Lions Receivers Are Battling For Roster Spots
We are now halfway through the preseason schedule for the Lions, and enough has happened to form opinions about who might hold the upper hand in battles for roster spots. One of the most interesting positions to watch is wide receiver. The Lions will keep at least five receivers and possibly six depending on how players perform through the remainder of camp. So let's take a look at where the battles stand after the game against the Cleveland Browns.
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The Sure Things
Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, and Titus Young are going to make the roster. It is set in stone. Barring injuries, these three will get the vast majority of snaps in the offense during the upcoming regular season. We know Calvin Johnson is arguably one of the top five receivers in the NFL, if not top three. Nate Burleson is effective, and makes some tough catches. It also appears that Nate is seriously fired up about the upcoming season and he is playing like a man with a mission. We haven't see much of Titus Young yet, due to injury, but there is no way that the Lions cut a second round draft pick without giving him a couple years to see what he has.
The Bubble Busters
Derrick Williams
The Lions selected Williams in the third round (82nd overall) of the 2009 NFL Draft. Because a draft pick was spent for him, the Lions have given Williams every opportunity to develop and become a contributor. So far, it has not worked out.
Williams was initially drafted to return kickoffs and punts. When he was used in that role, he was tentative and ineffective. Williams made poor decisions and regularly fumbled kicks and punts. He was eventually relegated to the bench and Stefan Logan replaced him as the return man. With the arrival of other players that can return kickoffs and punts, such as Stefan Logan, Rashied Davis and Nate Burleson, the opportunity for Williams to become the return man has closed.
After failing to impress in the return game, the Lions wanted Derrick Williams to become a speed receiver that could stretch the field. He has the physical skills to play that role quite well, except for the ability to catch the ball. Since a large part of Williams failure in the return game was fumbling the ball, this appears to be an innate problem. He does appear not have good hands, which is a fatal flaw for a receiver in the NFL.
It is likely that Derrick Williams has fumbled and dropped his way off the roster in 2011. Unless he can make a dramatic turnaround, he is likely to be a casualty in the final round of roster cuts. Derrick needs to catch everything that comes his way, except the flu, in the remaining preseason. He has used up his grace period from being a draft pick and he is squarely on the bubble to be cut.
Maurice Stovall
Maurice Stovall is a big body receiver at 6'5" and 220 lbs. He had been acceptable, but not special, up till the preseason game with the Cleveland Browns. During that game Stovall made a strong case for a roster spott. He caught pretty much everything that came to him and combined with Drew Stanton to be the spark plug of the Lions offense.
What is so inttriguing about Stovall is the ability to pair him with Calvin Johnson when the Lions are close to the goal line. They would represent a physical mismatch for both cornerbacks. If the opponent chooses to double both CJ and Stovall, the Lions will have Nate Burleson, or a tight end, on a linebacker in the center of the end zone. If the opponent uses a nickel package to counter that, the Lions will have an easier time running the ball into the end zone. Both Megatron and Stovall being big receivers, could make some important blocks to get a running back into the end zone. In theory this could be an extremely effective goal line package if the interior of the offensive line does the job by keeping people out of the backfield.
If Maurice Stovall continues to make impressive plays in the remainder of the preseason, he will be very difficult to cut. He is definitely one of the players to watch. Look to see if Stovall can make some blocks as well as catches.
Rashied Davis
When the Lions signed Rashied Davis they got a player with a ton of versatility. He can play as a regular receiver and performed well for the Chicago Bears in that role. Davis is a special teams dream that can return kickoffs, return punts, and can also play on coverage teams. In fact, Rashied Davis is likely to be one of your top tacklers on special teams and will make some big plays for you there. In a pinch, Davis can even play cornerback if injuries force it.
The Lions coaches love versatility and Rashied Davis is the poster boy for versatility. He has been a passable wide receiver for the Lions in preseason, but his special teams play has been outstanding. Rashied Davis has positioned himself as one of the favorites, out of the bubble players, to make the roster.
Stefan Logan
I am not really sure we should classify Stefan Logan as a wide receiver since he is rarely used in that role. The value that Logan brings to the Lions is mainly in the kick and punt return role with an occasional carry as a running back in the offense.
Whether the Lions list Logan as a running back or a wide receiver, it is a distinction with little difference. If Logan stays on the roster, and that is likely, then he will be there primarily as a return man. He was the only player in the NFL last season to finish in the top five in both kick and punt returns.
There has been some concern that the rule changes for kickoffs would lessen the value of Stefan Logan, but after two preseason games I feel that the opposite has become true. Logan has been able to return the ball consistently enough to make his returns a factor in field position. It appears that the kickoff changes could actually make the truly special kick returners an even more valuable commodity in 2011. If you are one of the teams that has a guy that can get the ball out past the 20 yard line despite the new rules, then you will have an advantage in the field position battle.
The question on Logan comes when you consider that Rashied Davis could also fill the return role. This decision will also come down to the performance of bubble players at other positions. For example, if it comes down to cutting Logan or Ashlee Palmer, the Lions will have a difficult decision. The linebackers get a lot more play and therefore they are a lot more prone to injury. If Jim Schwartz feels that Rashied Davis is an acceptable option in the return game then Logan could find himself in a numbers game, and then on the outside looking in. Though I feel the Lions will make every reasonable effort to keep Logan .
Demario Ballard
When the Lions fans got a look at Demario Ballard an immediate love affair arose for some. Ballard is intriguing for all the same reasons that Maurice Stovall is, except that Ballard appears to have more speed. The problem with Ballard is that he played at a very small college where the competition was inferior and the offenses were not very complex. Ballard was a standout player at college based almost entirely on his size.
While every Lions fan would love to find another Calvin Johnson lurking in the flotsam of Division II football, that is just way too much to expect from Ballard. He is not quite as fast as Calvin and he is not nearly as strong. Ballard is a tall and lean guy with a bit of speed that needs a lot of development, both physically, and in learning how the pro level of football is played. Demario Ballard is a long shot to make the final roster, but he could end up on the practice squad. He may survive the cut down to 80 players, but get cut later when the Lions can hide him in the vast wave of final roster cuts.
All the Best, For All the Rest
The receivers that are likely to be cut soon are Dominique Barnes, Marcus Harris, Nate Hughes, and Tim Toone. Some of these guys will not survive the cut down to 80 players. One or two might make it until final cuts. But when the final cuts come, it is likely that all of them will be gone. I wish the best for them in their lives after the Lions.
Tim Toone has one more year of eligibility for the Lions practice squad and he might get a position there based on his experience in working as part of the Lions scout offense in practices. It might come down to a choice between keeping Ballard or Toone on the practice squad, if there are not enough spots for all the guys the Lions would like to keep.
So What Does All That Mean?
Based on our discussions, I predict that the Lions will keep Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, Titus Young, Maurice Stovall, Rashied Davis, and Stefan Logan on the final roster. If the Lions opt to keep only five receivers then Stovall or Logan could be out, but I feel the Lions will find room for all of them. Obviously things could change because of future performances in preseason, but that is what I see at this point.
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I think Stovall should make it
D-Will should be out this year. He drops too many balls and I think we’ve seen enough of him. Stovall really made a strong case for himself in the Browns game to make the team and I think his upside as a big, strong receiver will give him the edge. D-Will has shown that he just won’t cut it. Also IMO Stefan Logan is an absolute lock, no way he’s going to get cut. He’s finally given us a good return game and even with the new rules there’s no way he’ll get cut.
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by Disassembly Line on Aug 21, 2011 5:32 AM EDT reply actions
I aggree at this point.
Stovall looked very strong against the Browns and DWill has not. Derrick is definitely reaching the end of his rope. I doubt that Williams will be let go in the first round of cuts unless he requests it. Sometimes guys will ask to be cut if it looks like they are not going to make the squad. It gives them a chance to get into another camp and possibly make a different team. We are only going to release ten guys for the August 30th cuts and there are probably 20 guys on the roster that would be cut before Williams.
Good analysis T.L.
I guess what’s the unspoken reality with the current state of this team and roster is, look how far this team has come when in 2+ years Derrick Williams has gone from what at the time was viewed as an integral piece of the puzzle, to basically just a camp scrub barely able to hold on to a spot on the team due to the level of talent brought in to compete at the position.
And not just at WR, but all over the roster,QB, CB, safety, DL, also. I don’t always agree with the process, but SchwartzHew has done a fantastic job in stocking this team with talent.
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Sounds about right
Johson, Nate, Young, Davis, Stovall, Logan (Grew, Scheffler, Heller TE’s) sounds like a solid receiving corps
Only problem the Lions will have is if their 1 (CJ) or 2 (Nate) WR goes down anytime during the season the play could drop off tremendously. Nate has stepped it up this year and there’s no doubt he’s playing like a man on a mission and it should carry over to regular season or if needing to fill in for CJ for a couple of games, would not go more than 3-4 games max. Titus is unproven and that injury could linger after that you have slot receivers and back ups at most filling out the roster but not ones that will take the pressure off of who would fill in 1 and 2 especially if CJ goes down. From a team standpoint w/ out actually seeing titus play and what he brings anything after Nate and CJ is suspect should either of those two go down, do the lions have someone who can fill in thats proven?
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Worried about Titus' development.
I think Nate did a great job stepping up in the last game, but your right. If him or CJ goes down, Titus will not be able to fill in. As a rookie receiver it’s already tough, but if forced play it’ll be worse. Right now, I’m happy with our receiving corps and I don’t see any reason to pick anyone up.
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by Disassembly Line on Aug 21, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
agree
wasnt suggesting a pick up, just was discussing once you look at the depth its kind of iffy after the number 1-2 WR spots w/ a lot of ? marks about how well this offense can perform there after especially since the run game looks stagnate. I personally hope Young is no less than Nate 2.0 so to speak and can step up if need be but again that plays into those ? marks. Davis Stovall Logan are not #2s and i they dont scare defenses off of dbl and triple coverage not first teams anyhow. They are more situational in their use. Hence why i put in my comment this offense couldnt sustain w/ the 1 or 2 WR injured for more than 3-4 weeks w/ those ?’s marks in place.
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by JaiGaiaAries on Aug 21, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
T.D. Young = Torry Holt 2.0
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It is true that we would have a drop off if either CJ or Nate gets hurt.
In a way, that is another reason that guys like Stovall and Davis are likely to make the roster. They have a few years in the NFL and would be more likely to understand what needs to be done in that circumstance.
with stovall stepping up
i am really beginning to think logan might be gone because hes just a STer. i liked it when they used him in the offense, but it was nothing more than a gimmick. between davis, stovall, young, and even best, they have capable returners that have other roles on this team. these coaches love versatility, and that is something that he lacks.
if it happens, i’ll miss him, but i understand it, 100%
I really don't understand how you can think Logan lacks versatility
I really don’t.
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+1
He brings a whole another dimension to an attack if they choose to use him on offense that no one else on the team brings.
Why do you think we haven’t seen him on O yet? Why give away the state secrets before it’s necessary?
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my thoughts exactly
You know Schwartz wouldn’t let Linny show all our secrets!
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'versatility' might not have been the best word to use
ethpesially witthhh Jihm Shhwwwarthz usthing that wurd thuday (taking foot out of my mouth)
what i meant was that he isnt good enough at either RB or WR to make it on those grounds alone. whenever hes out there, its usually a gimmicky play, or a fake gimmick. so i didnt mean that he CANT do those things, just that he cant do those things well enough, or consistently enough, especially with all the other ST talent around who can.
but im glad hes taking reps at RB. i hope he proves me wrong, i really do.
to say it differently
i was using that word with an extra dimension (quality) and that probably should not have been used in that way.
There were some runs that were basic pro run plays
not gimmicks. Like ISO sweeps… Logan adds to the run game IMO because he’s got good vision, change of pace (patience and then quick through the hole), and has good balance (being 5’6" – good leverage).
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some, sure
but, theres a reason he averaged less than 1 carry per game in a beat up backfield. just sayin.
look, i like him alot, i really do. i hope he earns a spot as a legit RB, and not just ST play. i just think that the situation is ripe to shop him.
Didn't feel like making a post but
How funny was Nate burlesons lebron James celebration after the first TD catch.
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by Gyorick on Aug 21, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
That was flat out cold hearted
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Number of WRs/RBs
Here is my feeling just coming from what I think the Lions have for needs.
First I must say that Logan is a RB/KR so lets just leave that as a starting point. Now going forward. The Lions need 2 swing backs, 2 plunge backs, a fullback, and 5 WRs. Now Best and Logan are swing backs. At plunge backs I see an open season on that and it will take until the final game to sort that out. At Fullback it still is an interesting debate. For WRs I think you got it nailed with Nate, Calvin, and Titus. My feeling from what I have seen and your write up is that Stovall would become our #4 WR and Davis could be our #5 WR as principle a special teamer.
One last thought is I would like to see the Lions just bite the bullet and change Logans designation from WR to RB and adjust his number accordingly. Plus give him some reps on the 3rd team offense for RB to see how he does.
agree - Like Logan as a RB
though, I’d also like to see Logan in there at the same time as Titus and throw screens to each…haha, maybe you wouldn’t want them both in there at the same time, maybe use Logan in motion as the decoy, and throw the screen out wide to Titus…man, with Burl being a very good screen option as well, we’re constantly a threat on those…Same with end-arounds. I’d like to see some more swing passes to Logan (in the regular season).
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Stovall has been solid
But I wouldn’t lock him in just yet. There is however no way Logan will not make the roster IMO. He has special talent in the return game. Titus and Davis I don’t see beating him out for that spot. Stovall has been solid as I said but by no means has he done anything to seperate himself from the competition either. I have to see something from him before I am sold on him making the team. It’s great to have guys that can make the short yardage catches but I need to see a big play or two out of him before I buy that just yet.
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True enough about Stoval
But his main competition is D Will.
Nuff said?
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Well everyones in competition though
Hell all Tim Toone needs to do is have one or two great games the job could be his. I doubt very much that will happen but there all in competition.
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by The Profiler on Aug 21, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Toone and feel like he has not been given a fair chance yet
In the slot, that little guy could do damage.
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We just haven't seen TY yet. We'll forget all about TT in a heartbeat.
By the way TY is practicing today.
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It is about damn time
Let us also not forget about Fairley. He got his cast off and it appears his recovery is moving along nicely.
TY is a different player than TT IMHO. TY, while he can play the slot, seems to be more of a edge burner, or at least that is what I get from coaching comments so far.
Something to think about, 5 receiver sets! CJ, Nate, TY, Davis and Stoval. I see those 5 names together and the possibilities that flare up in my mind are crazy fun. Sub in Grew or Sheff and the options are just sick.
I have to believe we did not see many empty backfields last season because we just did not have the talent at WR.
Imagine this. CJ split out wide left. Nate as his under receiver on his side. TY, Davis and Stoval in a bunch on the right side. As long as they line up correctly, I believe this formation is legal. How do you play this on defense? dime probably. do you double CJ? If you don’t, you are playing with fire. If you do, you are taking someone away from the bunch. That bunch has two 6’5ish guys and a speedster. Break one up the seam(TY or Davis?), one on a drag route across the seam(TY or Davis?) to cross with Nate coming across the seam and the last one with a quick out to the flat(stoval?). Secondary confusion galore.
I see it in my head much clearer than I can put it in words but I think you get the point.
BTW, a special sub in for Stanton in this formation? His mobility, considering the relatively limited blocking, could be a huge advantage for the O here. Also, the chance of the D clearing out the middle following the routes seems likely too. This could be a set designed to clear out the middle for a QB scramble, basically turning the QB into a direct snap RB.
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Why when I hear about 5 receiver sets.....
I picture Stafford flat on his back?…..lol
You might have a point on how they plan on using TY. I’m thinking slot and your thinking fly.
I like the Stanton idea.
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by delusional on Aug 21, 2011 4:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, any offensive set is going to expose our QB
I would rather, IMHO, send out enough weapons that the Defense has a very clear choice. Rush the passer or double team my receivers. If you double the receivers, Staff or Stanton(Mentioning him because of his mobility, not because Staff would be out.) has time. They will carve you up.
If you rush, there will be 2 quick routes built into this formation by default.
I want to challenge the D, not take what the D gives us. force out will upon them instead of waiting for the D to force their will.
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LOL, that's pretty sick Josh
I wouldn’t want to be the defensive coordinator that has to figure out how to stop it. There are lots of fun options, including giving Logan an end around with CJ, Stovall, Nate and Pettigrew blocking out in front. Then you could have the same alignment, but fake the end around to freeze the defenders and hit an open receiver deep downfield. That play could be nasty to defend. If even one of the defenders bites on the fake end around, it could go house.
exactly
it is about options. These guys cause problems on their own. Putting them on the field together presents more than just match up problems. It causes systemic defensive scheme difficulties across the board.
How about TY on the end around out of the bunch? Usually, a team will run a dime with 3 defenders packed close to the LOS if there is a three man bunch. Run Davis and Stovall out (one deep, one mid level) with TY faking a clear to the short flat, then he turns and does the end around over to CJs side. In this formation, Nate can stay on that side to block or run a cross, pulling his guy to the wrong side of the field while “picking” anyone that might try to run along the defensive side of the LOS following TY. If CJ is doubled, TY will have one guy to beat in this situation as hopefully CJ has done his job and blocked one of them.
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It's a great idea
I’m all for taking a page out of GB or NEs play book. I like the idea of Logan in there – the defense would automatically think it’s a gimmick and Logan is the target – thus setting them up for a end around fake, or screen fake – which would probably leave Titus streaking one-on one with no safety help and or more room over the top to play “lob to CJ”…you could easily replace Stovall with Scheffler and probably have the same effect (Scheff has great straight line speed – I would use him to press the seam and/or block for a short flat or screen to Titus…)
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The options are amazing really
We just need the talent on the field to use it. I know we did not have it last year. I think it is getting closer today.
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Josh I think Toone is out, and so is Williams.
I think the final spot comes down to Stovall.
Reasoning:
Williams just played himself out of a spot with all the drops.
Burleson and Young can rotate at slot negating the need for Toone.
Davis has to make the team with his versatility and ST play.
Stovall should provide us with another red zone threat.
Sound thinking or not?
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That O set at the red line would be extremely difficult to defend.
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So yes
Reasonable thinking in my mind.
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I wish I had not slacked on my programming skills a few years ago.
I would like to write a program to look at routes and formations and then running them live so you can see them moving.
I have no doubt teams use programs just like this, i wonder if there are any out there for the public?
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that would be rad
definitely worth a look.
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I have not looked yet
going to do so today. If I find anything. I will let you know.
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hughes looks like he's trying to play his way in
Stovall made some nice catches, would’ve been interesting to see how far he would’ve got if drew had got the one pass out in front of him
by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Aug 21, 2011 2:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Good read Tuff, here are my thoughts
First of all, let me say that this is my opinion and what I see and what I would do, it in no way reflects what I think will actually happen or what the coaches will do. Personally, I thoguht Eric Fowler looked real good in the Lions preseason last year, and I totally wanted them to keep him over Byrant Johnson and possibly Derrick Williams. However they totally did not, and after they cut him the Vikings picked him up. He looked good there too but then was cut by the Vikings in their final roster cuts.
I urge everyone to remember that this is preseason. It is amazingly deceptive and many times you really have to consider the competition that players are going up against when evaluation players.
Let me also preface this by saying that I would keep 6 receivers.
Derrick Williams: This guy needs to see a sports shrink, and fast. Maybe doctor Dani from Necessary Roughness can fit him in her schedule, because Dwheelz has the yips. I know I am going to get ripped for this, but I would keep him, even with his drops to this point, for one more year. He just has more upside than anyone on the bubble. The separation he has been getting in the 2nd half of last season and the beginning of this preseason is a clear progression of his talent in my mind. You cannot teach speed, and Derrick has it. Other than Calvin and Titus, no other receiver on our roster can take the top off a defense except Derrick. If we want to be able to field two over the top receivers in any given game plan, then we had better keep Derrick, especially with the injury questions surrounding Titus.
Maurice Stovall: I like this guy a lot, and were it based on pure emotion he would be my hands down pick for our 4th receiver. I do like the match up issues he creates wish his size. However that being said, I need to see him against 1’s. The separation he is getting on 2’s is almost nonexistant. He is getting open by body shielding, which you would expect for a big body receiver. However, he is doing it against 2’s, 3’s, and sometimes 4’s and those guys do not have the ball skills the 1’s do. The 1’s very well may make plays on the ball preventing him from being an effective possession receiver.
Rashied Davis: While he may not excel as much in any given area as another receiver in positional value his special teams value and versatility definitely push him way up the list. This guy can play several receiver positions, is a top notch gunner, and in a pinch can even play corner or be a return guy. This guy is the very definition of glue, he fills so many holes that he quite literally can hold a team together if need be. Not to mention that he is a veteran so his performance is going to be at a pretty even keel.
Stefan Logan: This guy is much like Calvin, he is easily a top 5 return man, if not top 3, and I just don’t see us letting a guy like this walk, even if it is on special teams. Couple that with his integration into the offense last year and he has even more value. Even with the rule change on kick off’s I would not devalue his importance nor impact on the game. There are still punts, swing passes, screens, and end around plays and he is a threat to take it to the house any time he touches the ball in one of those situations.
I would put Toone and Ballard on the practice squad, they both need more development in their games.
Given that Calvin, Nate, and Titus are 1-3 I would place the following order on the remaining guys
4. Rashied Davis
5. Stefan Logan
6. Derrick Williams
Yes this leaves us cutting Maurice Stovall, and it will hurt me a little inside when or if he is cut because I really like the guy. I will also add, that if I were going to keep him, I would still keep Logan and Williams, because his skill set closely matches that of Davis. This is why I ultimately would choose to cut him, he would lose out the the more proven, veteran player to me. Logan and Williams both add a unique skill set and bring something different to the table in a group dynamic than Stovall and Davis. Which pits those two in direct competition and unfortunately I see Maurice losing that battle.
Sometimes you have to assemble the best team, not the best group of individual talent. Role playing on the depth chart is extremely important. As a team, I believe, it is prudent to have guys that you can plug and play into your game plan rather than trying to have to tailor your game plan to what 46 happen to be dressing.
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I am really worried about this POS. How can Titus be ready to start, he is a rookie who is too injured to practice. How are he and the QBs going to jell if he can never play? So we need a good 4 and we don’t have a body to fill this pos. I like Stovall but he is a poor man’s Calvin. Dwill is not getting open but can’t catch. Logan is not a WR. Lots of ppl love Nate but he too is a drop machine so…. This shores up a spot for Davis due to versatility and decent hands. I don’t like either Stoval or DWill but they need another player. I think Dwill keeps his job.
That is a legitimate concern.
Titus Young FINALLY practiced today, as did Jeff Backus. He still has a couple weeks to get his conditioning up to par and that is enough. While he could not run the plays while he was hurt, he had plenty of opportunity to to get the system straight in his head and make sure he knows the playbook. He could also use film to learn what to do and what not to do. Sure, you need to get on the field and practice to really get your skills honed, but the classroom work is also very important and Titus should have that stuff wired by now.
agree
Titus has been super psyched to be a Lion and play his role. I love how people just act like he’s trying to get out of practicing or something absurd like that. I’m sure it’s the trainers/coaches holding him back. And maybe he’s at fault for not being in true football shape…but it’s not like he had rookie OTAs or contact with coaches to know exactly how to prepare…I’m sure he’s learning, and learning fast. Come game 3 or 4, I think he’ll be fully ready to make an impact (I also agree that the film and scheme learning is a huge part and probably has been beneficial to him – but it’s the physical nature of DBs in the NFL and timing with Staff that I think he might need a couple weeks into the season to get everything set..)
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dude, seriously
You shouldn’t be calling our up n coming talent POS… secondly, Nate as a drop machine??? seriously? What game have you been watching? He’s drops one every now and a again, but certainly no machine nor is he worse than the average starting WR at it…Plus, Nate is clutch.
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Yeah, Nate is a drop machine.....lol
When I read that, I knew I shouldn’t read any furthur.
Nate’s dropping em left and right…lol
Then we should keep DW?…..Okay, whatever
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by delusional on Aug 21, 2011 8:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+20 lol
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by Bballkid-22 on Aug 21, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
+10
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"In Mayhew we trust"
Thank you Kris Draper and Chris Osgood for all the memories
I like Stovall more than D Will at the moment
Williams seems to do a pretty job of getting open, but in his position, drops are very critical. Stovall however is making catches, and has showed he can be a reliable target, something I count as crucial for a 4th or 5th Wide Receiver. Outside Stovall, I expect Davis to make the team due to versatility.
I like Stovall more than D Will at the moment
Williams seems to do a pretty job of getting open, but in his position, drops are very critical. Stovall however is making catches, and has showed he can be a reliable target, something I count as crucial for a 4th or 5th Wide Receiver. Outside Stovall, I expect Davis to make the team due to versatility.

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