Detroit Lions 53-Man Roster Prediction (Pre-Preseason Edition)
It's not easy to predict what the 53-man roster will look like before the Detroit Lions have even played a game, but it is pretty fun to take a stab at what will happen when the dust settles on the final round of cuts next month.
Over the coming weeks it will become easier and easier to predict what will happen as we get more information from practices and preseason games. For now early camp reports and what the Lions have done in the past are the best indicators for what the 53-man roster will look like. Based on that information I have put together my first 53-man roster prediction. You can check it out below, and make sure to leave your thoughts and predictions of your own in the comments.
Quarterback
Keep (3): Matthew Stafford, Shaun Hill, Drew Stanton
Cut: Zac Robinson
Barring an injury, this is one of the positions on the Lions roster without any real question marks. If Stafford, Hill and Stanton stay healthy, they will make the 53-man roster and Robinson will be released. Robinson will likely later be signed to the practice squad as long as no other teams try to add him to their active roster.
Running Back
Keep (3): Jahvid Best, Maurice Morris, Jerome Harrison
Cut: Aaron Brown, Mike Bell, Ian Johnson
Place on IR: Mikel Leshoure
This was one of the tougher calls to make. Not only have Harrison and Bell only been on the team for a few days, but what will happen with Brown could depend on how someone at another position performs (more on that in a second). I ultimately chose Harrison to join Best and Morris on the 53-man roster because he seems to have more upside than the other backs and appears to be more likely to contribute on a regular basis for the Lions.
Fullback
Keep (1): Jerome Felton
Cut: Matt Clapp
I know a lot of people have jumped on the cut Felton bandwagon, but I'm not ready to do that just yet. The Lions seem to like Felton quite a bit, and before any games have been played I would peg him as the favorite to return at fullback. That said, this will be one of the more interesting battles to watch as actual games are played.
Wide Receiver
Keep (6): Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, Titus Young, Stefan Logan, Rashied Davis, Derrick Williams
Cut: Tim Toone, Maurice Stovall, Nate Hughes, Demario Ballard, Dominique Barnes, Marcus Harris
The reason I decided to keep six wide receivers and only three running backs is because of Williams. While he isn't necessarily competing directly with Brown for a spot on the roster, the number of players the Lions ultimately keep at each position will likely come down to how these two players perform during the preseason.
There are four main reasons why I went with Williams as the sixth WR instead of Brown as the fourth RB: 1) Williams has reportedly had the best camp of his career so far; 2) With Young missing so much time, Williams has gotten a chance to show he can be perform as the Lions' third WR; 3) Although special teams is important for players like Williams, the Lions aren't hurting for good special teams performers with both Davis and Logan expected to make the team; and 4) The chances of Williams contributing at WR seem higher than Brown contributing at RB.
Tight End
Keep (3): Brandon Pettigrew, Tony Scheffler, Will Heller
Cut: Richard Dickson, Joe Jon Finley
Like quarterback, there aren't really any question marks at tight end. If healthy, Pettigrew, Scheffler and Heller should be the Lions' three TEs for 2011.
Offensive Tackle
Keep (4): Jeff Backus, Gosder Cherilus, Jason Fox, Corey Hilliard
Cut: Johnny Culbreath, Tony Ugoh, Isaac Sowells, Kirk Chambers
Injuries have created some uncertainty at offensive tackle with coaches having to shuffle players around to even have a set of No. 1 OTs at times. Even so, by the time the final round of roster cuts rolls around, chances are there won't be too many question marks here. If healthy, Backus and Cherilus are the starters and Hilliard and Fox are set to be the backups. Chances are nobody else at the position will make the team, although Culbreath will almost certainly be signed to the practice squad if he is let go.
Offensive Guard
Keep (3): Rob Sims, Stephen Peterman, Donald Thomas
Cut: Greg Niland
Like they have in the past, the Lions will likely only keep three guards. The two starters are Sims and Peterman and the backup is Thomas. I gave Thomas the nod because of his versatility. He helped fill in at tackle early on in training camp and has shown he can play multiple positions. On the offensive line, versatility is very valued.
Center
Keep (2): Dominic Raiola, Dylan Gandy
Cut: Dan Gerberry, Rudy Niswanger
Speaking of versatility, that is why I expect Gandy to once again make the team as Raiola's backup at center. Niswanger can play guard and center as well, but right now I have Gandy edging him and Gerberry out to make the team.
Defensive End
Keep (4): Kyle Vanden Bosch, Cliff Avril, Lawrence Jackson, Willie Young
Cut: Narada Williams, Keyunta Dawson
Had Turk McBride re-signed with the Lions, it would have been interesting to watch the battle for a roster spot between Young and someone like Fluellen. With McBride now in New Orleans, the defensive end position is set right now with Vanden Bosch, Avril, Jackson and Young.
Defensive Tackle
Keep (5): Ndamukong Suh, Corey Williams, Nick Fairley, Sammie Hill, Andre Fluellen
Cut: Robert Callaway, Quinn Pitcock, Montavious Stanley
The Lions have kept five defensive ends and four defensive tackles the last two years. With there not being a fifth DE worthy of a roster spot, I expect Fluellen to make the team as the fifth DT this year. He started off as a DE, so he can move around on the D-line, and I think he's a better bet to stick around than someone like Callaway or Pitcock.
Linebacker
Keep (6): DeAndre Levy, Stephen Tulloch, Justin Durant, Bobby Carpenter, Isaiah Ekejiuba, Ashlee Palmer
Cut: Doug Hogue, Caleb Campbell, Cobrani Mixon, DeJuan Fulghum
Although the Lions' two-deep at linebacker is essentially set with Levy, Tulloch, Durant, Carpenter, Ekejiuba and Palmer, there is some uncertainty with how many LBs will make the team. I debated keeping Hogue on the 53-man roster, but I ultimately decided that the Lions will be more apt to attempt to put him on the practice squad and move forward with their top six LBs.
Cornerback
Keep (6): Chris Houston, Eric Wright, Alphonso Smith, Aaron Berry, Nathan Vasher, Brandon McDonald
Cut: Paul Pratt, Prince Miller
Part of the reason I only kept six LBs is because I wanted to keep six cornerbacks as well. Houston, Wright, Smith and Berry are virtual locks to make the team, and I think both Vasher and McDonald are deserving of a spot as well. Keeping all six of them would give the Lions solid depth at cornerback, and I see more value in keeping both Vasher and McDonald instead of Hogue as the seventh linebacker.
Safety
Keep (4): Louis Delmas, Amari Spievey, Erik Coleman, John Wendling
Cut: Randy Phillips, Ricardo Silva, Michael Johnson
Delmas and Spievey are on track to be the starters at safety for the Lions, and Coleman is set to be the primary backup. Wendling is one of the best special teams players in the league right now, so he will probably earn a spot for that reason alone. Because spots in the secondary are limited with six corners being kept, that means there is no room for an additional safety.
Special Teams
Keep (3): Jason Hanson, Nick Harris, Don Muhlbach
Cut: Dave Rayner, Ryan Donahue
Barring an injury, I have a tough time seeing Hanson and Harris getting beat out by Rayner and Donahue, respectively. As a result, I went with the Lions usual special teams group of Hanson, Harris and Muhlbach.
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Just as Ive been saying since February
Were gonna go pretty much with who we had, with a couple of changes. Thanks Sean :)
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I was suprised you did not mention placing Ballard on the practice team.
Other then that I agree so far. I think the only spot that might change is Houge making the team.
Ballard is a good bet for the practice squad for sure
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Ballard won't make the practice team because someone will pick him up no doubt
maybe i see something most don’t …i see D will as someone who could fill in at 3rd wideout with minial ST value. I see Ballard as someone who could score alot of TD because of his match up issues he provides.
Good predictions...
Though, I think you’re right in assuming the LBers and CB’s… RBs and WRs positions will definitely be affecting each other… almost competing against each other…
…. how refreshing!
I would make just a few changes...
I like Randy Philips over Coleman at Safety.
Matt Clapp over Felton (but I understand your reasoning)
MAYBE Stovall or Ballard over Williams (depends on pre-season)
Even though i like ballard
I believe the person with the best chance is Stovall cause hes got more experience and more polished as a reciever than Ballard and his measurables
by Liontotheextreme on Aug 12, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
Beyond that look at the fact that Stovall isn’t that far off in terms of measurables, has 5 years pro experience already, and is 1 year younger than Ballard! I never paid attention to Stovall playing before and haven’t seen Ballard so I can’t say who is more likely to make it or not tho.
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Looks good.
I personally would probably prefer to keep Hogue on the roster and let McDonald go, but that’s mainly because we’ve invested a fifth round pick in him and I’m nervous that somebody will scoop him up, as I can’t imagine that Mayhew would’ve used a fifth-rounder on him if there weren’t other teams interested in him.
And I realize a lot of Lions fans have a great disdain for D-Will, and with good reason… but Ballard ain’t making the final roster people, barring an insane performance in preseason games.
i do agree that Ballard has to play well in order to make the team....
makes watching the preseason more interesting. I think the difference to me is i think Ballard could be special .. where as D-will i don’t see him as a special player… that is pretty much that.
Everything that I've heard
has suggested that D-Will has been a beast thus far in training camp, and I haven’t heard anything about Ballard since Kowalski’s in-depth report that essentially said “this dude is really tall.”
We’ll find out soon enough how it all unravels.
i heard more than "he is tall"
he has played very well… i have seen big wideouts before. And not alot impress me. What impresses me about Ballard is that he plays big..he jumps really high and he has a knack for those jump ball situations. Key plays that won alot of football games last year around the NFL from big wideouts in the end zone… big targets are hard to ignore.
Really nice job, I would only make on change.
Cut: Brandon McDonald
Keep: Doug Hogue
I don’t have the best of reason, I just fear another team would claim Doug Hogue and he still is unknown quantity.
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by LeyandsMarlboros on Aug 12, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It looks for sure that there are a good 45 positions pretty much set.
As for the rest:
Running back could have 2 or even 3 surprises.
Felton could get ousted at fullback
The 4th,5th, and possibly 6th WR (if there is one) spots are up for grabs
I could see an upset on the D-Line with Flu getting cut and someone else making it.
Coleman could get bumped out if Phillips really plays well through the rest of the preseason.
Rayner could steal the kicking job from Hanson
Out of all those, probably only a few “upsets” will happen, but it will still be interesting to see what transpires.
by WestsideLionsFan on Aug 12, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
Thats what makes this first preseason most important
We will see a lot more of the people fighting for spots than any other preseason game. I agree with all of those. Not so much on the Coleman move cause i think he could still keep it if he plays well enough, its his backup to lose. I want Rayner but i cant see us giving up on Hanson, i just cant but i think this or next year will be his last for sure. 20 years of hard dedicated service and he has wanted to be a winner and hopefully we can give that Lombarti to him and barry cause they both deserve it
by Liontotheextreme on Aug 12, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right on about Hanson deserving the Lombardi...but unfortunatley you're dead wrong about Barry!!!
Don’t get me wrong I have “Man Love” for the guy. I have a #20 shirt, one of his highlight video’s, and season tickets when he played cause I knew I was watching something special. I took my son to his 1st game when Barry broke 2000 yards, and Brown became parylised(?) :(
He’s the most special athlete I’ve ever witnessed!!!……But the fact is the man quit on his team.
Not just the fans,or the coaches, but his team. I don’t care if you have personal reasons or not you either #1) fulfill your contract, or… #2) give the “Team” sufficient time to replace you. Barry did neither. When I heard on the radio that Barry quit by e-mail, I knew it was a joke,but my heart sank when I realized it was the truth…it was one of my darkest days ever. So! No! Barry doesn’t deserve that trophy even after all his accomplishments….because in the end it’s about the TEAM and not an individual and Barry simply quit on his. O.k. I’ve vented I feel better, sorry if I’ve offended anyone. GO LIONS!!!!
by Mayhew's the Mane man on Aug 12, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Good work Sean
I’m not really sure I can disagree with that team at all. I feel like it is also so much more solid than it has been in a long while. We have room to improve of course, without question. But I just think we have the makings of a team that, if we gel, it could be extremely special. It’s SO awful that we lost Leshoure, but we could still be very strong at RB with the right play.
USE THE SCHWARTZ!!!
Bubble players
Erik Coleman—having a dreadfull camp
Jerome Felton—Clapp is leading in early returns
Will Heller—Don’t look now, but Finley is looking tough
if the crazy Turk was chopping tomorrow
do you think Phillips has shown enough progress to warrant keeping him over Coleman?
do you think Clapp has?
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
Heller is a lock..
The guys is just as good, if not better of a blocker as Grew is and has sure hands. Not to mention he can line up at FB in a pinch as well
by CR on Aug 12, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
My 53 man roster
There will be 53 men on the roster.
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My guess is
This is the most accurate roster prediction in existence
Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now
by Justan Oldfart on Aug 12, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
see, now I think
there will be 52 men and 1 umpaloompa
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
and 1 umpaloompa
exactly right….Dom Raiola
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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Beat me to the punch. Friggin login.
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by delusional on Nov 20, 2010 9:51 PM PST via mobile
Like you said, so hard to predict this stuff. Some thoughts came up while I was reading.
Center: I would not count Gerberry out just yet, I will be very interested to see if he can unseat Gandy as the backup center and a swing guard.
LInebacker: I find it hard to believer we would cut Dogue Hogue after spending a 5th round pick on this year. I don’t think there is any way he clears waivers if cut. I expect Palmer and Carpenter to be in a heated battle for the 6th spot and could see us even carrying 7 line backers. I also would not be surprised to see Ekejiuba not make the squad as his contributions are mainly on special teams coverage. I would expect Hogue to make the roster even over him. The 5th round pick just puts a lot more investment into him as an organization than a guy we picked up off waivers last year.
Special Teams: I am kind of rooting for Rayner. As much as I like Jason Hanson, he just cannot seem to stay healthy. That is not to say that Rayner will make the team but I would not be shocked if that was the outcome either. IMO this is the hardest battles to predict of any.
I also expect we might keep 4 running backs. I actually think Mike Bell will be in the mix there too.
Such tough calls but I agree with most of the logic in the original post. I think we might only carry 4 DT’s this year and we may end up seeing Fluellen parting ways with the team as well. However I am pretty sure that a couple guys will go on the PuP list. Backus might end up there, along with Fairley which would allow the Lions to carry two others until week 6.
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Agree
on almost all points. Harrison is good but not the complement to best we are looking for (short yardage). I also think it would be ridiculous to cut a 5th round pick. I still want to see Ballard over Davis if his pre-season matches his camp.
I just have a gut feeling that Fluellen gets traded for something.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Aug 12, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
or something
would be my guess. That is if he doesn’t make the team. Flu won’t command much trade value especially since other teams realize he is on the bubble
Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now
by Justan Oldfart on Aug 12, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Bell stinks Evil, just see past Denver RB's... Orlando Gary, Tatum Bell...
Clinton Portis Is the only guy I can think of who did anything afterwards off the top of my head, and he wound up back with Shannihan coaching him in Washington. Harrison and Mo Mo all the way!!!
by Mayhew's the Mane man on Aug 12, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Im wondering...
If this kick off rule (way to many touchbacks), may open the door Ballard over Davis. Just a thought.
Yeah!
I was thinking the exact same thing. I love Logan but if you can keep someone better around…who knows
by LionsFan1992 on Aug 12, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on Linehan's comments...
I would be surprised if Davis got released.
“Rashied Davis, there’s a guy I can’t say enough about, the kind of pro you want to have,” Linehan said. “I’m able to show the young guys that this is a 32-year-old veteran, a special teamer, who has been in this league (seven) years because he just does everything 100 percent and right. He’s been a great example for those guys. He’s going to be out there playing on our special teams a lot, and you’ll see him jump in there on offensive plays and be a really effective receiver for us. He’s really caught my eye out here on the field.”
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2011/08/scott_linehan_banged-up_detroi.html
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Nice work Sean
If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
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Ballard could come into the games and suck it up big time...
you never know. But it just seems like if Ballard plays well. …. and i mean in the red zone and jump ball situations it would provide for a almost impossible to cut him. I mean he would be in a very unique situation. Because in those siutations on this team we already have Calvin Johnson who can not be covered one on one from the 35 yard line in…. then you add another guy on the other side that excels in those situations and it would be very hard to defend… just saying if he turns out that he is as good in those situations as what i have seen from practice and games it will be hard to keep a 32 year old special teamer/ok 4th wideout over him
Anyone else want an Iced Tea?
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ya
I can’t figure out why but for some reason when I read PoD today I’ve been craving iced tea.
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now
im craving an iced tea dang you guys
by hate2lovelions on Aug 12, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That's perfect
because I’ll take either
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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Definitely a "devil you know" element to this list
But that’s to be expected. I’m betting there’s at least one surprise somewhere, though. Somebody we don’t expect getting cut and someone else making it.
Looks solid
Another point in the Williams over Brown argument is that Stefan Logan is really more of a 4th HB than he is a 6th WR anyway.
But as far as the D-line… Uncle Killer was praising DE Keyunta Dawson yesterday in regards to what he’s seen from him in camp so far, saying…
“This guy’s got something. He really caught my eye at camp. He’s got some speed off the edge. He’s got some pop. He flashes. He reacts well. He recognizes things.”
So maybe Dawson challenges Flu for that roster spot, and they end up with 5 DEs and 4 DTs once again.
by Forward Down The Field on Aug 12, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
it is hard to measure coaches comments sometimes
I think they really have alot of positives about everyone… yet i think they say negatives about players they don’t want other teams to pick up on… like if they wanted to cut him and bring Keyunta back to the practice squad they may say “he really needs alot of work he is raw”… ie throw other teams off their trail.
Wow, Sean, My Roster Was Only Four Guys Off From Yours !
…I missed by keeping Clapp & Aaron Brown, and cutting Vasher and (gasp!) Jason Hanson. Not too shabby for a first try. I give credit to your top-shelf and frequent posts on POD ! Thanks for the big-league help!
by LionFanInChiefsLand on Aug 12, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions
doug >>>> flu
disagree with a few but overall agree
really a shot in the dark at some spot though
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suck not seeing cullbrath making the team as well.. i dont think he would last on the PS..
doug certainly wouldn’t
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just a question?????
i saw that kevin smith was still unsigned. why wouldnt they let derrick williams go and signed smith to 1 year deal he knows playbook already a year from surgery, and i think would be good insurance.
The Lions DO NOT WANT Kevin Smith on our roster ever again
You can tell the players that are roster casualties and those that the FO doesn’t want back…Smith is one they do not want back.
I think your pretty much spot on Sean
I’d be more likely to switch Aaron Brown for D-Will. Keep 4 Rb’s. Also, I’d like to think Hogue would make the team somehow.
Not what I'm guessing
RB: Mike Bell will make the roster in addition to what you have
WR: Cut-D Will
LB: Makes Cut: Hogue
S: Cut-Coleman….Makes Cut: Philips
LS: I think this is finally the year we stop wasting a roster spot on Don Muhlback.




























