Ok people. We have two games tonight. We have New England vs Tampa Bay and Philly and Pitt tonight. As these are preseason/exhibition/scrimmage games they have less fun written over them but a game thread is always fun even when the other teams are the evils of the NFL land scape. (nah, they are just not the Cool Lions!)

So, here is a place to talk out the game we are watching tonight, what we see and how we see things. Long and short of it. We will have as many differing opinion as posters! Damn I love football. There are no actual lines for the games but what the heck, I will toss out some and see how it ends up. Yes, I realize how sick it sounds to put lines on a preseason game. I don't care! lol

NE(-4) at TB.

O/U 52

Philly at Pitt(-3)

O/U 43

Lets hear your predictions, if you want call the lines out. Call me a fool. Whatever!