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Detroit Lions Dismantle Kansas City Chiefs For 48-3 Victory

The Detroit Lions didn't just beat the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday, the Lions absolutely demolished them en route to a 48-3 victory and the most lopsided regular season win in Lions history. Perhaps the most amazing thing is that the Lions didn't even play all that well in the first quarter. It took them some time to start consistently playing well on both sides of the ball. Once they took their play to another level, the Chiefs didn't stand a chance and were blown out of the stadium.

Early on, the Lions were on top in this game thanks in large part to mistakes by the Chiefs. On the first drive of the game, for example, Matthew Stafford threw a bad pass to avoid a sack and Kansas City's Jon McGraw intercepted the ball. He immediately fumbled it right back to the Lions, giving Detroit possession and a fresh set of downs. On the very next play, Kansas City picked up a personal foul, and they received a flag for roughing the passer on the play after that. Suddenly the Lions were on the KC 15, and they scored on a pass from Stafford to Calvin Johnson.

Star-divide

The Chiefs offense came out strong by punching the Lions' rush defense in the mouth on their first drive. Dexter McCluster got the drive started with 24 yards. The next two plays went for eight yards by Thomas Jones and 24 more yards by Jamaal Charles. The Lions couldn't seem to stop the Chiefs' rushing attack, but they did finally stand tough and bring up fourth down. The Chiefs settled for a 33-yard field goal, and more importantly, they lost Charles to an injury on third down. He lunged for the first down and came down on the yard marker awkwardly before rolling into Roary, the Lions mascot. It looked like Charles hurt his knee when he landed, and he was out the rest of the game after being carted off the field.

The Lions got the ball back and quickly went three and out. This would become a common occurrence for the next couple of drives, as the offense just couldn't move the ball. The Chiefs offense once again had success moving the ball when they got it back, but luckily for Detroit, Ryan Succop pushed a 44-yard field goal attempt wide left. No damage was done on the drive, and after this possession the Lions defense really started playing well.

The Lions and Chiefs traded punts for the rest of the first quarter and the first half of the second quarter. The Lions finally got something going again on offense with a two-play drive that began at the KC 45-yard line. Stafford completed a nine-yard pass to Nate Burleson, and he followed that up with a 36-yard completion to Tony Scheffler for a touchdown. Scheffler celebrated by pretending to create a fire and smoke signals after his second touchdown in as many weeks.

This game got out of hand so quickly thanks to six turnovers by the Chiefs. One of those turnovers was an interception by Chris Houston on a drive that began with a 45-yard pass to Dwayne Bowe. The Chiefs looked to be in business, but Houston picked off Matt Cassel and gave the Lions a chance to add to their lead before halftime.

Although the Lions did add some points on their next drive, they could have gotten more than a 51-yard field goal by Jason Hanson had it not been for some untimely penalties. A chop block negated a 47-yard pass to Burleson, and a big pass to Johnson that would have put the Lions close to the end zone was negated because of a holding penalty. A great pass and catch to Titus Young for 47 yards dug the Lions out of the hole created by the first penalty, but they only managed to get a field goal out of the drive.

This Lions also only managed to get a field goal after Cassel was intercepted by Amari Spievey on the next Chiefs possession. The Lions only had 30 seconds to work with, and they ended up going into halftime with a 20-3 lead after a 28-yard field goal by Hanson.

The first three drives of the second half ended in punts. One of those punts was by the Lions after they went three and out. When they got the ball back after another Chiefs punt, there was no three and out. Detroit moved down the field with a 27-yard pass to Burleson and a 35-yard strike to Jahvid Best, and they eventually found themselves at the one-yard line. It was third and goal for Detroit, and Stafford threw in the direction of Johnson, who had a rare drop. On fourth and goal the Lions went in Johnson's direction again, and this time he caught the pass from Stafford for a touchdown.

The Lions started to pour it on as the third quarter came to an end and the fourth quarter began. On the one and only play of the next drive for the Chiefs, Cassel was sacked by Kyle Vanden Bosch. The ball popped loose and Stephen Tulloch picked it up for the Lions. Five plays later, the Lions scored on a nine-yard pass from Stafford to Best.

The Lions continued to pour it on when McCluster fumbled on the second play of Kansas City's next drive. The ball was punched out by Eric Wright and Cliff Avril eventually fell on it after Louis Delmas failed to pick it up a couple of times. This time around the Lions needed six plays to get into the end zone, but once again it was Best scoring a touchdown from the Lions. He jumped over the pile from the one-yard line to put the Lions on top by a score of 41-3.

Wright created another turnover for the Lions on the ensuing drive. This time he intercepted a pass by Cassel at the KC 34. The Lions proceeded to take Stafford and a number of other starters out, giving the backups a chance to play. The end result was the same even without the starters, as Keiland Williams capped off the drive with a one-yard touchdown run on fourth and goal. The TD run was made possible by Shaun Hill finding Young for 28 yards on third down earlier in the drive.

After trading punts to run out the rest of the fourth quarter, the clock hit triple zeroes and the Lions left the field with an impressive 48-3 victory. Before time expired, Lions players gave defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham a Gatorade shower in celebration of the win against his former team and the team that accused the Lions of tampering. To say the least, it was a satisfying win all-around, especially for Cunningham.

The celebration over this victory won't last long, because the Lions will soon have to turn their attention to next week's game against the Minnesota Vikings. Although the Vikings are 0-2, they lost by only four points to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday and only seven points last week to the San Diego Chargers. The Lions haven't won at the Metrodome since 1997, so they will have to keep it rolling next week to end their losing streak in Minnesota and pick up their third straight win to start the season.

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So happy

Chiefs fans were talking a lot of shit. Even had a fan post on their site called " the lions?? REALLY??!"

Glad our team put the condescending d*ck down who wrote that.

When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.

by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 18, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

There were a lot of classy fans over at AP also.

Yes that one guy put up that fan post, but overall KC fans gave Detroit respect.

"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching

by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 18, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Really good group of folk. I honestly feel bad for them. The wilderness is so very lonely. And they are totally lost

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know.

That’s why I said “put the condescending dick down who wrote that” I wasn’t generalizing the entire fan base

When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.

by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 18, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, my mistake

I read "fans" as plural not singular

"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching

by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 18, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was meant to be plural.

You’d be naive to think only one fan was talking smack about the lions. My point was that I did not diss or generalize the entire Chiefs fan base. The only person I insulted and called a dick was the fanpost author.

When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.

by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 18, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I apologize for my naivety

I was under the assumption

Chiefs fans were talking a lot of shit.
was a generalization

"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching

by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 18, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you slow?

So you’re trying to argue the fact that only one Chief’s fan was talking smack about the lions?

When I said I wasn’t generalizing their entire fanbase it was strictly that just because one guy is a dick, doesn’t mean they all are. However, I don’t think it’s a generalization to say Chiefs fans were talking a lot of shit. A lot of them were, and for myself I was calling it like I see it.

When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.

by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 18, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must be slow because

I said I was sorry, I said I apologize , what more do you want me to do? Perhaps we can both agree you are right and I am wrong.

"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching

by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 18, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, by and large the Arrowhead Pride group has been a respectful group

I drafted for the Chiefs in the 2010 Pride of Detroit Mock Draft. The Chiefs fans at Arrowhead Pride were a lot of help and very respectful. Most of the disrespectful comments you may have read on that 1 post were by relatively newer posters. Upamtn, who was one of our main defenders in that thread, is a longtime regular member of AP and is more representative of the fine group of people over at Arrowhead Pride. AP is a classy site with classy people. I wish the Chiefs well the rest of the year. I hope Jamaal charles is ok. I have faith that Scott Pioli will build upon the good pieces that are already in place in KC.

Yes, a really good group of folk.

by GRLion on Sep 18, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also.....

Upamtn was one of those who was the most help to me during the 2010 POD Mock Draft. He had a lot of great Chiefs info and advice. I appreciated that.

by GRLion on Sep 18, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree GRL, the AP site is home to the most knowledgeable and devoted fans in the NFL.

They are one of my daily stops around the NFL team sites on SB Nation.

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by NorthLeft12 on Sep 18, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did it NL.

You can’t believe how happy I am with this game.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Sep 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only want to say,

I’M SO HAPPY! Just going to lay back and enjoy this. No predictions, no talk about the Queens yetl I’M SO HAPPY!

Expectations don't produce!

by 2manyears on Sep 18, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!

by BBlades on Sep 18, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What we have is a huge win

but also have it so that we can find things to improve upon and thats what the coaching staff is going to look at.

Great defense in the second half but that was us knowing they had to pass to catch up

by Liontotheextreme on Sep 18, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

48 points! hell yeah!

keep it goin’ and get pumped – you guys have a helluva team brewin’
(what a good sunday – Titans beat the shit out the vile ratbirds AND the lions run rampant!)

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by oilertitan on Sep 18, 2011 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Why did that game seem a little phony to me ?

I guess I haven’t seen a Lions beat down like that in years -

The Chief’s also seem snake bit this year big time – all the injuries and turnovers – if that safety hangs on to that INT early – it’s a pick-six going the other way and the game might go much differently.

So O.K. were 2-0 but let’s not get too carried away -

by MagiC on Sep 18, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

agree

sloppy for half the game…but our upside is special!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sloppy for A QUARTER

Please stop saying a half. It was a quarter of football. It played out exactly like Rams last year. Rough start in the first Q, start to pull away in the second, and blow it wide open in the second half.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

we were still pumping out 3 and outs in the 2nd qtr

I won’t say we stated playing up to our level until later…

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Went hawg wild on em when they started handing us the ball

A very good sign. We were murderous on converting turnovers. Such an important stat. I couldnt be more pleased

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

100% 3 and out conversion is just not possible.

Like I said, we started to pull away in the second and blew it wide open in the second half. To call the second Q rough is absurd. The first Q was rough.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was nothing sloppy about the Defense,

after the first quarter. So it wasn’t entirely sloppy. I believe that sloppy is a special word, used for special people and special occasions. “Sloppy after the first” is overuse of this special word.

NO HOMO!!!!!!!

by FMFDOC8404 on Sep 18, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can dwell on the sloppy, but I choose to now look at the positive aspect of the Lions making adjustments to stop the run.

The back 4/5 played just as fantastic game as possible. Big-time props to them. They made plays all over the field. What they provide in run support is a complete surprise to me. I believe their covering for a lot of LB over pursuits, but the whole D made adjustments to stop KC cold. No way was Cassel ever going to pass KC back into the game.

Stafford while effective, showed his inexperience today. It’s all in the learning process, and that kid is as smart as they come, he’ll learn from it.

Great game by all of the skill position players, especially my boy Titus. Great first home game for a kid that has hands made of Gorilla Glue.

It sure did look to me like they were able to run behind Hilliard.Correct me if I’m wrong. I’m not sure Gos even played very much. I didn’t DVR it so I can’t verify.

Overall this verified to me the complete 360 of the Detroit Lions. What I have been waiting for, for 10 years or more has been fulfilled, and now it’s now gaining experience as a team in big game situations which are on the horizon.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Sep 18, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gorilla Glue is much better

Than the non-stick pans that we’ve been working with, that’s for sure.

NO HOMO!!!!!!!

by FMFDOC8404 on Sep 19, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what is going to be the Vegas line next week @ Minnesota?

Vikings +3?

"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching

by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 18, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it will be around Vikings +5.5

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by Elfuego51 on Sep 18, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

I was thinking 1997 was a long time ago.

"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching

by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 18, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stoked about Titus!

With him starting to click, I just don’t know how you stop us other than rattle Stafford into bad plays (which he does) – but I still don’t see how you hold down the offense any better than KC did for much of the game…

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Lions also won by 45 points in the 1957 NFL Championship game (59-14 over the Browns)

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Sep 18, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

cool!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we really need to keep winning these early games, because there are 5 tough games in the last 6

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Sep 18, 2011 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Drinking the cool-aid!

It’s gonna be pretty tough for us not to start getting way over optimistic around here next week.

by NewPoster on Sep 18, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a good start to the season!

Bodes well for our wildcard chances, especially if we can keep this momentum for another couple weeks. Here’s another victory will a lot of teaching to be done in the film room. Happy to see so many sweet plays made on both O and D. That was special and shows what we’re capable of.

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

'9ers up 7 at the half

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by Grahamophone on Sep 18, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Chargers out of it already!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol don't say that man. I need Rivers to have a big game for ff.

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by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 18, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they're out of the game, that's better for you.

they’re all about pass, pass, pass then.

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by GhostManOnThird on Sep 18, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh he will!

with them down like this. He’ll be throwing it all 2nd half!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha,

I have Rivers and Stafford on my team. I started Stafford.

NO HOMO!!!!!!!

by FMFDOC8404 on Sep 18, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

twitter

is saying charles has acl and prob dine for year

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by yooperlionfan on Sep 18, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

oh shite!

that sucks if true!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I called it during the game thread

The way his knee buckled and his lower leg wiggled after he took that big step had ACL or MCL written all over it. That just flat out sucks for them.

If there is one good thing about it happening now. It is only week 2, he will have plenty of time to get cut and heal properly before next season. No rushing the physical therapy to have him back in time.

Best of luck Charles!

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

it turns out he slipped on the first down marker set on the sideline

damn fluky play.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK

I have him in EvilSmurf’s league.

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by ZWC11 on Sep 18, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fantasy Football aside,

I hate seeing players go down with injuries. Hopefully he can comeback and in the meantime, hopefully somebody can capitalize on the opportunity.

NO HOMO!!!!!!!

by FMFDOC8404 on Sep 18, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamaal Charles

Torn ACL, getting an MRI on Monday to confirm. Looks to be done for the season, will likely be on IR within the next day or two.

My heart goes out to Chiefs nation, this blows.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

worst luck ever!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely horrible for them.

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by GhostManOnThird on Sep 18, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

we know

how this feels, i take no joy in their suffering

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by yooperlionfan on Sep 18, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Never want to hear those sorta things, especially about a player of his caliber.

by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 18, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go San Fran!

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by GhostManOnThird on Sep 18, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Kitnas in

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

why is he in?

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe Romo was benched for ineffectiveness

I say that only because they havent said a word other than Kitnas in

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im wrong, he's hurt

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Romo has a broken collar bone!

My fantasy team just picked up a starter QB.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's some cool info

Damn, when we’re hot, we’re hot. Thanks for the post.

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by LionTarHeel on Sep 18, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont know, looked up and Kitnas in

so far Ive only heard them say “In for”

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heard

rib injury

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by yooperlionfan on Sep 18, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.
Dallas QB Tony Romo injured his ribs in the first half of Sunday’s game in San Francisco. He jogged out of the locker room late and put his helmet on to take the field for the team’s first possession of the second half. That didn’t happen as Jon Kitna was under center and Romo was on the sideline with trainers. He would go back to the locker room, showing his frustration on the way. He completed 8 of his 17 passes for 144 yards and a touchdown in the first half.

He’ll probably play next week, unless he actually broke some ribs.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not one bit suprised

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by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Sep 18, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG

My wife is outta her mind! 13-3. Lions shred her Pats in the superbowl. I’ll smoke what she has in her pipe.

by seabeeruss on Sep 18, 2011 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

HaHa

Bless her heart. Hey, she knows a good team when she sees one.

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by LionTarHeel on Sep 18, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes!!!!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm seriously just not used to this whole "we have a good football team"

every time the announcer said “The Lions are for real!” I’m like, “OMG, this is SURreal”

by Wadeledge on Sep 18, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

No No No...

This is SUH-real

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by ZWC11 on Sep 18, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can understand
  1. rushing team in the league. Silver lining is we won’t face a ZBS like that again (I don’t think Brocs still run it and Raiders is more a power scheme right!?).

But yes, that did suck donkey balls! It was clearly the outside stretch that had us in fits…we seem to be quite solid up the middle/against more power schemes…

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were running misdirection plays a lot while I was watching.

I only saw the 2nd & 3rd quarters after Charles was out, but the Lions predictably adjusted to the counter-trap action about halfway through the second quarter. Given how good the front line is I would expect the Lions will see a lot of this kind of thing.

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our defense is not set up to be strong against the run

It is just that simple. We are set up to be a pass stopping defense and run defense will be our weakness all season long.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't agree with that

—look what the Lions did to TB. I think they are better set up for stopping a traditional power-run game versus counters, traps, reverses, all that stuff, BUT they did adjust, no? And when they did they just mauled the Chiefs.

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did not stop them running

They stopped themselves when they got too far down.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

They started passing the ball more

Like I said, they stopped running.

We did not stop or even contain their run game. 5.2 yards a rush. That is atrocious.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we don't get any credit for putting them that far down?

It works for the Packers, Patriots, and plenty of other teams. It’s a passing league, when you go up against a running team you pass, put points up, and then take them out of their element and win. We do that against Minnesota next week, what’s the problem?

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

It was not our D that stopped them.

KC is not a playoff team, when we play real playoff teams we can not afford to get gashed like that for over 5 yards a carry.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

We gave up 5.2 a carry

and won by 6 touchdowns walking away. We’re not happy?

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am thrilled with the win because that is all that counts

That said, KC is not a playoff quality team and neither is TB. We can not afford to give up yards like that on the ground or expect 6 turnovers from real playoff contenders.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

well if we force them into a scenario where they cant run well we wont have to worry about it

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by Gyorick on Sep 18, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

how often do you really expect that to happen against

quality playoff caliber teams?

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunno, We'll find out

Ive seen plenty of playoff teams lose lots of TOs

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont get me wrong here

I love watching our team impose our will upon another team like we did today. We took them out of their game plan and forced them to throw the ball. I just do not expect that to happen with any sort of regularity.

Next week we will be facing a real genuine test in Minny. They can pound the ball and their defense is better than most people realize. They are slowly getting better QB play (to be expected) and they are go0ing to be hungry at home for that first win. I see next weeks game as a real measuring stick.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds good with me bro i just enjoy the winning and leave the worrying for the coaches and players...

we definately need to be better against the run… no doubt

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by Gyorick on Sep 18, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this rate.

Every week is going to be the real measuring stick until we get blown out.

Yes, I do expect us to force running teams to abandon the run with regularity. We just played the best all-around running team in the league, who even with JC down are really good at pounding the rock, and we took them out of it and blew the doors open.

If your team is a run-first offense, expect to lose to the “Death Star.”

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They handed the game to us on a silver platter

Granted, we took advantage of their mass turnovers and that is what good teams too.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, you got that right

We will find out many things next week. Regardless of what happened the first two weeks, Minny will look at us as the Same ol Lions till we can beat them there. They arent afraid of us, yet.

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like our odds in that game

They are going to have to lean on AP a ton to keep the game close. I am not convinced of their QB play yet.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

However its their defense and that friggin #69 that concerns me. He’s got the the juju on Jeff and we always seem so unsettled there

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unsettled

That makes me think of something else too. Staff has had two slowish starts in a row now. I would really like to see him come out throwing lawn darts from the jump this next week.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be nice...lol

Yeah the young man does seem to have the colliwobbles the first couple of series. I think its still a little big for him, honestly. But, the only way to get past that is getting out there and fighting through it

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I am not too worried. He really has not started that many NFL games yet. It could well be butterflies.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bucs came from behind to win in that miserable little pup tent, they're pretty good

But if we only get 3 TO’s do we only win by 21?…lol…sorry, my bad. I hear you, but I remained unconvinced that just because we cant stop em in the 1st doesnt mean we cant slow em down in the 2nd and stop em by the 3rd. Which looks to be the pattern going back 6 games. 6 wins doing it this way works for me

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 18, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think many teams run like that

The chiefs were hurting us with their run style. McCluster and Charles for 20 yard gains to start was looking shaky.

The defense looked improved in the second half, but then again Charles was out. Still was a great experience for our guys to learn how to deal with this type of offense.

I feel we have a great run defense and I must say it didn’t disappoint me today.

by Northern Lite on Sep 18, 2011 11:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They hit us with misdirections and off-tackle

Not many teams run off-tackle and they were really committed to going laterally. We made adjustments and fared much better as the game went on, on all sides of the ball.

Again, I repeat, our D doesn’t need to stop rushing yards. Our D needs to stop rushing touchdowns (we did!) until our O has enough cushion that our D can go back to playing its strength. It’s a passing league, and our scheme may be weak against rushing teams pre-adjustment, but no scheme is perfect and we seem to be making adjustments well.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

They put up a blue print on how to run against us

with those misdirections and off tackle plays. You better believe other teams will see how well they did with those type of plays and find ways themselves to exploit it.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes and no

no other team we play uses that distict ZBS…so no. But yes, they will be attacking the B and C gaps..

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

with misdirections and such that is...

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

and we are exposed on tape so we probably wont do anything to work on it

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by Gyorick on Sep 18, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course we will try

but as I have been saying for weeks. We have weaknesses against the run that are built into our defensive scheme. Those weaknesses allow us to be stronger against the pass.

Do you think we are going to alter that scheme to rectify those weaknesses?

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah but i think we were worse today than what we are for real

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by Gyorick on Sep 18, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other teams aren't BUILT to do that.

KC is. Other teams can emulate the idea, but you can’t just say “okay, we’re going to run off-tackle and wreck the Lions” without the personnel and the experience of doing it, you’re not exactly going to light the world on fire.

I mean, in pre-season week 3 we laid out the blue-print on how to get at the Pats, with a four man pressure and sticky coverage. That doesn’t mean every team in the league is suddenly equipped to be able to do that.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

they were #1 for a reason!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not talking about just what KC did against us.

Hell man, TB put 126 yards on the ground on us.

If you want to cover your eyes, plug your ears and scream NA NA NA all day long, fine. I have watched to real games where we looked less than average against the run and I am worried about it.

Compound that with the fact that we are going against the most consistent pounding RB in the league. Yeah, I am concerned.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm concerned.

But I’m concerned because we’re going up against a solid, underrated defense, one of the elite players in the league, and a proven franchise QB at their home.

I’m not concerned because we looked shaky in the first quarter against the run. I think we did a good job making adjustments, and I feel strongly in our offense’s ability to put up a cushion that takes an emphasis off the run. Every unit can’t be perfect against everything. It’s exciting to finally have a team that works synergistically on O and D.

We have some execution issues that need to be tightened up, but me not being alarmed about our run D right now is most certainly not covering my eyes, plugging my ears, and screaming NA NA NA.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

KC rushing

Here are the KC rushing numbers from ESPN play-by-play:, http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=310918008

1st qtr—11 rushes, 98 yards
2nd qtr—6 rushes for 21 yards
3rd qtr—6 rushes for 22 yards
4th quarter—6 rushes for 16 yards

1st qtr: rushes for 24, 14, 12 (3x)
After the first qtr:
18 rushes for 59 yards, 3.27 ypp, two runs longer than 5 yards (12 and 8, separate possessions)

It certainly helped that Charles was out and the Chiefs no longer really had anyone to run between the tackles, but there is no doubt that the Lions did shut down the run after the 1st. Part of the reason the Lions got up so far at the half was that the Chiefs could neither hold onto nor move the the ball in the 2nd quarter.

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

BTW...

Tampa ran the ball for 56 yards last week, not 100-whatever was listed upthread.

I don’t think the Lions are in a bad way against the run. Maybe not the best in the league, but so far so good.

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great breakdown!!!!!!!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was 126 yards given up last week

Not 56.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohhhh

got that shit flipped. Damn

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm, that 126 was OUR ruhing stats!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lions ran for 126

I think the bucs had 59 or something like that.

by ZofShadows on Sep 18, 2011 8:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They did stop the run, I looked it up--

2nd quarter KC ran the ball six times for 21 yards. Longest run = five yards.
3rd quarter they ran it 6 times for 22 yards. Longest run = 12 yards.

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm stunned they didn't keep running it even when they were down 3/4 TDs.

3 run plays seemed pretty good for at least 10 yards each time out for them.

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by Elfuego51 on Sep 18, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

No! No!

Man, go look at the play-by-play on ESPN—you guys have computers, duh! The Chiefs only stopped trying to run after they got down 34-3. The Lions shut down the between the start of the second quarter and the rest of the game.

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The run stopped being effective when Charles went out is what you are saying

Great tackle by the sideline first down marker.

What a fluky injury. Sucks to be a KC fan this year.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would acknowledge that was part of it--

but the Chiefs continued to rip off some big runs after Charles went out. I would like to hear what Schwartz has to say about this, should anyone ask, but I think the the telltale play was the Chiefs’ third and nine from their won ten or whatever with the score 14-3 in the second. They tried a counter with McCluster and not one Lions player went for it—they all read counter and exposed McCluster with the two tackles out in space versus eight Detroit defenders.

At that point KC had nothing left because Cassel is not good enough to win it by himself. Lions owned the Chiefs from that series on, including against the run.

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't think so

agree that there i a scheme weakness against the run, but I think we’re quite strong up the middle and will do well against a number of our matchups this season. But we will also most likely be exposed in some of our games like vs. Oakland…

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have to be prepared to read their keys

because teams will try to use their aggressiveness against them. Screen passes could cause a lot of trouble.

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Linebackers

we signed this season would seem to disagree with this statement. Both Tulloch and Durant excel in run defense and are marginal in pass defense.

Our D-line is very versatile. While our starters may be better in pass defense, Hill and Fluellen are better run blockers.

I’d say we have the personnel to do either well.

by Big Z in Orlando on Sep 19, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

San Francisco back on top

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by Grahamophone on Sep 18, 2011 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I want to hear some guesses as to what kind of celebrations Sheffler will be doing the rest of this year

—as in, do the Lions play Cleveland, what will he do? How about for Green Bay or Minnesota?
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by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

next week = spear!

riding horses in week 4…maybe superbowl shuffle for MNF!!!!!!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cleveland

I bet he goes “doggy style” in that celebration.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Still want to know what he does for Green Bay. Could be really ugly.

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lambeau Leap into his own team-mates?

Would be funny. Would probably wind up injuring someone, though.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmao

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was afraid Best was going to get hurt on that td that made it 41-3.

Sheffeler’s smoke signals should say “Don’t be jumpin’ on Jahvid!”

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

he said he was tentative on going up on that one...

I can understand why!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No joke

Last time he did he was flipped over and landed on his head. One of the scariest things Ive ever seen.

by John Matkin on Sep 18, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was more worried about how one of the OLs tackled him in celebration

—shit, the Chiefs had given up by that point. On the play itself Best landed on air.

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've got me on both of those.

Unless Scheffler winds up figuring out some way to pantomime a hurricane.

… Too soon?

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

Saints, maybe a marching band.
9ers, leave the stadium early

by John Matkin on Sep 18, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

niners would be a miner using a pick for mining and finding treasure....

Saints would be some crazy flamboyant masquerading dance

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by Gyorick on Sep 18, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

SF – Probably run to the opposite side of the endzone, start mining.
NO – Lifts his jersey up and mimes putting necklaces around his neck.

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by Elfuego51 on Sep 18, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent

I love the NO one. You should send it to him, see if he does it.

by rbubp on Sep 18, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

great!

he will mine for SF
for NO he should pretend to blow a trumpet

by DetroitLionKing on Sep 19, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we sure we want to encourage Sheffler's celebrations?

We know where this road leads. Next year, we’re going to have a tight end named Tony Ochocinco. Oh, and the smoke signals were hilarious.

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by Elfuego51 on Sep 18, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is weird.

That he’s #85.

What the hell is it about that number?

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

voodooooooo

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scheffler is a classy guy, trust me.

He won’t turn into a joke.

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by ZWC11 on Sep 18, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone see that it looked like Aaron Berry sprung his ankle on that fumble?

did anyone see him playing late in the game?

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

oohhhhh boy

I did not see him back there late.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

dang it

hopefully someone else did…I know I saw a bit of McDonald in there…

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wright is looking like a real ball hawk out there

I have been very impressed with his play so far.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

dido

very happy with both him and Houston. Who knew Wright was as physical??? Forcing FFs and good in run support. Such a good fit for our D!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Houston really started to come on last 2nd half of season and

Wright has played some good football before. Admit I was worried about E.Wrights confidence when we got him but it seems he’s back to old form.Haven’t heard anyone give props to middle of our D so I’m doing that now.

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by JayBDet on Sep 18, 2011 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Way to give the game up!

I guess Dal deserved one after being so gracious last week…

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Ya but the damn Bears lost

Always a great day specialy when we win ! Even if it wasn’t the damn Bears we beat :O)

we win Bears lose perfect day ……

by ubeensued on Sep 18, 2011 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

well said!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was anyone else yelling "PROCESS!" at their TV during the SD/NE game?

I couldn’t believe that first Patriot TD caught by Hernandez was called a catch.

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by Elfuego51 on Sep 18, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Uh, yeah.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

we all were

Maybe they did “refine” the rule?

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

They didn't.

They claimed they “refined” the rule and then claimed Calvin Johnson’s catch still wouldn’t be a touchdown. Ergo, if CJ’s still isn’t a touchdown under the “new” rules, no way in hell Hernandez’s is.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course they say that

Like this will be the first time in the NFL’s history they said one thing and did another.

If they said, CJs catch would be a TD this year, they would have a shit storm on their hands.

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by joshsun on Sep 18, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well now they have a shit storm anyways.

Just a typical example. Whatever, we won’t even need the process. I’m really hankering to have it be MNF, I can’t wait to see Suh put the fear of God into Cutler. That OL is going to get him murdered.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't wait til MNF vs chicago

there’s definitely payback coming….also i haven’t seen the catch in the NE/SD game…was it really that bad to remind us of the “process”?

yo let's do it (it's a gundam thing)

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it was pretty bad considering the announcers were like...

wait he didn’t complete the process..then they gave it to them anyway.

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by Veihl789 on Sep 18, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

9 TDs through 2 games

sweetness!

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I approve of the Lions going for Staffords 5th TD pass

at the beginning of the 4th quarter. I wish they would’ve went for Nate, Titus or Grew though, instead of CJ, mainly because of his questionableness from his ankle injury. Nate did a lot of the hard work today, but didn’t get that TD, oh well, he’ll dominate next game, again.

Chris Houston with another pick this week. Speivey played great. I think I saw Delmas wrap up some guys, sssshhhhh, don’t tell PODers. And those Dbag Packer fans on ESPN who said that we didn’t upgrade players on defense, and we just switched out guys of the same caliber, can keep thinking that.

NO HOMO!!!!!!!

by FMFDOC8404 on Sep 18, 2011 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey guys

Just wanted to drop in and say congratulations on your huge win today. I’m very impressed. Stafford and company are the real deal and the rest of the NFL better watch out. Trust me, the rest of us have noticed.
I dont feel so bad about the Buc loss last week now, at least not so much.

East Coast Fan

by Bucfan on Sep 18, 2011 9:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thank you sir!

Nice comeback today. Any team that beats the Vikes is friends in my book! Ha

Just livin' the dream...

by Brefstink on Sep 18, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks in return

I wish they played in the first half how they always play in the second.

East Coast Fan

by Bucfan on Sep 18, 2011 10:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I love it when people have class.

I was so glad the you came back against the vikings today. I’m looking forward to putting the smack down on them next week.

BTW, what did you think was the Vikes biggest weekness on offense and defense.

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by Veihl789 on Sep 18, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

Offensively it would have to be their wideouts and pass blocking. McNabb actually played pretty good today.
Defensively it would be there run defense and secondary, although both of those units played good in the first half, they got exposed in,the second.
The lions quick strike short passing game will work good against them.
Good luck against the Vikes.

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by Bucfan on Sep 18, 2011 10:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

thanks for stopping in for that Bucfan!

you got that right, Stafford sure does look to be the real deal. Then again, Freeman is leaving little doubt that he’s the real deal too!! I’m pleased to see them come back and lock it up today! They got them softened up for us to storm in!!

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone have a link to Swartz's post-game press conf.?

Hey guys where do you find the links to the post game coaches video? Looked here and at the Lions site but can only find Suh and KVB talking about Def.
Thanks in advance

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by JayBDet on Sep 18, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

NFL.com (click "videos" or search "postgame press conference"

or Detroitlions.com (in their media center)

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by rames on Sep 18, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Rames

did the search at DetroitLions.com but not at NFL.com
Tip-Of-The-Hat to ya

"You still need pieces on offense"-said my Vike fan friend. Did you see the KC game?I answered!

by JayBDet on Sep 18, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And congrat's to you as well Bucsfan,nice to see ya

and hope you guys continue to win, as long as it’s not against us LOL
Seriously though it’s always nice to see a classy fan no matter who the home team is.

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by JayBDet on Sep 18, 2011 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Your welcome

I think you can be a fan of football, and yet still have some class. I love watching young teams discover themselves.
After all the tumultuous years the lions have had its nice to see them doing well.
I’m happy for you fans too….

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by Bucfan on Sep 18, 2011 10:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I haven't posted in a while but always read ...

that is the worst I have seen the lions beat and outplay a team since the we beat the cowboys 38-6 in the playoffs in 91-92 , our only playoff win since the superbowl was created …..I can honestly say this team is for real

first game - aug. 1970 = hooked ever since = GO LIONS!!

by spinitnow on Sep 18, 2011 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Thoughts on this game...

 - Stafford didn’t play his best game, but it says something about his talent that he can still put up 4 TDs. He’s a massive talent, that’s for sure. At this rate, he’s gonna go over 40 Tds on the year.

 - I thought the OL struggled somewhat. Backus had some trouble with Hali, but that was to be expected. Run blocking wasn’t as strong as well, but overall, the line played decently enough. No sacks yet…

 - Best looked dangerous, I think it’s obvious that he isn’t a feature back and that next year he’ll be more potent, but he’s doing a very good job anyway. It was nice to see Williams get some carries as well.

 - Burleson and Young were the shining lights for me. Burleson is majorly dangerous after the catch and Young’s speed is dangerous, I think he’s only gonna get better. CJ had 2 scores but I think Flowers did a good job of limiting him.

 - Still somewhat surprised that our Defensive line is creating massive amounts of pressure, although maybe that’s me just expecting too much of them. They did pressure Cassell and while the run game early was shotty, we shored it up. I did notice that Suh was more involved, he was pushing his way into the pocket quite often.

 - I can’t tell you how much different we are with Durant and Tulloch at LB. Durant was all over the place and Tully’s physicality is something that really fits this defence.

 - Largely impressed by our secondary. 3 picks isn’t something you complain to much about, and Cassell couldn’t throw on us easily.

A 48-3 win is something I wasn’t particularly expecting. I thought KC would hang with us early, and in a way they did, although they couldn’t put points on the board. The domination then began and we clearly looked to be the better team, although the Chiefs are down on troops, and good ones at that. I’d also mention that we were lucky in a sense early on, but we took advantage of it for the most part. 2-0 start, happy with that.

by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 18, 2011 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

KVB 4 tackles, a sack and a forced fumble

This Castle kid, or Cassel, or whoever he was, was literally melting down on the sideline in frustration, after getting beaten down and then throwing yet another pick. We’re rattling these QB’s, it’s fun to watch.

by LionsD on Sep 18, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have very similar thoughts on the game

I think the d-line applied more pressure than you give it credit for though. Cassel dropped back to pass 23 times and we got 2 sacks, 1 forced fumble, and 3 other hits. Plus Suh deserves a lot of credit for pressuring Cassel into the interception by Wright.

by Stones1981 on Sep 18, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

you got it on all points!

well most of the points. Granted I didn’t get to watch the OL play in fine detail in my replay but I thought they overall looked pretty sweet. Ya the pass protection has been fantastic! Sure they got through and he was ruffled up a bit but overall they stuffed it. There’s room for improvement still.

Best and Young are going to be mind blowing fast attack land and air combo assault!! Both are dangerous after the catch/contact.

I’m also very excited over the play of the LB now!! Durant is making a strong effort to win me over! Tulloch is indeed the type of thumper dynamo this team needed! Anyone taking in under on week 5 we have him locked up with an extension?

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 18, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

On CJ being limited.....

I think there might’ve been something more to it than Flowers. He was questionable for the game with an Ankle injury, I think the score of the game dictated how we used him because of this. He did play kinda late in the game, but I think that was more so for decoy purposes. He didn’t really have any big plays, I think he had one that was called back, but you could tell he was limited.

NO HOMO!!!!!!!

by FMFDOC8404 on Sep 19, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could be...

Although any game in which he had two TDs is a successful one to me.

by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 19, 2011 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my lord! Can we not enjoy the present for a few minutes before cowering in fear over our coming doom?

I mean really, do people think that just because we won this week that we are more likely to lose next week?

"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."

by NorthLeft12 on Sep 18, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's going to get his

he’s a freaking premiere player in the NFL. No defense is going to completely shut him down. The vikings are incredibly limited and one dimensional, though. Peterson alone is not nearly enough to beat this Lions team.

by Trysdor on Sep 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are going to hammer the living shit out of the statue called Donovan.

They may run a bit with AP, but when we get ahead and they try to pass to catch up, it’s going to look like today.

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by delusional on Sep 18, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't we give up only 36ish yards to AP last year?

I think they were better with McKinnie, and I think our LBers/run defense is better this year.

NO HOMO!!!!!!!

by FMFDOC8404 on Sep 19, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless, were going hammer the shit out of Minny.

I just think AP will pick up a few yards, that’s all. Last year was last year, it has zero bearing on this coming Sunday.

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by delusional on Sep 19, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Durant, 8 solo tackles, 3 assists.

The linebackers and safeties are FLYING around out there behind that giant D-line. Have some faith. So maybe he gets a 120 again, who in HELL is going to stop Stafford and Johnson? The Vikes have puny cornerbacks. They’ll get a couple touches and we’ll put up another 400 yard, multiple touchdown,display of power. Our O-line is brutalizing these defenses with their size and pace. Lets get that credit right out there, this offensive line is damn good.

GO LIONS!!!!!!!!

by LionsD on Sep 18, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, I'm not nervous in the least about Vikings

I think it’s also going to be a rout! I’m thinking 10-13 maximum points they can get on us on a good day.

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 18, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am worried

He is exactly the type of runner I would expect to cause us problems. If he starts off fast against us, I fully expect a ton of play action passes to draw our defense up. Our saving grace, I do not think McNabb has the timing needed yet to fully take advantage of our safeties and Cs cheating up to help on AP. C Will has been a beast on sniffing out screens to his side so I expect that to continue also.

AP is going to have to have a close to career day to help his team beat us. The Vikes margin for error is looking so much smaller than our ATM. Even with my concerns, I think we should pull off a W.

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by joshsun on Sep 19, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope,,,,It's going to be a replica of this weeks game....maybe not the super big score.

Minny is going to try to run, the D is going to give up a few yards, our O is going to score and take a lead, Minny is going to have to pass to open it up to score faster, Donovan is going get slaughtered….Simple, nothing to it.

And I’m serious. Teams now have it on tape on how to attack us and will run until the cows come home, until we learn(a we will) how to stop them. The adjustments we made to stop the run were stunning, and somewhere Schwartz admits they made adjustments on D yesterday.

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by delusional on Sep 19, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have absolutely no idea who Milt Plum is

but apparently Staff has tied his franchise record for passing TDs through two weeks.

by Trysdor on Sep 18, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Mid 60's QB

Plum and Karl Sweetan used to have a QB battle as to which one would start. I believe we got Plum from CLE.

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by delusional on Sep 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plum came from Cleveland

but by the time Sweetan come along Plum was really stinking up the place. Morrell, and Izo got some starts in before Sweetan was drafted. Plum was kind of the 60’s version of Peete.

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by JCruize on Sep 18, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO...

Munson was here WAY before Sweetan. Plum was suppose to be the answer, and then Munson was; they both stunk here.

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by Gee Garold Lembach on Sep 19, 2011 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

No he wasn't...Completely incorrect

Sweetan was here from 1966 to 1967.

Munson was here from 1968 to 1975.

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by delusional on Sep 19, 2011 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the fact check, delusional

my bad; I’m also forgetting how screwed up I use to get in the 60’s and 70’s. lol

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by Gee Garold Lembach on Sep 19, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed, it appears that was the case

I was born in ’61 and I was just becoming aware of the NFL bout this time. I remember Karl Sweetan as Roman Gabriels backup in LA. My Dad was a huge Rams fan, hated Roman and was always calling for Karl. I didnt know Munson was a Ram. That trade didnt work out for either team apparently. The Lions drafted Greg Laundry the year after getting Munson and Sweetan only lasted a short time in LA

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 19, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Munson and Landry did the QB controversy thing for a few years, until they finally settled on Landry.

My dad just positively hated Milt Plum, that’s why I remembered it so well.

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by delusional on Sep 19, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love talking Lions history

Being that I am ony 35 now. Most of my info comes from books and my grandfather. So I love talking to guys that have been around longer than me.

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by JCruize on Sep 20, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can remember Lions back to the 1965 game with GB.

I was born in 1957. It was a 12-7 game(I had to check), and if my memory is correct, it was a sloppy mess of a field.

Alex Karras was a big deal, he was suspended one year for gambling. The Lions front 4 was the cats ass, along with Joe Schmidt. Lem Barney came later and he was playing when we were at Tiger Stadium.

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by delusional on Sep 20, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, that would have been great to see

some of Ole Lions play in person.

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by JCruize on Sep 20, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our Defense hated Plum!

Karras always called him a milk-drinking QB, and even threw a chair at him after one Lion loss. LOL

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by Gee Garold Lembach on Sep 21, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's right, forgot about that one.

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by delusional on Sep 21, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My God this brave young Matthew Stafford

This All American boy, getting his chance to prove his talent in the league. Brings a tear to the eye. GO LIONS! DISMANTLE THE VIKINGS PIECE BY PIECE!

by LionsD on Sep 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Couple thoughts on ATL-PHI

Matty Ice is turning into Melty Ice. He’s getting a big case of happy feet, really inaccurate, getting red in the face and flustered, etc.

Philadelphia’s o-line is really impressing me, very agile. Their secondary is as advertised and still gelling.

Atlanta… they don’t look like world beaters. I can’t really put my finger on it, they’re making plays and stuff, capitalizing on errors, but this team is just… not very good. Without looking at their schedule, they look like an 8 or 9 win team at best.

Philadelphia / Atlanta is turning into some kind of rivalry. This game is everything Pitt / Bal was supposed to be.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 10:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm not impressed with Matty's compsure either

I’m wondering if the flake moniker really is true ;/

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 18, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been saying it since pre-season

But watching ATL in weeks 1 and 2 makes me infinitely more confident that we Will win that game. We have the same style of d-line pressure as Philly, with way, way more talent on the line. If he’s getting flustered this bad against Trent Cole and Jason Babin, he’s going to weep like a child against Suh and Fairley.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

omfg Fairley will likely be in too wont he??

It could be uuuuugly!!! I don’t think Turner scares Tulloch in the least.!!

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 18, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

IIRC it’s the game before the bye week. Fairley should be well seasoned in the rotation by then.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 11:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

scary!

I wonder who’s active now that would have to go inactive for Fairley if the call came next week for example.

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 18, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that Fairley would be ready next week....

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 18, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couple options...

Flu, Eke, Palmer…

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds about right

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 19, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll ask the most important quesiton of the day

Who should we draft with the 32nd pick next year? :D

by Trysdor on Sep 18, 2011 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

TBH they could draft Mi*** to come play and

I may not notice it at that point I’ll still be so flabbergasted!!!

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 18, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Little too early for that, but based on how first round draftees look Now it’ll probably be either Burleson’s or KVB’s eventual replacement. Unless some OL float into that range come draft time.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 18, 2011 11:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

BPA,

he’ll start off as a rotation guy, not a starter. He’ll work his way in and eventually get a shot to start, maybe by our 3rd or 4th Championship, either that or somebody else will step in to help contribute to the dynasty.

NO HOMO!!!!!!!

by FMFDOC8404 on Sep 19, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

so wtf 2700 or so posts??

PoD was full of chatty Kathys today I see! What a game!!

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 18, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm loving this ATL victory over Eagles!!

I hate to see the Vick injury tho

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 18, 2011 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Falcons win yet another game they didn't deserve to win

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by Grahamophone on Sep 18, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't go so far as to say anything of the sort

that was a helluva battle imo

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 19, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is the only player I do not mind seeing hurt.

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by joshsun on Sep 19, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Desean Jackson failed me big time

needed only 7 points to win my week, he ended up with 2, pure crap

GO LIONS

by jay_8118 on Sep 18, 2011 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

And that's why it's fantasy,

DeSean’s value to that team is much greater than that. Him hustling his tail off and saving that TD was worth his couple thousand $$$ game check, too bad the D couldn’t hold ‘em. They need to pay him what he’s worth, I really hope he stays healthy and walks. He puts in effort that paid players never thought of putting in.

If I’m him, this is me being a team player…. I run out of bounds before taking a hit, not while (see J. Charles). I don’t play on ST, or I’m fair catching everything. I don’t block. I don’t go over the middle. And, I don’t hustle back on Int’s or fumbles. I gotta keep my fragile Achilles and ACL healthy for my payday that I should’ve already gotten so I can continue to help my team.

NO HOMO!!!!!!!

by FMFDOC8404 on Sep 19, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keiland Williams got some touches?

I missed the last part of the fourth quarter but I never saw him out there. Not a big fan of watching Jahvid bash through the line (or fly over it for that matter) so I wanted to see what the big guy could do.

Can someone fill me in on how he looked?

by Northern Lite on Sep 18, 2011 11:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

His statline.

9 att, 25 yds, 1 TD. average of 2.8 ypc with a long of 14

No receptions, one fumble but it was recovered by us.

All in all, a pretty decent showing considering all he did was grind clock in garbage time when they knew he was getting the ball.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 19, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

made a couple very nice runs

the stat line looks like crap because of the goaline carries…I like him for sure!

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by rames on Sep 19, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait til he steps into more of a "complete" back role.

McClain was lookin’ real fresh for KC and I picture him being that kind of guy. Hitting it up the gut or catching it in the flats for a decent gain. Exciting.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 19, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just realized.

I’m talking about the guy like he’s the next LaDainian Tomlinson. Pretty sad how your eyes glaze over at the thought of someone who’s competent.

Ugh. I miss Barry.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 19, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually I found McClain was rising to the occasion

it seems like they pulled that back a bit. Perhaps it’s his sly surprise for next week lol

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 19, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

McClain wanted more carries so he went to KC.

And happened to get them, and made the most of them.

Keiland has the Felton syndrome, a runner converted to a blocker who’s just itching for his chance. Should make the most out of his opportunities, since he’s basically making an audition for another team next year.

(I don’t think we keep Keiland and Leshoure. Unless we decide to let go of MoMo next year.)

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by Mavyrk on Sep 19, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Part of the reason I was asking how he looked

is I am wondering if we keep him and let go of MoMo and Harrison maybe. Maybe one of the two may stick around. After Leshoure went down I think we all knew Mayhew was going to go dumpster diving for running backs after roster cuts. I guess the question is, do they like what they found?

by Northern Lite on Sep 19, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt we make any moves at RB for a while.

This game showed us how quickly an injury can change your entire landscape in the running game. We need the stable, at least for this year.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 19, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's a fact jack

It’ll make that McClain pickup look genius. I think our 4 can perform when given the call to some degree.

I caught the announcer say something quite profound. The check down has become the modern age version of the running play. Rather than have you be right here for the hand off you just get a running start for the quick dropoff. I LIKE IT!

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 19, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense

Especially for us. Maybe that’s why our coaches have seemed to make it a requirement that any back has good hands…because they feel it is a part of the responsibility in the same way being able to run through the B gap is..

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by rames on Sep 19, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's too early to say one way or another about Keiland for next year

As for now tho I think he’s earned the right for some more carries soon. Let him tenderize MulletMan a bit early on before setting Best loose. I like it.

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 19, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok its a plan

Lets get Keiland in the action and continue this discussion after another Lions victory next week!

by Northern Lite on Sep 19, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't mean to scare anyone

I am a huge Best fan…. and maybe a bigger Leshoure fan? I think they have great futures ahead of them. Best is a spectacular play maker and Leshoure looks to be a beast.

You have a stable of running backs for more then just putting your 2nd in when your 1st gets hurt. Lets share some carries and let the big boys do some work. Keep Jahvid healthy and fresh and let him work on his Barry Sanders impersonations.

by Northern Lite on Sep 19, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like a plan!

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 19, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with you

I firmly believe Keiland earned some expanded looks next week

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 19, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

saw that!

the fucker deserves it!!!!!

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by rames on Sep 19, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

omg that's AWESOME!!

hey KC, thanks for helping us make that pick you get that much crappier in the round :)

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 19, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

somehow I'm now picturing the FO on down to Guny

having the single mindset of GRIND THAT WIMPY ACCUSATION in to their face! 48-3 Pioli Puhlease ~

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 19, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great Game...

room to improve still. the 1st quarter was sloppy.

I’m suprised people aren’t more jacked up about TD Young..i think its fair to say we found the #3 WR we have been looking for. I still want to see CJ with atleast 6 catches a game, but i guess he is nursing that ankle.

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by Veihl789 on Sep 19, 2011 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

oh no doubt!

TDY showed every bit of the promise of the sure handed zip meister from BS. I’m very excited for his prospects!!

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by Ee Oulo on Sep 19, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm definitely jacked

I really think he completes our passing game. With his vertical threat, on any given play we could threaten with 3 vertical routes, but also threaten underneath with big play YAC guys…With Best coming out of the backfield, it now literally means the D has to guard the WHOLE field. Period.

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by rames on Sep 19, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Colin Cowhurd

They’re talking about how good the Lions are and mention Titus as being an x-factor that could take them to that next level of being an elite team…wow

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by rames on Sep 19, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

My favorite thing about Titus is the fact the he CATCHES the ball.

by Northern Lite on Sep 19, 2011 1:25 AM EDT reply actions  

the upside with him is rediclious too.

next year he could be more than a contributor..and be a serious threat. Just imagine…..oh, and leshoure coming back too…the potential is through the roof. Just imagine if we hit on some OLINE picks and get a RG or C that is a stud. Scary to think about.

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by Veihl789 on Sep 19, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Catches the ball??

You mean that is now an actual expectation of our #3 receiver now? ; )

by akadwriter on Sep 19, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of cutting in on the celebration

Something that nagged me coming into watching the game was the fate of Gos. I was certain I spotted Hilllard but since I streamed the game it was pretty choppy most of the game..made it fairly hard to track players.

Gosder punished for penalty

Corey Hilliard started at right tackle in place of Gosder Cherilus.

Cherilus committed a personal foul penalty at the end of last week’s game that could have cost the Lions the victory. Coach Jim Schwartz said Cherilus would return to the starting lineup next week.

“The way we finished last week was not our best presentation,” Schwartz said. “Gos has played a lot of good football for us, and he will continue to play a lot of good football for us. But we can’t allow that to happen. We look forward to getting Gos back (next week).”

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110918/SPORTS0101/109180346/Rookie-receiver-Titus-Young-starts-fulfilling-Lions’-hopes#ixzz1YNWjRc24

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by oldboy22 on Sep 19, 2011 2:50 AM EDT reply actions  

ug

I just hope Schwartz gamble pays off. If it does, it’s a brilliant move. If we end up loosing a very good RT for this, I will hold a grudge.

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by rames on Sep 19, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn what a awesome game!

   I have never been prouder wearing my Lions gear today. So many positives which many of you pointed out and sone negatives to improve upon going foward. It was great seeing Young and Williams getting more playing time and looking good. Our secondary looks solid playing behind that front seven and the LBs continue to be a solid force. Great play on both sides of the ball and I can’t wait to see how the rest of the season plays out. Go Lions!

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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Sep 19, 2011 3:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Granted I know it's JUST the Chiefs

But the Lions are second in points scored AND points against.

Don't Panic!

by 42jeff on Sep 19, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Coach was singing?? LOL

Thats cool…what was he singing? I didnt see this until too late. :(

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 19, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I listened in and they never played it, or I missed it myself. They started on the Nate topic.

Schwartz was just on for his weekly presser at 230pm E.T.

It was a good presser, “lots work to be done” type of thing. He sounded generally pleased, happy with the secondary, and Titus and Nate.

He’s sounding like a coach not having to be on the defensive all of the time.(obviously)

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by delusional on Sep 19, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, its always nice when a plan comes together

I almost look at the Chief game as the final part of the first act. The past is prologue. We’ll find out what they can do with it, now that they have the team pretty much where they wanted it and when they wanted it there.

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 19, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree....I said last week that this game was it for me. The 180 turnaround for me is complete.

I still have my concerns that I can’t shake with the LB’ers, but I am very encouraged over how they made changes quickly as Schwartz put it, “changes made within the game plan” to cover the outside.

The back 4/5 have completely won me over, and their stepping up in run support and tackling in space has been nothing short of phenomenal. Walton has done a hell of a job, and it only gets better with Phonz coming back this week.

The offense, that just goes without saying.

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by delusional on Sep 19, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I believe Tulloch will come up to near what he was with the Titans

I think what you see is what you get with Levy and 8 tackles yesterday for Durant damn near made a believer out of me. If he can have a similar game against the Vikes, Marty is a square peg finding mf’er of a madman

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 19, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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