Lions Notes: DeAndre Levy Willing To Play Outside Linebacker

by Sean Yuille on Jul 23, 2011 10:11 PM EDT in Detroit Lions Notes

DeAndre Levy said he will play "whatever position suits our needs best." There has been a lot of talk this offseason that Levy could switch to outside linebacker if the Lions sign a middle linebacker during free agency, and Levy doesn't seem to have a problem with potentially moving outside.
Kyle Vanden Bosch was interviewed by NFL Network on Friday about the NFL lockout.
If teams violate the offseason workout rules that are expected to be in the new CBA (they limit OTAs and how many padded practices can be held), franchises and coaches can expect to be fined a lot of money.
HBO's Hard Knocks is officially taking a year off. It's too bad since the show is always entertaining, but it was just not feasible to have it this year.
Vikings punter Chris Kluwe wrote quite the article that tore apart Nate Jackson on Deadspin the other day. The back-story: Kluwe rightfully called the players seeking extra compensation in the Brady v. NFL case "douchebags" earlier this week. Jackson wrote a post on Deadspin in response to this and basically dismissed anything Kluwe had to say because Kluwe is a punter. Well, Kluwe didn't take too kindly to that and wrote a response that is absolutely hilarious and is a must-read.

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lmao

The Kluwe post is brilliant. To this point today, I was absolutely sure not a single NFL player out there understood just how amazing an opportunity it was to play this amazing game for truck loads of money. Leave it to a punter to understand a fans point of view. I hope his teammates and the other players in the league read what he wrote and pay attention!

Kluwe, You have earned a ton of respect from me with one post.

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by joshsun on Jul 23, 2011 10:29 PM EDT reply actions

Chris Kluwe just became my favorite punter in the NFL

FINALLY a player that seems to appreciate the fans in all this and know how to shove to some no named JAG

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by Latif Masud on Jul 23, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

RIP KURTIS CHAIVRE

by det32 on Jul 23, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Found the perfect pic

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by Latif Masud on Jul 23, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

perfectly BRILLIANT!

by joshsun on Jul 23, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I've never had a favorite punter before....

but now I definitely do. I think we should start a campaign and vote him into the Pro Bowl, even if he does play for the Vikqueens.

by NewPoster on Jul 24, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions

plus the point at the end where he explains the difference between calling someone a douche bag and a fuck wit was priceless

by NewPoster on Jul 24, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions

I have . . Ray Guy.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Jul 24, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions

You guys were just lumping them all....

Because of a few tools….a few NFL shitheads are always in the news detracting from the majority of decent players that play in the NFL.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 23, 2011 10:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

no it is all of them other then chirs.. go talk to them on twiter there all bitching

RIP KURTIS CHAIVRE

by det32 on Jul 23, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions

If there are so many good guys out there

Why aren’t they standing up and saying the same thing? It takes a punter with brass balls to step up? I thought these were tough guys who did not back down from anything.

Sorry, I am not buying it. Flip that equation around and say. There are a few good guys and a majority of shitheads in the NFL players ranks and I would agree.

by joshsun on Jul 23, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Good thing I watch the game because I love the game independant of the players.

Or that realization would be a fan killer.

by joshsun on Jul 23, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Here's the difference...

players are bitching because of the NFL’s powerplay on Thursday. They just wanted time to read over the CBA and the extra proposals the owners made. They worked stuff out and it’s going to end soon. Guys like Jackson and Mankins are the douchebags, the other guys are just making sure they know what they are voting on…fair enough.

by lions_sucker on Jul 24, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions

I have not heard or read that statement from any source.

the other guys are just making sure they know what they are voting on

Has anyone heard that from any player or player rep? Not a single place that I have read. I do not buy it. What I heard were players crying foul about all these things the owners slipped into their proposal before voting on it. Has anyone heard anything that was “slipped” into the deal?

I saw quotes that said plain as day……. "Here is what the ‘Real’ fans need to know: The owners tried to slip many things in to the CBA "they" voted on that were NEVER agreed to!#PRPlay," Saints fullback Heath Evans said on Twitter.

Has anyone heard anything to validate that statement?

Anyone?

Anything?

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions

Guys like...

Cliff Avril, Levy, LoJack, etc. on twitter are all saying that everything needed to be read since some changes were made and they wanted to know what was being agreed to. Bottom line is both sides should have worked harder to get a deal done prior to the week of training camp. The lawyers and reps should have had the foresight to avoid this scenario (i.e. union re-certification) and on the dates that the players and owners were supposed to vote have a complete and finalized proposal. Both sides failed, but I’m not going to place blame solely on the players. It’s a business and they both had to try and get the most out of the deal, so it takes time. No games are going to be missed, so it had zero true effect on any fan. Sure, it was annoying, and us diehards want to read about football related news all offseason, but when it comes down to it, Sundays are all that matter.

by lions_sucker on Jul 24, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions

Thank you L.S. for providing some balanced sanity....

Joshun, dude, you have to get a grip. We’ll be buried in actual football related topics in just a couple of short days.

Then it will on to the “Schwartz sucks” posts.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 9:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

other then chris they are all greedy fuckwads

the players are 100% to blam for this i dont understand how anyone can even think about being on there side

RIP KURTIS CHAIVRE

by det32 on Jul 24, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions

lmao Delusional

The Schwartz sucks posts will start when the team sucks. Believe me, I have absolutely no interest in starting those posts. I would be far happier keeping my feelings on him tucked away as long as the team can win.

Now, if we Start the season slow (1-4 slow) I might have to break out some pent up rage.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Shit Joshun, if we start off 1-4....

I’ll bitch about Schwartz.

For now I’ll limit my crabbing to fat ass out of shape players that are pulling groins or hamstrings and missing valuable training camp time.

I swear to God, if Fairly tweaks something in training camp I’ll go F-en beserk.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

lmao

I will be right there with you, on all points.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions

I think half of POD will.

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by Quez81 on Jul 24, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions

lol

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by rames on Jul 24, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm worried about Fairly

He doesn’t have a clue what he’s getting into. He may think he does, but no way.

How hard did he really work the past 4 months?

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Some of the craziest stuff I've ever read in my life

I don’t know how they can even watch on sundays.

by JWurm on Jul 24, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions

There are a few low key guys, but

Then you have the player rep for the Redskins, Vonnie Holliday, mouthing off about how the owners snuck things in. A player reps “verbal diarrhea” as joshsun likes to call it drowns away the few sane voices there are on the player’s side

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by Latif Masud on Jul 24, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm not disputing that at all.

My point is if you follow sports closely like I know we all do, we all know that their is going to be a few loud mouth fools out to get the attention which usually works. They should be ignored.

But then there’s a VAST majority of just good hardworking players just going about their business, preparing for the season, not making ignorant comments, quietly doing their fan based goodwill appearances that don’t deserve to be lumped in with the idiots.

Joshun is just anxious for football, as we all are. But to hate on all players is not correct.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I don't think anyone here is hating on ALL players

The union reps represent the vast majority of the players. They are the voice of the players whether they like it or not. The reps are also the ones most closely involved in all this, and it is their vote that initially matters, so when those people are out there spewing BS left and right, you have more than enough reasons to hate the players…

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by Latif Masud on Jul 24, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

The few ruin it for the many.

Always. Forever. That’s just how it works. The solution, of course, is to police your unit. Having your friend/co-worker’s back is not limited to helping them after things go wrong. Its also about preparing for the possibilities and knowing that the shit you do can affect your unit. Free speech is a beautiful thing. However, the right to be able to speak your mind how you see fit does not and will never stop people from thinking what you said makes you and your buddies look like douchebags.

Is it fair that some people blame all the players for the ignorant comments of a few? No, of course not. Are those few players helping to dissuade those assumptions with their uninformed comments? No, of course not. Some of the best advice I have ever received in life was someone telling me to shut the fuck up when I was about to say something ridiculous. I extend that same wisdom to those players.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Jul 24, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Some of the best advice I have ever received in life was someone telling me to shut the fuck up when I was about to say something ridiculous.

Bravo. That should be in “How to be a Professional Athlete 101”…along with how to avoid DUIs, and manage the millions they make.

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by Latif Masud on Jul 24, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

and btw avril and lojack ect want more...

RIP KURTIS CHAIVRE

by det32 on Jul 24, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Det32...you betting drop football

And start following ladies tennis or something.

If your hating on the players on your team, why root for them?

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

"better"

Shit, I want more, you want more, so what, everyone wants more.

It doesn’t mean anything.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

"better"

Shit, I want more, you want more, so what, everyone wants more.

It doesn’t mean anything.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

it means they are greedy ass holes who arent gratfully for a dam thing..

i would pay to play football the is orginsed like this but no 10 mil a year isnt good enough for thes fucknugets

RIP KURTIS CHAIVRE

by det32 on Jul 24, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Fucknuggets....roflmao!

I understand what’s bugging you regarding them saying that it’s not enough.

Man, that’s just all sports now.

I still think football players get fucked hard over not having guaranteed contracts though.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

that lack of guaranteed contracts

is one of the things that keeps the NFL from becoming the NBA or the MBL. Can you imagine a team with under performing overpaid players whose contract they could not get off their payroll? Cash strapped by those anchors ruining the team and destroying the fan bases hope for the next season. No F’in thanks!

It sucks for them but that is the price they pay for the popularity of their sport.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmm

Can you imagine a team with under performing overpaid players

Dallas Cowboys?

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Jul 24, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions

lmao

but they can cut those players if they find better producing players to take their place. Its harsh but it is reality like the rest of the world has to live in.

You can not do that in the NBA or MLB.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Good point.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Again

What did the owners change?

Anything?

Anyone?

I am seeing a whole lot of nothing from every source.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Do you seriously think they would give us that info?

Both sides are in the middle of a multi-billion dollar negotiation. Do you honestly think it would be in anybody’s interest for them to fax a copy of said proposed CBA to ESPN?

Speaking of ESPN, there’s an article over there that talks about this very situation.

A quote:

“I don’t understand the NFL owners,” Marvin Miller, the 94-year-old labor icon, said Saturday by phone.
“This whole thing started when they used a reopening clause they didn’t have to use, demanded that the players give up a billion dollars in salary and, as a reward for giving up that billion, tried to add two more games a season to a group of players that have the highest injury rate in professional sports, the highest rate of serious injury, the lowest salary, and the shortest career.”

And another:

“There’s nothing wrong with owners ratifying the deal and trying to expedite it,” Miller said. "But making it public before the players got hold of the agreement is wrong. That’s the role of somebody trying to instigate problems with the players, and it was guaranteed to do so.

“Picture yourself as a player who’s been terribly provoked, and worried about how long the lockout will last, and suddenly the owners are announcing a settlement and you don’t even know what’s in the deal. I’ve never before seen that in my life.”

For a 94 year-old man who’s life has centered around labor disputes, that’s saying something.
I realize that you’re infatuated with the NFL owners here and despise with all of your might NFL players for whatever nonsensical reasons, but use your head here man. Seriously. Buying into the bullshit propaganda is exactly what the owners wanted fans to do, and that’s exactly what you’re doing.

by motown313 on Jul 24, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions

They're like sheep...

The owners say it, they follow.

by JWurm on Jul 24, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Sheep do not think for themselves

Kind of like people that make blanket statements like…

The owners say it, they follow.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions

sorry, Quoting that man to prove a point is... well... pointless.

Nonsensical reasons? The players popped off at the mouth quick enough when the proposal was sent their way. If there was anything in that proposal that was slipped in, changed or manipulated in any way, you can be damn sure it would have gotten out by now. D Smith is not a man to let a situation fall to the side if it were to give him any sort of leverage. If you do not believe that, I do not know what to say to you. The truth of the matter is, nothing has come out because their statements were flat out wrong. There was nothing changed, slipped in or manipulated.

You are defending an indefensible position. The players threw a temper tantrum because the owners beat them to the punch and approved a deal that both sides had negotiated. The players were upset because the owners were essentially telling the players how this thing would end, like every other boss on the planet would do. I could quote the owner’s statements about how stunned they were that the players were reacting this way but that is just as pointless as listening to Mr. Miller or the players rants the night of the approved deal.

What rings true in all of this is what has not come out and that is all these “Mystery” manipulations the owners tried to pull on the players.

You know what I keep hearing each time I think about the players. Those quotes about how they just want to play football. We are the ones locked out. We just want to play. Well, they had a chance to do just that Thursday night and Friday. Instead, they decided to nitpick minor details like how they would re-certify. Its a joke and it all points to D Smith.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions

So, I ask again

What was changed, manipulate or slipped in.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe nothing, who knows...

But even in the auto industry when a contract is hammered out between the companies and the UAW, a process these organizations have been doing for 70 years, the company signs off on the agreement, yet it takes weeks for the contract to be ratified by the rank and file.

I know, it’s a slightly different situation, but it just takes the employees a tad longer to get their shit together.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 2:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I will grant that

One thing that keeps going threw my mind, that tempers my disappointment in the players, who in their membership/leadership has been in a labor negotiation before?

I have spent a little time just trying to pick people out that may have been off the top of my head and I am coming up with nothing. That can easily contribute some of the PR “fubars” we are seeing on a regular basis from them. It does not excuse them but it does take the edge off.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I think its more of

the players lost the PR battle and are crying like babies because of it. Remember, they met on Tuesday and Wednesday. They were suppose to approve the CBA BEFORE the owners meeting. For whatever reason, they didn’t get it done. Then on Thursday, you had real businessmen showing a bunch of inexperience sissies how its done by ratifying the deal 31-0.

Players knew how bad it looked/looks. The temper tantrums from the NFLPA reps are taking heat off their backs. They failed, yet we’re not talking about their failure. We’re busy digging and sifting through the news for the nonexistent things that were slipped into the CBA. It all kinda reminds you of the Nukes in Iraq…

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by Latif Masud on Jul 24, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm going to miss Hard Knocks this year.

Why did every team have to act like they have their stuff together. You telling me the Vikings couldn’t do it? They’re a mess anyway.

by fiendishdr.wu on Jul 23, 2011 10:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Wow

Chris Kluwe is AMAZING! I hope the players worked something out about Roger Goodell’s power because James Harrison don’t have shit on this guy. He opened up a case of literary ass whoop on Nate Jackson lol.

by fiendishdr.wu on Jul 23, 2011 11:15 PM EDT reply actions

yup

by joshsun on Jul 23, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I think im going to go against the title of Jackson's article

and ask opinions from punters more often..

by TheForceOfFollett on Jul 24, 2011 12:03 AM EDT reply actions

yup

It seems the real brass balls in the NFL are connected to the punters.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions

kluwe

That was the the single best article I have read in some time. I am going to make it a personal goal to make every NFL fan I know read that. The sheer balls of it. The honesty. I shit you not I am tempted to buy a kluwe jersey. I know I’m gushing but I haven’t been this impressed in a long time. I just read a punter stealing a tight ends lunch money. That is some serious good stuff.

by chaunce on Jul 24, 2011 1:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

Nate Jackson is hardly a tight end

He was just some dude on rosters for a while…

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by Latif Masud on Jul 24, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions

I am tempted to buy his jersey too

No joke.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions

That Kluwe article was magnificent

I like the guy tons more now.

by Hyperion Ecta on Jul 24, 2011 2:31 AM EDT reply actions

The thing I fault everyone connected

to the NFL on, current players, owners and the NFL league office on is the churn em, burn em, and forget em attitude after a short 4 year career and leave these players with life long injuries.

What would it cost, I really don’t know the amount, to provide life long health care of some level, an increasing pension the further away a player gets from his playing days, with the option to not receive it, and take care of these senior players?

Would a dollar surcharge per ticket cover it with some seed money first thrown in?

The current system is just criminal, and I do fault the players on this one.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Jul 24, 2011 12:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Life long health care is part of the proposed CBA

I hope it is true. The players need that coverage after they move on from the game. That is something every player and owner today owes those that created the financial boon with which they all over fill their wallets.

Both sides need to take a cut to provide those benefits. There should be no question about it.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Borrrrrrring....

Nice play Kluwe…way to get some media coverage…really good publicity stunt. Seriously.

I agree with what he said on all counts…yet I somehow digress…who would give a shit what he had to say if the lockout did not exist? No, I am not impressed. And guess what? I am just a fan. I can’t punt a football to save my life, I can’t stop a 300 lb defensive tackle or a 280 lb DE, I can’t beat a 300 lb offensive lineman, throw a pass 50+ yards, catch a rocket from Stafford, run a 4.3 40, or do anything that most professional athletes do. I still have a right to say what I want to say, and as such I agree with what was said in rebuttal. However, in respect to front page news this is far from it…lol. It wasn’t even entertaining to me.

In the scope of what was said by Nate Jackson, as insignificant as he may have been as a professional football player, he is correct in his own right as well. Chris Kluwe is a punter, and punters are a dime a dozen. If Chris Kluwe went down to a season ending injury in the preseason, I doubt it would have any major effect on the Vikings as a team. In that aspect, his opinion IS likely less significant than say Adrian Peterson’s…but that does not mean he does not have a right to his opinion. So you spent 16 years of your life doing what was needed to be a professional punter…irrelevant. What Jackson was saying is that the opinion of the team punter means nothing…and that much is about as true as it can get.

I do not agree with being greedy by any means…but Brady, Manning, Brees?? They are the faces of their franchises, and the leaders of their teams. If they get hurt, it makes a significant impact on the team as a whole. Do they have a right to ask for more money? They have just as much right to ask, as you do to your opinion. Do they deserve it? Irrelevant. My question is why would Chris Kluwe have such an emotional response to what 3 franchise QBs are doing during the lockout? Could it be envy? Jealousy? Yeah…I think he should shut up, and I think Nate Jackson should disappear in the sunset too. Neither one of you matters in the overall, larger picture. Thus, I find your rants boring.

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by KDawg on Jul 24, 2011 2:23 PM EDT reply actions

My question is why would Chris Kluwe have such an emotional response to what 3 franchise QBs are doing during the lockout

My guess would be because they’re holding up the show and that’s affecting the rate at which his paychecks arrive. Envy or jealousy, really? How about just wanting to continue to get paid and get back to a sport you love.

In that aspect, his opinion IS likely less significant than say Adrian Peterson’s…but that does not mean he does not have a right to his opinion.

Sadly, in today’s world that’s probably true. Its still a steaming pile of horse shit though.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Jul 24, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions

well said

Last I knew, football was a team sport and teams win with all the players contributing. This whole idolization of players who play certain positions is a load of shit. Hearing a fan say that a player deserves more from a CBA, a device specifically designed to help all its members, is hilarious.

All the douche bags, that asked for special treatment because they signed their names to a case that was never going to go anywhere, deserve all the negative attention they have coming their way. I do not care if that negative attention is coming from a mentally challenged 5 year old, a punter or the smartest man on the planet. The truth of the matter is, those players are hurting their fellow players by holding up a CBA that would benefit all of them. That is the ultimate display of arrogant greed and needs to be called out. I am glad Kluwe did it. I am ashamed for other players that did not do it because I guarantee they thought the exact same thing.

In the immortal words of Mark Twain:

It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world and moral courage so rare.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Yep

It is a team sport, but that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.

Also, where exactly did I say that any players deserves more than another from the CBA? What I did say was that they have the RIGHT to ask for more…and nowhere did I say that they DESERVED more. In fact I said whether or not they deserved it was irrelevant to my point.

I agree with the rest of what you said Josh…but again it is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.

by KDawg on Jul 24, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I should have been more clear, I know you did not say they deserved more

What I did say was that they have the RIGHT to ask for more

As far as I am concerned, they do not have any right to ask for more. Not when it potentially injures others ability to get what they have coming.

Moral obligations are far too often laid to the side of the highway of greed in our society and I am tired of it.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I just meant from a legal standpoint man...

The have the legal right…I guess it is me that needed to be more clear.

by KDawg on Jul 24, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Leonuro

I am not trying to say that it is not for financial reasons that Kluwe said what he did….I was just basically wondering out loud if it couldn’t possibly be envy or jealousy. And I am not ruling it out as such….

Like I said…I agree with what he said. I also agree that it is sad that his opinion doesn’t hold water in comparison to other skilled positional players. However to say that it was not an emotional response is ludicrous, and to think that his opinion does matter, equilaterally, is also.

by KDawg on Jul 24, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions

It could possibly be envy or jealousy.

I’m not Chris Kluwe, so I’d be a special kind of asshole to pretend I know what he’s feeling. I’m not arguing that its not an emotional response. If my paychecks weren’t coming, I’d be getting pretty emotional too.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Jul 24, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Now, c'mon

Tweeting a 120 character tweet about how he thought the plaintiffs are holding back the whole process is hardly an emotional response.

All he is doing is answering back to some dickwad that never met Chris Kluwe. If someone was to write a piece like that about you, would you just sit there and let it be? I know I wouldn’t. He’s hardly trying to get press or noteriety. He’s been in the league 16 years, yet this is the first time I’ve heard his name mentioned with anything controversial. Players that like their five seconds of fame do stupid shit to get attention. Like TO, or Chad Johnson or Brett Favre.

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by Latif Masud on Jul 24, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I could not agree more.

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Are you serious?

You could honestly read what he wrote and say that it was not an emotional response? Come on man…lol.

My comment about it being a media stunt was a joke.

by KDawg on Jul 24, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions

In fact...

I said that just because I knew he was a punter who has never said anything before in his career…and now all of a sudden he has a lot to say…during a lockout. If not for the lockout, I doubt anyone even reads this crap.

Also…if you read the original post by Sean, you will see that Kluwe struck the first blow.

Vikings punter Chris Kluwe wrote quite the article that tore apart Nate Jackson on Deadspin the other day. The back-story: Kluwe rightfully called the players seeking extra compensation in the Brady v. NFL case “douchebags” earlier this week. Jackson wrote a post on Deadspin in response to this and basically dismissed anything Kluwe had to say because Kluwe is a punter. Well, Kluwe didn’t take too kindly to that and wrote a response that is absolutely hilarious and is a must-read.

by KDawg on Jul 24, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions

My bad

I didn’t understand this 100%…but now I do. Kluwe made a statement on Twitter…calling Brees, brady, and Manning douchebags. Jackson wrote an article in response on Deadspin. Kluwe responded to that response, also on Deadspin.

by KDawg on Jul 24, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions

lol...

And he also never called out Tom Brady…it was Brees, Manning, Mankins, and Jackson.

by KDawg on Jul 24, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions

yup

by joshsun on Jul 24, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

yup

I don’t know what Twitter was intended to be when it was created, but it has effectively removed the filter from the brain to the mouth. I have a sneaking feeling that there’s going to be so many more front page headlines because of deposits in the Twitter toilet. I’m even willing to bet that at least one athlete will lose their job for it. I also predict a big to do when clubs try to enfore Twitter restrictions more than they already have. If the Gods had waited until modern times to create Pandora’s box, they would have created Twitter. @pandorasbox

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Jul 24, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions