Lions Take It To Patriots In 34-10 Victory
by Sean Yuille on Aug 27, 2011 11:30 PM EDT
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Although it's only the preseason, Saturday night's game between the Detroit Lions and New England Patriots had the feel of a heated regular season battle. In front of a sold out Ford Field crowd, the Lions came out extremely pumped up, and the festive crowd got them even more pumped up once the action started. It was evident from the beginning that the Lions were much more geared up for this nationally televised game than the Patriots, and the final score -- 34-10 in the Lions' favor -- reflected that.
The Lions came out of the gates slinging the ball around, and Matthew Stafford picked up where he left off last week. He ended up completing 12-of-14 passes on Saturday night for 200 yards and two touchdowns. What's amazing is his stats could have been even better. One of his incompletions was a dropped pass by Nate Burleson in the end zone on the first drive of the game (the Lions had to settle for a field goal). The drop came after another great toe-drag catch by Burleson that went for 37 yards to keep the chains moving. The other incompletion was because of great coverage on a perfect pass by Stafford.
Burleson more than made up for his drop on the second drive of the game for the Lions. After a New England punt, the Lions came out and picked up 52 yards on a screen pass to Jerome Harrison. Two plays later Stafford found Burleson in the end zone with a bullet of a pass for nine yards and a touchdown.
The Patriots responded with a 16-play, 69-yard drive that resulted in a 33-yard field goal. The Lions couldn't get the Patriots off the field because Tom Brady kept picking up third down conversions on passes to his tight ends. Finally the Lions stuffed the Patriots on third and short to get off the field.
Detroit's next offensive possession did not produce any points. It ended when Stafford was sacked for a loss of eight yards on third down. This was the first time Stafford was hit all preseason, and he quickly bounced back up, which was a welcome sight for all Lions fans.
Brady got hit quite a bit throughout his time on the field by the likes of Ndamukong Suh, Corey Williams and Cliff Avril, who forced a fumble on a sack on New England's first drive of the game. Brady looked visibly frustrated with how much pressure he was under, and New England went three and out on its next drive.
The Lions quickly turned the ugly New England possession into points with only three plays. Stefan Logan rushed for four yards on first down from midfield, and on the next play Stafford found Johnson for a diving catch and a 30-yard gain. Stafford got drilled, and Johnson had to make an adjustment and come back for the ball as a result. He made the catch anyway, and Stafford again bounced back up and showed no signs of any problems after the hit. His next pass was a 22-yard touchdown right to Tony Scheffler, who picked up a penalty for dancing with his teammates after the score.
After trading punts, Brady finally got some revenge on the Lions defense by finding a wide open Wes Welker for a 44-yard touchdown pass. Aaron Berry and Erik Coleman bit on a play-action fake, leaving Welker wide open for the touchdown.
The Lions started pulling most of their starters by this point in the game (less than five to go in the first half), and Shaun Hill came in and led the offense to a 46-yard field goal. Jason Hanson nailed the kick, and it looked like he was going to be needed again after Ricardo Silva picked off Brady on the ensuing possession. Hanson was needed, but only for an extra point, not a field goal. Hill got the Lions 46 yards down the field and into the end zone in only 26 seconds, and he scored a touchdown on a nine-yard pass to Aaron Brown. The TD put the Lions up 27-10 at halftime and put an exclamation point on a dominating half of football.
In the second half there weren't a ton of noteworthy plays, as most of the starters were gone by the time the third quarter rolled around. New England did send Brady and the first-string offense back out there to start the second half, but they departed after going three and out.
The rest of the third quarter was led by a couple of former Michigan State quarterbacks. Drew Stanton came in for the Lions and put them in field goal range, but Dave Rayner missed a kick from 49 yards out. Stanton's next drive also didn't produce any points, as he was picked off in the end zone thanks to Nate Hughes letting the ball bounce off his facemask and into the air for an easy interception.
Stanton's third drive was the charm for putting points on the board. After another New England punt, Stanton led the Lions 69 yards down the field on 12 plays and capped off the drive with a four-yard touchdown pass to Derrick Williams on fourth down. On the drive the Lions moved the ball primarily thanks to a 13-yard reception by Tim Toone, an 11-yard reception by Williams and a 22-yard run by Ian Johnson.
Hoyer, a fellow former Spartan quarterback, hoped to replicate Stanton on the Patriots' next drive. He faced fourth down deep in Lions territory and was looking to finally lead New England into the end zone. The Lions defense stood tough, however, forcing the turnover on downs. This kept the score at 34-10, which is what the final ended up being after a couple punts by Detroit and another turnover on downs by the Patriots after Ryan Mallett came into the game at quarterback.
I will admit, it's tough to make a statement in the preseason, but the Lions certainly made the nation take notice that they are the real deal against New England. While the game won't count for anything in another couple of weeks, the Lions shredded New England's defense thanks to Stafford having another outstanding game, and on the other side of the ball Detroit controlled the line of scrimmage. New England didn't seem to know what to do with the Lions defensive line, and the constant pressure seemed to throw Brady's game off. It was a welcome sight after he lit up the Lions on Thanksgiving last year.
The Lions are now 3-0 in this year's preseason and will look to cap off an undefeated preseason next Thursday in Buffalo. Starters aren't expected to play much or at all, as this game will be the final chance for players on the bubble to show they deserve to make the team.
Kickoff for the Bills game is set for 6:30 p.m., and the game will be broadcast live on WXYZ and other Lions affiliates across the state of Michigan.
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Stafford looked amazing
Can’t wait to see him against Tampa Bay
It was pretty damn good
..because it was a serious, perennial contender on the other side of the ball.
And Detroit murdered them all game.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
You forgot to mention how dirty the Lions are
At least that is what the Pats fans seem to think
that's how we won
don’t you know!?
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Fuck 'em
…Pats fans been eating good for years.
They can say what they want, but just got their asses handed to them.
The Lions are a team to be feared now, and they are only improving.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Hmmm....
Coming from a team that lost a 1st round pick a few years ago for cheating?
by coolbreeze42 on Aug 28, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, not really.
Unless the Dolphins also lost a first round pick, the Jets, Steelers, Cowboys, Chiefs…
They lost it for pissing off the commissioner. Kind of like the fines that Suh keeps getting, Goodell hands out punishments disproportionate to the actual crime.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
Wow, you guys are still in denial.
Look, you cheated, got caught, and were punished. It’s over, time to move on.
Trotting out the “those guys did it too” defence is pretty lame.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
by NorthLeft12 on Aug 28, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
But why weren't the other teams punished?
Even the teams who continued it after the memo came out? Maybe because it was nothing? Or maybe because the Pats were too good and needed to be handicapped?
If it’s over, and time to move on, dickheads need to stop attaching the word “cheats” to any statement involving the word “Pats”.
(Dickhead refers specifically to one of the Packers guys, not anyone here)
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
Who might that be?
It’s good to know you break site rules at other places, not just APC. Nice to see you take after your team.
13.
Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!
Whoa, Whoa, whoa, you guys won a meaningless preseason game and you sir, are already thinking Superbowl?
At least that is what your tone suggests. Calm down a little. Take it from a team that has been there and done that numerous times over, all is nothing without the Lombardi trophy. You guys played great. But remember schemes were not really present. It in the grand scheme, means nothing. Remember it wasn’t that long ago a certain team went 4-0 in the preseason and followed that impressive performance, by going 0-16. So please, i know you’re excited, but calm down.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
who said superbowl? are you reading something else and commenting on it here?
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
btw, the Pats are lucky we didnt scheme.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
pats didnt have looked to scheme either.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Its in reply to the sense of superiority that North wrote above. And the whole unnecessary "spygate"
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
HUH? or in proper Canadian......EH?
I considered the Pats my # 2 NFL team from the days of Grogan and Morgan. I really don’t see how you can read that I think the Lions are superior to the Patrots. I said to quit crying about it. Sort of like the Lions fans who keep whining about the season opener last year.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
I could never call a bitch smacking like the Pats recieved meaningless
granted the game doesn’t count but your O-line and QB’s were breathing a sigh of reliefwhen the final whistle blew
I thought being lazy was a bad thing, So I gave up thinking.
by Wayne Fontes on Aug 28, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Were Lions fans always like this? Or it only shows when doing well in the preseason?
I could never call a bitch smacking like the Pats recieved meaningless
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Mankins was frustrated he had no answers
I do hope the Pats treat the Jets in the regular season the way our D line treated you last night
I thought being lazy was a bad thing, So I gave up thinking.
by Wayne Fontes on Aug 28, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
we're not all like that
but there are a lot of crazy Lions fans IMO! haha
preseason game doesn’t mean much. Much there are a lot of things that have been consistent from last year and throughout the offseason (great pass rush and passing game).
Mentioning the 2008 seasona dn preseason without any context is a bit ignorant
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thats the only thing 31 teams can say anymore...
…“look how bad you USED to be”
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
Mentioning the 2008 seasona dn preseason without any context is a bit ignorant
Certainly not as ignorant as thinking beating the Pats in a preseason game is in some way a means for being rude. I.E mentioning spygate. But yet you seem quite fine with that.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
I LOVED seeing that look on Bradys face when he sat
on the ground for about 5 seconds.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
his body language was apparent all night.
he was mentally beaten. By the D line, or himself, we’ll never know.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
pats lost against the rams in the 3rd game of lats years preseason.
they went 14-2 that year. Dont base performances off of preseason.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I don't think anyone (with half a brain)
is thinking this means anything for the Pats fortunes. It does, however, seem to confirm a lot of things about what we thought were strengths that the Lions had…
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Of course, but Im not trying to promote the pats
Im just saying even very good teams lose in the 3rd preseason game.
The lions look very talented and showed some god strengths that game. For me though, I never look at a preseason game as what would happen in the regular season.
Im just saying that this game, ultimately, means nothing except of a few matchup reviews, what players can and can’t do, and how they do with each other.
But you guys have every right to be happy. I would if our team played like that. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I loved the look on his face after he ate that big pie after the Thanksgiving game in Ford Field.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
keep clinging onto the past.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
You are blowing my mind bro lol. I understand that you are excited and you should feel optimistic,
by all means. However, just keep in mind, games will matter in 2 weeks, not right now. Please that is all i ask.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
I will gladly support the Pats all season if one of your players would punch Rex Ryan in the face.
I do hope you guys win your division
I thought being lazy was a bad thing, So I gave up thinking.
by Wayne Fontes on Aug 28, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If Sanchez only had the guts to do that himself lol
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
like i dont know that?
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
The actions of writing certain things, would surely give me a sense that you don't.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
you mean like, “keep living in the past”?
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
you wrote that, not i.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
youre drunk.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
And you've clearly ran out of sensible things to post. With that knowledge, i
am out. best of luck Lions fans. Good show.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Something about that Thanksgiving day game
We lead at Half time. And that was with out our Starting QB. And say what we all want this way or that way, but I could tell that last Novembers game was on our D’s mind last night, and it showed from the start of the game. We can play it off one way or the other but that was a revenge game for our team.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Look
you’re right. It’s preseason and means nothing in the long run. It is however one of the few bright moments in the last ten years for us. Some are over the top but it’s understandable. The spygate thing I agree is too much but you guys have been great before and after. Your team will most likely be there come playoff time regard;ess of this game. We are still in the we may be there phase. Good luck on the season but please let go of this unnecesary spat
Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now
by Justan Oldfart on Aug 28, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean you guys as well right? Not just me.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
:))
uhh actually I do but it is a lions site. and by your i am out post mine became unnecessary
Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now
by Justan Oldfart on Aug 28, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
nice recap
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i hope we lose the next preseason game!!!
just so we dont have to hear the unmentionable season brought up
too late
“The Lions (3-0) know they can’t get too excited about exhibition results because they were undefeated in the 2008 preseason and went on to become the NFL’s first 0-16 team.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap;_ylt=AuFdkQYHg9YAyTnbT4Xgofw5nYcB?gid=20110827008
by supupeoples on Aug 27, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
haha nfl.com has that too!
way to take cheap shots!
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Doesn't really apply
…radically different team with a new identity and has lots of offenses scared, to say nothing of Nick Fairley sitting out rehabbing.
0-16 is a memory. These Lions are for real.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
or KVB
imagine that rotation! it’s nuts, no – it’s murder!
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Exactly.
The Lions are now known as a defensive horror show with a high-caliber offense.
Identity.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Carp with 6 tackles!
great stuff
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Durant will make for a nice depth guy.
.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?
by delusional on Aug 27, 2011 11:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Avril credited with 2 sacks and a forced fumble
monster!
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Yup
Time to sign him long term.
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-Martin Mayhew Detroit Lions GM, Master of the Universe
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Aug 28, 2011 12:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can't say the Pats were playing down either..
they were merciless in their first 2 games. Loving our starters and the depth were putting behind them.
Watching #49 was a blast but now it's time for some #53
by TheForceOfFollett on Aug 27, 2011 11:51 PM EDT reply actions
Man, Stafford's play fake in the red zone is dynamite!
he fit that thing into Burleson with 3 defenders around him! You can’t stop that.
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That thing was a bullet!
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-Martin Mayhew Detroit Lions GM, Master of the Universe
"Fairies don’t win championships. Bad Ass Mofo’s Do!"- Kevinz418
by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Aug 28, 2011 12:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So how full is the band wagon now?
Is anyone going to want to argue my CRAZY prediction about our offense putting up 5000 yards of offense this year. As long as Staff can stay healthy for the entire season, 5000 and 40 TD’s is going to be a cake walk! that’s not even 3 TD’s a game.
How many lumps you want Doc?
yeah, I can see the offense getting that
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i said it over a month ago, and was laughed at
This offense could and that is a VERY BIG COULD, break Scott Michelle’s single season record for most yards. I’ll just be a little sad because that will mean Barry will get knocked out of the books at least in 1 stat.
How many lumps you want Doc?
given our run situation
It adds to your prediction…
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I have said this a couple of times
Stafford 3500+ yrds with 30 to 35 TDs
Yooperlionfan is officially "the man"
the Lions D-Line: the Four Horsemen of the A-sack-alypse
Jim Schwart: Erasing the stink of Millen, one fist pump at a time.
P.C.P: It is not just for recreation anymore.
and 16 game starts.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
1st team looked great
I would like to see a better run game but Staff looked amazing
seems like Linney is definitely taking the Packer approach of last year
Posse Base set (3 wrs) in shotgun – spread the defense. Use motions. Do this until you get the defense on their heels. Start hitting them with the run. Smart play calling IMO!
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Best comment by an announcer tonight...
You have to be BATTY not to consider CJ a top reciever in the NFL.. Cough…Cris Carter…Cough…
We've become so dumb we don't know how dumb we've become. Source Obscure
by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Aug 28, 2011 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
lmao
loved that
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roflmao
Yep. Liked Dierdorf’s comments all around tonight. He did his homework and knows what the Lions are all about now. He didn’t fall back on the lazy Lions-bashing that most media types have done since 2008.
Peter King has been on the Lions bandwagon for quite a bit, and Bradshaw loves Detroit.
Those slack jawed motherfuckers are finally starting to wake up.
Gotta hand it to Mayhew and Schwartz, and Suh & Stafford & Megatron and co. for putting a product out there that simply cannot be ignored.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Going out on a limb here
But our LB’s looked more into this game with Tulloch on the outside and Levy in the Middle.
How many lumps you want Doc?
I noticed that play
and I think it tells us a lot about Tulloch. He plays the body, not the ball, which is why he has a lot of tackles and not a lot of int’s. That was a really good play.
Did you guys see the size of that chicken?
didn't notice Tulloch on the outside
hmmm
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Jees
Tulloch and Durant were both active in stopping some runs tonight, and making Brady check down to a different WR, On 1 of those Sacks by Avril, He was trying to hit the TE and Tulloch was all over his target.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Durant played okay...
I’m sorry Davis but Tulloch played in the middle and for a middle Lb’er was basically invisible.
Yeah, the one ass play but that was it.
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by delusional on Aug 28, 2011 12:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Like #3 in the run stop pile.
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by delusional on Aug 28, 2011 12:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He stayed in the middle on every play. Didn't play on the outside once.
I got a chance to review the 1st half at least in slomo and on the big screen.
I’ll stand by what I’ve been saying. The weak link so far including yesterday is the 1st team lb’ers. A lot of plays were cleaned up the the nickel corner(McDonald), and the safeties, with a lb’er coming in 2nd or 3rd into the pile. Durant did have a 1 nice run stop and so did Tulloch.
The D-line played as good a game as I have ever seen any D-line play.
.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?
I agree. The perception that Tulloch played OLB is due to the nickel package being used.
No biggie, and I can understand the perception.
thanks for the break down
I did try to pay attention to Tulloch, and he did seem to hove a few yards in front of the LOS..like you’ve suspecting. We didn’t give up much yardage on the ground, but they also never really tested us with a power run game or anything. Little evidence to really judge by, but it seems like Tulloch will be getting most of his tackles by playing safe 3-4 yards in front of the LOS…
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Your right Rames.
It wasn’t really a good game to judge the backers other then Carpenter having another stellar game.
I thought about it. The reason it looks like Carpenter is so active is because most of the time he’s playing behind the 2nd team D-line with more opps to make open field plays.
I’m going to keep focusing on the lb’ers, because at the moment I am completely underwhelmed with all three, with Durant probably playing the best though.
It’s either a D+line stop, or McDonald or safety making a play. Delmas had a good game, Spievey so so.
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by delusional on Aug 28, 2011 12:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed, the LBs have lots of work to do.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
Oh man I am so Giddy right now.
That front 4 put so much pressure on Brady tonight that I really feel sorry for teams with lesser O-lines, like TB;Chicago;GB;Minnesota,KC;Denver;Oakland;Carolina;N.O.;I think Atlanta’s O-line is better. and it’s only going to get better with KVB and Fairley out there. . .Willie Young absolutely Crushed Hoyer. Did anyone else notice how pissed Brady looked on the sideline after getting smacked around all night.
How many lumps you want Doc?
chicago is fucked.
We will run over their wet kleenex line so quickly that I wouldn’t blame Cutler for hiding in the locker room all day. Mike Tice will have to go back there and tell him when it’s over and safe to come out.
Young would start if he was on another team.
by coolbreeze42 on Aug 28, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Different Young. Not the Philly one. Whoops.
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Willie Young
and yes, he’s looking like a monster this whole offseason. I think the added strength training (and weight) has helped him a lot – before he had a ton of speed on the outside, but now he’s been using his bull rush very effectively…
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WIllie Young will make the team
and probably Aaron Brown..a couple fine, late late round, Mayhew acquisitions, that are still good enough to make THIS 53.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
Looking at our schedule
If our defense plays with the intensity and heart we saw tonight, I can’t see the following teams beating us:
Chicago – With that line and Cutlers penchant for sacks, can you spell DISASTER
Minnesota – We saw how McNabb reacted last year (and no, Minney’s line is not much better than Wash’s was)
Kansas City – Cassel buckles under pressure. Enough said.
Sanfrancisco – Alex Smith?? Come on!?
Carolina – We LOVE these young mobile QBs!
Denver – As much as I like Orton, he can be flustered and isn’t mobile
Oakland – Campbell doesn’t have much of a chance if we get our kind of pressure on him
Add that up, it equals playoffs…wildcard in my book!
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Um you forgot 1 team
that has been giving up sacks all pre-season and let Rogers get sacked 4 times last night against Indy. I hate even saying this but “HitsVille U.S.A.” may just take out Rogers again this year. And being that the game was Nationally televised GB fans are shitting them selves right now.
How many lumps you want Doc?
I think we'll get one of those games
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I should add
I do see one of these teams beating us, but I also seeing us winning 2 games from the following teams:
Green Bay
Atlanta
New Orleans
Dallas
San Diego
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I'm sure we can go 2-4 here right?!
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I see 3-3
GB at least 1 time, Dallas is a should be, SD, we get at home, and between the 2 South teams we might get 1, I think we play both of those power houses on the road. Only bonus for us is they both are Domed teams.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Atlanta is at Ford Field!
so maybe that one or SD. We’re going to be mighty hard to beat here!
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by rames on Aug 28, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Man we might go 14-2
If we can stay healthy and our D plays like that. We could go undefeated at home and our road games don’t look all that tough now. Yeah i know the Kool-aid is flowing threw 2 I V’s right now but seriously if the front 4 plays like this all season, i don’t care who the QB is, you get in there face and knock them around they all start making bad decisions.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Easy does it now.
Breath deep.
.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?
by delusional on Aug 28, 2011 12:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
14-2 is really premature... Pie in the sky type shit.
but I’m excited too.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
So do I
we get SD at home so that’s a double Wammy for them. 1 outdoor teams don’t normally play well inside; 2, that team does not travel east very good. Only down side is that for some crazy reason our home game against them is a 4 O’Clock game,it must be the 4 O’clock game on CBS that week.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Dallas has not impressed me at all this pre-season.
in order to get pressure they have had to blitz just like N.E. and we all saw tonight what that is going to get us. Please Dallas leave those CB’s on islands against our 3 studs at the WR position.
How many lumps you want Doc?
haha, that's very true
Staff will carve them up! Too bad it’s not on Thanksgiving!
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Somewhere right now
Josh Freeman is shitting himself! Especially if that injury to Winslow Jr. is serious. He was hurt tonight and limped out of the game after running out of bounds.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Sonofa...
The Lions just looked better. I don’t know whether Detroit was extra-hyped, or the Pats were just flat, but they were certainly flatter. Brady looked off all night, but that may have had something to do with the OL turning into traffic cones.
If they play the Packers like you did us, they’ll be right there for the division.
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Thanks ISN
I do think we we’re more pumped for this – and playing at home helps. Clearly Brady hates it though (he’s a real competitor).
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He hates to lose.
Everyone should.
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Appreciate the sportsmanship.
Us Lions fans have had to deal with a LOT of bullshit over the years, and it makes me a little frustrated when fans of other teams try to justify losing to us with the ol’ “they be dirty!” bullshit. We’ve dealt with more pain and suffering in the last decade then most football fans deal with in a lifetime, so it’s much appreciated when an opposing fan’s team takes the high road and opts to not piss in our kool-aid. Thank you, sir.
Agreed. Great game Detroit.
I will always support you guys. Ive been supporting the lions for… 2-3 years now. Wish you guys all the luck.
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Y'all realise...
The Lions have now won seven in a row! Last time we lost a game was the first week of December!
These last three don't count, obviously
..but they’ve been highly enjoyable, especially given the lockout
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Though the preseason doesn't count
It’s nice to see that the Lions kept their momentum from last year going.
I watch the Detroit Lions and I....
by Lions & Panthers Fan on Aug 28, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm so pumped for this season!
Overall, the team looked great. Our front 4 was all over the backfield and the pass offense was crazy good. We could still improve the run game and stop those screen plays from developing but things look good. It was nice seeing Stafford get hit a few times and pop back up. He’s gonna put up some serious numbers this year.
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Aug 28, 2011 12:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fantasy Sleeper for sure
A lot of people waited on him because of injury concerns. I say the high risk, high reward. I like the reward he brings. that whole, ranked 15 QB crap will be soooo inaccurate. He’s either top 10 or won’t be top 30…
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So I was flipping to NFL Network during Commercials all night
And Rich was giving Lions BIG love on multiple shots; like every time they showed the Lions score. And Sapp is already back tracking he said at one point that the Lions band Wagon is already Full. It was only a few weeks ago that chump said we were not going anywhere. i can’t wait till Monday to listen to talk radio and see how all of the so called sports talk show guys all down grade this win as a pre-season game.
How many lumps you want Doc?
yup
it’s true though. It is preseason. BUT – we know the Dline is this good. They proved it all last year – so that’s no slight of the hand trick! Will our O continue to be this murderous!?!? Not sure, but everyone can tell it will be good – heck it was good last year with backups running the show…
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Sapp suffers from BarrySanderitus his comments must be excused
I thought being lazy was a bad thing, So I gave up thinking.
by Wayne Fontes on Aug 28, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I keep telling myself, its just the preseason, its just the preseason
But I sure as hell like what I am seeing
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by Evilsmurf on Aug 28, 2011 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
same here
talk me out of this hype pleeeeease!
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I feel like a Looney Tune's cartoon character
Cause i keep seeing stars dancing around my head.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Tell me about it.
I haven’t been this delerious the following morning after gameday in a long time. I keep repeating “its only preseason” in my head but the euphoria won’t stop.
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Aug 28, 2011 11:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
It is to the point I am looking for bad things to temper my enthusiasm.
by ATL Lion on Aug 28, 2011 8:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yup
I think we have to…to stay somewhat grounded
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Staff just keeps looking sharper and sharper.
Calvin had 12 TD’s last year with 3 QB’s, I’m going out on a limb here and saying it now: He will lead the league in TD rec’s. somewhere around 16.
How many lumps you want Doc?
good call
Hard for him not to if he plays all 16 games. 1 TD a game is nothing for CJ!
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i want to say 20
But i’m sure at some point in the year he will not get 1. then again if this offense keeps going like it has, and that was without Best, we may really have a top 5 offense and is 6000yards of total offense out of the question?
How many lumps you want Doc?
I'd think we might average 350 as an offense
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It'a pained me to watch Megatron get slept on year after year
..and not have the tools around him to be the best receiver in the league.
I hope it finally happens this season.
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Unfortunately
I think we might have too many weapons around him now…
In the regular season, Stafford likes to just put the ball up there and let CJ fight for it, but in the preseason so far he’s been more relying on Burleson and the TEs. Taking what the defence gives him, like Linehan says. I’m sure he’ll still get his highlight reel catches, but he probably won’t be the focal point of the offence anymore.
that's a valid point.
I guess it’s for the good of the team.
I watched the kid get drafted and then let down season after season.
I really want Megatron to be the #1 WR in the league.
Not more than I want the Lions organization to flourish and the team to succeed, though.
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again, another valid point
If healthy, the potential of this team is pretty shocking.
All hinges on Stafford. Hill and Stanton cannot take us there.
Stafford to CJ needs to be a Sunday afternoon tradition.
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I don't know, man.
I’m starting to believe, with the amount of improvement that our young dudes have shown, along with additions (particularly on D), that we could make a playoff push even with Staff out for the season. I could definitely picture Shaun Hill leading this team to a 9-7 or 10-6 record.
I'd take a 10-6 record any day.
I don’t think Hill would lead this team too far into the post-season. Stafford has the arm and guys really buy into the dude when he’s at the helm.
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dont forget
this was only game 3 of the preseasone and CJ sat out game two with the shoulder. Tho it did take awhile for him to get his first catch of game 3.
And nasty Nate has looked sick!
we were averaging 380 in our first two preseason games!
255 pass yards
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we had over 400 tonight
with around 350 passing…
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Only?
Why not go for 600 points and the record?
Anything over 300 is pretty good. Ideally you don’t want huge numbers, it means you’re having to 80 yards each time you get the ball.
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good point!
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OR
because of the pressure from the front 4 we get a lot of 50 yards drives.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Against lesser teams
like any team that has a new system in place of new QB i.e. Minnesota,SF,Carolina,so on and so on, our front 4 is going to get us a lot of 3 and outs.
How many lumps you want Doc?
that may be true
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Better to have fewer yards and a higher efficiency.
If Stafford walks off at the end of the day 15-20 with 200 yards, it’s better than 30-50 with 400. Means the team is running it well, and that runs the clock down. Less passes = less total yards, and the more rushing attempts the better the chances of winning.
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we could see this team put up
a couple of 500 yard games. especially when we play teams that have real good offense’s, like the Saints and Chargers even GB.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Those are all good defenses though
I’d think more so when playing Denver or Oakland
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Pats pass defense was considerably worse than ours last year...
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True
But have you seen what N.E. did to the first 2 teams they played this year?
How many lumps you want Doc?
TB and Jax aren't the most steller Offenses in terms of passing...
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Very true.
But both of those teams were considered better than the Lions going into the season.
How many lumps you want Doc?
The Bucs maybe, the Jags weren't.
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Around here we don't think either team is. Homerism at it's best.
But if you listen to any talk show or NFL Network you would think so. MJD and the Mighty up and coming Buck’s who could not beat 1 team with a winning record last year get so much love it pisses all of us off.
How many lumps you want Doc?
I wouldn't have had the Bucs ahead.
They benefitted from a hugely easy schedule, but they should be 7-9 ish this year. The Lions seem like a 9-7 team at worst, now.
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The bucs have a fairly good offensive team.
Freeman was very good last year, and Mike Willaims(?) looked good last year, as well as Lagarette Blount. They have a good team, but not as good as the lions.
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but all I'm saying is temper the expectations a little because NE's biggest wekaness
by far is against the pass. We should make them pay when our biggest strength meets their biggest weakness. That is not the case for GB and SD …etc.
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Can't talk about SD because I don't get to see them enough
but in terms of strength and weekness, OUR D-line against their O-line=’s Rogers on the sideline with another concussion.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Well I see them every week
The Chargers that is. I’ve grown to love the Chargers and root for them very hard being that San Diego is my home, but my heart is with the Lions.
I will tell you that S.D. is a team that starts slow and finishes fast, which drives us fans out here crazy because they see it as underachieving with a team that is Super Bowl capable for most of the last decade. That will be a hell of game on Xmas Eve, I always spend that evening with my girlfriends family and will be the lone Lions Fan in a sea of Chargerdom.
Needless to say I will be representin’ and will sport Lions gear that night.
If I’m putting a team together, I’m gonna concentrate on QB and the D-Line, well, I think we rock in those areas and are really good in many others. I predict at least a 12-4 record this year. Teams that play our opponent from the previous week will be lucky because we’re going to beat teams up every week.
by SanDiegoMick on Aug 28, 2011 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I will go read the Pats Pulpit some and revel in their misery =D
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i see wgat you did!
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play nice!
they’ve been good to us IMO
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Very gracious i think. the few of them that came over here were damn nice guys.
How many lumps you want Doc?
The writer for the Pats' blog hates him some Suh, though
Continually calling him a Dirty Player, and this:
No matter how bad the refs were, or how dirty the Lions played, there is no excuse for such poor execution from the Patriots standpoint.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Might I add a "Get used to it."
Suh is gonna run roughshod all over your Quarterback whether it’s Brady, Mallett, or whomever else. Get used to the terrorism. He’s only in his second season.
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+1 Skylar
And Jr. has still yet to take the field next to SUH. It’s scary that Fairley hit’s harder than Suh. . .
How many lumps you want Doc?
the whole "Fairley hits harder than Suh" thing fucks me up
doesnt seem feasable!
run you chickenshits!
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
I could see them eventually getting around to hanging their hats on
the Thanksgiving win they had against us last year and having a lot of guys out tonight.
Did you guys see the size of that chicken?
I didn't post at all over there, just read what they had to say in the game threads
Actually they were pretty cool, not many of them bashed on the Lions at all. In fact most said some very nice things about us and mainly they kept their concerns to their own team. One of them even considered our dline top 3 in the league.
From years of being a Lions fan and having jackwads kick us when we were down I would not be so classless as to do that to another teams fans, expect the Bears, they deserve it ;)
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I like that Culter has a couple INTs and a number of sacks already
Same for McNabb and Rogers has been sacked a handful of times…
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Rogers has been getting smacked around quiet a bit so far.
4 times in the first half against the Colt’s. Chad Clifton has been getting punished so far this pre-season.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Clifton is overrated
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Bears fans...
unhappy with Roy Williams drops & lackluster attitude…from both ESPN & windy city….
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by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Aug 28, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
i love to see
that the lions players get just as hyped as the fans do when we play a big game. they all rise to the occasion. remembering the jets game last year, they played their asses off in that one (although ultimately falling just short). i can’t wait to see the bears monday night game. in fact, i believe if the lions do happen to make a wild card spot they will be a team no body wants to play in the 1st round of the playoffs.
The future is bright.
by joecool5672 on Aug 28, 2011 1:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
We ARE going to win the Division this year.
And we WILL host a HOME playoff game as well.
How many lumps you want Doc?
GB are champs until proven otherwise
I don’t know how you can think otherwise
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They were matched by Curtis Painter though...
That’s a bad sign.
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Jarrett Bush is not going to be in coverage in the regular season
13.
Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!
Curtis Painter isn't going to be starting for anyone, either.
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That's not a foregone conclusion
Manning/Collins aren’t…what’s the word for it?…young.
13.
Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!
still got about 3 good years for manning.
no need to rush for a young QB now.
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They are.
However, I think Det matches up well against them. The d line is disruptive enough to neutralize Rogers, as much as it is possible to do against him.
Did you guys see the size of that chicken?
I will sell my car to go to that game
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I'll sell your car to go to that game, too
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by NobodySpecial on Aug 28, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't wait until Staff goes off this year.
However, I know expectations have to be tempered in the preseason. The Pats had a buttload of players out of the game tonight. I said it before, I’ll say it again –
Staff: 4200 yds, 26 td’s, 13 ints.
Did you guys see the size of that chicken?
yards and INTs seem right
he’ll have at leat 30 tds though. We will be passing alot in the red zone and Staff is very good in that area of the field! It’s only averaging a tad less than 2 tds a game – which he will do with ease IMO
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Yeah, that is a conservative guess.
We won’t score a ton of td’s running the ball, unfortunately.
Did you guys see the size of that chicken?
Oh, yeah, and Suh will someday be in the HOF, barring some injury problems.
Did you guys see the size of that chicken?
you can't trust he will stay this way
not rain on people, but QBs don’t magically become flawless over an offseason. The regular season will offer it’s ups and downs. Stafford (in the past) has kind of been like a jump shooter in the sense that when he’s feeling it – he’s lights out. When he’s not, or getting a lot fo pressure, he can be inaccurate. It will happen.
BUT, it looks like he has a real chance to be in that zone much more often than out of it if the Oline continues to play the way it has.
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Look at Brett Favre's stats from two years ago, and you might change your tune
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umm,
you’re comparing one of the best to ever play the position…those are some odds right there! haha
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Brett Favre was in his 40s
And ‘magically’ had a year with the Vikings where he played up.
That was not the Brett Favre that played his whole career in Green Bay.
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right
he also had over 10 year under his belt and was asked to not do very much (very different than most of his career and VERY different than what we’re asking of Stafford)
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I'm just saying
You ever watch stats, year to year?
Plenty of players break out every year. I’m not saying stafford is going to be throwing 80% all year this year, but it’s absolutely possible that he has studied enough and has the smarts that will take his game to another level this year.
Stafford didn’t become ‘flawless’ this year, he’s just shored up his few shortcomings that he’s had since being drafted. Did you see his command of that no huddle offense? Unbelievable.
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agree
that no huddle is brutal for defenses. I hope we see a lot of it! No question Stafford has taken his game to a new level. If you look at stats on accuracy though, you don’t usually see a ton of flux. Stafford is a gunslinger – like Farve. He’ll be hot and cold sometimes. When he’s hot, it looks like he’ll be unstoppable. And that, my friends, is an amazing thing to have at the helm! Something we haven’t had in half a century! (Mitchell doesn’t quite count IMO)
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by accuracy, I mean completion percentage
which could also be drops and good defensive plays… Stafford’s highest was 61% as a junior. He was 53% as a rook, and 59% last year. I think it’s safe to say Stafford will be between 60-70% – if he’s close to 70% – then look out, because we should be winning almost all of our games…
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I'm also keeping in mind that we will be passing A LOT
that’s why I don’t think he could sustain being in the 70s…If our run game magically turns very good, then I’d reevaluate. There will be game though that Staff is in the high 70s I believe…
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I wonder how much his completion % was hurt by his shoulder
in Staff’s rookie season. If it did hurt him we could be looking at 65-75%
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Aug 28, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
that was his left shoulder
so 0%
what hurt him was drops and wrs not getting open all the while getting a lot of pressure, thus forcing bad throws. If you go rewatch the old games, Stafford doesn’t look that sharp in most of those games. But he was alwyas a playmaker…I’ve been very impressed by how composed he looks now a days..a world of a difference from 09
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Guys Staff was lights out last year also
in the pre-season and in the games we got to see him in. He won the game he finished and was leading in both games he started. This isn’t a new thing with Staff the only new thing with Staff is that he is going to stay on the field for 16 games.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Stafford and Ricardo
First, it’s good to see Stafford can take a hit and bounce back. I was sincerely worried about this since he was not hit the previous two games.
Secondly, I haven’t heard too much about Ricardo making the roster. He’s had two interceptions thus far. Do any of you guys thinks he has a chance of making the roster?
I do now
Coleman or Wendling most likely are on the bubble
Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now
by Justan Oldfart on Aug 28, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel like Coleman blew his coverage on that TD
That was bad, bad football.
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yep
Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now
by Justan Oldfart on Aug 28, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
true
fortunately Nate has many years of film and most of it shows he doesn’t make many mistakes…it’s very different than a rookie in the evaluation Jim has to make…he has a good track record…
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I'm a big Coleman fan, trust me.
I haven’t heard anything of this Ricardo guy. I’ll take Coleman and Wendling anyday. Still, Coleman bit on the PA hard and it made us look foolish.
That dude has fucking cannons for arms though.
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That TD was straight up Berry's fault!
berry got caught looking into the backfield to see what Brady was doing on that play-action, and Berry in his inexperience got caught. remember he only had 1 half of football last year as a rookie and that was a ROOKIE mistake.
How many lumps you want Doc?
maybe
seems like a great practice squad guy to me, but maybe he unseats Wendling if we feel Davis and Stovall can pick up Wendling’s absence…
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Wendling will definitely stay
He got signed to a 3 year contract this offseason
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good point
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Guy was at least a backup if not starting Pro Bowl ST player
That is one of the few positions I feel actually means something if you get it.
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that 3 year contract means diddlysquat
unless there’s guaranteed bucks. he still has to make the team.
Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now
by Justan Oldfart on Aug 29, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
So many haters comin from everywhere now
Music to my ears. I’d rather have people talk crap about us than laugh in our faces.
+100000
They gotta give a shit to talk shit.
Which means we’re getting in people’s heads. Brady looked lost out there. Not many teams can say that, preseason or no.
The fact that this WAS a preseason game and we played this hard is a fantastic indicator of the season. Just wait till Fairley gets back.
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once he gets all set
that’s going to be downright scary! I’m serious about that!
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What did folks think of Titus?
I only remember him making that one catch but I know he was out there on other plays…hope he didn’t retweak that hammy too bad.
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I've kinda ignored it.
I don’t want to talk shit. I thought it was a bad pick, but he hasn’t been on the field to prove or disprove me. I’m just not gonna get my hopes up there.
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Mr. Bill's post-presser
audio: I’m kind of stunned by how much he is affected…
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They could run out a press conference from a loss 8 years ago.
It’s all the same thing: didn’t play well, weren’t coached well, we need to do a better job – I need to do a better job… all with the same tone.
He sounded pissed though, if you pick up on little cues.
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him and brady looked pissed the whole first half from what i saw
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by smelllyfingers on Aug 28, 2011 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing against the Patriots' organization
..but it’s cool in an odd way to see Brady & Bellichick frustrated at the losing end of a Detroit Lions rout.
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Thoughts from a drunk dude
I’m I’ll p[orlly post this on another thread, but I watched the game tonight with my buddies, and I’ve gotta say…we look fucking sweosme….stafrord was finding his tarets with ease throughout the who le first hlaf…so easily…i’m may be drinking too much koolaid, but this was awesome to watch dno joke.
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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Aug 28, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta be.
Stovall could be better than Titus Young in this system
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Having two 6'5" recievers and a 6'4" TE is sick
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two 6'5" TEs + Heller at 6'6"
that is sick!
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Wearing his number no less
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Yes
Williams had his shot. Stovall is huge and with Matty throwing to him you could send he and CJ into the corners of the endzone and leap for the td.
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Aug 28, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that should effectively spread their D out
and expose the middle – in which Staff is great at both the lobs and throwing darts up the seam…
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Stovall has outshone Williams
…Williams has had enough time to prove his worth, and really hasn’t.
I say cultivate Stovall into a solid WR option and take advantage of his size.
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Observations from the game
- What can you say about Stafford’s performance. It’s just too bad it’s preseason. He is making great decisions and throwing great accurate balls. It’s the kind of development you want to see from him. Hill and Stanton made good contributions. Hill was throwing it out there which was nice to see. Stanton had a few poor throws, made made some good ones as well. He still is that little bit inconsistent.
- The O-Line played a fairly solid game. Pressure wasn’t as noticeable, but Stafford did get hit twice, which still ain’t bad. Running lanes did occur, but not as frequently as I’d want.
- Decent day for the running backs. Didn’t get a lot of room to work with but Harrison, Brown and even Johnson had a few ok runs.
- Receivers all had a pretty good day. CJ had one great catch, but didn’t get targeted much. Burleson had that nasty drop in the endzone, but had a TD catch to make up for it. Grew also showed up early. Schef took it up late. Stovall once again made a case for his roster spot while Williams and Toone each made some plays.
- Defensive Line was very good. Brady wasn’t really comfortable when our first stringers were in and while we didn’t go crazy with sacks, we were making quite a few hits. Avril was very quick off the edge. Willie Young looked good also. Run defence also improved.
- Linebackers once again alluded my attention. Tulloch had the ass bat which was strange. Carp stood out with a nose for the ball.
- The sheer fact that Brady didn’t torch us, despite the pressure he was under is a good sign for the secondary. Silva has made a pretty good case for a backup safety spot.
It’s very hard not to get too optimistic about this performance. It’s preseason after all, but you can’t help but see the talent on the field and expect something big from this team this year. Now, I don’t think things will go that well all the time during the season, but if that performance is something we can expect at least some times, then wins will follow.
Stoked.
Spot. on.
Just one thing to addd. Aaron Brwon looked legit as shit against the Pats #1 defense. He was faster than everyont there, no matter who covered him. We need to use his speec more than e do.
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Aaron Brown needs to be coverted to WR
Plain and simple. Guy isn’t a running back, he’s a slot reciever.
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No doubt.
He’s better than D-will and is an awosme recie er.
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Aaron Brown made a strong case this game
You’re right, Aaron Brown made most of his plays this game through short catches and that’s where he can do the most damage with his speed, but I don’t know if we need him as a WR. With Stovall and Davis most likely in, I don’t know if we have room for him. The coaching staff evidently like Stefan Logan for specially designed plays. As a down to down guy, I don’t think he’s worth it.
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by Disassembly Line on Aug 28, 2011 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I tink ifs brown keeps lapying the awy he did here
he makes the team before Davis does.
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I have to agree with that, Brown and Logan seem to me to be essentially the same player
The biggest difference between them in my mind is that Logan is a much better return man. Brown might have an edge as a receiver, but I think Logan might be the better of the two running out of the backfield. Both fill essentially the same spots, but I don’t know if we have roster room for two utility players like that.
I think we do
They put Brown with the 1s for a reason, and he passed the test. They drafted him for a reason and it was his mental mistakes that put him in the doghouse. He hasn’t been making those, and se I believe they will keep their draft pick. Jim already assured Logan’s spot on the 53…
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He needs to stay at RB.
He has great hands, and could easily move to WR, but I get the feeling that Staff is going to be throwing a LOT of screen passes this year, and Brown is perfect in that role. I definitely expect him to line up at WR occasionally, but most of his snaps will come from RB.
About time you guys are coming around on Brown
What can BROWN do for you. I have been all over him for too long, and again he has something you just can’t teach:SPEED. He has it where guys like Harrison and Morris just don’t. you can teach all the other things, like how to pick up a blitzer, which is where 1 of Staffs hits came from a CB inside Blitz!.
How many lumps you want Doc?
agree spot on
- on CJ- I think he was just playing to be a able body on field that they needed to account for thats why he wasnt targeted as much. To make sure that he is healthy and injury free by season start. Also think that this preseason is about making teams start to fear Burleson and how much of a threat he is in this offense. Makin sure to take pressure of CJ early in season because now teams know for sure … u have to account for Nate.
- the O Line – w/ Backus back was a plus period. The way the Pats have played all preseason was ineffective. Unlike last week against he Browns we saw no Stafford being flushed to the sidelines w/ quick throw aways. Very good sign.
- run game- i saw holes but i didnt see the Backs really getting to the holes fast enough. On a few plays i saw Rb just run right into the line trying to push instead of going to the hole. On one play w/ Harrison where he got to the hole i notice he got his feet tripped up … something ive seen all preseason, bad footwork. this is one area all the Lions RB’s need to work on.
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by JaiGaiaAries on Aug 28, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
totally agree
especially on the RBs
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OMG
I just heard that the titans just traded Chris Johnson to the Lions for Jach Robinson, Tim Toone and Dave Rayner. and the Johnson agreed to league minimum salary!!… Sorry was a day dream i just had
The culture has changed
I felt the Lions seized the opportunity and won the game on defense in the Patriots opening drive.Yellow flags seemed to always hurt the Lions but when the Patriots made a mistake Detroit was their to capitalize on their mishap. Get used to it fans, the Lions smelt blood so they went in for the kill.
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I'm not sipping the kool aid but.....
Detroit is looking good boyz……
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Don't know if I'm the first person to say this...
but from what I’ve seen, I like Ricardo Silva over Erik Coleman.
who is Silva ?
the coaching staff is going to have a hell of a time when it comes to final roster spots.
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Erik Coleman is a lock.
We need good open field tacklers on the team plus Erik Coleman is relentless on special teams.I think it comes down to what you have to offer for this years roster spots.I duno this kid Silva really has a nose for the football.
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One thing different about Stafford...
besides his amazing accuracy, was the fact he is now lofting balls into the receivers hands on deep patterns instead of trying to throw lasers and getting picked off. Do you all remember his rookie year? That was a much talked about flaw of his.
This young man had worked hard and he is going to pick weak defenses apart this year. This is going to be a fun year!
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yes
really impressed by his touch. He’s obviously put in a lot of work – determined to be a leader and live up to the expectations put on him his whole life. I’m proud of him for sticking through such tough situations. I can only hope this continues and he gets the opportunity show how good he is when it really, truly counts (the P word)
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Not only can he throw,
but he showed strong leadership throughout the game. Even when he was out of the game he was into every play. They showed him along the sidelines paying attention to what the 2nd and 3rd line players were doing.
by Parrothead Mike on Aug 28, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldn't agree more with both of you...
he looks like a different QB out there. I see him breaking all kinds of Lions passing records before he is done. He grew from being so heavy-handed to a very strong finesse game.
Besides his obvious physical talents, he is reading the field and defenses masterfully. Watching him alone has upped my expectations of this team this year. I thought next year would be the big step, but they are going to tear up some weaker teams….one being Minnesota.
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D-Will, and Brown
Made cases for themselves interesting game 4 no doubt
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Williams knows he’s on the hotseat. Too little, too late I think. Should’ve been playing with urgency since he was lucky enough to get drafted.
Brown was impressive at times.
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Can Silva go on the Practice Squad?
Might be the best spot for him right now. From the Lions perspective, not Ricardo’s.
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So, who else do you drop?
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I think Fluellen is worth keeping for his versatility.
It will be interesting to see how Mayhew, Schwartz et al decide to go with those last few spots.
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by NorthLeft12 on Aug 28, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Fluellen injuried??
Saw them doing a tape job on one of his wrists/hands toward the end of the game. Hope it wasn’t serious.
by Parrothead Mike on Aug 28, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
They were taking off his club
He’s using it since he is playing with a cast.
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by Sean Yuille on Aug 28, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Vasher should go IMO
I like that he tackles, but the dude is clearly a step slow. He gives too much cushion most of the time…
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Silva is NOT worth that.
Why, because he got 2 picks in the preseason?
Get some tape on him before you start cutting guys who we know can play.
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I hope he makes it to the PS
would be a hell of a player to be able to call up in case of emergency, and we’d be able to support our sweet ass ST unit as it is (with Coleman and Wendling)
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I love the depth we have
we are actually having to cut good players that we want on our squad
All facets
Loved everything I saw last night. Lions were hitting on all cylinders. Yeah, would like a little more production out of the run game, but it didn’t hurt us really (27 first half points!). Now let’s just get to the regular season and really see where this team is at.
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thanks man, good to hear...
got banned after like 6 comments, world cup was on and tigers were playing the white sox, i commented soccer sucks, and so does ozzie, and that was it…lol
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OKAY, THATS IT! You are hereby banned from POD!!!
Where the hell is the Ban Hammer?!!?
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by NorthLeft12 on Aug 28, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
umm, 6 comments, and banned? no warning, or anything? that's friendly?
and for saying ozzie sucks? fuck you guys
by Captain_Morgan on Aug 28, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Just lay off soccer, dude.
Beats baseball all to hell, that’s for sure.
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by NorthLeft12 on Aug 28, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
6 comments is a lot? sorry to hurt your feelings, princess
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Okay, I am starting to get an idea what your problem is.
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Take your Internet spat elsewhere
Nobody here cares about it.
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by Sean Yuille on Aug 28, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
+20
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Rec'd.
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run game - work to do BUT
did anyone notice that there was only one play i think that ran behind a FB? And that play was for positive gains. i get that liny was and will be running a lot of single back sets, but clearly we will need a fb/hb for runs…i think we will run a ton of single back formations – some with trips wr, some with double te’s that can motion into backfield, i foresee a lot of draws out of this offense playing off the strength of the pass game
agree
like that we will spread the D out and with Stafford, the D has to respect the deep pass and all our weapons – that should create some creases here and there that could go for solid-big gains.
But I also think we need to man up sometimes with 2 TEs AND a FB (or Heller as the"F") and run it down there throats!
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probably been discussed but...
carp looked extremely solid
silva > wendling??? i think so
stanton = capable #2, move hill? wouldn’t be sad
dwill – sorry too little too late
vasher – who?
avril – pay the man already
staff – comeback poy!!
naw
Ian is too slow to and through the hole. I thought Harrison ran with a little more authority last night and looked a lot like MoMo IMO. That was a good sign he’s starting to get into a rhythm with this line. I think Harrison’s upside is higher than Ian’s…he’s just too slow IMO (kind of reminds me of Kevin Smith in the way he approaches the LOS)
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Johnson could very well be our between the tackles runner.
A lot younger and a hole lot cheaper than Morris! sorry Bell your way gone, and I just have not seen enough from Harrison to keep him. He wants to keep running outside, and that’s not what we need, we already have 2 Rb’s that can do that in Best/Brown. 3 if you count our Return specialist.
How many lumps you want Doc?
in all fairness for Harrison
if you had Sims, Peterman, and their pet angry umpaloompa blocking for you in the middle you’d want to run to the outside a lot too!
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and love the Schwartz comments coming out of half time
something along the lines of “we wanted to establish an identity – and we did that” absolutely did – thanks for changing the culture coach & Mayhew/co!!
Also, noting the play of special teams and Dierdorf mentioning using it as a strength – kick offs were short of touchbacks almost all night. with the depth we have all over the field, suddenly special teams is filled with quality players providing great coverage. why concede letting them out to the 20 when you can pin them at the 13-15yd line!! Awesomeness!!
Hanson's first kickoff was perfect
It landed right on the goal line. The returner couldn’t have downed it
totally agree
most offenses cannot go 85 yards on this defense!
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Carp looks like he’s picking up where he left off last season. Great to see.
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Aug 28, 2011 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My two boys had great games.
The two I pull for and want to see more playing time.
Carpenter is always around the ball. Part of that is playing behind the 2nd unit Dline he has more opportunity.
The 2nd is Aaron Brown. I will like so f-en pissed if they can’t find a spot on the team for this kid who makes plays if used in the right situations.
Just give get him the ball in a little space, that’s all it takes.
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by delusional on Aug 28, 2011 12:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
del, based on Durant's injury history, I think Carp will get his chance to play.
I would love to see him win the job outright.
I don’t think you have to worry about Brown. He looks like he has really picked up his play and he has the same skill set as Best [just not as quick/fast] which fits this offence perfectly. I would be shocked to see him get cut now.
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me too
Jahvid is too prone to injury and you want to be able to still have that element, seeing the offense is designed, partially with that kind of threat….
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Would we really be shocked?
I mean we have seen this same coaching staff keep Droptimus Prime for 2 years, and D-will(not) also make this roster.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Suh is held on almost every play
No calls, on one of the sacks a pats OLman had his helment on the inside edge, no call…
refs looking at Suh for hits on QB’s but ignore all the holds on Suh….
same i college, he would take over the game if they called holding on the lines ….so they let the holds slide, whats it going to be with 2 of these guys…hold or QB is pancaked sacked…ala corey.
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Saw that.
They called us on Wilfork but the Pats did the same to Suh.
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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Aug 28, 2011 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah, I saw a few holds
he’ll get the calls eventually though – all really good players end up getting the respect of the refs IMO (it could of been due to him going against Mankins)
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I thought the oline did a decent job in the run game
There were a few holes that I saw the RBs not take advantage of. I mean, it wasn’t great blocking by any means, but there was some push and not many runs were disrupted out of the gate…I think if MoMo was in there, he would have capitalized a bit more than Brown and Ian did. With that said, I did like that Brown chose to be authoritative between the tackles, keep his legs moving, and fall forward. He doesn’t have great vision, but at least he’s using his strength (his straight-ahead speed) to his advantage. By not waiting and dancing, he was able to get 2-3 yards on a couple runs…improvement over what we’ve seen before.
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Off topic, but:
whatever happened to Drew? I noticed he was taken off of the “Writer” list at the bottom of the page… did some shit go down while I was gone, or is it just because the dude never had time to actually write anything?
Lack of time
per a Sean post on another thread
Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now
by Justan Oldfart on Aug 28, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
Preason doesn't count
but one good thing to come from this offseason is that the hype and confidence seems to be fully intact. I believe that help the team continue to believe in itself and play with cohesion – expecting big things every Sunday…
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Hey, I know it means absolutely nothing
but I always like checking our stat rankings: they’re sweet right now!
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1st on offense
and middle of he pack in rushing…again, doesn’t mean squat, but I like it anyhow!
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also #3 against the run right now
haha
I like stats too much…
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haha
i was about to say that of course it means nothing like you said but if that number 3 goes to 13 i would be happy because that is an improvement haha. offense idk what to suspect but i would say they could be top 10.
Lions QBs through three games
Three preseason games mind u but wow!
66 of 100 = 66%completion
888yds =13.5yds/comp, 8.9yds/attempt
10TDs
1INT
Would not be sad if we pulled a mayhewing with some Hill as bait
by londonlion on Aug 28, 2011 2:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
BTW, I might also add that is on pace for 5,300yds and 60TDs...
BUT with little from run game that will be tough to maintain. None the less, when you also consider 6plays >20yds vs Pats (4 I think by the starters) offensive explosion and talent cannot be overlooked.
This type of potency will force teams to try and run more against us, feeding into a strengthened run. Loving it when a plan to build a team the right way shows promise of coming together!
by londonlion on Aug 28, 2011 2:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
5 London
5 plays of over 20 yards by our first string offense. NO defense can cover that much field, that was one of the things that made Favre so damn hard to stop, you had to cover 80 square yards with 7 guys, its just impossible.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Hill bored me to tears last night.
I like the guy but he’s so damned Vanilla sometimes.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
by Skylar on Aug 28, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
agreed, completely capable, isn't gonna lose any games for you but won't necessarily be a game changer who can win games for you
which i think is perfect trade bait for a few of those teams who aren’t having any luck at the position thus far – there are a few!
there are some stinkers out there!
As much as I like Hill, I’d be happy with Drew. He’s looked to be a better QB to back up Stafford because he plays a tad more like him and can make big plays…
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Bobby Carpenter leading the preseason in tackles at 18
he’s been a stud so far…
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Just out of curiousity
How many do Levy, Durant, and Tulloch have?
.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?
by delusional on Aug 28, 2011 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
5 for Levy; 6 for Durant; 7 for Tully
McDonald with 12 btw!
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agree
where was he last year? ha
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yeah
I’m excited. I think there’s a diamond between them, Heck, maybe even 2!
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And McDonald has been making the tough tackles in space.
I knew he was up there.
.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?
by delusional on Aug 28, 2011 4:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Stafford on 31 attempts has a Qb rating of 154
Only Ben Rothlesberger is close among others with more than 20 attempts at 146 (on 31 attempts).
Next is Aarron Rogers at 126 and then Matt Flynn at 121
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That's some serious company.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
evidently you need to have at least 35 attempts to be *qualified in NFL.com stats's ranking...
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figures!
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looks like it's Staff and Ben on most of the quality stats
Aarron Rogers is the only one with a higher completion percentage (79% vs 77%)
Only Matt and Ben are close to the 11 yards per pass
and Matt leads with 5 Tds, Ben with 4…
Means little, but when you’re in that company..it has to say a little , something right!?
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also tied for 2nd with a bunch of guys for number of 20+ yard plays at 7
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I'm glad he got pulled.
- is going to be a target due to being an offensive threat, and like it or not, his reputation for being fragile. Pats were in the rearview mirror all night. No sense in Stafford playing all game.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
agree
teams will get beat badly though when they try to blitz him a lot. Mark my words! I remember seeing a ranking where Aarron Rogers was ranked as the best QB when facing 5 or more rushers. Stafford was ranked 4th or 5th – as a rookie!
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best way is to disguise a blitz
play some zone with LBs and Safeties and then get pressure with the front 4 while covering the check downs…
haha.
That’s a lot to ask for a D and is how you have to beat any of the elite (Rogers, Brady, Manning – not that I’m putting Matt into that category or anything, I’m not crazy, yet!)
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relive the game
- Courtesy of Sandman (The Den)
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broken link
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speaking of
while searching the net i found links to dl the game in mp4 format, it’s a rar split however so you should be familiar with winrar. its in 4 parts and totals 1.6 gig. quality looks good. anyone intersted?
Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now
by Justan Oldfart on Aug 28, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell yeah
I want to scrutinize the O line and LBs a bit more.
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here ya go
http://www.filesonic.com/file/1779004061/nfl.2011.pre.week03.patriots.at.lions.400p.part1.rar
http://www.filesonic.com/file/1778999084/nfl.2011.pre.week03.patriots.at.lions.400p.part2.rar
http://www.filesonic.com/file/1779039974/nfl.2011.pre.week03.patriots.at.lions.400p.part3.rar
http://www.filesonic.com/file/1779028284/nfl.2011.pre.week03.patriots.at.lions.400p.part4.rar
you hafta dl one at a time and they make you wait 15 mins between dls unless you pay
Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now
by Justan Oldfart on Aug 28, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks man, will work on that tomorrow!
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Look at the 10:06 mark
Flu got such an incredible jump, Soldier was forced to assist on him. Opening a free run for Willie Young on Hoyer.
Just a think of beauty.
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yes it was!
I love how one guy sets up the other…that’s something that makes our line elite IMO
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Has Wright given up a completion yet?
someone has to have seen something!?
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They're definitely throwing away from him.
I'm a 7 WAR player in bed.
by TheLoneDavid on Aug 28, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh but he suck's don't you all remember
The great debate a few weeks ago with Rev/Tuff/Drew/Smurf all arguing over the issue of us needing to upgrade the CB position with Assante Samuals. Wright was screwed in Clev, he will be back as a TOP Cb this year only having to cover for such a short time. Houston/Berry/Mac will get targeted more than Wright. Sorry Profiler/Wayno, and all Phonz lovers but IF he makes this roster(he will) he is going to be in the dime package at best.
How many lumps you want Doc?
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