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Five Players That Shined In Lions' Preseason Win Over Patriots

There is a lot to be optimistic about after the Detroit Lions flattened the New England Patriots, 34-10. Detroit dominated play in both halves of the game and sent a strong message to other teams in the NFL. Specifically, five players made their presence known.

1. Cliff Avril - Avril is entering a contract year and is already playing like it. He was consistently beating his man to the outside and had two sacks and a forced fumble to show for it. He has a tendency to overrun the quarterback on some plays, but he's got a great motor and is never completely out of the play. On both of his sacks, he had run past the quarterback, but his persistence allowed him to get back in the play and take Tom Brady down.

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2. Aaron Brown - I have been a critic of Brown in the past, and I'm still not 100% convinced he'll make the team. But he did something on Saturday that he hadn't ever done in his NFL career: played well against a first-string defense. Brown only had 30 yards on eight carries (3.3 a pop), but proved his worth in the passing game, tallying 48 yards and a touchdown on four receptions.

I thought his best play was a seven-yard run on a first down in the middle of the second quarter. Detroit was backed up deep in their own zone and gave the ball to Brown up the middle. Brown was hit by a defensive lineman two yards past the line of scrimmage, but he put his head down and pushed forward for another 5-6 yards on the play. A play like that is crucial in getting teams out of their own end zone (unfortunately, the Lions still went three-and-out). Either way, it was nice to see Brown run successfully between the tackles, even if it was for just one play. He also made a great cut on a fourth-down play that looked to be going nowhere, extending the drive.  

3. Bobby Carpenter - There is nothing I like more on defense than a sure tackler and that's exactly what you get with Carpenter. His six tackles led the team on Saturday, but none were bigger than his 3rd and 1 stop early in the game. On the play, Carpenter goes unblocked, but how often have we seen a linebacker get into the backfield only to whiff or get blown over by a more powerful back? Carpenter wrapped up the ball-carrier before he hit the line of scrimmage and stopped him well short of the first down. He is a refreshingly-reliable linebacker and will be a great depth guy again this year. 

4. Jason Hanson - Much has been made this offseason of the battle between Dave Rayner and Hanson for the kicker spot. I don't see it. Don't get me wrong, Rayner was much more than I was expecting when he replaced Hanson last year, but Hanson is healthy now and as reliable as ever. Not only did he make a 46-yard field goal look as routine as an extra point, but he also dropped two kickoffs directly on the goal-line, forcing the Patriots to take it out on a shortened field. Meanwhile, Rayner launched a 49-yard field goal wide left. The only way Hanson loses this position battle is if he's injured.

5. Matthew Stafford - He's playing out of his frickin' mind right now. On Saturday he threw 16 passes and literally every single pass was exactly where it needed to be. Okay, maybe not the moon-ball he threw to Calvin while getting hit, but even that was completed and had no chance of getting intercepted. It still amazes me how much he has progressed with his vision and his touch in the past two years. And, yes, he even survived a pretty heavy hit. The sky is the limit with this kid. If Saturday's performance wasn't enough for you to go out and buy a Stafford jersey, you're either cheap or blind. 

These five players alone don't deserve all of the credit. I probably could've made a second list with five different players. Nate Burleson, Ndamukong Suh, Tony Scheffler and Shaun Hill all had impressive nights as well. At this point, it's hard to deny the talent and depth of this team.

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And why isn't Carpenter starting once again?

He has as many total tackles as the 3 starters combined.

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by delusional on Aug 29, 2011 6:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Schwartz and Gunther are the ones to answer that question.

I like Carpenter. He has improved a lot in his time here in Detroit. I still think BC will get extensive playing time during the regular season, and possibly win a starting spot. While we have not seen a lot from Tulloch or Durant yet, you have to admit that they have much better resumes than Carpenter and this is only the preseason.

Right now I am enjoying the depth we have at LB. Where are all the guys who were worried that we would not have enough linebackers to field a defence?

"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."

by NorthLeft12 on Aug 29, 2011 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

N.L.

We have the LB depth, I can’t dispute that, but I sure would like to see Carp get some playing time with the first unit this last preseason game just for familarity sake.

He’s been so very active and making plays which has been my big gripe with the starters and it’s showing up in the tackle totals of all 4.

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by delusional on Aug 29, 2011 8:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He well may yet

I would suppose that Jim/Gun are going to give the guys they brought in to start a certain amount of time to work it out. Ive no doubt that if they cant step it up, BC will be getting more and more time.

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 29, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's going to be interesting

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by delusional on Aug 29, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's going to be interesting to see what happens there.

I got into both Durant’s and Levy’s ass yesterday, to pick it up and start making plays……lol

Durant responded, Levy ignored me.

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by delusional on Aug 29, 2011 10:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

May I inquire as to what Durant said?

Im not sure why but for some reason it doesnt surprise me that Levy didnt answer you. Ive still got my fell eye on him. Something bothers me there but I sure cant put my finger on it…yet.

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 29, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

You keep watching him so I don't feel like the only looney one with these LB'ers.

Something isn’t right.

Anyway….first Durant didn’t understand what I was saying and sent back “????” He probably was looking for a pat on the back….lol

Then I told him unless he steps it up, that he should sit and Carp play.

He responded like “yeah whatever, thanks a lot”.

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by delusional on Aug 29, 2011 11:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow, Im underwhelmed

I seriously hope that one tackle and a pair of assists isnt what he considers a solid contribution to the team effort.

Oh, your not the only one my friend. Im seeing a pattern but I honestly am not sure what it means yet. Part of it really looks sorta, well…schemish, really.

Im finding it hard to believe that these guys just cant run through traffic. The dline is soaking up every bit of the olines attention. If the runner penetrates to the 2nd level the backers just arent there. Well, the 1st team LBs at any rate. The safeties seem to be making the initial stop and then the LB’s show up.

Your boy BC looks far and away the best player at the position right now, imo. He is in seek and destroy mode.

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 29, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then your seeing what I'm seeing.

The safeties and McDonald are first in and then one of them will put on a show of laying some wood, 2nd or 3rd in.

Both Durant and Tulloch had a nice stop each.

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by delusional on Aug 29, 2011 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes and Tulloch missed an easy pic 6

but he made a great play on the receiver, so all’s well as ends well.

I will submit that this is the one and only area of the team that I cant see any real change yet other than the very good open field tackling (which Im over the moon about, its always been a pet peeve of mine). Im starting to think that we will end up living with this to a certain extent. Insomuch as schematically, they may very well be willing to give up certain things in order to stop something else. Jim said in no uncertain terms the big plays have to stop. Other than Berrys fat bass act on that play action, we’ve been really good about keeping everything in front

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by YpsilantiJeff on Aug 29, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't let preseason fool you

Look at who the leading rusher in the NFL is right now

by ATL Lion on Aug 29, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

who?

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by rames on Aug 29, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kendall Hunter of SF

followed closely by Roy Helu of WAS.

I’m sure that will probably be true at the end of the regular season as well.

PS_ Carpenter is the top tackler in the NFL right now. Much like our record, I am happy he’s the best, but I take it with a grain of salt.

by ATL Lion on Aug 29, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you

He’s a capable backup and that is all.

by JFisch on Aug 30, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t agree more. This guy has been right on since we got him last year.

by NYLIONSFAN on Aug 29, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And AB...was used

Exactly how he should be used every game. 8, 10 touches with an effort to get him a little space.

I wish I could post a picture. I’m salmon fishing at the moment on Little Traverse Bay in northern Nichigan. The sun isn’t up yet and the sky is a big peach colored glow……just awesome!

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by delusional on Aug 29, 2011 6:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Got a home here.....

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by delusional on Aug 29, 2011 8:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm over by Bill's Farm Market out Mitchell rd.

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by delusional on Aug 29, 2011 8:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nice... I live in Boyne City.

My email is in my profile if you want to catch lunch sometime.

by CLF on Aug 29, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Red Mesa sometime...haven't been there in a few years.

Maybe in a couple of weeks. I come and I go between my “estate” here, and my money earning home base near the “D”,

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by delusional on Aug 29, 2011 3:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What boat are you on?

I am in TC. You need to stop in to Slabtown for a burger & fries for lunch. Get the Double Bypass and thank me later.

by Detroitfantc on Aug 29, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I seen the title and started to try to figure it out

I went Matt, Aaron, Defense, Nate and Harrison.

Cliff looked great but I’m not sure if he looked far better than any of the rest. The only mistake was made by a guy that got hurt early in his first game as a rookie. Other than that the entire D looked great in holding the mighy Pats to only 10 points. The same Patriots that in their 2 other preseason games put up 47 on Jacksonville and 31 on Tampa.

Silva made another great play on his pick. Willie looked good and of course there was Suh.

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by Enforcer on Aug 29, 2011 6:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I liked Harrison

I started thinking up my list too, but then I had a hard time leaving it at just 5, at which point I would like to say that was a good effort from just about everyone (lame I know).

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Game on!

by HughSkarr on Aug 29, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That the thing

You don’t take it to the Pats that bad and not have a great team effort.

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by Enforcer on Aug 29, 2011 9:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I still think that was a REVENGE game from last November for our Defense

And it really did show from snap 1, they came to beat the snot out of N.E. and that’s exactly what they did. Now I know no one on the team is going to come out and say that revenge was on their minds but the play dictated that it was on their minds.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 29, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lions getting some love...

It’s been fun to hear Herm Edwards, Mike Golic, Chris Carter, et al. giving the love to the Lions—especially after they dismantled the Patriots. Granted, it’s only Preseason (and we all remember 2008), but this is a GOOD team! Stafford looks great, and the D-Line is simply dominating (and that was without VandenBosch or Fairley)! Carpenter was a great pickup last year, and I like him as ‘depth’ in the Linebacker spot. Go Lions!

by Dadofsixj on Aug 29, 2011 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I know the preseason champs moniker we got in 2008

but I feel like these games are different. In 2008 we got killed in the first half of the games (when it was 1s on 1s) and came back in the second half to win by an inch. This year we are dominating our first halfs and also winning the second.

by ATL Lion on Aug 29, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

totally

people who reference that don’t even remember those games at all or how we went 0-16 (by having our QB and other top players miss all or most of the season)…I like how people use our success in the preseason as a way to discount us. So, basically what they’re really meaning is that Drew Stanton kicks the butt of inferior competition every year…whooopi! You’re right, Lions are bound to be bad because of that!

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by rames on Aug 29, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the BIG difference between the 2 seasons.

This year we have the highest rated QB after 3 games in Stafford at 153, and there are only 2 teams who have given up fewer points after 3 games. This team is tackling everything (outside of Delmas) and that team with Kitna at the helm even in pre-season could not tackle a wheel-chaired RB with 2 broke arms.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 29, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you i thought I was the only one noticing delmas’s lackluster play thus far.I know its only preseason but the dudes playing with extreme entitlement.I personally would like to see him idk tackle and get someone down.

by Michael21 on Aug 29, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean instead of what we have seen so far

Him launching himself at guys, missing the tackle because of it. Or him coming in late on the play and Jawing to some WR? Preditor has been the shittiest of all 4 of our back 4 starters so far in all 3 games.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 29, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes sir, I havent been impressed with anything he’s done so far.That includes the misguided missle tactic tackles he attempts.It reminds me of how every old lions used to tackle in the “dumper” days of the lions and i cant bare to watch it anymore.Clean it up or go home I dont care how much you run your mouth.

by Michael21 on Aug 29, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan Patrick said today he's picking them to make the playoffs....

as a Wildcard, as are a lot of other folks.

I’m still picking them to win the Division.

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by MusicCityDawg on Aug 29, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip Bayless

Was gushing so hard over SUH, you would think that he wanted Suh to be his next child’s father.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 29, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He called SUH

The best NON Qb in all of Football.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 29, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Silva?

He was a beast & possibly outplayin almost every Safety

by LTownDown on Aug 29, 2011 8:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm sure

saw him bite on play actions (just like Spievey and Coleman…)

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by rames on Aug 29, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a little more excusable coming from him

But making one interception doesn’t suddenly make me forget about him allowing a touchdown clean.

by Mavyrk on Aug 29, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was the other safety

coleman was the guy who got toasted.

by haywood on Aug 29, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silva was still culpable.

He bit on the play action too. Did he run up to the line of scrimmage? No. But he stood there like a statue with his legs frozen and then only started moving when Brady had already released the ball. You can’t just squat down in your zone like that. I actually wish he HAD started to bite on the run, at least his legs would have been moving at all; he got caught completely flat-footed and then tried to play catch up.

Like I said, given his inexperience and the fact that it wasn’t his coverage, it’s more excusable, but making an interception doesn’t absolve him from his duties over the top.

by Mavyrk on Aug 29, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i honestly didnt see that

maybe i was too busy trying to look for the other safety who was rushing the line at the time, who i had to be told was coleman.

i find it hard to put anything on him for not recognizing colemans mistake fast enough. it was 30% berry for biting on the play, 70% coleman for biting, swallowing, and shitting on the play.

by haywood on Aug 29, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

He froze

Like a deer in headlights. That’s what troubles me. Not the fact that he didn’t save the play like superman, but the fact that he didn’t know how to react to the situation until it was already out of his control speaks volumes about his readiness to step into a starting role if need be.

I’m not saying he’s terrible, but crowning him King Safety off an interception when he had some bad spots mitigating it is like calling DWill a great WR just because he managed to do a couple circus catches in week 1; it ignores the bad crap that happened earlier.

by Mavyrk on Aug 29, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont blame him for not reacting 'right' to that situation

because coleman was way out of position. it wasnt his original responsibility.
im not saying hes ‘king of all safeties’, i just think on that play hes getting way too much heat for that play, and take that play away, he was solid.

by haywood on Aug 29, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay

Take away his worst play and his best play, what was he? Completely forgettable depth, a camp body. You put them both in? An inconsistent young guy with some skills who has some upside.

Again, I don’t blame him for not reacting “right.” I blame him for not reacting AT ALL. I’d rather someone make a wrong decision in a preseason game (Coleman) than someone make no decision at all (Silva.) What if that was a run, and wasn’t a play action? We’d all be applauding Coleman for having a nose for the play and reacting well. Sure, the coaches would tear him up on tape for blowing up his assignment, but where would Silva be? Same place; flat footed and looking lost.

I want to see effort and attack. Silva was great in his int, but he’s still no starter as of yet.

by Mavyrk on Aug 29, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are blaming the Safeties?

Yeah they may be our last line of defense, but I saw BERRY as the guy who literally bit HARD on that play-action and Welker went walking right on by him.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 29, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Long passes

Are a fundamental breakdown of the entire back seven; the entire defense if it’s a long run.

You can’t just see the first mistake that was made and then think that absolves everyone else’s duties on down the chain, responsibility is shared; in part, by Silva.

That’s why the pre-season exists, to find this kind of thing out. But yes, Berry does get the Lion’s share of blame on that play. That wasn’t really what the conversation was about though.

by Mavyrk on Aug 29, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The original post in this chain

About Silva being one of the players that “shined.” All I’ve been saying is he had some blemishes out there.

by Mavyrk on Aug 29, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh that's what this is all about?

Well that’s a no brainer. Yeah he has made some plays but so has Mixom at the LB position, does not mean either of these guys are going to be starters.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 29, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

coleman bit harder

he was supposed to be over the top and was underneath at the time. berry, while still being a bad play, was slightly more excusable, because he was the under and thought he had help. coleman really cocked that play up.

by haywood on Aug 30, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

seriously, whos saying starter?

Silva was the closest one to welker after the catch, so to say he made no decision is just flat wrong. he was in the position he should have been. his partner decided to become the 4th linebacker. that he may not have recognized that sad fact quick enough, shouldnt be a knock on the guy. that isnt something that should be tolerated, so that he didnt react just right to it isnt bad. he did HIS job and took care of HIS responsibility, first. coleman abdicated his.

id rather have a S that does his job right, and give up a little on running plays, than a guy who does his own thing and leaves teammates out to dry and WRs in space.

by haywood on Aug 29, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I may be crazy

But i haven’t seen anything from delmas yet that would prove to me that silva cant give him a run for his money! silva looks great so far.

by Michael21 on Aug 29, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

More likely coleman obviously

by Michael21 on Aug 29, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

got my vote

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by Skylar on Aug 29, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was in Chicago at my in-laws

Watching the game during a family party. I wasn’t surprised to hear all of the compliments that they showered at the Lions. Every person there was a Bear fan, but they all knew come October 10th in Detroit, Chicago was going to have a really tough time stopping the Lions if this is how they play under the lights at home.

I used to get made fun of when I watched the Lions at my in-laws, but now they were nothing short of being in awe at hom good Stafford looked and that d-line. The d-line is what got the most attention, I think its safe to say that every team in our division especially Chicago saw how Tom Brady was visibly frustrated and rattled. I’ve never seen Brady that shook up and defintely not against the Lions and definitely not during preseason.

I know it didn’t count,but this tape will strike fear into every quarterback the d-line faces and every secondary that Stafford faces. We are going to be a good team this year, I can feel it.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Aug 29, 2011 9:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Aaron Brown played well

His ability to accelerate quickly is really impressive plus he has good top end speed. Not too many guys are quick and fast. I love the way Linehan uses him as a receiver out of the backfield or from the slot. He’s a match-up nightmare for LB’s who try to guard him one on one. IMO he’s a very similar player to J. Best. With some of the health concerns surrounding Best I think Brown has to make the squad.

One minor note…Stafford only threw 14 passes, not 16.

by Stones1981 on Aug 29, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Time to break out the stats

I can’t get it to show up right but, Matt Stafford leads the NFL in passing TD’s and is 2nd in rating to Derek Anderson (Anderson only threw 4 passes though, he doesn’t count). The only thing is, a minimum of 40 passes is required to qualify as a league leader.

Aaron Brown is tied for third in receptions. Nate Burleson is tied for 1st in receiving TD’s.

I know it’s only the preseason but we have much to be happy about looking to the regular season.

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by Quez81 on Aug 29, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

We also have the most points-98,with NE second with 88.

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by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Aug 29, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We also played the bunguls and the browns..check their stats lol.its the preseason were excited but even the bunguls might seem better in the regular season

by Michael21 on Aug 29, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Backups go S Hill was very impressive

Cant go through a season without QB depth, Hill gives confidence that if MS is out he can do the job

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by nubig10 on Aug 29, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Regarding Stafford:

I remember watching him at UGA. I had season tix as a grad student. (How could I not for $56 for the entire season??) I’ll be honest, I was a fence sitter on drafting him. I thought there were times at UGA when he made some pretty poor decisions and made some pretty errant throws. The fact is, since my wife was also a grad student and had tix as well, I decided to be happy about the Stafford pick because it eventually solidified my wife as a Lions fan. (I bought her a women’s Stafford jersey for her birthday and she actually was excited, not just the “oh thanks” BS! Though I admit, that might’ve been more about her having something to wear to the game)

However, my qualms about Stafford still remained. I was afraid my Lions were getting an, albeit talented, interception and incompletion machine. I was scared about his decision making. I was scared about his accuracy. I was just scared. Perhaps some of this was based in being a Lions fan for long enough to believe that no matter who we picked, that player would end up being terrible for some reason. (Thanks Millen)

But, I have completely come over to the Stafford camp. I’m excited for this kid and I’m flying my flag high! He has come leaps and bounds from where he was at UGA. He not only makes good reads and good decisions, his accuracy has improved as well! It’s hard, after a game like the Pats game, to not be drinking some kool-aid. Just watching that game you might get confused who had played less than a 16 games, and who was the HOF QB. I freakin’ love this kid. I love everything about him (except maybe the small crush my wife has on him) And I’m gonna take him on EVERY ONE of my fantasy teams because 2011 is the year of Matthew Stafford!
Go Lions!

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by UndaDawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I got Stafford in Round 11 of my fantasy league.

I think its safe to say that could be a value pick. Thanks be to Californians with the Raiders/Niners blinders.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

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by Leonuro on Aug 29, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

You lucky DOG!

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Aug 29, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn.

That better have been an 8 man or something.

by Mavyrk on Aug 29, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

12

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

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by Leonuro on Aug 29, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shoot, Leonuro! Value, indeed.

You’re making me feel bad for “reaching” for him in the 6th! haha

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by UndaDawg on Aug 29, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, since most of the guys in my league are from CA or TX

I knew I could sleep all day on Stafford…wait, that doesn’t sound right. Also, those TX Cowboy lovers took Dez and Miles and left CJ81 on the board for me. Looks like this’ll be my second straight points and superbowl sweep this year.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Aug 29, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh hell, yeah!

Staff to CJ for 12 fantasy points, you Cali bitches!!

Good luck, Leonuro.

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by UndaDawg on Aug 29, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't need luck.

Stafford…CJ81…Andre Johnson…Reggie Wayne…Welker

I should be able to sit everyone else and win

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

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by Leonuro on Aug 29, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of what Staff didn't accomplish at UGA can be laid at the feet of Bobo...

CMR, Willie Martinez, and the trim on Milledge Ave. Staff’s talent was beyond what Bobo knew to do with him. I think Bobo actually told him to just go out a sling it if he saw something that looked good.

Of course we played from behind often enough in big games due to our shitty pass coverage that Staff was at times trying to put the game on his shoulders and dig us out.

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by MusicCityDawg on Aug 29, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you're saying about Bobo, but...

Can’t blame Bobo when Stafford’s throwing into double and triple coverage when Massoquoi’s WIDE OPEN. (saw that more than a few times) Not that you don’t have a good point though, MCD. I certainly lost some hair because of Bobo.

The point here is that Stafford is MUCH better than he was coming out of college. And all those who wanted Matthew to sit for a year or two and learn the offense, got their wish. (Remember the “Culpepper should start before Stafford” arguments? haha.) It can be argued that Stafford’s injuries might actually be better for him in the long run.

"Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live it's whole life believing that it is stupid"
-Albert Einstein

by UndaDawg on Aug 29, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah kinda gave him a “chip on his shoulder”..so to speak

by Michael21 on Aug 29, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol.

"Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live it's whole life believing that it is stupid"
-Albert Einstein

by UndaDawg on Aug 29, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was commenting to someone the other day that Staff's...

bulking up over the offseason seems to have made him more accurate. That game against the Pats was just freakish. I have NEVER seen Staff throw that well that consistently. Not a single pass was off the mark.

I think you are correct in that Staff’s early injury issue may just be a huge blessing in disguise.

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" - Mike Tyson

"PUSH BACK. Zebras are NOT the Kings of the Jungle." - MusicCityDawg

by MusicCityDawg on Aug 30, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

SO:

Anybody still want to hoot and holler about LoJack being better then Avril?

by motown313 on Aug 29, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely not!!!

Football isn't a contact sport; it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport.--Vince Lombardi

by Quez81 on Aug 29, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with those selections

Stafford’s game was unbelievable, while Carp showed up quite a lot.

by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 30, 2011 6:13 AM EDT reply actions  

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