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Lions Roll Bengals In Preseason Opener, 34-3

The Detroit Lions opened the 2011 preseason just like they finished the 2010 regular season -- with a win. The Lions blew out Cincinnati in the first preseason game of the year with a 34-3 victory that included two touchdown passes by Matthew Stafford, a touchdown run by Shaun Hill, a field goal by Jason Hanson, a touchdown pass by Zac Robinson and a field goal by Dave Rayner.

Friday night's game opened with the Lions getting the ball and Stafford leading the offense down the field. It took the Lions only seven plays and 3:31 to go 67 yards and get the scoring started. Fittingly, Stafford connected with Calvin Johnson on a 26-yard pass for his first of two touchdowns. The second one came after the Lions recovered a fumble on the ensuing kickoff and Stafford found Nate Burleson on a fade route for a seven-yard touchdown. The TD pass came on 4th and 1 and was only ruled a score after Jim Schwartz challenged the original call of an incompletion.

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The Bengals didn't fumble the next kickoff, so Andy Dalton finally got a chance to take his first career snap in the NFL. It didn't go so well, though. Dalton threw a bad pass down the field and was picked off by Chris Houston, who caught the ball like he was a receiver.

The Lions didn't score any points off the turnover with the second-team offense coming in, and they failed to move the ball again after a Cincinnati punt. The punt came after Cedric Benson had quite a bit of success running the ball, but the defense eventually did make a stop.

The defense did something similar the next time on the field. The Bengals moved the ball deep into Lions territory thanks to a late hit by Stephen Tulloch and Ndamukong Suh treating Dalton like Jake Delhomme and ripping his helmet off. The penalties put Cincinnati in position to score, but the defense ultimately made a stop. The Bengals still got points, but only on a 27-yard field goal.

The third time out for the second-team offense was the charm for the Lions. Hill led the team down the field out of the shotgun on all but one play and capped off an 11-play, 76-yard drive with a seven-yard touchdown run. He flipped into the end zone to score the TD, and for his celebration he saluted his late father by pointing to the sky. It was a great tribute and a great drive by Hill.

The Bengals put together a good drive of their own the next time they had the ball. It lasted 13 plays and 7:17, but they didn't get any points out of it. The Lions' defense made a stop after having some issues earlier in the drive, and Cincinnati missed a 42-yard field goal.

The Lions took over with 1:55 to go in the half and Drew Stanton in at quarterback for the first time. He was the victim of some drops, but the Lions still were able to get in position to add a 37-yard field goal before time expired. It wasn't easy to get the kick off, though. The clock was running out on the Lions and the field goal team had to hurry onto the field to get the kick off in time. The Lions successfully pulled off the hurry-up drill and Hanson nailed the kick to give Detroit a 24-3 lead.

There wasn't nearly as much action in the second half. The Lions went three and out to start the half, and Cincinnati's first drive of the third quarter didn't produce any points, either. The Bengals did move the ball well again, this time with a 12-play drive that lasted 6:43, but they were unable to move the chains on 4th and 3, giving the ball back to Detroit.

After trading punts to end the third quarter, Zac Robinson came in at quarterback and quickly added another touchdown for the Lions. A 24-yard pass interference penalty on the Bengals helped Detroit out quite a bit, and Robinson made Cincinnati pay for the mistake with a very nice 28-yard touchdown pass to Nate Hughes.

After again trading punts, the Lions got the ball back on an interception by Ricardo Silva. Willie Young pressured Jordan Palmer into the errant throw, and the Lions ended up getting a 44-yard field goal by Dave Rayner out of the turnover. That was the final score of the game for either team, as the Lions forced a three and out and then ran out the clock by taking a knee three times.

Obviously you can never take too much from the preseason, especially against a team that just clearly isn't very good (it's nice saying this about the other team for a change), but it was nice to see the Lions play so well in a 34-3 win. Stafford looked sharp; Jahvid Best ran the ball well despite the offensive line not doing a great job in run blocking; the backup quarterbacks all performed extremely well; and despite struggling at times the defense only gave up three points.

The Lions will get a day off on Saturday to enjoy the victory and then it's back to work. The Lions are headed to Cleveland to play the Browns next Friday, and preparation for that game will begin on Sunday. In the meantime check back in to Pride of Detroit over the weekend for more analysis on this game.

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by alpha lion on Aug 12, 2011 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

we looked great

Wish we had played the jets. The comment will be not how the lions won but how cincy lost.still, great to watch.

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by chaunce on Aug 12, 2011 10:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks for putting the score in the headline

Spoiler alert lol..j/k Sounded like a great game. Can’t wait to see it

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by The Profiler on Aug 12, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

That was just fun

Hard to say what it means, but it sure was fun to watch. First team offense looked outstanding.

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 12, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Stafford and Co. looked awesome...

even with the lose of Leshoure this offense is going to be very dangerous. Jim and Gun need to tighten up the D some but since this is there first time all playing together live i will cut em some slack.

Didnt have the preveledge of watching the game but listened to it on the radio, was it me or was Cincy avoiding Wright. Way to start the preseason boys…

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by SmittyJ on Aug 12, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

they sure did

I don’t think they threw his direction at all. Houston looked better, not great tho, at turning his head too. That was key in his INT too.

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

agree on both accounts

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by rames on Aug 12, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Houston actually surprised me...

I was one of his biggest fans last year but this i have been treating him like a red headed step child. It comes down to loyalty and when Houston was ready to test the open market and skip out of town i was done with him.

I am stoked that he looked good and is getting his head around. Did McDonald look good or bad or whatever? I cant wait to have Phonz and Berry back its going to be int city…

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by SmittyJ on Aug 13, 2011 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think McDonald played decent, not great

Was out of position slightly on a few plays that let WR catch the ball, but overall pretty decent. Didn’t miss tackles.

by JFisch on Aug 13, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I more meant McDonald made a strong case

For making the roster. I don’t see him outing anyone for first string, but he’s a competent backup to be sure.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it is a numbers game... i don't see Mcdonald making it unless

he excels in coverage…. and tackling someone after they made a catch on your isn’t “exceling in coverge”. Good player… nothing special when the ball is in the air.

by Shankdiddy on Aug 13, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except

He wasn’t just tackling “his guy” after they made a catch. He was all over the place, solid run coverage, helping assist tackles on other receivers, etc. That isn’t something that can be swept under the rug.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

His breaks on the ball were slow...

His guy caught how many passes? like 5 in a row? he was 2 steps off everytime.

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is he a starter?

No.

Am I calling for him to be a starter? No.

Can he make the final roster? Yes, he can.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way

he played much better that Miller and Pratt. He also a a very nice PD…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think pratt had a nice PR later in the game too

I think.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree, he stopped a pass...

For only a two yard gain and prevented the bengals from getting a first down because of it. His tackles were sure, and he did nit give nearly as much ground as a lot of the naysayers here are trying to say. Brandon McDonald was very strong last night.

by TuffLynx on Aug 14, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's right

I don’t know that he has the eye to jump routes like Phonz tho but when it comes to stopping the play McD is the way to go. It’ll be an interesting battle for nickle.

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 14, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Which makes me wonder what is Hills trade value?

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by RealityIsOptionable on Aug 12, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too..

I doubt it’s a whole lot, but it has to be something. I’m not throwing Hill under the bus. I’m thinking Stanton is ready for #2. It’s too early with Robinson but perhaps he’s good enough for #3 who wont need to get used this year :)

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, I like Hill. I'm just thinking "buy low sell high"

maybe a 6th?

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by RealityIsOptionable on Aug 12, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

6th, at the least

ideally he could get bundled in on a player for player with picks type trade for a square peg future pro bowler for us :) haha ok, i’m drunk with kool aid with this FO

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

relax, it is just spitballing.

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by RealityIsOptionable on Aug 12, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You guys are fricking retarded

REally? Why do you want to trade Shaun Hill?? What the fuck in this world would make you think trading our backup QB for a 6th rounder is a good idea??!?!??
Stop this crap right now.
Maybe if someone offered a 1st rounder we’d have the luxury to get rid of him for that, but until then, shut it. We need all the QBs we have. We went through 87 QBs last year and now you want to trade our 2nd best one. Glad you’re not GM.

by JFisch on Aug 13, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Simmer down, killer...

The FO clearly wouldn’t make that move for anything less than a 5th. LOL. fans flames

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by Forty Handz on Aug 13, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chill out dude

I like Shaun Hill. In my opinion he’s easily in the best 3 backup QB’s in the league. I’m just saying that a lot of teams need a starting QB. We gave up a 4th rounder a few years ago for him and we would need a lot more than that to give him up.

by coolbreeze42 on Aug 13, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hear y a

I wouldn’t want to give him away.

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would not give him away either,

but I do not view Hill as untouchable

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by RealityIsOptionable on Aug 12, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's definitely not untouchable

but I’d rather keep our QB depth as it is right now until Staff can show that he can make it through a whole season. If Staff stays healthy, we can re-sign Stanton as our backup and see what we can get for Hill in the offseason.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Couldnt agree more.

   I like having the depth we have at QB. Let’s see Stafford make it through the entire season before we start talking trading Hill. I do like Robinson too.

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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Aug 13, 2011 12:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i say trade a quarterback ...

i say we better trade hill now…..because he still has value…. or trade stanton now because he is on a one year deal… the next feew games could increase their market value

by Shankdiddy on Aug 13, 2011 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stafford, Hill, and Stanton

Are not going anywhere. If there is any QB traded, it will be Robinson.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

He signed a two-year deal this offseason, so he’s under contract for next season.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anything, we should be talking about trading Stanton

He’s going to leave via free agency guys… He would have this year if it weren’t for the ridiculous number of QBs looking for a job, and relatively few places willing to gamble on a new guy in a shortened offseason.

How long of a contract did Stanton sign? A year? Two?

He’s just biding his time until he can go somewhere that he’ll have a shot at starting, before its too late.

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by Nate D. on Aug 13, 2011 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

Stanton only signed a one-year deal, so he’ll be a FA again next offseason, and I could totally be wrong about this, but he doesn’t strike me as a guy who’s content being a career backup in the way that Shaun Hill is.

But as I said, I’d prefer to keep both of them this year and sort it out in the offseason.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think he is content to stay here

As long as they offer him what he wants, and the team is winning, why would he leave? There are no real places for him to go, where he would be the clear cut starter.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see him as

being worth no less than a 3rd round pick, considering the year he had last year. Since we cannot get a 3rd rounder….

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by studmo on Aug 13, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

He sure did

Too bad he missed Toone on that seam route, but other than that he was great

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 12, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stanton really improved his accuracy...

Too bad his #1 scrub receiver couldn’t hang on to the ball.

D Will is dropping his ass right out of the league. I wouldn’t trust him on the field in anything other then a blowout.

Carpenter, Spievey, Willie Young, Aaron Brown, and all 4 qb’s played great.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

he's not used to there being no holes...

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aaron Brown didn't have any problems.

Or he found his own holes to run to.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 12:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow, just wow

A)Harrison and Bell have been in practice and on the team (as well as most of our OL) for less than a week.
B)Aaron Brown did well, but is it too late? He better show that in the next 3 games. And he almost cost us the FG before half by not getting down sooner.
C)D Will did drop those two from Stanton right away, but then turned around and made a nice catch on a punt-throw from Stanton that seriously went end over end, and made an outstanding catch on an outstanding throw from Stanton in the red zone that didn’t count. D Will was basically a wash. Did any other WR show you something that made your jaw drop? Stovall showed nice hands, but not much else. Hughes caught a TD pass on a perfect throw in which the DB didn’t even come close to being there. Toone did nothing great. Didn’t even barely notice Davis was ever in the game.

by JFisch on Aug 13, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toone had a break away that Stanton missed by 3 yards

That probably would have been a TD, just watched it again. He was in the clear.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stanton overthrew that ball.

Toone wasn’t fast enough to make that catch, even if he tried to leap for an overshoulder grab.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a clear overthrow, and on Stanton

Toone was fast enough to get behind the defense so he can’t be all that slow.

by TuffLynx on Aug 14, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calvin would have caught that.

So would AJ Green on the other side. It wasn’t an uncatchable throw at all; it was just overthrown for how fast Toone was. I blame a lack of rapport between the two mostly; but I definitely don’t blame Toone at all.

by Mavyrk on Aug 14, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ Not telling you anything I don't already know.

That play just made me facepalm, because that was a clean TD in the open.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

I think stanton’s eyes got all wide when he was Toone breaking free behind the defense.

I wonder how much of that is timing from a lack of repetitions between the two.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what I saw, Poor Drew

As soon as Toone broke, Drew couldnt get it there fast enough and let it go to early

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

His only real mistake in my humble opinion.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

A runner if they still have it doesn't forget how to run.

You want to stutter step and bullshit around or do you want to hit a hole hard or make something happen? Brown and even Johnson showed a little something. Harrison and Bell showed me why they were still available.

Granted they’ll have at least a couple more game to prove something.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hmm, it seems to me that about 90% of the runners forget how to run behind Railoa's losy blocking.

There is almost never anything open in the center of the line because he sucks. Please note that all of our successful runs were outside of the guards.or tackles. Nothing was able to go in the A gaps at all.

by TuffLynx on Aug 14, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

would it be legal

to install a ramp on Raiola’s back so they can just launch off of him? It could also perhaps help give him leverage if he’s falling back.

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 14, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

D Will

I’m sorry, two drops on passes don’t make up for 2 catches that were slightly off target. Do you not remember Roy Williams? Sure, he’d make the hard catch from time to time, but he’d drop the easy ones like the were radioactive waste. Needless to say, I am NOT a D Will fan.

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by BBlades on Aug 13, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was FURIOUS

When the ball hit him straight in the facemask. That kind of thing is just plainly unacceptable. I don’t care if he can make the most acrobatic catches in the world if you let a bullet slide right through your hands like that.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was too man

It makes me think…“What would happen if he beats his man down the sideline and Stafford throws a perfect pass that hits him in stride?” What I think would happen…oh no he took his eyes off the ball, incomplete pass.

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by BBlades on Aug 13, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have liked to see Toone get a few more targets

Do we really have any idea if he can create separation? We all saw the one instance where he did and almost had himself a TD if not for a long throw.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife hates his hair... Toone got a "who's that punk"...lol

On that throw from Stanton… it looked liked Toone got jammed or held up at the line… combined with the over throw.

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be honest

When the ball left Stanton’s hand it looked like a surefire touchdown pass; it just had a little too much miracle whip on it.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Technically,

just 1 catch… his catch in the 5 yd line got called back due to holding.

I just can’t believe all the penalties as soon as Stanton got in the game…. facemask, and what, 3 holdings?

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The drops were patheitc

Drew was on the money with every pass that had a chance of being completed. You can’t blame him for missing on the fade (it happens). At least he only threw the ball where his receiver could get it…he never threw a ball that had a chance of being picked off. I love watching him play.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, not every pass.

The miss on the pass to Toone had plenty of chance to be competed. Stanton just flat overthrew it.

by TuffLynx on Aug 14, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stanton threw that ball short...

Cause that’s where it was open… any other spot and it was a pick or incompletion… not sure your point.

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Clearly the opposing CB was shading off and spying Stanton…if he had made the throw all the way to the WR, it would almost certainly have been an INT. He did an excellent job recognizing it and throwing the ball away into the dirt. If anyone noticed, he and Linehan had a short convo about it on the sidelines immediately thereafter, and I saw Drew nod and smile (because he did the right thing).

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

it seemed like last year

with the run game tho. I was overall pretty disappointed with the play calling for the RB too tho. Then again I can’t expect to see much preseason in terms of variety of calls. We didn’t last regular season either tho..

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

The teams still jam the run on the Lions...

because that is how teams have beaten them for years. It is the standard playbook to beat the Lions because they didn’t have QBs that could beat you. When the Lions beat a few teams early with the passing game then the dfensive coordinators will take notice and start playing the pass more honestly. But until the Lions prove they can beat you with the pass the defenses will plat 7 and 8 in the box.

by TuffLynx on Aug 14, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

true dat

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 14, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta give some love to Spievey

the dude was bringing it tonight.

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by JCruize on Aug 12, 2011 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

he really was

McDonald had a good night and sure made a case to stay. I thought Carpenter played well. Wendling showed some talent outside of ST and Ekejiuba showed why it would be tough to not keep him for his ST play.

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the DBs making the roster

Safeties: Delmas, Spievey, Coleman for sure. Wending made a case for himself.

Cornerbacks : Houston, Wright, for sure. McDonald making a case for himself. I saw Vasher out there. Did not really make an impact, but sometimes that is a good thing.

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by JCruize on Aug 13, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Sean was right on the money

I think we will keep 6 CBs (Houston, Wright, Smith, Berry, Vasher, McDonald) and 6 LBs (Tulloch, Levy, Durant, Palmer, Carpenter, Ekeijiuba).

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hogue made some nice plays yesterday

I would be surprised if they dump him after spending a 5th on him.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did show up

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know, for a rook having so little practice time

He was much better than I expected.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he will be sent to the PS

And I also thought he played well. I simply think that our depth at the position will not allow for him on the 53 man roster, especially with Eek playing like he did on ST and Carp/Palmer playing well. If someone goes down, they will bring him up (barring another team claiming him).

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ekeijuba

he a monster on ST. We really missed him last year when he went down. Him and Palmer together=FUN!

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ekeijuba needs a nickname

How about Eeek.

As in, that is the sound the returner makes while watching him torpedo at him.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

double rec!

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG

This season looks like it could be very promising. Stafford looked as sharp as a Ginsu Blade. Amari Spievey was all over the place, I’m extremely impressed by his development. This defense is AGRESSIVE, they legitimately wanna hurt people and I LIKE IT! Somebody better tell the rest of the league to watch their asses…….WE’RE COMIN’.

by fiendishdr.wu on Aug 12, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like we played well

I’ll watch the game later and post up my thoughts.

by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 12, 2011 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, your gonna enjoy this one

for once, it all goes right

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 12, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait till we thro Fairly into the mix

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by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Aug 12, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

oh no doubt!

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's just sick!

seriously!

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by rames on Aug 12, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

There were just a couple of issues I saw tonight

The Run Defense gave up some decent plays (the 1st team) and the run blocking needs to improve a bit, but other than that, the offense looked absolutely fantastic tonight. Stafford was white hot

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by MuleRules on Aug 12, 2011 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

The LB's looked shaky in the run game

The unit as a whole seemed unpleasantly disappointing.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Durant was good cleanup

But he was overpursuing. Still, good to know he’s got the hustle in him to fix mistakes.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 12:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow again

You dumbies…

A)We were running run plays with 8 men in the box because we wanted to just practice basically. Schwartz said himself that they were running right into blitzes. What else are you supposed to do in Preseason? If Cincy is going to be dicks and stack the box in preseason, then we’re not going to be able to run. In the regular season you bet they wouldn’t have been that crammed to the line and we would have had much more success running. And not to mention we had neither of our starting LT.

B)Once again, Tulloch and Durant have been in camp all of what, a week? And they’re not killing it yet?!!?!? WTF?@!?!?!!?!?!?! OMG!!?!?!?!
Settle down. It’s preseason. NONE OF THIS MATTERS AT ALL…………..AT ALL.

We went 4-0 in the unmentionable season.

by JFisch on Aug 13, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh.

Pump the brakes. I was making an observation, I wasn’t roasting Durant over the fire; in fact, I actually complimented him in that comment.

You need to relax.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't talking to you...

sorry Mav. Was talking to the 3 above ya.

by JFisch on Aug 13, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the "linebackers look shaky"

is a not a good observation?…lol

Who’s over reacting?

Ass.

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not familiar with the word "dumbie"

and I’m pretty sure that it’s actually not one, but I think it’s pretty damn funny that you’re suggesting that we’re the ones freaking out, yet your response seems to be the one that’s overly emotional.

And yes, the preseason W-L record is meaningless, but to say Preseason itself is meaningless sounds… how do I say it without coming off like a prick… uninformed.

I never said that the unit won’t improve, as I fully expect them too. But they sure as hell didn’t look very good last night.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were certainly "shaky" against the run

And more than once I noticed that Tulloch was out of position in the opposite direction of the play. As he tried to come back across the field in pursuit, he was quickly and rather easily blocked. I sure hope that improves.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't blame this on being rusty or in a new system

The guy is a veteran MLB…he should know better.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

no better?

than what? I’m not sure, specifically what we’re talking about here

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think what he meant was

Tully was, too often for his liking, out of place and looking to catch up on run plays.

LB is a difficult position to judge. LBs often fill a gap, forcing the RB to a different gap and as a result look to be in the “wrong gap”.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I meant

He was out of position a lot, and it looked like he was not taking time to read before he reacted. IE he would run to cover the TE on the strong side, when the play was a run to the weak side. If he were reading and then reacting, he would have read run and then been in position to meet the back in the hole, instead of having to redirect and pursue.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Tulloc is a veteran MLB

So why would you be surprised that he has some adjusting to do when he is playing outside linebacker? Maybe the reason a lot of people decided Tulloch was out of position is because he was not playing MLB and they expected him to be in the middle.

by TuffLynx on Aug 14, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's pretty true for vets

look at the steelers every preseason…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

   I think they just need to keep developing that chemistry and they’ll be fine.

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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Aug 13, 2011 12:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

For sure.

Rather it happen in preseason then in actual games. I don’t doubt that they’ll be spending a lot of time in the film room working out the kinks in between now and the Bucs game.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

disagree

I hear ya, and Benson had a couple nice runs. But I thought Durant looked good and then Carpenter really showed up strong after that.

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I shortchanged the Lions a TD with my pre-game prediction of a 27-3 final score

It’s a shame that the Lions still can’t run the ball though. Sure, the O-line doesn’t run-block very well, but I’m even more bummed about losing Leshoure after watching his replacements tonight. If I were Mayhew, I’d still keep my eyes peeled for an opportunity to acquire a legit power back.

by Forward Down The Field on Aug 12, 2011 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

ya I agree

damn I’m still pissed no LeRon McClain :(

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too!

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by rames on Aug 12, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

in all honesty though...

even LeRon McClain would’ve had issues running behind the line tonight

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by MuleRules on Aug 12, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it dosn't improve

we’ll be one pass happy team

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by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Aug 12, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Packers didn't have the greatest run game and they won the SB...

I’m still confident, run game or no run game.

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by ZWC11 on Aug 13, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps

but he’s got the power he couldn’t just driven through Raiola in the correct direction! lol

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Backus wasn't in and he is our best run blocker.

Plus you have to look at the time that Best was in the game with some encouragement. He was able to do what Barry did. He ran behind a shaky line and made some people miss. Certainly, he is not Barry Sanders, but he will probably have that kind of season where he gets stuffed on one play then runs for eight or ten yards on the next one. Then of curse, there will be the occasional play where he busts out a big run.

by TuffLynx on Aug 13, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

totally agree

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Backus is our best run blocker?

Oh god, if that is the case we are in trouble.

I believe Goz and Peterman (when healthy) are both clearly better in run blocking than Backus.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

I believe peterman is a good run blocker

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by Bighaircut on Aug 13, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Normally I'd agree

but last night I thought he allowed more penetration than I was comfortable seeing.

Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now

by Justan Oldfart on Aug 13, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I spent some time watching Dom

and he seems like he forgot how to anchor. I damn near threw my chair at one point. watching he get pushed backwards time after time.

He has to go on that line before anyone.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny story.

Kid two seats in front of me was waving like crazy at Raiola and Raiola actually made eye contact and waved back. It surprised me, because most of what you hear about Raiola is how much of a douche he can be. But still, it was pretty cool to see.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like Dom

He is an extremely passionate guy. I can’t imagine what he has gone threw in his career. I wish there was a way he could stay on the team and produce but sadly, I am not seeing it.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woooo Woooo!

Internet blog spelling police…through…lol.

Raiola is a jackass, but I suppose I should give him some credit. He is at least one of our most reliable players when it comes to not missing games. There has always been a lot of talk about how good he is at his job around the league, but being a fanatic like I am makes it hard for me to see it. A majority of the time, I only notice the negatives when it comes to Dom. I just wish he was more of a power blocker against the run…then I wouldn’t mind so much that he is just average in pass pro.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh

You know what I meant.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Just being light hearted…:o)

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

its all good

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

your racist calling Raiola a jackass

is an offense to all Umpaloompa Americans everywhere! You know they’re extra sensitive about ass jokes given their constant exposure to them at face level. I’m considering filing a complaint with the NAAUP (national association for the advancement of umpaloompah people)

You’ve been warned

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 13, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice 1 Ee

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 14, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Josh, but no...

The statistics on PFF have clearly shown that Backus is a superb run blocker for several years.

by TuffLynx on Aug 14, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the stats are lying.

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by joshsun on Aug 14, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Running sideways...

doesn’t work for anybody except Barry Sanders. Mike Bell’s only problem was running the play called instead of running the play that developed. LB’s played well. Cedrick Benson is a load and one guy isn’t going to bring him down. I liked the way they swarmed to the ball carrier, so that was good practice for AP of the vikings.

by rproulx on Aug 13, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

one other high point that comes to mind

Brown looked like he’s been doing his homework this season! They must have told him to work more WR routes and he’s on them. The knock was always he was slow on the uptake. Something seems to have clicked.

As good of a camp as D Will has been having he also showed his same unreliable self. He better turn that shit around now.

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Brown was in beast mode

and I’m thinking he really helped his cause for making the final roster in the game today. Schwartz has a hard-on for versatility in general, and Brown did well both running the ball and lining up at WR. If he keeps playing like this and doesn’t have any serious fuck-ups for the rest of the preseason, you have to like his chances.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

You realize that brown does this every preseason, right? He plays against 3 stringers and dominates. I don’t mind the guy, but he really isn’t essential to our team whatsoever

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by Bighaircut on Aug 13, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

He definitely did not look this good the past couple preseasons

particularly when it comes to catching the ball, but I’m gonna wait to see how he does the rest of the preseason before I get too hot in the pants for the dude.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just made a (long) post over on BR on mickeyclaws article

I thought I’d post my observations here:
Some of my observations from the game:
- the OL still sucks at making shit happen in the run game
- Liney has the vanilla play calling down for the run game. I sure hope he doesn’t keep beating his (or the runners) head against the wall trying same failure over and over like last year
- the pass protection looks good even tho it was against a lackluster rush
- A Brown looks like he might finally get it! I can’t wait to see more of him running and receiving. If he could mirror Best plays like he was tonight he’ll be sticking around!
- D Will looked good a few times but I fear he’s gone past the point of no return and they wont trust him. It’s too early to be said as fact, but they aren’t going to put up with those dropsies from him for long.
- Ian Johnson looked better than Bell or Harrison. I didn’t see much creativity with the footwork of either.

- Wright must have been playing like velcro (they didn’t show much of him) because I don’t recall a single target of his guy. This is exciting!
- Houston was using better technique locating the ball by turning his head and reading the target. Not just on the int play but the rest of the time he showed much better awareness. I’m feeling good about these 2 starters!
- McDonald sure was making his case for a spot! I’m bummed we didn’t get to see Berry or the Phonz!
- the LB core didn’t dominate quite like I had expected and Benson was given too much room on Durants side.
- Carpenter looked good and I’m glad he’s here as depth. It’s early but I still maintain he can push for a starting spot and I believe he thinks so too!
- I underestimated Willie Young!! HELLO!
- There’s always a question mark about Wendling off of ST. He’s not the best for coverage reads but he’s a good tackler and locates the ball well! I didn’t see him as a starter but he’s looking more sure than I expected.
- oy vey Spa Vey! He’s arrived and I can’t wait to see him progress further! Our whole DB unit is looking sharp!
- Suh really does have bad intentions! I wonder if a QB ran over his dog with a car or something when he was young. I really can’t wait to see Fairley instill his own level of hell on the QBs. They are going to remember playing the Lions!!!

In short:
-I"M FRIGGIN STOKED ABOUT THIS TEAM!!!

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by Ee Oulo on Aug 12, 2011 11:42 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

People under estimate Willie

He is second behind Mario Williams in his college career stats. His knock coming out of college was inconsistancy. Only time will tell about Willie but he sure showed some skill tonite

by mochaj on Aug 13, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Post Ee Oulo

It’s refreshing to be so excited about our Lions again. This team is young and talented. Looking forward to an exciting season.

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by LionTarHeel on Aug 13, 2011 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always knew there was something different about Shaun Hill....

he’s a mother effing NINJA!

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by BBlades on Aug 13, 2011 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

No doubt

when I saw him bust out the flip, I immediately thought of this. Classic.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knew it.

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by Nate D. on Aug 13, 2011 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm understanding the role of preseason games

In a whole other light with our defensive line. It’s like unleashing a caged animal; they’ve had to hold back because they don’t want to injure our OL or QBs in practice so they’re basically always practicing at half-speed. These preseason games are the first chance they get to burn off some extra energy, so I’m sure personal fouls will be a regular fixture of preseason games for years to come.

Everyone was applauding Suh when he piledrived Dalton; someone in my section screamed “WELCOME TO THE NFL!” it was hilarious. Props to Dalton though, he held up under the hazing; he’s got the makings of a legit QB, book it. Dalton to Green is fixing to become a Stafford-CJ81 type connection in the making.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 12:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Also

C.Will remains the most underrated player on our team.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 12:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Amen to that

All he does is shore up everything. Love that guy.

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by Nate D. on Aug 13, 2011 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

It pisses me off

That when the talking heads hype up our dline it’s always “Suh, Avril, Vanden Bosch, and that guy that plays nose, he’s kinda okay too!”

It completely ignores the fact that a lot of Suh’s success last year came from CWill demanding respect and double teams himself too, it completely undermines how much of a solid presence he is on our line. All love to SLH and Fairley in the world, but if they are hungry for the first-string spot beside Suh, they’re going to have earn it through beating CWill on merit; and that’s going to be a task easier said than done.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Neither of those guys are going to beat out C. Will any time soon.

Its just not happening. If he cleans up those off sides, he is a lock.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

most underrated player here

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is a beast on the Line

He also has an uncanny ability to sniff out a screen. I think that is a very under rated part of his game.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is CWill on twitter?

We should tweet the hell outt of him, make sure he knows we see him.

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 5:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No idea

I am not a twit terer. haha

But if he does, our Twit army should hit him up and let him know his efforts are recognized and appreciated.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree'd

Get Profiler/Enforcer/Yps/Yooper. . .Round up all of our Twitter’ ers and have C-Will make 1 lousy visit to the POD so we can all let him know how much we appreciate him.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the record...

I totally understand LoJack not wanting to come back. On the thread that he took part in, there were at least a couple of people with posts like “OMG OMG is this really LoJack?!?! OMG I can’t believe it’s really you!!! This is, like, the best day of my life!!!”

I might be exaggerating a bit, but the point is that I can understand why the dude was scared off. It was a little bit much for him. I give the dude serious props for even taking the time to sign up and do a little Q and A session.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I stayed out of the conversation for just that reason.

He is a cool guy and his stopping in was exceptionally nice. I did not want to be a part of the inevitable “overwhelming”.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol @ "twit army"

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehe

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Motown

Lojack was here like 3 times that I am aware of. 1 time he showed up real late and basically no one was on that night. he popped in said is there anyone here and was gone.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 14, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Suh hit on Dalton wasn't as bad as it looked.

From the reply it looks like Suh does have him up high…he brings his head down and it makes contact with either the other defender or the offensive lineman (Avril or Gresham), which causes the helmet to pop off, and then Suh ragdolls him to the ground. Keep in mind, Suh had a hold of him as he was releasing the ball, so it’s not a late hit.

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by BBlades on Aug 13, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The score is indicative of.......

The Lions having good depth and a well rounded team. A lot of times you see a team make a comeback when the scrubs come in, this bodes well for us.

How about week 1, Lions at Bucs, whew that’s gonna be an interesting game and a great measuring stick, I like our chances.

The Silver Crush baby!!!

by SanDiegoMick on Aug 13, 2011 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

There was one string in the first quarter

where they just double team crushed Avril 3 times in a row and sent Benson straight through him. It was fairly effective.

by Trysdor on Aug 13, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's the one weakness in Avril's game

Hopefully we learn to compensate for that somehow

by WestsideLionsFan on Aug 13, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be willing to be LoJack would not have had that happen to him

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by Nate D. on Aug 13, 2011 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was also the fact that they effectively sealed Suh

that has been our weakness in the run game all last season…they can seal Suh and Avril’s main job is protecting the edge with that 9 technique, so he’s at a natural disadvantage…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking that's why we need Durant over there

and Tully will learn that’s our weakspot, so he can cheat that way at times…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

Suh sometimes has problems with the double team when he’s in a 1 tech. Much more effective as a 3 tech.

by Coach n um on Aug 13, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oustanding start!

Sure, there were some thing that the Lions can clean up, but overall they were pretty good. I expect the run defense to get better as the new guys get more practice with the defense and are more sure of their reads. I expect the running game to get better as Stafford starts airing it out a little ore and stretching out the defense. He only threw one longish pass, and that was the TD to Megatron. It is making me think the plan for the first series was to draw the defense in then burn them deep.

by TuffLynx on Aug 13, 2011 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I think that will almost always be the game plan

minus a big attempt early here and there (see the Jets game…) to get that underneath game going early…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sip, Sip, Pass

The Kool-Aid is good tonight.

Some initial thoughts.

Willie Young is a gamer, we wont miss the Turk. Looking forward to see him get some snaps this year against 1’s.

Aaron Brown looked better than anyone not named Jahvid Best. I think he makes the roster even if it means we carry 4 running backs. In all fairness though Bell and Harrison were only on the team for 3 days. Next week should be a more telling tale on them.

A lot of our linebackers look really good, I am thinking they will carry 7 on the roster.

I have to retract on Hanson. The guy did this to me last year too. I go into camp thinking he will Retire or be replaced, but then I see him in the games and I realize that his 80% is still better than most kickers at 100%. When he is actually 100% there are only equals in this league not betters. I seriously doubt there will be any changes in kicker or punter this year on the starting 53.

McDonald and Vasher looked good on the outside as 2’s. Can’t wait to see me some Erik Wright. You know he is going to want to play against his old team. Thank God we resigned Houston.

Call me crazy, but I seriously think that Spievey just might be better than Delmas when it is all said and done.

Derrick Williams made my heart sink as he dropped the ball twice in a row, then I felt relief when he redeemed himself with a big catch. Still though that boy needs to juggle some balls or something to work on his focus. If you ask me all his problems are in his head. I am really rooting for him to have a breakout year.

If the Lions cut Stefan Logan then he should make football porn, because he looked damn sexy on the field out there. (Just a joke, no homo, no way they cut this guy!)

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by Evilsmurf on Aug 13, 2011 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

LoL Did Wright play? I was so focused on the LB's that I think I totally missed him on the field :P

Oh well I have it DVR’ed I can go back and see how he was.

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by Evilsmurf on Aug 13, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow Smurf I was thinking the same thing about Spievey ....

I’m glad someone else is on the same brain wave as I . What pissed me off about Delmas was he was doing all that lip smacking with Jerome Simpson but couldn’t seem to help out in run support. Spievey was all over the field. I love Delmas but Speiveys progression from last year is just incredible.

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Defensive game ball -Amari Spievey

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by smelllyfingers on Aug 13, 2011 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only balls DWill is gonna be juggling

Are mine. In his mouth.

No homo.

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by Nate D. on Aug 13, 2011 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Negrodamus, hahaha how was work brother ?

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by smelllyfingers on Aug 13, 2011 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another hot ass day down at the salt mines.

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by Nate D. on Aug 13, 2011 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

His routes were exact...

He’s just got to get rid of the droppsies….

Funny how Stanton kept peppering him, though…..

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he catches what is thrown to him the rest of the preseason...

the coaches will write it off to early jitters. He is not out of a job yet, but he needs to stop dropping passes or he will be.

by TuffLynx on Aug 14, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing about Derrick.

He got good seperation during the game. Last year he couldn’t do that. If he can hang on to the ball, we might keep him.

by coolbreeze42 on Aug 13, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

he’s improved, I can tell. But you have to trust your WRs..and Williams seems to choke under pressure

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

you are crazy

or not. You know, unfortunately it doesn’t seem like Delmas is learning to take better angles, but there’s still time. But Spievey’s trajectory/ceiling is hard to predict right now. If he continues his path, you just may be correct. Or at least a very good compliment to Del…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

The guys on Cincyjungle are hilarious lol!

Their entire chat has gone something like,

Excitement
Dissapointment
Let’s Go Dalton
Maybe Not
For sure this time, Let’s go Dalton
Oh Shit
Dissapointment
Depression
To hell with Detroit

by fiendishdr.wu on Aug 13, 2011 1:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like a lot of game threads here over the past 2 or 3 years.

I feel their pain, I’m just glad for once to be on the other end of it.

by WestsideLionsFan on Aug 13, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

No doubt

Suh, Biz Markie, Kvb , Avril , C Will, SLH, Lo-Jack , Young blood , and Andre 3000 = Silver Crush -Get em boys

by smelllyfingers on Aug 13, 2011 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Brown is the Matt Millen of owners

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Aug 13, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Makes me feel bad for Bengals fans

at least with Millen, we knew that he would eventually get canned and end our suffering, even if it took way too long to happen. But if the dumbass owns your team, what can you do? Hope that he dies? Because that’s about the only way they’re gonna be able to get rid of him.

by motown313 on Aug 14, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you guys think about D Will? Same guy as before? Or new and improved this year?

He was getting open all over the place. I don’t remember him being that good at route running and getting open in the first place in years past. He had 2 horrendous and inexcusable drops, but followed it up with 2 great catches (one was called back by a holding penalty).

by WestsideLionsFan on Aug 13, 2011 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Is this the same guy that

went to PSU as the #1 High School Player? Rhetorical, I think anyway

by SanDiegoMick on Aug 13, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

1 thought

It doesn’t matter if you run the most perfect route ever run in the existence of football. If you can’t catch the football, it’s all for not.

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by BBlades on Aug 13, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not impressed

Stanton did him a service by coming back to him a couple of times after the drops…but we can not have these inexcusable drops when it counts. I believe he will be cut once Titus gets some game time.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very impressive

My only knock on the Lions was the over excited lack of discipline that they showed, even though it was a show of complete dominance (SUH). Delmas got lit up by Simpson after he was flapping his gums at him, and that is the kind of thing I want to see the coaching staff do away with. That is just embarrassing. I was happy with his play overall though, so I think it is a minor issue.

This game made me very happy. I am still grinning from ear to ear just thinking about it. I can’t wait to see more! GO LIONS!!

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
-Wayne Fontes

by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:54 AM EDT reply actions  

That Block on Delmas was all kinds of illegal.

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by j16941 on Aug 13, 2011 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe so

However, Delmas doesn’t need to paint a huge target on his back like he did with Simpson. Trash talking is great, as long as you can back it up and not get your dick knocked in the dirt. We can’t afford him getting injured again, especially in the preseason.

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm cool with it

This Lions D really is ushering a “bad boys” era. It’s about their swagger and getting in the oppoenents heads. When you play the Lions, you’re going to get hit, and hit hard. You better bring it! When players get to emotional and mad, they often make stupid decisions (thus the shitty hit on Del)…I say it’s a good strategy. THe more jazzed up are guys are, hopefully the better the will play. We too often forget how much of this game is a matter of confidence and momentum. Swagger goes a long way towards both…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose

But there is a fine line between confident, over confident, and just plain belligerent too.

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
-Wayne Fontes

by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry about it too much

These guys have had no football activity until less than a month ago. They’re ready to throw down, especially the guys on the defense.

Gotta let em burn through some of that built up aggression first.

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by Nate D. on Aug 13, 2011 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried

I just think stopping it early is the best move.

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

unfortunately I can guarentee we will see some of it in the regular season as well. Problem is probably Gun – wouldn’t be surprised if he’s egging them on! haha

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gunny is probably cutting them checks after the game from his personal account.

The guy is genuinely old school.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

illegal block

should have been a personal foul.

by x$pcents IV on Aug 14, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still watching the 4th quarter, but I think I can post my thoughts on the game.

- Stafford looked nice and crisp. He made good quick decisions and placed the ball in great places. Fills me with lots of hope. I’m also quite happy with our backup QBs. Hill showed toughness and solidarity, that TD run was good. Stanton showed some strength as well, I think those few starting games last year did him a whole lot of good. Zac’s TD was a nice one as well.

- The offensive line was about what I expected. Good in pass pro and pretty unimpressive in the run. I’m hoping that the first stringers do a better job.

- RBs didn’t have a lot of room. Best looked healthier, but I didn’t see a lot from either Harrison or Bell. Brown was good though making me think that he might be worth a roster spot as a RB/WR flex.

- Can’t say I saw anything massive from the receiving unit. Calvin was dominant in his short time, Nate helped out with a nice TD catch and the rest were ok. D-Will needs to be more consistent if he wants to make the team. Schef looked good as a safety valve.

- Mixed feelings about the defensive line at the moment. We obviously bring the pressure. Suh, CW, Avril, Young all got in the QB’s face. But our run defence was underwhelming. I was hoping we’d see more penetration, but that’s something we can work on. Also, Willie Young is a beast.

- I can’t say that the LB’s stood out for me. I’m gonna pay more attention to them in the next few games.

- Much more impressed with the secondary. Didn’t see many blown coverages and when they did make catches guys were making the tackle quick. Houston had a pick which was cool. McDonald also looked sharp. The guy who really impressed me was Spievey. He was in everything and looks to have a real nose for the football. He keeps playing like that and he may be the name on the back of my next Lions jersey.

Overall, very impressed with the performance, so much so that I can’t think of much to complain about. Too bad I couldn’t watch it live with you guys. Looking forward to next week.

by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 13, 2011 4:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Appreciate your thoughts HE

I completely agree with your thoughts on Spievey. That kid took a giant leap forward this off season. I had a feeling about that kid before we drafted him last season, and i was excited as hell when we picked him. He has a bright future in this league IMO. I too am hoping for improvement in the run defense, but for two weeks of practice, the team as a whole looked very impressive. Gotta love the way the first team offense marched right down the field on their first possesion. Happy thoughts.

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by LionTarHeel on Aug 13, 2011 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Spievey reminds me of Brian Dawkins in his prime. If he can bulk up -watch out

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by smelllyfingers on Aug 13, 2011 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I too was very impressed with Spievey yesterday

He has made great strides, and I now believe he will be the starter going forward.

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
-Wayne Fontes

by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spievey...

has really improved both his ability to read the play and his open field tackling ability. Although, I have to knock him on the one play where he went for the fill shot and just bounced off the guy. He was lucky Carpenter was there to keep the guy wrapped up.

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by BBlades on Aug 13, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great game

Everyone really chimed in on what I would’ve said, so I’ll just say this: My heart skipped a beat when the official used the word “process” in our favor. This might be our year.

by The Sledge on Aug 13, 2011 4:40 AM EDT reply actions  

That was hliarious...

But when the announcer was spewing that he did not have possession of the ball with his feet in bounds, I was up and screaming at the TV, “HE WAS COMPLETING THE PROCESS!!!!” I knew it was a TD before they even reviewed it!

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
-Wayne Fontes

by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Run Defense ....

 I know a lot of people are talking about how Benson looked like Adrian Petterson on our defensive line but after all its only the 1st preseason game and I’m confident the Silver Crush will get that fixed. What was scary was the run blocking from the offensive line . That is what stood out the most If you ask me .

Suh, Biz Markie, Kvb , Avril , C Will, SLH, Lo-Jack , Young blood , and Andre 3000 = Silver Crush -Get em boys

by smelllyfingers on Aug 13, 2011 6:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Please JIm Schwartz I beg of you.........

Cut down on the personal fouls.

I don’t want to be “Raiders East” and lose games due to stupid penalties

by boscokid on Aug 13, 2011 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

calm down we are just fine

This team is building an identity.Schwartz loves that his young team is having a F-U you are going to die mentality lol.

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by smelllyfingers on Aug 13, 2011 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry but that is wrong

The Bengals are not going to be in contention this year. Against real competitive teams, we can not afford to give up 30 yards on back to back plays because our guys are too nasty.

Think back, remember those same things being said in years past. Its ok, the team is just learning to be nasty and have a presence. Bla bla.

Against real competition, that will cost us games. These are real concerns stemming from situations that started two years ago and have continued last year and have already reared their ugly head in one game this season.

Schwartz needs to get this under control, quickly.

BTW, its not like the refs give us the benefit of the doubt on penalties anyhow. Adding gasoline to the fire is a bad idea.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

I agree with smelly, don’t read so much into a first exhibition game. They will be fine.

I will never pretend to know more than they do; except in Millen's case.

by Tipsterdad on Aug 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Accepting less because the game does not count is not how I work

These game will count sooner than later. 3 personal fouls in the first scrimmage is unacceptable.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatevs

the one against Coleman was a botched call (totally clean hit). Tully was just sticking up for Del and it should have been a penalty on them for that hit on Del…Suh…well, come on – what else would you expect!?!?

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like it or not

I am right. Against real competition. Penalties like that lose games. Suh’s was completely uncalled for and the tully one was too.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do not make statements like that often

In this instance, I am right.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

To me it was no different than the hit on Delhomme.

Now I expect the same type of performance for the season.

Personally, if that ends up being the case… I fear for the team that plays us first every preseason…lol

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you this time Josh

The senseless penalties can not happen against better competition…period.

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Period

How anyone is even debating this is beyond me.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't debating the action...

but I will debate it as ‘getting out of hand’.

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were stupid penalties man...

How is stupid not out of hand? Sorry, but I see no place for those types of penalties on a professional football team. If they are allowed to continue, under the guise of “setting the tone” or “they’re just that aggressive”, then it will just get MORE out of hand. As it stands, those penalties are unacceptable in my opinion and they need to be addressed and halted immediately. Take your aggression out…that is fine and likely warranted…but do it within the rules of the game, and don’t do stupid shit that hurts the whole team.

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
-Wayne Fontes

by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

and all the reports saying

That Schwartz was smirking while saying “we have to stop those penalties” makes me even more concerned. If he is not taking them serious now, he will down the road when they cost us an important game.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's no way Gun is taking it serious!

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do not see it as Gunny's job too

That is the head coaches decision to make.

The DC’s job is to goad these guys into as much evil as possible.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe it will be addressed this week during practice

If it continues, then there could be something to worry about. However, I don’t remember Suh ripping off any helmets after Delhomme’s last year.

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

One is too many

two is sloppy and three, ref mistake or not, is out of hand.

You take out those two, completely avoidable personal fouls, you have one ref mistake. That is acceptable.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

me neither

preseason=different than regular…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just something to work on...

So why not now, during the preseason, when the wins and losses don’t count?

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not get it out of your system now...

when the wins and losses don’t count?

lol

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

But I think it should definitely be discouraged…that is all I am saying.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like it was...

Ref- “That kid Suh is fun to watch”

Schwartz- “I’ll make sure he doesn’t kill anyone”

Ref- “hehehehehehehe”

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excuses

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not making excuses, Im blaming

I thought #90 played like his mind was in Monaco and not Detroit

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm fine with SUH's penalty . . I really am.

We have not had that kind of mentallity on this team in all of my lifetime and it’s refreshing to see out of our Defense. Bring that “fear of god” attitude too every game and see how teams will play soft against us.

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by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly agree we need to beat some people up

in order to get rid of the stink of all those bad tackling Lions teams. I just would have felt a lot more comfortable if Suh had stacked up the previous two running plays, instead of getting blown 5 yards off the ball and then committing the pf. Just looked kinda bad

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

true bro

But i’ve already watched that game 2 times and saw a lot of positive things from 1 week of practice. mostly the fact we just didn’t miss tackles, and even in 1 on 1 open field plays we were making the tackles, had some good penetration from our DT’s and DE’s. With more time together the unit will be 1 bad as group.

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by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohh man, Im over the moon

Ive just got my fell eye on #90 because I didnt like Suhs around the world adventures. I wanted a Zen Suh, watching film 24/7 while inhaling the burnt offerings of sacked QBs. So. he’s gonna hear it from me when he gets his million dollar ass blown up

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

50 million dollar ass

and yes, I feel the same way. His run defense was his weakest part of his game last year and it does not look like that has changed yet.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

I’ve been hoping for that improvement. Not sure we’ll see it for a while though. He is smaller than he was last year…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course smaller is relative but

is that smaller muscle or body fat. I do not remember him having much if any body fat last year. His world wide “Suh promotional fest” has me worried that it is muscle loss more than fat loss.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The report I saw that just made me facepalm

was the one, and I paraphrase “Was up partying until 4:30, slept a half an hour and then went and did my workout on the beach” That was all I could think about when Benson and that guard just steamrolled his ass on that first 8 yard run to the A gap on their second series

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

uggg

well, he still has a lot to learn if he is going to be next level elite.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's great to hear

that Brown and Speivey have stepped up. Amari could play a key role this year. A little disappointing to hear about the run blocking and run defense. It’s early, though!

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by studmo on Aug 13, 2011 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

At least Hilliard played well enough that Stafford didn't get killed.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

willy young

played like a beast all night, i was impressed with his motor, i see big things for him on this team.

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by yooperlionfan on Aug 13, 2011 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

He was awesome

He just solidified his 53 man spot in my opinion.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Brown did as well.

But I’m in the minority on this topic. Speed is speed you can’t teach speed and he has it. Cut Morris save the money.

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by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aaron Brown

He impressed me last night too. He was clearly better than Harrison, Bell, or Johnson. You can’t coach speed, and he has it. If he continues like he did yesterday, I see him as our 3rd RB.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rev

I just know I’ve been a fan of Brown since his rookie year when he took that swing pass to the house. He has skills but just never gets to show them because he isn’t a top draft pick. In the right situation he could very well be our Darren Sproles just taller.

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by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to see if Harrison or Bell is going to step up

It could become an interesting battle.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think with that one handed behind the back hip catch

Harrison got the edge last night

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a good catch

But that was all he showed…he couldn’t run anywhere, and he looked slow. I just want to see the guy that ran for 286 in one game, on every down.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he did have a couple of nice bounces to the outside

that while they didnt go anywhere at least showed he had situational awareness. I really didnt see much from either. Its gonna be hard without some reps behind the first team o line to get a good feel for either one

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we could see that in the near future

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts on DWills

As bad as he looked at times, he looked just as good. But overall he still looked better than the other depth wide outs like Stovall, Davis, and Barnes

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by JCruize on Aug 13, 2011 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I really don't know how you can that?

I wouldn’t trust DW to carry a vase across the road.

If he does happen to stick, it would be as a very shakey #5 receiver. IMO he brings nothing to the table.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And I respect your opinion.

I truly just can’t see it.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

All I am saying is that of the WR trying to make the team

he look better than the others. Still would not want him on the field to many times.

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by JCruize on Aug 13, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think DW is on the team until TY starts playing.

Does Stovall return punts and kickoffs? If so that seals DW’s stay with the Lions.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 11:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Stovall is not a speed guy

just a tall target that can not get seperation. He has had 3 kick returns in his career, but fumble one away. I think the Lions go with 5 WR on their final roster. Unless Ballard can do something other than chicken fight with the DB on running plays, I can see DW being that 5th guy as long as the coaches keep singing his praises in practices

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by JCruize on Aug 13, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then time will tell, and for the moment I'll label myself a DW hater.

Dropping dead sure passes in the preseason is one thing and in the scope of things, not critical. During the season with that drop the difference between 7 or not that’s another story.

The reason I’m harping on this is #5 can’t just be a wasted roster spot again and if you can’t trust him during the regular season and he’s not seeing the field even on ST’s, then why bother keep him. It’s been 2+ years of the same stuff now without any real promise becoming serviceable.

There was so many bright spots his gaffs stick out that much worse.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 12:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He has the preseason

and I have just about Zero faith in him making the cut.

Drops like those yesterday, they kill drives during the regular season against real competition.

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+1

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When your two drops are the only plays the coach mentions

during the halftime interview, you might as well start packing. We dont need to even think about tolerating stupid mental mistakes anymore

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a very good way of putting it YJ.

We are like so past the dumb shoot ourselves in the foot style of football that we used to play, that dead ass drops now stand out instead of being the norm.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 4:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fo Sho

i total took note of Schwartz’s comment. DWill is done in D town. I’d rather have Stoval. I personally think we need another big WR and he fits the bill

by mochaj on Aug 13, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree JC

BUT he has to catch the ball every time….not just in practice and 2 out of 5 in the game. He is supposed to be a professional receiver, and those drops will cost us in big games. I look forward to seeing Titus Young get some action.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's got an ankle...

sorry couldn’t resist

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by BBlades on Aug 13, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

Thankfully, catching is far from the only thing he offers the team.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pettigrew

Is a completely different story…but I think he is far more sure handed than Williams.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

for sure

Pett doesn’t sttraight drop balls. He just has a hard time securing them right away at times and gets hit hard right after the ball gets there…thus jarring them loose.

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are going to see that a few times this year.

I felt sorry for the Bengals last night, and yet we are going to see that more this year. All the teams that changed QB’s/OC’s/HC’s, that’s the kind of play we are going to see from these teams, sloppy! All too many times have we seen that kind of play out of our Lions in the past.

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by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Where is our Mr. "devil's advocate" Matthew?

Is he banned again?

Hey, it is easy for me to be patient; it is lots of fun watching this team grow. They will make mistakes and might not be as successful as we hoped but then again they might, depends on injuries. Like I have been saying all along, next year is the year they will explode.

Just think, as much depth as they have now, we have one more college and FA draft to fill holes. That is when I expect them to upgrade the O-line pretty drastically. I LOVE a good defense and this one is exciting!

Sip the kool-aid slowly and enjoy this season. it will be a fun one. :)

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by Tipsterdad on Aug 13, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Forgot to mention...

it is all about having fun for them, and you can tell they are having a blast!

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by Tipsterdad on Aug 13, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's true

hasn’t been mentioned. But this team loves to have a good time, and it was very good to see.

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

We forget that the young ones are just kids really, you are right it is good to see.

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by Tipsterdad on Aug 13, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

couple questions because i was unable to watch

Did ballard play? I was pretty excited to see what he could do against some real competition.
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by Bighaircut on Aug 13, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Ballard was invisible to me.

Willie did what he had to do. He kept contain (Avril, that is how you do it) on one play and completely blew it up. There were more I am sure but I was watching the LBs and CB by then.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carpenter had a hell of a game.

So did Mcdonald.

Tulloch and Levy should be ashamed of themselves in run support.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was happy with Carp too

He looks like he is more of a game than I had thought. Tully and Levy were, unimpressive.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most definitely

Carpenter surprised the shit out of me. He damn near looked like the best LB on the team, which is sad considering he’s a backup. Still, it’s good to know that we’ve got quality depth at the position.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant to say

He looks like he is more of a gamer than I had thought.

One of those players that always looks better playing a real game than in practice, kind of thing.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

good thing is

 we know for the most part what we have in Levy. The worst he can be is how he played last year while injured. I’m not worried in the least. I don’t see how Tully is suddenly going to stop making tackles, so to worry about him, is way premature as well

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ashamed

for a total of 4-5 plays? That’s a bit crazy language if you ask me. I mean, it was Suh and Avril getting totally sealed off allowing big holes as well…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ballard Played

From what I could see, just in the fourth quarter. He had a nice block on one of Ian Johnson’s runs. I was surprised they played Nate Hughes as much and didn’t play Ballard more

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by Latif Masud on Aug 13, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

well they said Ballard was at the bottom of the depth chart

Hughes has been getting more reps in camp…not sure why EVERYONE was surprised…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Conspiracy theory

Maybe they’re underselling him and keeping minimal tape so they have a better shot of practice squadding him?

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That should tell you something about the coaches opinion on him

I’ve had a very strong feeling that Ballard is nowhere near as good as POD’ers have hyped him up to be, and Schwartz’s decision to give him next to no playing time only reinforces that in my mind.

The big guy we should be keeping an eye on is Stovall, though I was very disappointed to see only one pass attempt his way the whole game. Stanton seemed so determined on redeeming Williams that he all but forgot that Stovall was on the field.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not so sure it is "hype" as much as it is seeing potiental for the team to be great

Stovel has never been a reciever to creat space and he showed that last night. He doesn’t play big even though he is about the same size as Ballard. The reason i like Ballard is situationally in the red zone and jump ball situations which in the NFL that can win you games. Stovel has yet to prove he can excel in those situations.. much less get 1 foot of seperation from his man…. that was his issue in Tampa

by Shankdiddy on Aug 13, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ballard played "chicken fight" on that "block"

He didn’t really have a great block…he just got in the way and clawed at the defender…which allowed Aaron Brown to use his speed to turn the corner.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes all it takes to be a great block is to be in the way

That was one of those instances. I still have nightmares of WRs acting like bull fighters while “attempting” to block. At least the kid got in the way.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

wonder if CJ has improved in that area

now that he’s stronger, hopefully he’s also working on technique. He, more than anyone has the best chance to step up and be the best WR in the game…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The go route of Randy Moss, the vicious blocks of Hines Ward, the jumping ability of Lynn Swann. etc…

We got a winner.

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Don't forget

the professionalism and classiness of Barry Sanders. In a day and age where a good portion of elite WR’s act like divas, we should be glad that ours isn’t a drama queen.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

we should be glad that ours isn’t a drama queen.

Can not be said enough

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Ballard was in

they ran mostly. He threw some good blocks though. Like Sean says don’t eat up all the hype just yet but i can’t help myself i want to see a diamond in the rough. So far no 2011 UDFA blew me away(all though there is 3 more preseason games to go. Heres to Ballard cheers

by mochaj on Aug 13, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

My idea for the season:

Forget the running game. Were gonna win through a style similar to the colts and packers. Just air out and with our defense no one will be able to keep up. That’s how the packers won and that’s how we are gonna win.

by D.A. on Aug 13, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Support for this theory:

Last year we were ranked 23th in the rushing game. But the packers were ranked 24th, the saints were ranked 28th, and the colts were ranked 29th. These are the teams that I think we should emulate. Forget pounding the rock (ask marinelli how that worked out).

by D.A. on Aug 13, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree to an extent

However, i think it is very important for the Lions to establish a run game this season. If they can’t get it going on the ground, then when we play teams with upper echelon pass defenses, we will be one dimensional.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear you

and it is encouraging. BUt guess what those teams did in the offseason? Ingram & Carter + Grant is back healthy…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have Best back healthy

So we’re right there on board with those other teams

by WestsideLionsFan on Aug 13, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No has Sproles for thier version of Best (not as good obviously)

and Ingram for our LeShoure…err now it will be MoMo…. Indy has Brown and now Carter… we still lack that power punch…

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by rames on Aug 14, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Need to have some what of a run game

when we go up by 20 pts in the 1st half we need to burn the clock

by mochaj on Aug 13, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess it will equal 12 screens per game...

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by rames on Aug 14, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of passed out towards the end of the third quarter..

How did Ian Johnson look? I was overall unimpressed with Bell and Harrison, but will give them the benefit of the doubt because they just got to Detroit.

I would however like to see Brown take some snaps with the first team, just to see what he can actually do.

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by BBlades on Aug 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

He looked slowish, but strong

Line got very little push for him, so it was somewhat hard to tell. He looks like a post 3rd game cut, to me.

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, that sucks.

They know what Best can do. I’d like to see them let these other guys get snaps with the first team Oline. See if there’s anything there.

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by BBlades on Aug 13, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Johnson's case, I don't think it will matter either way.

If we do decide to keep a fourth HB, you’ve got to think it’ll be Brown. Even Bell seems to have a better shot at making the team, due to his experience if nothing else.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd keep Brown also

God forbid Best get hurt, Brown can fill in. He relatively has the same skill sets just not as gifted as Best. Hence no thining of the play book

by mochaj on Aug 13, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

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by rames on Aug 14, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson, Bell, and Harrison

All of them were clearly overshadowed by Aaron Brown. In my opinion, all of their performances were rather dull.

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

well mayhew needs to use some magic and get some o-line talent

for a few years now the run blockings been terrible and Lions cant run the ball for there life have to throw screens n junk

by Daniel Simonelli on Aug 13, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Its nice we're not talking poor CB play...

A month ago that was a serious concern.

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by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Aug 13, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

True.

Our CB’s played well, but a lot of that had to do with our D-Line. Houston needs to send Suh a fruit basket for giving him that INT.

Sadly, Cleveland has a weak passing game as well, so they won’t really get tested against them either. Who’s our next preseason opponent after Cleveland?

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patriots on national television

I expect both teams to take it very seriously (for an exhibition game.)

by Mavyrk on Aug 13, 2011 2:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yes, I agree

should be the best indicator/test of the preseason. Lions will be coming hard for beating them better than any other team did last year…

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell yes

I don’t doubt that our boys are still stinging from the ass whupping we received last year at their hands… I would be surprised if our starters don’t play like it’s a regular season game. Should be a hell of a game.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw our starters playing like it was a regular season game yesterday!

It was fun to watch. These guys like playing football.

The third scrimmage game is the one where the starters usually play a half right?

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

not for all of us

I know myself and a VERY few others kept saying we were good at CB, even before we picked up Wright I thought we were good. I’ve been saying all we needed was to resign Houston and we were set in the backfield. Hell I have been sounding like a broken record with the Speivie will be fine he came on at the end of last season and it takes time for a CB to transition to Safety comments. At Cb we had good play last year and that was with the constant rotation at the 1 spot, all we had to do was stay healthy and we were going to be good.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not bad for a dime CB thou

Think about it he will be either 5th or 6th CB on this roster.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really

you have to take coverage into account. Some of those short routes he allowed catches on- he was in an off-zone or off-man alignment. He did fine.

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am still concerned with our LB's

But what can you expect with less than 2 weeks of practice? I was happy to see Durrant all over the place, and let me throw this at you guys. . . How many open field tackles did you all see last night? This was the 1 thing that kept sticking out to me is we just didn’t miss any tackles.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Next week against the Browns

Is going to be the test against our front 7 on Defense. The Bengals are a good running team with Benson, regardless of what some of the people here think and we did pretty good against them. the Browns on the other hand with Peyton Hillis is going to be a real test. And about the aggressive play out of Suh and Preditor, I think you guys are missing some things there. I feel that Gunny is promoting that kind of play because Defense is about attitude and that is exactly what them 2 were doing last night playing with attitude. Look at Pittsburgh and all the other dominant D’s in the league what is the common theme with them teams? Attitude! And if we have to take a few 15 yard penalties for that I am fine with that, it’s the 5 yard offsides penalties that drive me nutz and we didn’t see any of them with the first stringers our there.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I couldnt care less about first half PFs

but Suh getting his ass manhandled and steamrolled was disconcerting.

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see the size of those O-lineman

that were double teaming him? he had over 700lbs pushing him, I don’t care who you are that’s a lot of weight. Tulloch and Durant and Levy with a smidge of Delmas need to get their asses in gear and get up to the line on those running plays.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOLOL, they were some great fat bastards, werent they?

Still, he’s gonna see it forever. He’s got to learn to slip them or at the least stand them up

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give Corey Suhs money for that game

Corey was just awesome. I thought Calloway and Pitcock played real well too

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corey Williams is the real deal

And with Suh commanding double teams on every play, I look for C-Will to have a huge season.

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

And SLH . . .

So i have a man crush, so what.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 13, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sammie was good too

I was very impressed with our depth in all areas. Brandon McDonald played very well. Coleman played well. Willie Young was great. Hill and Stanton were great. It was a great game.

The only thing I have to say is that it IS preseason, and it WAS the Bengals. I look forward to seeing a better test.

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
-Wayne Fontes

by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brandon McDonald played very well

hmmm…. “very well”… might be a bit much.

He allowed the entire 2nd have offense of the bengals…lol (a bit of sarcasm and truth)

by CLF on Aug 13, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he did great considering the amount of targets thrown at him

He didn’t give up anything big, and he made some good plays.

If one of these guys can't take us to the promised land, maybe we should shop for one. You can have the greatest running back of all time, but if you don't have a consistent quarterback, you don't win.
-Wayne Fontes

by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

and, if memory serves.

He allowed almost no YAC.

In fact, I think the entire team minimized YAC effectively. That was a positive result of the game.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

SLH is developing into that run stuffing mass of meat

that every team needs. I am really liking how his game has come along. Just when you have him pegged as a run stuffer the other team single blocks him and he bull dozers the poor bastard lined across from him.

He has a chance to be something special on this line.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

saw poor Sammie just eating a triple team one play

he was standing them up but man, he was getting mauled lol

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that play too

And I remember thinking, he anchored well and held his own very nicely considering.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

The damnable thing about it is how in the hell do we get Sammie reps when Corey is playing like the Beast about to eat Green Bay?

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cut down Suh's reps

He needs the rest. If we can get his snaps down in the 600 total for the season range, i would be thrilled.

He played something like 900 snaps last season? That is insane and is not sustainable.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

SUH's reps will be cut down this year

And thats for 1 reason and 1 reason only. Our defense will not be on the field a much as it was last year. This D is going to get a lot of short drives against them this year. Maybe not 100 3 and outs but I can’t see how teams are going to sustain drives against us this year.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 14, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree

we are going to have a scary good rotation at tackle.

I will never pretend to know more than they do; except in Millen's case.

by Tipsterdad on Aug 13, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calloway really impressed me

very much. Can’t believe our DT depth. It’s nuts!

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by rames on Aug 13, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

see replay of Houston's pick

Suh slipped right by untouched to get up in Dalton’s face.

by x$pcents IV on Aug 14, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't worry

once Cincy loses the ability to throw, it is over for the running game. Guys like Spievey and Delmas move up into the box and cut right through those fat guys like butter. Durant also has a knack for slipping through from what I am told.

by x$pcents IV on Aug 14, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

but i saw Suh go right around them without a stunt on that pick by Houston. just a quick move inside the guard and he was right up in Dalton’s face. i don’t think they got a finger on him. as tough as those fat fucks are going to be to stifle in run blocking, they are going to struggle dealing with quick pass rushers.

Suh and CW can beat you in so many ways.

by x$pcents IV on Aug 14, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

This has to be sarcasm saturday

‘cause if ya’ll are serious about your disappointments in the game, I am gettin’ ya’ll some help fast…..

I will never pretend to know more than they do; except in Millen's case.

by Tipsterdad on Aug 13, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Its not like that at all

Everybodys happy…but it would be pretty self serving to just tell each other how great we are. That was a really bad, poorly organized and demoralized Bengal team we beat.

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes that is true, like many of the lions teams I have watched in the past. You had to feel for them, they were completely out matched.

I will never pretend to know more than they do; except in Millen's case.

by Tipsterdad on Aug 13, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus man

This place is so full of passionate optimism, I honestly believe if it is not balanced a little with some very real areas of needed improvement. Some of these guys might just off themselves after a regular season loss.

After Stafford went down last season, it was like a wake around here.

Our team looked sharp in the passing game, the defense looked improved, the line pass blocked extremely well, the D line applied above average pressure with what seemed like almost no blitz help, all three QBs looked to be sharp and had their timing with the WRs down. For the first game of the scrimmage season, I am impressed.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a big optimist

But one of the great things about a place like this is talking and discussing where we can improve.

by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 14, 2011 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man, my heart goes out to their fans

Nobody should have to go through what we did (Ok the Bears)

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hehe

Good one….

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by Tipsterdad on Aug 13, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

lucky for you then

I am predicting a rather large drop off for the Bears this season.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too, I just don't see how they're going to replicate last year

That D just keeps aging, they traded their best receiving option and cut a key piece of the OL and long time team leader in Kreutz. They have all the signs of a team that’s going to fall flat on its face.

by WestsideLionsFan on Aug 13, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

There is a snowballs chance in hell they go all season without any real injuries again this year like they did last year.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gentleman and I'm sure a lady or two....let me say this....

This thread was a pleasure to read and is what makes this site the best Lion site on the net.

We all don’t exactly agree, the game was broken down very well. For the most part everyone pick out the good and bad and injected their opinions all without attacks on each other.

Very good stuff. Reread some of these posts….Excellent thought provoking writing.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 6:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Watch it change if we lose 2-3 in a row...lol

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by KDawg on Aug 13, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

a couple of losses in a row and we all tend to devolve into incoherent cavemen clashing in as primitive an internet shouting match as can be had..

Let’s hope we put up a lot of wins this year so we don’t have to go through that again.

by motown313 on Aug 13, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me club smash?

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im watching the GB/Cle game right now

and the Brownies arent the pathetic mess the Bengals are. The first team played the Pack hard and has the lead. Just stopped em again. 14-10 Brownies

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

they are playing pretty well.

I have been impressed so far.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bears are strugging with the Bills too

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

whaddya think about the bills new uni's? lotta white lol

Hows the buzz around Chicago? They must have been real unhappy with last might game

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

It feels eirly like last season. Some fans think they will go 4-12 others think 12-4. I feel like they are in the 7-9 win range.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

eerily even

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

your getting the bears game locally, I assume

The fans do anything different when Cutler went in?

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, watching a feed online

I do not have a TV at the store and I do never watch one at home anymore. I do not miss all the damn commercials.

Its been a weird day. Rain came in mid day with hail. The whole street is dead. No one anywhere.

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry bro :(

We got rain here today too…wettest summer Ive seen here in a long, long time

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

friggin lucky ass Pack

I just hate how the ball bounces their way so often

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

They say you gotta be good to get the lucky bounces.

Those people that say that, can suck it!

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by joshsun on Aug 13, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bears O line looking mighty sad :)

Cutler just had that bottom lip sticking straight out LOL. Pouty boy was not happy

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brownies just giving the Pack, hell

Sack, fumble to the house for the Browns, 24-17..cmon Brownies!

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Schefter was kissing the Pack’s ass on Twitter, but he’s clammed up for a while now. His boys couldn’t possibly be losing?

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 9:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Now Mort is kissing Cam's ass...

“mortreport: RT freelemur: "mortreport: Newton’s pass to Olsen went for 30 yards, all in the air" 30 yards?! Wow! >> Nice strong throw in rain”
http://twitter.com/mortreport/status/102550818741428225

Wow….30 yards all in the air….lol…Stafford does that lefthanded.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 9:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

did you see jimmys 1st series?

Threw one right to the giant backer for a clean pick 6

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 13, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just the tweet....

He’s another overrated ESPN poster child.

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by delusional on Aug 13, 2011 10:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Colt looks like he belongs in the NFL

Browns fans have to be stoked on what their team is about to become. Colt may make my fantasy football squad my back up of course

by mochaj on Aug 14, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love bringing this up again. . .

But the Pack F’ed up SO BAD when they let go of Jenkins in the middle of that D. . Didn’t they realize how good he was for them last year? GB’s loss is Philly’s gain. I wonder why B.J. Ragi wasn’t in there.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 14, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

What surprised me

was that the Broncos didn’t make a play for Jenkins. I’m baffled as why they didn’t. B.J. probably had a tummy ache from all of the cheese? Jenkins is a beast and i hope he tears it up in Philly

by mochaj on Aug 14, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

We dont play philly this year do we?

I mean in the regular season that is. . .

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 14, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

naw, wont see them for another couple years

unless we meet them in the playoffs

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 14, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

They’ll lose in the first round of the playoffs again, we’ll have a first round bye; we’ll never see them.

by Mavyrk on Aug 14, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

In that case

Yes, let Jenkins be a beast all year!

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 14, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am, yes.

About to go to bed so I have time to draft live. I’d hate to have the machine autopick for me.

by Mavyrk on Aug 14, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

How valuable are the defensive players

I’ve never been in a yardage league that you draft specific players on the D side of the ball. Are they as valuable as say A second RB or 3rd WR?

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 14, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

not really

but if they get picks for TDs,fumble recoveries etcc in one game it can add up but doesnt happen too often. you will know when to start taking them when you see a run on the guys. Ive never been in a 20 team league so it will be interesting

by mochaj on Aug 14, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am

I hope people dont take their sweet time. 20 teams 17 rounds i think.

by mochaj on Aug 14, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

dont you guys feel conflicted

when you have to root against the Lions? Or perhaps more properly, rooting for guys to do well against us?

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 14, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

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