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Lions' Alphonso Smith Could Start Season On Reserve/Non-Football Injury List

When the Detroit Lions front office and coaches decide which 53 players will make the team, one thing to consider is the injury report. The Lions have dealt with a number of injuries during the last month, including some that haven't involved a short-term recovery. For example, offensive tackle Jason Fox, defensive tackle Nick Fairley and cornerback Alphonso Smith have all been dealing with foot injuries. Fox and Fairley suffered the injuries early in training camp, and Smith broke his foot before camp even began.

Because Smith didn't practice once during the preseason, it's possible he could be placed on the reserve/non-football injury list. He currently is on the active/non-football injury list, and Jim Schwartz didn't rule out Smith being off the roster to start the season because of the injury.

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Jim Schwartz on if Alphonso Smith will start on PUP: "We’ll see. He hasnt practiced at all yet." Would open roster spot for Silva/Vasher/etc

As Dave Birkett pointed out, Smith would be placed on the reserve/non-football injury list as opposed to the PUP list, but the rules are the same as far as I know. Smith wouldn't count against the roster, and he wouldn't be able to rejoin the roster until after the first six weeks of the regular season. As a result, a guy like Ricardo Silva or Nathan Vasher could take his spot on the initial 53-man squad.

For the Lions, the simple question they have to pose is this: How much will Smith be able to contribute during the first six weeks of the season? After not practicing at all for the last month, Smith won't be ready to play immediately after returning to practice. It will take him some time to get in game shape and up to full speed, so the Lions could decide that it's best to give him extra time and delay his return to the field until later in the season. Not only would this give the Lions a spot to use on a player that is ready to contribute in Week 1, but it would also take the pressure off Smith to rush back.

Obviously it's entirely possible Smith's return to practice is just days away, which wouldn't make this move seem necessary. However, if he is still looking at another week or two before even returning to practice, going on the reserve/non-football injury list doesn't seem like a bad idea for both Smith and the Lions.

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I would take Silva

His play has been amazing for undrafted free agent with only about month of team activities.

by Adam Iz on Sep 2, 2011 5:21 AM EDT reply actions  

It might be wise

to do this since both Vasher and Silva are capable of contributing more than Phonz could for the first 2 weeks and maybe three when Phonz is closer to being up to speed. At the end of the 6 weeks there is likely to be a spot available due to injury. I would keep Vasher and hope that Silva goes thru waivers so he can be put on the practice squad. I doubt that Vasher would be available should we cut him and then need to sign a db later in the season.

Ah but I was so much older then and younger than right now

by Justan Oldfart on Sep 2, 2011 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I like this idea

While I think Smith might be an upgrade at the nickel position – in all honesty, he probably won’t be an upgrade until week 3 or 4. I’m pretty happy with Berry or McDonald in that position right now, as I doubt Smith would just come in an unseat either of them off the bat anyhow…

I have to admit, Silva is looking good. While he didn’t make any big plays yesterday, he seemed to be in pretty good position and had chance on a couple balls including a pass defense (something which Delmas only had like 1 all of last season!???!?). Silva’s athleticism and recognition coming from a 6’3" frame could really pay dividends down the road if injuries occur. If he developed nicely, it could also allow for us to get exotic with 3 saftey nickel sets (freeing up Delmas to play closer to the line of scrimmage and blitz or help run protect) – that could be a sick set!

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by rames on Sep 2, 2011 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

PUP / reserve/non-football injury list

Thanks for discussing this, Sean. I believe the same 6 week rule is in effect for the PUP, but so what? Are any of the players mentioned ready to suit-up for a game anytime soon? I don’t think so. The depth on this team has been developing nicely, with 2nd stringers emerging… as in the case of Bobby Carpenter, who probably should be starting over FA acquisition Justin Durant. The intensity, which is becoming a charactertic of this team, has been developed by the coaching staff through the practice sessions, and is resulting in better starting options in some cases. It’s more about “what are you doing for me now,” rather than, “what did you do for me yesterday?”

As far as I know, once PUP players are cleared to play, they come under the same status as PS players, so they are able to take part in practices, while unable to play in the early part of the season. I can’t see cutting a guy like Paul Pratt, who was all over the field against Buffalo, including one monster sack, for a player who performed well last year, but unproven this year. Keep Pratt, and put Smith on the reserve/non-football injury list.

The same should hold true for Fairley, Fox, and Mo Morris… keep the reserves who have been battling for playing time! We have acrued some benefits for these situations, by developing players who can start and contribute to the team’s success. There has been much silence over whether Backus has been out-performing the competition at LT; perhaps he isn’t ready either, and I’d hate to think that he’s in their to keep a personal record of starting every game intact; they all end sometime. It’s not like he’s a Pro Bowler, or going to become one late in his career; both Hilliard and Chambers have looked good there. Fox should definitely go on PUP, as he isn’t likely to even suit-up for the games, and you have a guy like Niswanger, who can play three positions. Why give away a player who has been bred in the new Lion intensity, like Gerberry or Culbreath? They will never clear wiavers.

Fairley is an easy decision, because we have an overabundance of talent at DT. Injuries do occur, and by the time he is healthy and up to speed, we either will need him, or have a player who can bring some trade value. He wasn’t projected to be starting over Williams in the first place.

The Lions’ toughest decision lies at RB, and I’m not comfortable with giving a spot to Mo Morris at this point, until he proves he can out-perform Harrisson or Ian Johnson. As it is, I’d start Harrison, with Jahvid Best as the #2. This would also allow us to keep The Clapp, who is showing some “move the pile” ability, and is just a tough-nosed football player with value on special teams. Currently, Detroit has less than a million in cap space, so if Mayhew finds a RB he can’t keep his hands off on are we going to be able to sign him for peanuts? Is cutting Raiola, to gain the necessary jack a consideration, or do you just go with Harrison, Best, Johnson, Clapp, and Logan? An extra slot at RB could be created with this move; give the cap space necessary(over $3 mil), and also the time for, say a Chester Taylor, to learn the playbook without cramming it down his throat.

Man, there are some tough decisions to be made, but I have confidence that the staff will make the right ones, and give the Lions the chance to complete for the North crown. We are better than Chicago, and we might even have more depth than Green Bay.

by Gee Garold Lembach on Sep 2, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

hold on, hold on!!!

No way we can afford to not have MoMo for 6 weeks!!! He only has a hand issue – he’ll be back in the mix at full speed in no time – he’s a real pro…

It’s not just about what have you done for me lately. The regular season is different, and I will trust solid vets over rooks shining in glorified scrimmages. I’m glad Gun feels the same way (at least usually).

Fairley should be back in shape and ready to contribute fairly soon and while we don’t need him, he could be a clear upgrade over SLH (even as good as he is). We gots to get Fairley going earlier than later. He has a pretty simple job (mentally) and needs the on the field experience and physicality. It’s not like he’s a corner who needs to brush up on reading offenses and gettting the footwork down. Conditioning isn’t even a big deal with him seeing he won’t get that many reps, and when he does, they can be spaced out…

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by rames on Sep 2, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Backus should have been a pro bowler for last seasons performance

You haven’t heard about him because he’s does a good job keeping Matty clean. Chill and let the savy vets do their thing!

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by rames on Sep 2, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO harrison looked like the player he can be against the bills.I’d like to see momo back soon but I really think we should turn harrison loose more often.Reason being I think the more he touches the ball the more engaging he becomes, seems to be the kind of guy who has a build up.So i believe we can be ok without momo for a while if we have to unless during the regular season harrison gives us reasons otherwise.

by Michael21 on Sep 2, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cutting Harris and Keeping Donahue Would Free Up $1 M, Correct?

…what do you think about that? I mean, how often should we expect to punt this year?

by LionFanInChiefsLand on Sep 2, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

To fill the Nickle role...

The Lions will have to keep Vasher… its a no brainer.

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by CLF on Sep 2, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

disagree

not against Vasher in such a role, but we do have McDonald and Berry who can adequately be the Nickel for now. I’d rather keep Silva – like I said, we could even possibly get creative like the Giants and stroll out 3 safeties for our nickel depending on the matchups and situations…

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by rames on Sep 2, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Berry did not impress me yesterday, either did Coleman.

The BUF receivers had DerrickWilliamsitis or else they would of exposed that 2nd and 3rd team secondary.

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by delusional on Sep 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they'll keep both somehow.

   Silva led the team in tackles against the Bills so I think that pretty much solidified a spot for him. They could place Fairley on reserve and that opens another spot for Vasher or whoever.

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by Home in Cleveland, Heart in Detroit on Sep 2, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

errrg

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by rames on Sep 2, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting situation

I’d do it, and keep someone like Vasher.

by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 3, 2011 3:06 AM EDT reply actions  

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