Detroit Lions breaking down positions and concerns
Broken down by position I just want to share my thoughts of each position. Whats great about them and what my concerns are. See if I am alone in any of them or maybe I am more correct than even you had hoped. This is based all on my opinions no stats just what I have seen with my own eyes.
QB - Stafford is the real deal and every tool a franchise QB needs he has showin. He needs to stay healty this year or I am afraid many people will write him off and be ready to move on. Other than Matts bum shoulder the last 2 years the position itself is deep. Hill is a prototype game manager and even Drew Stanton proved he can win a game when called upon. Without Matt though this team can only go so far. I belive in the guy and am still proud that he is our QB. We need him healthy and I think everyone has that as there #1 concern moving forward.
WR- Might be one of our strongest positions. Calvin must stay healthy he hasn't missed alot of time but he does need to play every game. The offense depends on him to perform. Nates fumble problems at times last year got to be irriating at times and costly at other. Otherwise he showed toughness and attitude something your born with. Titus is a you burner who will take the top off the defense I am positive of that. WR isn't a postion easy to learn and I expect him to struggle at times. We need him to play well as a rooke though the depth behind isn't very impressive. Taking the top off a defense means you better be good with the deep ball. The Bosie State program hasn't been a powerhouse of pro factory so hopefully his adjustment won't be to difficult. He will struggle at times though.
TE- The Pettibeast is a monster and a playmaker. I have no question he will be one of the tope tight ends in the NFL. He had good stats last year but for me it isn't that he drops the ball at times. It's when Brandon needs to become more reliable in the red zone and conversion downs when it really matters. Scheffler is good but I think his entire game could afford to step up a little. Heller played very little through no fault of his own but he should get more snaps. He rocked it against the Packers in Detroit.
OL - Everyone on TV says we need a tackle we need to protect Stafford. Well they are half right we do need to protect Stafford. With a run game who is run blocking on the inside ? One of my biggest hopes this year was we would get a true bulldozer at right gaurd. That did not happen if we can't improve are run blocking game the D lines will go all out. Number 9 will be slammed again and again. The backs can't be expected to make there own holes. Jerome Felton is no help either. We need a FB that can help clear the running lanes not run for the short yards. We have that guy now in Leshoure.
RB- Love this position but Best needs to stay healthy and play the entire season like he did the first half of last year. Break the big plays and help in the passing game. Leshoure has alot on his shoulders this year. He is the only true powerback we have and with the lack of run blocking he might have his work cut out for him. He could have a fantastic rookie year or he and Best could have a long season ahead. All depends on the O line. Maurice and Brown make solid depth I like them both.
DL - No concerns here get Cliff a new contract and lets unleash the beast. The Lions true identity is kill the QB. Questions have been asked about Fairley but I say give him a chance. No concerns unless he gives me one.
LB - Much improved from last year. Looks like Zack might be gone as I am typing this he sent out a tweet that would suggest he is suffering from pain in his neck. ( Sure Sean is on it) Durant, Tulloch and Levy 3 very good starters. The depth isn't to bad either with Palmer and Houge. Carpenter could return yet I hope. I am positive the run defense will be awesome this season. Tulloch and Durant don't have a great record of pass defense though. That concerns me levy is the only LB I trust in coverage right now. I also like Caleb to make the roster this year.
DB - Safteys are fine I like Delmas, Phillips, Coleman and Spivey as the final depth chart there. Corners well lets just say we have assembled the greatest list of #2 corners in the NFL. I still don't see that big #1 guy we needed. Cromartie, Joseph any of these guys would have soothed my concerns. Berry is showing promise but I am not ready to hand him the job just yet. Phonz makes a stellar nickle and #2. Houston makes a good #2 but dosen'y have the eye for the ball. Wright is good but again a slightly above average #2. We still need that top flight or Elite corner.
ST - Hanson and Rayner fixes to make a good battle legend vs young gun in camp. Who ever wins the job deserves it. Logan is a lights out return man and I like the other possibiltys behind him. Young and Phonz might be able to back him up in the return game. Nick Harris days might be numbered if the new kid shows anything.
**UPDATE** Sadly the truth is Zack will not be a Lion any longer.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Pride of Detroit or its writers. FanPosts are valued expressions of opinion by passionate and knowledgeable fans.
16 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
A couple notes
Just wondering, as your posts are always concise and maybe I just mis-understand your statement about DBs. I personally dont like to lump safeties and corner backs together, but it works in this context.
When you said this?
DB – Safteys are fine I like Delmas, Phillips, Coleman and Spivey as the final depth chart there.
I read that as in order of the depth chart. Do you think Phillips will start and Coleman will be a backup, he will also bypass Spivey who I thought was playing pretty well at safety at the end of the year?
Also when you said.
We need a FB that can help clear the running lanes not get the short yards. We have that guy now in Leshoure.
Are you expecting Leshoure to start at FB in a two-back set? That seems to be a whole lot of pressure to put on a rookie HB.
No that is not the starting order of safteys just the guys I like to see as the 4 we use.
I had to read that I missed something on Leshoure. We need a FB that can clear holes not be a power runner. That was my bad.
Thank you Zack Follett for all your hard work.Pain Train Forever
PCP 4 LIFE
by The Profiler on Aug 2, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah ok
Thanks, I do agree with both points, I just interpreted them incorrectly.
We need a FB that can help clear the running lanes not run for the short yards. We have that guy now in Leshoure.
Thank you Zack Follett for all your hard work.Pain Train Forever
PCP 4 LIFE
by The Profiler on Aug 2, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
very much agree
LeShoure could be deadly with a true lead FB. Looks like Clapp is trying to assume that role, wonder if he can do it???
The Dis-Assembly Line - The unofficial, official name for the next best D-line in football.
Did you see Clapp's block in the post practice video?
Laid the guy out. He is big.
Thought he was an OL when I saw him at practice
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
I literally lol at
Corners well lets just say we have assembled the greatest list of #2 corners in the NFL.
great line, and sooo true (well, unless our line mixed with a renewed focus from Eric Wright vaults him back up into the top 10 CBs of the league…)
The Dis-Assembly Line - The unofficial, official name for the next best D-line in football.
At this stage I agree as well
Like you I am hoping that some of these guys step up their game to make the competition for the CB1 spot legit.
I know it's wishful thinking
but maybe, just maybe we’ll get our truly mauler at RG if Peterman plays like he did in 09…
now my worry is that even if Gosder is healthy enough to start and be effective, will he be able to put all of his power on those knees to drive block like he’s truly capable of???
The Dis-Assembly Line - The unofficial, official name for the next best D-line in football.
Yeah I'm not sure how Gosdered recovery is going
But thats a realistic concern it might take another year before he is fully back to normal. I hope he’s ready to go.
Thank you Zack Follett for all your hard work.Pain Train Forever
PCP 4 LIFE
by The Profiler on Aug 3, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
great hopes
Of all the areas outlined in this good post I think the OL breakdown was lacking. It also jumps out at me as the biggest area of question and concern. I knooooooow I’m not alone in thinking this!’
Let’s hope Peterman can return somewhat to 09 form even. At the least let’s hope he’s past the ‘10 form… Hearing that Lionbreath got some reps at RG was interesting. Sure he doesn’t have the technique but it would be nice if he could get some NFL form there if he’s going to stick around. I think we all can agree the Midget needs to step up his game. I don’t care if he needs platform cleats or what but something has to change!
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
I am completely with your here
Now that we signed some decent FA’s the elephant in the room is the OL. Seems like most people have avoided talking about it (I don’t blame them, let’s be optimistic about our new players for a few days). However, along the O line there are a lot of question marks.
LT – Backus had a solid season last year, but he is aging and there are concerns his game could start to fall off. I, like most people here, believe that his better play last season was because he finally had a good LG next to him in Rob Sims, but it could just have been an anomaly. Also, he currently has an injured pectoral muscle which raises concerns about Backus playing with a nagging injury for this season.
LG – Rob Sims was solid in pass protection last season, but mediocre in the run game. While this is the best LG the Lions have had in some time the run game needs help and I am hoping he will improve in this facet of the game.
C – Many of us question the physical abilities of Raiola. He makes good calls at the line, but gets mauled quite a bit, especially by bigger DTs and NTs. Many Lions fans do not have faith in him to be a solid starter at C, and being an older player makes these concerns even worse.
RG – Stephen Peterman has real consistency issues. In 2009 he looked good, especially in the run game, but last season it seemed like there were no holes to the right side of the line. He has also had injury problems that have limited his performance. He needs to stay healthy and have a good season this year.
RT – Gosder Cherilus is supposed to be the starter, and he had a pretty good season last year, but still was not as dominant as many people believe he can be. He is coming off knee surgery to begin the season, and questions are swirling about whether he will be able to play at a high-level (at least equal to last season).
Depth T – Fox has been looking good at LT, but we will have to wait and see how he does when the full team is practicing. However, he has not looked as good at RT so filling in if Gosder can’t go will be a dubious proposition. I still have the feeling even at LT he is not at the level of Backus. Culbreath has apparently looked OK, but needs much coaching before he will be ready to play a real game in the NFL. I haven’t heard much about Ugoh, which to me is probably not a good sign that he will be a good starter if either Backus or Cherilus can’t perform.
Depth (The Rest) – I can honestly say I don’t know much about these guys, but they haven’t taken a starting spot from any of the three interior linemen, which pretty much says to me – they may be decent back-ups, but they are not good enough to start.
So, while I hope for the best, this OL unit frightens me. I think LeShoure will help in the run game, but without blocking the increase will be minimal. We all know that our success is dependent upon Stafford staying healthy, and with a questionable line I am worried about him taking hits in the pocket (especially if the run game doesn’t take off and we throw an extra 10 times per game to compensate).
nice breakdown and agree on the concerns
I’m hopeful of Donald Thomas to provide good competition to Peterman if Peterman is not healthy or not focused. I’m not too worried about our depth at tackle just because we have 3 decent options, so out of those 3, I think will emerge an effective backup. Haven’t heard much from Ugoh, but unless he’s worse than he was when he played LT for the Colts, he should be a fine spot duty player. We have more depth than people give credit for.
One of the things that annoys me the most with many Lions fans is the rigid policy: “new is better.” It’s always, “put someone else in there, they’ll be great!!!!!!!” – which just gets nauseating. We brought Thomas in during the season last year because we needed to give Peterman some competition, I believe he’s serving his purpose (Peterman did play much better the week after Thomas was brought in…coincidence? Maybe.). Hilliard showed he could fill-in for Gosder and we wouldn’t notice a real decline in play. I’d think with him getting more reps and time in this system, he wouldn’t perform worse than last year!
The Dis-Assembly Line - The unofficial, official name for the next best D-line in football.

by 































