff is going to get even more repetitive because theirs nothing going on.

by Budro2010 on Jul 6, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

S'all good brother 58 :)

I put it down to a combination of loyalty and pure unadulterated desperation. As far as college ball goes my opinion is heretical to say the least. Suffice it to say that past performance is not necessarily indicative of future earnings.

"Common Sense, isn't" Solomon Short

by YpsilantiJeff on Jul 2, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually laughed reading that.

Kelly is still my Hero.

I pity the fool!
-Mr. T

by Phreaking Mohican on Jul 2, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

thelast 2wins by the lions bobby carpenter had a soild game for the lionsand he was not with the team at the strart of year .iwould give him ahole year to learn the lions sytem at lb and he should impove at lb might be astrarter or soild backup for the lions .as for deande levy he plalyed hurt all year and can play all3 lb spots for the lions the lions licke him at mlb right now but he could play olb next year if the lion s pick new mlb this year or kepp were he at he to will only improve with playing time . the same goes for ahley palmer he ayoung olb who is still learning the olb spot with alot of upside he should be abackup this or could be strartd if the liond donot pick up any one .but as thier have ben alot post about the lions pickup alest 3new players to thier oln//mlb corps this year we will have to wait sea..

by kwfords on Jul 2, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

agree with everything you said

Yooperlionfan is officially "the man"
the Lions D-Line: the Four Horsemen of the A-sack-alypse
Jim Schwart: Erasing the stink of Millen, one fist pump at a time.
P.C.P: It is not just for recreation anymore.

by JCruize on Jul 2, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Yooperlionfan is officially "the man"
the Lions D-Line: the Four Horsemen of the A-sack-alypse
Jim Schwart: Erasing the stink of Millen, one fist pump at a time.
P.C.P: It is not just for recreation anymore.

by JCruize on Jul 2, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Numba 58, You’re going to get banned soon…

So I wanted to get this message across before you get the flick.

Grow up.
Get an education.
Be more respectful of others.
Be a better fan of your team.
And shut the fuck up!

by Millen_Free on Jul 2, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

why should he get banned?

he has the right to say what he wants , he is basically right on most of it. I for one think the Lions need a few areas upgraded and if you cant see that then something is wrong.
so he is wrong about Stafford? his backups play more than he does

by wolverine58 on Jul 3, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Read his other posts.

Specifically the one called “True Fans”

"I'm glad they made Flintstone's vitamins because I used to watch The Flintstones and go, "Man I bet you if I ate that dude, I would be healthy."

"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."

by Bighaircut on Jul 3, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

your new here

this thing has been going on for awhile.

Yooperlionfan is officially "the man"
the Lions D-Line: the Four Horsemen of the A-sack-alypse
Jim Schwart: Erasing the stink of Millen, one fist pump at a time.
P.C.P: It is not just for recreation anymore.

by JCruize on Jul 3, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagreeing with a dunderhead is a waste of time.

Fools like numba58 feed off attention, he will continue to bask in the thought that he must have valid opinions as long as people continue to acknowledge him. When you stop feeding his ego by disagreeing with his moronic, hyperbolic conjecture, he will stop making numbskull post after numbskull post.

It's pronounced "en-DOM-ah-ken", but you can call me Kenny.

"The Detroit Disassembly Line" - Bring Your Hard Hat!!

by TheMiniBarAtTheStaffordArms on Jul 3, 2011 1:06 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Oh look, another fan post...yay.

If you are in an elevator and there is a button marked "Laser Bay Two"... You push that button.

by Forty Handz on Jul 3, 2011 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

lmao

RIP KURTIS CHAIVRE

by det32 on Jul 3, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why does this happen?

You are all acting like children. And frankly I do not care who gets their panties in a bunch over my saying that. Its ridiculous that grown people can not get along ina forum like this…WE ARE ALL HERE FOR THE SAME REASON FOR CHRISSAKES!!!!!!!!! Now, GROW UP AND ACT LIKE MEN!!!!!!!

by hellspawn138 on Jul 3, 2011 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

and

what exactly makes you the authority on what is or isn’t manly, another tough guy behind a keyboard. so take your all caps orders and shove ‘em. if someone wants to come in here and purposely be an ass, they deserve to be told so. you don’t like it, tough. deal with it, or move on.

I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.

by yooperlionfan on Jul 3, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

RIP KURTIS CHAIVRE

by det32 on Jul 3, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was not making any attempt to be a "tough guy" behind a computer keyboard....

I was stating my “opinion” on what happened for the last 20 or so comments before my post. Which was definitely several of the posters on here acting childish. I never stated that anything gave me an “authority” to be, do or say anything.
I think a lot of posters on here believe they have some kind of privileged status that other posters do not have here. And they make it a point to jump on peoples threads and make rude comments. It was clear from the title what this article was about. There was no confusion or collusion as to its content. If a poster was not interested in reading said content he or she could…..you got it….move along. There are plenty of other postings here you may find worthwile or that mesh with your opinion or stance.
We are all here for the same reason. To enjoy loving our favorite football team with our whole heart and soul. I just do not see the sense in becoming territorial over it. I think maybe the lockout has us all on edge. We realize that we could miss an opportunity to finally see our team be good after all these years of futility. But let us not lose sight of why we are here. WE LOVE THE DOGGONE DETROIT LIONS!!!!!!

by hellspawn138 on Jul 3, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

the issue

people have here is not about the subject matter of his postings, but rather, the rude, inflammatory way he goes about it. and if it was just this one thread, nothing would have been made of it really. but he continually posts in a way meant to piss people off, and he finally got his wish.
as for some people here acting entitled, well, honestly, they are the ones that made pod what it is (the best lions blog anywhere) and they have a right to see to it that it stays that way. if you don’t know the full history behind peoples reactions to something, the better tact would have been to ask what the real issue is, or something like that. and then form an opinion as to whether or not that reaction was warranted, before calling everyone childish, and telling them in all caps to “grow up and act like men”
just my opinion, but that’s how i see it

I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.

by yooperlionfan on Jul 3, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats cool man..

I will keep that in mind when reading and posting in the future. No ill will directed toward you; you are entitled to your opinion and I respect you for sticking to what you believe.
    I just wish people could learn to get along here. This is more than just an isolated incident with just one poster. I am sticking to my opinion too. I have been coming here for over 2 years, and have witnessed and been subjected to some very unwarranted rude behavior. Usually from the same 2 or 3 posters. Who however ironic it way seem, want to become tough guys hiding behind a computer keyboard. No, I am not referring to you yooper. You are very well-spoken and present yourself in very cordial and respectful manner for the most part. Everyone has their moments, present company included. I try not to fault people for it. But sometimes people leave me no choice.
 Anyhow, obviously it does not bother me so bad that I would leave. Sean is awesome and he really takes his love for his team to the next level. I enjoy reading his articles and rely on him as opposed to any mainstream media for my Lions fix. But the rude stuff that goes on here is uncalled for.
    I will admit that I jumped the gun on this one. But it was more a reflection on some former experiences I have had here. There are a few posters who seem to want to “pile on” when their is a pot stirring somewhere. It gets old sometimes.
   I apologize if I came off like a jerk. I can see where it could have been taken that way. I have no problem admitting it when I am wrong. I was wrong here. I let my frustration with a small minority of posters push me off my square for a split second there. In the future I will attempt to refrain from that behavior. Now let’s all do what we came here for in peace..lol.

by hellspawn138 on Jul 3, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

no ill will taken

as were you, i was just explaining my point. it’s all good

I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.

by yooperlionfan on Jul 3, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Just one word from the P.C.P. foundation.

Carpenter is a genius suckering the Vikings into going his way so they could be humiliated by the pain he inflicted.

I thought being lazy was a bad thing, So I gave up thinking.

by Wayne Fontes on Jul 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought being lazy was a bad thing, So I gave up thinking.

by Wayne Fontes on Jul 3, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I like Carpenter

Mayhew knows how to steal players thats for sure

by wolverine58 on Jul 7, 2011 2:16 AM EDT reply actions  

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