Gosder Cherilus To Return To Lions Starting Lineup Next Week?

by Sean Yuille on Sep 19, 2011 12:52 PM EDT in Detroit Lions News

Just how angry was Detroit Lions head coach Jim Schwartz over the personal foul penalty right tackle Gosder Cherilus took at the end of the Week 1 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Schwartz benched Cherilus for Sunday's game against the Kansas City Chiefs. Corey Hilliard got the start in the place of Cherilus, who didn't see the field until the game was out of hand and some starters were taken out.

While some may have viewed this as a permanent change, it looks like this was merely a one-week punishment to send a message to Cherilus and the rest of the team.

"The way we finished last week was not our best presentation," Schwartz said. "Gos has played a lot of good football for us, and he will continue to play a lot of good football for us. But we can't allow that to happen. We look forward to getting Gos back (next week)."

The good news for the Lions is they do have a player like Hilliard who can step in as a starter. It doesn't sound like he is staying in the starting lineup, though. As long as Cherilus doesn't make another critically stupid error, he probably will be the Lions' right tackle going forward.

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Little bit of stuff going on about Nate carrying a visible gun during an interview last night. I did not see the interview.

Michigan has some convoluted open carry laws where no license is needed but the carry situations are tight, and it’s entirely possible that Nate has a CPL license like many a person does in Michigan, but you have to keep it concealed unless in a life threatening situation.

Then there’s the NFL and their rules regarding player conduct. So expect the hear a bit about it in the next few days.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Sep 19, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions

It looks like he is in his own house, in which case he could be holding it and pointing it around the room on camera. Anyone can own a handgun, but if you wear it out in public or keep it in your car then it needs to be concealed and a permit in hand.

by West Michigan Baller on Sep 19, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions

It's a wallet

He’s posted about it before. Love ya Nate, but that’s borderline right there. Please present your man card for validation.

Do you try to spell that fucked up on purpose?
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by OKCLion on Sep 19, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Cool,,,,,they were talking about it on the radio for a while.

I’m as pro gun as it gets and couldn’t care less if he posed with a .50 cal sniper rifle, but I know how pansy the NFL gets about such things.

That’s a slick wallet.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Sep 19, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah

The problem is the NFL (like most big organizations) is so insistent on being politically correct. I mean look at how they pandered to the good-for-nothing PETA after the Vick incident. It’s all about being pc.

by akadwriter on Sep 20, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions

really?

you think peta is worse than breeding dogs to watch them kill each other?

I COMPLETELY disagree.

PETA represents a viewpoint that you happen to disagree with. Dogfighting is sick, horrible, sad, and illegal.

Michael Vick was responsible for a giant dogfighting operation. It’s illegal and it was illegal on a large scale. there was a reason PETA was pretty upset about it.

by freywagg on Sep 20, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions

PETA represents hypocrisy.

I’d like to meet the man that doesn’t “happen to disagree” with hypocrisy.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 20, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions

explain the hypocrisy?

I don’t understand (I’m being serious, I’m not sure what you’re driving at).

I get that not everyone loves PETA, they’ve had some extremely odd and/or stupid campaigns that they’ve put together. What is the inherent hypocrisy in the organization though?

by freywagg on Sep 20, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions

PETA has some valid issues, but...

They go much too far with them. I have a serious problem with spray painting fur coats. That is property owned by another person and a large number of the animal furs used in making the coats are from animal farms created for the purpose. The facts are very simple. The human race will always need to kill other living things to survive. It is a patter of scientific reality.

Even if you choose to be a vegetarian, you are consuming living things to survive. There is scientific proof that plants have a self survival mechanism. They react to stimuli and some plants emit a chemical form of a “scream” when they are harmed. Some plants will move their branches away from fire. Just because we do not know how to interpret the “language” of plants, or understand them, does not mean that they do not communicate or have a self-awareness. History is replete with examples of human ignorance about the world we live in.

At some point we have to simply understand and accept that other living things will die so that the human race will live. That is the way of the natural world, but PETA sometimes goes too far in rejecting that notion.

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by TuffLynx on Sep 20, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions

You’re misunderstanding the actions of individuals with the actions of an organization. PETA has never painted fur coats. But I get your point. People who agree with PETA’s message have done so.

Part of the issue with fur is that it’s not for survival anymore. We don’t wear fur or leather because we need it to keep us warm in the winter. We wear it because it’s the fashion and what we are accustomed to. There are plenty of viable options for warmth that don’t necessitate the animal farms that breed animals for slaughter.

by freywagg on Sep 20, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

That may be true.

Realize however that those same animals wouldn’t exist at all were it not for those animal farms, Many would in fact be extinct.

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by Justan Oldfart on Sep 20, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions

that might be true in some cases

but pretty flawed logic because it doesn’t take into account all the destruction and externalities that those animal farms have created globally.

But I digress…don’t need these posts to be stricken…

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by rames on Sep 20, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Sorry Freywagg

But you don’t know what you are talking about. IF YOU READ Peta’s own statements on their website, you will see that they are against using anything animal…even using animals for medicines/drugs that have been used to save HUMAN LIVES!!!!

Please get a clue.

by akadwriter on Sep 21, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions

BTW

If you check into it, PETA has been proven to kill animals. They just cover it up. THAT IS TOTAL HYPOCRISY. End of story.

by akadwriter on Sep 21, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions

I agree with the Peta statement however,

At some point we have to simply understand and accept that other living things will die so that the human race will live

I dont agree with that.We will not survive long with the instinctual sense of entitlement we have to this earth.What do you think happens when you take and dont replenish?

by Michael21 on Sep 20, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions

for sure

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by rames on Sep 20, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions

I spent about 10 years of my life as a vegetarian

and I agree with everything you said. I also really did not like PETA when I was vegetarian because of the misconceptions and faulty “evidence” they put out there… For most of the years, and I still don’t eat meat very much, it was an environmental issue for me and had more to do with the nature of what the meat market has caused on a global scale (aiding the destruction of rain forests and aboriginal settlements, ozone depletion, etc.)

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by rames on Sep 20, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions

This isn't really the place to go into a big debate about it.

Just google “peta hypocrisy” and you’ll find enough relevant links. Suffice to say, the organization that rages against animals being killed for any purpose including food kills a whole lot of animals themselves.

They’re more a fund-raising organization than anything else. They take in an awful lot of money and donations and don’t seem to do a lot with it. They keep costs down by euthanizing tons of animals (as opposed to using some of their millions to, you know, do what they got the millions for.)

If you want to donate to a good cause, support the Humane Society or the ASPCA instead.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 20, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions

I fully agree that ASPCA is a better organization. Humane Society also tries very hard.

What PETA does effectively is draw attention to issues. They certainly use controversial methods to do so. They often are trying to address more systemic “problems” than the humane society and aspca though. It takes more to get big issues into the public dialogue.

But yeah, I agree that we can end the “debate.”

by freywagg on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Bingo

Nailed it Mav.

by akadwriter on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions

I think

that PETA is worse than breeding dogs to watch them kill each other, but that doesn’t mean I like dogfighting, it just means that PETA REALLY, REALLY, sucks! As for Mr. Vick, I am not convinced he was the mastermind of a dog fighting empire, I think he has really, really, stupid relatives who all turned on him the minute the law showed up, knowing where the spotlight would go. As for PETA, well…I eat animals, they are tasty and nutritious, I pay money to wear their skins to protect me from the cold weather, and who the hell can play football with out the pigskin? Top of the food chain baby!!!

by rproulx on Sep 20, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions

Amen.

How did not liking PETA and their BS equal “I love to see animals tortured”?

Sorry, I missed the connection there.

by akadwriter on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions

My point is that HUMAN BEINGS ARE NOT ANIMALS

I don’t think that torturing dogs is fine. I just happen to value human life above dog life. Sorry if that doesn’t make sense to you.

I think it’s ridiculous that certain nfl players can kill a person (even if by accident) and get far less crap than a man who kills dogs. Sorry, that’s bs.

by akadwriter on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions

Good for him!!!

I like him more now.

by akadwriter on Sep 19, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't know, you got me.

.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?

by delusional on Sep 19, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions

Its called open carry, it's legal

But he sure as hell doesn’t need to be wearing it after the effing game in interviews.

by LionsD on Sep 19, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Im more concerned about the velvet bowling shoes and the Pippi Longstockings socks

them or the pistol but not both.

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 19, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

It's called style.

I like it actually.

by akadwriter on Sep 19, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Its called kidding ;)

Its certainly snappy

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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 19, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions

It's called the internet.

Sarcasm is difficult to understand…hahaha. : D

by akadwriter on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions

Im pretty sure it is a wallet

by detsporttalk on Sep 19, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes, it is a wallet

He actually carried it to the airport for the TB game last week…

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by kdbolt70 on Sep 19, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

When I saw that outfit, I think I did a bit of a facepalm.

by SoulRepublic on Sep 19, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions

love it!

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by rames on Sep 19, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I like Nates style and flair, and personally I don't give a shit if he carries. I have a Sig P226 and an M1 Scout rifle myself, and I don't own them for hunting either

It is called self defense and he has every right to carry as long as he is doing it legal. He is a good guy and has long since won me over on the quality of his character. Love Nate, hes my boy! Love his style too, wish I was not such a fat ass I would be flash like that too. Nothing wrong with looking sharp.

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by Evilsmurf on Sep 20, 2011 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions

Benching Gos also gave him that extra time to rest his knee. Could be a blessing in disgiuse.

Plus it kind of sends a message to the rest of the team. Schwartz benched a started for the home opener. Message sent, hopefully it was received as well.

The Disassembly Line....nuff said.

by Veihl789 on Sep 19, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions

Are there any quotes out there from Gos about being benced?

And open carry is very legal in Michigan.. I wish the cops all knew that! I don’t live there any more, but have had more than a few friends get hassled.

All men are created equal. Its just that some men are more equal than others....

by CapitolLions on Sep 19, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah

Cops can really be huge douchebags.

by akadwriter on Sep 19, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Cops get guns pulled on them all the time, so cut them some slack.

And they can’t always be sure that you’re not the nutjob whose going to pull it on them.

I suspect that cops think that those who insist on wearing pieces in public just makes it harder for them to tell the good guys from the bad guys. Especially when they’re the pro-gun types who say they have to ‘protect themselves from the government’.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Sep 19, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I know that...

I just have a huge problem with the power hungry officers out there.

And I believe that the govt. doesn’t care about me or has my best interests in mind (it’s why our founding fathers insisted on including the 2nd amendment in our Constitution). So someday I may need to protect myself from it. Those who think that opinion is crazy just haven’t read any history. : )

And by the way, criminals are NOT the ones showing their guns. They usually try to hide the fact that they are armed.

by akadwriter on Sep 20, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions

The sooner he returns, the better

Hillard isn’t horrible at anything, but he’s not particularly effective at run blocking and his pass protection is basically league-average. Gosder at least run blocks at a Pro Bowl-level.

by Hussein Beydoun on Sep 19, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions

Pro-Bowl Level...

i’m not sure anyone can run block at that level on our O-Line.

The Disassembly Line....nuff said.

by Veihl789 on Sep 19, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Considering the scrubs

Sent to the Pro Bowl every year on the Oline, it isn’t too hard to do. Cherilous is off and on, but when he’s on, he’s a VERY good run blocker. And there aren’t very many RTs who are good at that.

by Hussein Beydoun on Sep 19, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Gos has the skill set to be ProBowl level..

but he needs to be smarter and more consistent. I still like him. We need a road grader for our RG though. Then i think Gos will do even better. Kind of like how Sims has made Backus and the Left side of the line better.

The Disassembly Line....nuff said.

by Veihl789 on Sep 19, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

sims is a stud

backus got worked. very concerning.he was a wall last year.they have to give him help or he gonna get staff killed.gos is an idiot.he will do it again.its amazin to me the line does as well as it does.lotsa holes.raiola may be the worst center in football.peterman is a penalty machine. can anyone say leonard davis?

by California Dillon's on Sep 19, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I trust our FO..

if Leonard Davis was in shape and an upgrade he would be here.

The Disassembly Line....nuff said.

by Veihl789 on Sep 19, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Seconded

by Hussein Beydoun on Sep 19, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

You do realize

that all the offensive line analyst state the weakness on our team is Gos and Peterman don’t you? Lineman normally have their strongest seasons in 3rd or 4th year so no one looks for Gos to go to the probowl ever. Sims is one of the strongest spots on our line.

"You still need pieces on offense"-said my Vike fan friend. Did you see the KC game?I answered!

by JayBDet on Sep 20, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions

Which offensive line analysts?

Because we have a couple on this very blog, you know, who say nothing of the sort.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 20, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions

Jamie Dukes, Mark Schlereth among others

I’m terrible with names so had to look those up but during the draft and in the early season many analysts that specialize in the offensive line including a coach they had on there from the B.Ravens(think he was the o’line coach)specifically mentioned Gos, Peterman and Backus by name when talking about needs for our team.

"You still need pieces on offense"-said my Vike fan friend. Did you see the KC game?I answered!

by JayBDet on Sep 20, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't buy it.

Backus and Gosder were both top half of the league in performance last year for OTs.

It’s not the first time “many analysts” have had absolutely no clue what they’re talking about. Kevin Seifert is an analyst, and he actually covers the NFC North, and has said nothing of the sort. Analysts covering teams that are outside their market have a tendency to look at QBs getting hurt and assume things, but it’s off base.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 20, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Gotta respect a coach who says it

and I don’t buy Gos being a top OT, he’s in his prime playing the best he ever will and makes to many mental errors and like what was said when he came into the league, not always good technique. Backus has played some good ball but is getting old,no way around that.

Stats don’t always show whats actually on the field of play. Like Peterman getting away w/a face mask on the JBest jump over the pile TD in the KC game, would we still win had he been called?yes but still a unnecessary move by him.

"You still need pieces on offense"-said my Vike fan friend. Did you see the KC game?I answered!

by JayBDet on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree, Cherilus has better skills than Hilliard

but I’d only start him again on a provisional basis. One more bad penalty like that PF in Tampa and you get benched for more than just a game. Gos was just trying to make himself look better after whiffing a block — if you miss, you can make up for it if you just hit someone. Bad training.

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by drgarnett on Sep 19, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I dont care whos starting next week but glad the message was sent

Stafford needs better protection period. And they need to run the ball a bit more as well. Yes he proved he can take hits but at same time he was running around too much and took too many unnecessary hits. I know they didnt have sacks but this will eventually catch up to them w/ more potent defenses that will get to the QB.

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by JaiGaiaAries on Sep 19, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions

They haven't yielded a sack yet, can't ask for much more.......

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by Elfuego51 on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Let's give the line credit

Yesterday, they gave up 3 QB hits and 3 QBs pressures. In week on, they gave up 3 QB hits and 4 QB pressures. This is a very low number. To put it in perspective, the Jets – who probably have the most heralded Oline in the league – gave up 12 QB pressures….in week 1.

by Hussein Beydoun on Sep 19, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions

Meant for JaiGaiaAries*

by Hussein Beydoun on Sep 19, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions

We are doing a good job

We haven’t faced a dangerous D-Line yet though.

by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 20, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn't be so quick.

KC may not be doing so well but their pass rush is crazy good. Not to mention we got away with Murder on Hali, the refs overlooked a couple obvious holds iirc.

And TB’s defensive front is no joke either. We’ve performed well against a good 4-3 rush and a good 3-4 rush, it doesn’t really get more dangerous than that.

The OL may be getting all the credit for zero sacks, but Stafford has done a hell of a job preventing sacks with good throwaways and good pocket movement.

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