DE position (thinner than it looks????)

I like Turk, but honestly, basically everyone on the D-Line, with the exception of SLH, can play end…

I dont think we have anything to worry about, and that Big Willie Young will be fine when he is needed..

meaing that Young will only need to come in when injurys or for a play or two a game.

Having a fanpost because we’re worried about how to fill our FOURTH defensive end spot…

rollin with LoJack and Big Willie as the back-ups. Avril WILL be there. He’s not going to pay the 30K per day fine for holding out. Worst case Fairley could line up at DE in a emergency scenerio. Man thats scary, a line of
          KVB Williams SUH Fairley
  Durant Tulloch Levy

there is always time for the Lions to trade for Osi Umenura of the Giants. He wants out, they approve his ability to look for a trade, and it will cost a first round pick.

Whatdaya think?

the only concern is the fact that Turk was definitely a role player personnel on this team. He brought it when he played and gave some much needed rest to the line however a lot of this Line is interchangeable as some have explained so i dont think it will affect the Lions much + this is the chance for them to see who/what else they have. Gun and Schwartz are masterminds on Defense and students as well as teachers of the game they’ll find a way to utilize what they do have not worry about what they dont.

If I was the coach, KVB would be starting on the RDE and LoJack would start on the LDE. IMO LoJack is actually better than Avril. I would basically rotate Cliff on on both RDE and LDE for snaps so that we essentially have 3 starting DE’s. Splitting the snaps much like it is planned to be with the DT’s.

Bust still after that we have Andre Fluellen and Willie Young who IMO can easily be rotational players as well. Flu is a very similar player to Turk if you ask me. While Turk has more leg drive and a bit better pass rush, Flu is very strong in his upper body and a bit more stout against the run. But the difference if you ask me is pretty minimal and I don’t see much drop off with him out there.

Willie Young is a bit of an enigma, the guy has gamer and play maker written all over him, and if I was a coach, which I am not, I would be finding a way to get this guy more snaps this year.

Personally, I like Avril a lot, and I would love to see him stay in Honolulu Blue for my own selfish, personal, emotional reasons. However the best thing for the team would be for another team to sign him and give us the pick on his tender. Barring that, even if we could trade him for a 2nd round pick I would be all over that. Hopefully Mayhew can work some magic and find some room on the cap for a long term deal with him, but if he leaves it is not exactly the worst thing for the Lions and might well be the best thing for them in the long haul.

He’s been tendered with a first he’s not going anywere. I’m sure he will get his contract before next season. I’m not concerened I wanna see what grounds keeper willy has anyway. Now we get to.

Between the 30K per day fine and the new rules about free agency and accrued league years he does not have the leverage you think he does.

Frankly, I am not very happy with Cliff. He knows damned well he is going to start camp on his tender offer. He should just sign it and get his ass to camp where he belongs. He may not be able to practice until Aug 4th but he could be there are part of the team and show where his head is at. Instead he is pissing and moaning about his contract.

When Avril was tendered at the first round level he immediately got a good raise. Avril’s base salary in 2010 was $470,000. Under his tender offer it would go up to $2,773,000. So even if he just signs the tender he is getting a about four times as much money as he was being paid on his rookie contract. So where is the problem here?

I don’t care what Avril is thinking. His holdout is a stark contrast to the attitude that is being displayed by everybody else on the team. He has put himself ahead of the team even though he has gotten a fair offer for a contract. I DON’T CARE if he cannot practice until August 4th. He could be learning any new wrinkles in the playbook, getting reconnected with his teammates, getting all the physicals and conditioning test out of the way, etc. There are things he could be getting done so that he is ready to go immediately on Aug 4th. Apparently he does not like being in that locker room as much as he likes working out by himself at home.

It’s a business, on both sides. He has the right to to wait till the 4th to sign, to see if any team would make an offer. I doubt it will happen…but it’s his right, and I wont hold it against him. If he doesn’t show up on the 4th, then he’s being selfish imho.

I see us as fine on the D-Line.