Aaron curry demoted, might be on trade block
by sandvet on Sep 22, 2011 5:29 PM EDT
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Another seahawk bites the dust.
Former No. 4 overall pick Aaron Curry has lost his starting weak-side linebacker job to rookie K.J. Wright.
Athletic and productive at Wake Forest, Curry was highly regarded in the scouting community entering the 2009 draft. He's failed to make impact plays in Seattle, though, managing just 5.5 sacks and one interception as a 30-game starter the past two seasons. He had been removed from nickel packages after a dropped interception and blown coverage last week. The Tacoma News Tribune suggests Curry could go on the trade block. With no guaranteed money left on his contract, Curry can be released in 2012. I guess this settles the debat stafford over curry per roto lol Mayhew has mayhewed seatle alot, wounder if mayhew will make a phone call.This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Pride of Detroit or its writers. FanPosts are valued expressions of opinion by passionate and knowledgeable fans.
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Yeah trade fluellen for curry cause fairley will be back soon even tho we dont really need him
by DieHardFanForever on Sep 22, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions
lol
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boy, seatle is just a mess
I think most there problem is coaching, every seatle player we get is beast
by sandvet on Sep 22, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
oh i thought we were talking about Aaron Berry for some reason
and then i got kinda worried
My grandfather was a Packers fan, my father is a Vikings fan, I am a Lions fan, and there is no way in hell I am raising a Bears fan.
Oh, and I hate the Philadelphia Eagles (but like the Phillies)
Anyone who believes that the Lions were really considering Curry over Stafford is nuts.
That whole farce was a negotiating ploy only which [according to the contract Matthew got] absolutely failed.
Schwartz is apparently on record as saying that one of his criteria for taking a head coaching job was that the team he took over as HC had a good QB already or a high draft pick to get one. Hello # 1 pick! Hello Detroit!
Even though Schwartz was a defensive co-ordinator, he knew enough that in the NFL if you don’t have a very good QB, you are going nowhere.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
by NorthLeft12 on Sep 22, 2011 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+9
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I have to admit that I was wrong
very wrong. I am extremely happy to have been wrong but thats why I am a fan and not an NFL GM.
By the way, if there is a vote, I vote NO on trading for Curry.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
Right
why trade for him? He will only sit behind Carpenter and Palmer here.
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disagree... i think curry would imditley be at lest or 3rd best LB behind ST and JD..
bur i donno what i would be willing to trade
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Better than dre?
I would say levy is the second best linebacker on this roster right now.
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by Latif Masud on Sep 22, 2011 7:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i just dont see that in levy.. i see way to much inconsistency.. i see way to much hesitation.. imo he isnt good at all..
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inconsistency? hesitation?
Are we talking about the Levy in New Orleans or DeAndre Levy?
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He's just upset Levy's last name isn't Ayers...
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wh the fuck do people keep bring up ayers? get the fuck over it alredy
open your eyes and watch levy dont think about ayers
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It's quotes like that, that kill your rep around here
You say somthing very smart and witty then follow it up with that…
find me one time where i was the 1st to bring up ayers sinc the draft..
its a fucking joke peopl should say anything if thats all there gonig to say
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I think the Ayers point is brought up because you lost a lot of street cred during that whole shenanigan
you went so over the top man crush for him that how do we know your doing the same for Curry?
Don’t get me wrong I like curry, and I think he has to be better than some of our depth guys like Ekejiuba. But I completely disagree about him being better than Levy or even Carpenter.
First of all you should know that the line backers have to gel, the get used to playing with our front. Until they have a feel for how those guys play, there will be hesitations, false steps, and stutter starts in their reads. you cannot throw those guys out at all, even Levy. They need time to gel, at least 4-6 more weeks before you start making bold statements like that.
Keep in mind that Levy is playing outside his first time since his rookie year. So even for him it is an adjustment to play outside with guys like KVB, Suh, Cory Williams, Lawrence Jackson, and well everyoen but SLH and Avril, since they are the only ones that played much when he did play outside. That is even if he retained any of that. I have my doubts after being dinged up and playing middle backer for an entire year.
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i dont give to fucks about curry.. i just want to upgrade our LB core
levy had hesitations last year and his rookie year as well.. he just isn’t a football player..
you cant forget how slow he was and just start over just b/c we got some help at LB for him
i donno what to call it but some of you have a very bad case of “kevin smith” syndrome we have had NO ONE there for years so we get one guy and all ov asudened he is a god among men..
watch him and i mean really watch him.. you will see that there are time where dosnt move at all on a play until the ball carry is already past him
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Why do you want to upgrade?
You don’t even know what you have in our linebackers yet. As Smurfy said, linebacker is a position that takes some time to get used to.
Durant is in a new defense with new players, so he has the most to learn in order to get comfortable. That is probably why he looked lost during preseason at times. If you watch the KC game though, Durant was probably our best defensive player. He is starting to hit his stride a bit.
Tulloch knows the base defense, but had to learn all of the wrinkles that have been installed in Detroit, and how to play with new teammates. He has had flashes of brilliance in the middle and he is going get better still.
Levy has had to adjust to the outside after playing in the middle even though he has been with the same defense and the same players. He has been OK, and he has made some very good plays. No, he has not been a standout, but he is young and in a new position. He will get better.
I really do not see why you insist on taking the huge contract that Curry got when we already have enough problems with the salary cap, and a linebacker corps that is slowly developing in a team strength. I think you are seriously overreacting on this. You need to give it more time.
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JD and ST have been here what 3 mounths? mayb 4..
and they are alredey light years better then levy.. they got use to how the DL plays.. the systum very fast…
levy has been here 3 years and still cant get it done..
and for likt the 10th time its not curry that i want stop puting words in my mouth.. i want a real player at LB.. not levy
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You watch him at all at the end of last season?not a football player…..I’m pretty sure he’s in the NFL.
but seriously
“Levy is not a football player”? What the hell do you even mean?
WHAT?
Come on man. Last year Levy was our only bright spot and the only LB you weren’t dogging, but now you’re flipping the script and saying he isn’t good at all? Why are you so hung up on our LBs being bad?
Let it go, man, this is getting ridiculous.
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He's been dogging Levy for as long as I can recall...
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Maybe my memory's just clouded.
But this is getting absurd to me.
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Usually I agree with you Mav...
But these are stats for our ‘bright spot’ last year?
11 G
72 tackles (50 solo, 22 assist), 2 INT’s (1 TD), and 6 PD…
Not exactly awe inspiring. Granted Curry has done less with his time, but I for one am absolutely not sold on Levy. Det is correct. Levy shows WAY too much hesitation in space. I have yet to see him make a real impact play outside of the pick last year.
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I dunno.
6 PD puts him tied at the top 32 LBs in the league; considering every team has between 3-4 starting LBs, that’s pretty good for only 11 games.
Similarly, 2 ints puts him tied at the top four LBs in the league; ditto.
And don’t forget his two fumble recoveries, which puts him T7
Maybe we differ on what “awe inspiring” is, but for 11 games I’d say that’s pretty [expletive deleted] amazing! We play a scheme that values coverage and solid play over being flashy. He may not be top tier in the league, but in this scheme he’s an all star for sure.
The only question on Levy I have is if he can remain healthy or not. If he does, I’m sold. Lock him down for years, he’s only going to get better.
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6-7 tackles a game isn't inspiring?
That’s 96-112 tackles for 16 games.
lol.
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Those are pretty good...
And if you recall, he played like one half of one series in the first Minnesota game. It counts as a game played, but it really wasn’t; he mostly amassed those stats in ten games, which makes those numbers even better.
I’m not going to calculate it out again, but earlier in the offseason I looked at the YPC allowed by the Lions in the games Levy didn’t play (plus the Minny game where he gave it a go and got pulled), and the YPC allowed in the games he did.
When he didn’t play they allowed the second highest YPC in the league, when he did play, Detroit’s YPC allowed was average. Not to mention the INTs and PDs.
Also, as a rookie, he led the NFL in run defeats. I think Levy is an above average 4-3 LB, and he’s managed to be one while getting jerked between MLB and OLB.
And lets be honest. Levy seemed hobbled early in the year.
He really did not start playing well until the last five games. Four of them wins. And two of those games he made the key defensive play [GB and Miami].
He has not set the world on fire yet this year, but I’d like to see him have a chance to get used to playing at OLB before rushing to judgement.
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by NorthLeft12 on Sep 23, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
i think you screwed yourself nate
those are solid numbers. and last year he wasnt even playing his natural position. Those numbers are pretty solid to me
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kinda repeated my self on that last sentace.
my bad ha ha
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NO
the numbers should be better if the Lions D-line was one of the worst. See NYGiants LBers and compare numbers. Than check out Tennessee’s tackle number in contrast.
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really?
look at the pack bears vikings ravens steelers raiders all have DLs that are better then the gients..
all also have better LBs then both us and the gients…
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Raiders,Pack,Steelers,Ravens all play 3-4
Apples to oranges my friend. The Vikings lbs aren’t the world beaters you are pretending they are. Finally, since when has Chi had a great dline. JuP and then who else?
by fiendishdr.wu on Sep 23, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
you joking about chi right? chi has a top 5 4-3 DL...
and maybe best front 7 least for 4-3.. steelers might have them for all 3-4 4-3..
no the vikings lbs are not the best ever.. but they are better the ours
as far as your 3-4 thing.. it has some gorund but the pack where the same way when they had a 4-3..
but anyway 4-3 or 3-4 its still goes back to the point the better(ie more aggresive) your DL is the better your LBs need to be
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this is why levys hesitton issues is such a problem for us..
our DL is so quick off the snap they more often then not run right by the RB.
and when the ball carry gets to the LBs it dosnt help us that one of them is haveing a full on brain fart 1/2 the time
you can say the same thing for screen pass’s
levy makes plays some times but they dont mak up for his falts imo.. and now that we have ST and JD his faluts look bigger and bigger with them geting mor comterble
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Ok, let me make it clear.
Chicago doesn’t have a great dline. I asked you to give me another impact player on their line outside of JuP, and still nothing. 2)The vikings lbs are better than ours based on what? 3)We weren’t talking about what they used to be in 4-3, they didn’t have Matthews and Raji in a 4-3. Lastly, 3-4 dlineman’s job is to get a push of the line and fill gaps so that the lbs can make the plays. In our system the dl goes and gets after it, and the lbs clean up the mess. Totally different philosphies.
by fiendishdr.wu on Sep 23, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares about numbers, this is a team game, go off tape not stats
Stats mean nothing because there is no baseline to compare them to. To know if Levy is as good at MLB he would have had to play with the Titans last year, in all the exact same snaps, with the exact same situations, players, and blocks made and missed, lanes to fill, etc. that Tulloch did.
It is truly impossible to objectively compare any one player to another. All it really comes down to is opinion, even professional scouts, they just watch a guy and give their opinion. The only thing that can be measured is stuff like height, weight, speed, etc. Stephen Tulloch, London Fletcher, and many others like Chris Spielman and Joe Schmidt have proven measurables to be folly.
When it comes down to it, at the end of the day, its all just opinion, and there is no way to prove right or wrong really. Even the Stafford versus Curry talk is moot, because who knows what Curry would have done in our scheme? With our coaches? And what if Stafford had ended up on the Seahawks? For all we know he could have had his career ended on injury rather than just delayed.
There are simply too many what if’s, and variables to know. All you can really do is look at your players, on your team, that your coaches have taken a chance on and say, hey this guy is working out or hey this guy is falling short of what my expectations are.
So far I am pretty damn happy with the Lions line backers, the team is 2-0, and until we are eliminated from the playoffs and I have seen more tape on them in our scheme longer there is no way I am going to say any of them “suck”.
Det32, you say we have the blinders on, I say you are being over critical and over reacting. If Curry is worth a shot then Mayhew and Co. will take that shot, if not meh. They have proven out thus far to be worthy of our trust.
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by Evilsmurf on Sep 23, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
i am not saying get curry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all i am saying is we need a improvment over levy.. and maybe curry will be that
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So in other words
We should get Curry lol
by fiendishdr.wu on Sep 23, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Levy
Is solid. However, I think Curry has major upside. I’d be ok with it if we ended up with him in another Mayhewing.
I think it all depends on the system Curry is in…if he finds the right fit, he will be very good. I wouldn’t give up on him just yet.
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I have seen Curry play many times
and recently against the Niners. While he is descent, he just does not seem to have much of an impact on the game. His tackles are made 5 to 10 yrds past the line of scrimmage. It was actually the middle of the 3rd quarter of the Niners v. Seahawks game when I said to myself " Shit, thats right. Curry is playing." Earl Thomas on the other hand. That dude is everywhere.
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LOL, this sounds familiar.
His tackles are made 5 to 10 yrds
I just can’t see him being worth all that much for us to get him any longer. A 4th maybe?
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agree on earl
He was everywhere vs niners
by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Sep 24, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Earl is the real deal
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Didn't people all say that about Tulloch?
How he only got tackles because he was doing clean-up 5-10 yards after the fact.
Except once he gets here, he’s playing lights out. This system and scheme highlights LBs that can play. Curry’s worth a look and fits into the achetype.
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As a unit their all played better in the KC game though.
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what has he sown to be soild?
i cant belive u said that..
your jokeing right?
soild?
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LOL
There you go again. No one is joking and you STILL have not given me another impact player on the Chicago bears dline hahaha.
by fiendishdr.wu on Sep 23, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
thers no point.. its prety clear you only know about the lions
nothing wrong with that though
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No, I know my football
I’m one of the few guys who liked the additions of Justin Durant and Eric Wright BEFORE the season started. I’m not a fantasy football player, I watch the league. It’s clear you don’t know what the fuck your talking about. Unfortunately you ran into someone who does. You wanna bullshit, that’s fine, there’s nothing wrong with that though.
by fiendishdr.wu on Sep 24, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
then it yout hatred for the bars blinding you
sorry dude but the bears have a top 5 DL
and you man love for levy isnt warented eaither.. he hasnt done much at all sinc he got here.. likr 3 or 4 plays.. the rest the time he just satnds there like he is clueless
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det32
The Bears DO NOT have a top 5 D-line anymore. That is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard you say here. Seriously, you’re starting to win the competition against Ralph for biggest idiot. And your opinion of Levy? About as intelligent as the man crush for your boy from UCLA…who suck donkey balls still by the way. Before we had Durant and Tulloch, all you could say was we need linebackers we need linebackers blah blah blah Ayers blahblah blahblah. Now we have Durant and Tulloch and you have to start dogging on Levy. I am sure I speak for more than myself when I say that I am sick of your shit. I wish you would shut up.
Julius Peppers is the ONLY “great” defensive lineman the Bears have. Idonije had 8 sacks last year…big deal. He has never had more than 3.5 in any other season. Last season was a flash in the pan for him. Henry Melton? A second year developmental player at best…junk at worst. Anthony Adams? His best days are past him, just like most of the Bears defense. So all you have is Peppers, and Peppers does NOT make their defensive line a top 5 contender.
No…you sir are overstating your bounds…arguing just to argue and stir the pot. The Bears currently rank 23rd in total yards allowed, 22nd in passing defense, and 20th against the run…but they have a top 5 defensive line?? HAHAHA! Guess what? The Bears ENTIRE defense SUCKS…and just because they have 6 sacks so far (two more than the Lions) means nothing. If they had a top 5 defensive line, then nobody would be running on them like they are. Bottom line…you’re wrong. Get over it.
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by KDawg on Sep 24, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
And when Cutler finally gets flattened for the last time this season.....
It will be race to the bottom of the NFC North between the Bears and the Vikes.
Because CHI’s O line sucks also.
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why dont we tradebfor briggs?
by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Sep 24, 2011 4:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Like Levy! YAY.
Problem solved.
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We don't want Briggs, he can't cover
Briggs is an amazing run stuffer, but Jimmy Graham made him his bitch in that Saints game. No at this point Durant is better than Briggs, mark it down.
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why would you say that
based on what? Because he was drafted 4th overall?
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bassed on our LBs still suck imo
levy should not be starting.. palmer and carp ar ok backups at best huge was ok in limeted play agrenst 3rd stringers…
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Newsflash! det32. Curry sucks worse.
The Seahawk fans were bitching about his poor play last year and now he is being pushed out of a job by a rookie fourth rounder.
By the way, I liked KJ Wright and was hoping the Lions would draft him.
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i will be honest i havent seen much of curry so maybe he does suck..
but levy is fucking horible
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You don't find it strange...
…that you’re the only person that thinks that?
I’ll trust Gunther, Schwartz and Mayhew
Please, no talking about LB'ers with Det32
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Det32 is telling the truth though
I happen to know that det32 is actually Ray Lewis, so if he says our lbs suck, our lbs suck. I mean, who would know better than him? Our head coach, dc, gm, scouts……HA foolishness. ALL HAIL DET32, ALL KNOWING LB GURU!
by fiendishdr.wu on Sep 22, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
No, I agree.
Maybe not to the extent of ‘fucking horrible’, but the guy is a stopgap at best.
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He's showing me otherwise so far this season.
And until I see that he’s a stopgap at best, I’ll stick by his side.
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Levy is FUCKING HORRIBLE?
Now thats just to frickin far. You might have a point with Aaron Curry is fucking horrible but DeAndre Levy is a solid player. Damn dude Levy isnt exactly Clay Matthews but he is better than fuckin horrible
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no.. he hesitates way to much... you guys have to be fucking with me
its like the Kevin smith shit all over again you get so obsessed with some o ne b/c we haven’t had any one there in years.. nd you let your blinders block you from seeing how bad they really are…
i’m sorry dud but levy sucks..
i remember arguing about smith with all u guys to.. where is he now??? plez take the blinders off and actually watch him compared to other teams LBs hell to our other 2 starting ones..
levy will be lucky to still be in the NFL in 3 years
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Hey man...
With all due respect, take this BS to a different site. We are all tired of reading it. You’re wrong…get over it.
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He's played a different position every season. Could that be where the hesitation is coming from?
I haven’t been exactly thrilled with the LB play, but he’s more then just a serviceable LB’er.
After that KC game, it’s possible they figured out something with how to play all 3 of them.
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i dont know why you guys are cuting him so much slack
we picked levy up in the 3rd.. he was a projected 7th(yes this mens very little if anything at all im just saying)
hhe had hesitation at the end of las year to ot like its a new thing
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I don't love him and I don't hate him.
I think I’ve been pretty harsh all preseason on the LB’ers. But they started to show something last week, so I’m going to hold off a bit and see what develops.
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Yup
He really brought it last week, I’m very anxious to see how they all play this week against AP.
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even befor the injure.. and after people where still saying he was good..
there where people on this site saying top 10 sfter the injure..
i
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it could be worse, we could have green bays defense
I mean they’re getting killed in games.
Jury still out, last year levy imo was injured and when he was healthy, his play helped us win games during the 4 game streak.
Now it is a new season, and so far they’re playing pretty well.
by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Sep 23, 2011 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dude dude dude
Im not obbsessed with him. Your the one that brought him up. the NFL isnt magic. you cant just get a better linebacker.
I agree he is the weak link of the group but he isnt THAT weak
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by Bballkid-22 on Sep 23, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
imo saying their terrible is a huge exageration
And comes off as a bit unreasonable.
So far their performance, and the overall performance of the defense has been pretty good, especially taking into account the flow of the game.
I say it is too early to say they’re terrible, and as for curry, I wouldn’t mind seeing what he’s got, but I am not sure who I would see off the roster for his sake
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Tulloch and Durant
are new additions this year forcing Levy to outside. So far they are doing good. i have no complaints. Give em a couple more weeks and they will be gelling just fine. Way to early to be talking trading LB’s now. Give em a chance man.
by Honalulublue on Sep 23, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
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I moved to Seattle from Detroit in 2006. Since then the hawks have gotten progressively worse every year. I can only conclude that not only was my presence in Detroit keeping the Lions down, but my moving to Seattle has subsequently had the same effect. As such, After 5 years in Seattle, I think its time I shift gears and relocate to Green Bay.
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Wayda take one for the team
I love the Lions, but moving to Green Bay is another level that I’m not willing to experience.
by LionsFanInJapan on Sep 22, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
After hearing your history Boourns, I think more than a few of us here will help you move.
LOL
How about you get a vacation home in the Chicago area too?
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
Can we clone you?
I propose one in every divisional city and one in new York just for kicks
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by Latif Masud on Sep 22, 2011 7:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not to mention Philly and Dallas.
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by TheLoneDavid on Sep 22, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I hang my head in shame
I wanted Curry over Stafford.
What a dolt I am.
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Just think, you weren't pushing for Vernon Gholston at least.
I wanted Curry also.
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I was on the Curry bandwagon...
And for once in 20 years, I am actually glad the Lions went against my opinion.
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That said...
I would still be happy to give Curry a shot here, now that we already have Staff.
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Just depends on the cost Dawg.
But I would like to see him here also. Where he would fit, ,,,,you got me?
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Maybe he could play DE
Or he could play strong side linebacker in our system…he has the skills to do so. He is not a great pass rusher, but that’s not what our ROLB does. Curry’s skillset is one that I believe would allow him to excel in our defense.
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Saw this coming for a while. Curry wondered aloud LAST year whether he might be on the trading block.
Seattle does have a history of getting the least out of its players. And Pete Carroll has shown that he has no problems ridding himself of players acquired by the past regime. Curry was a high draft pick for a reason. And the Lions at one time seemed intrigued by his athleticism. If he came cheap (and if he was willing to renegotiate his contract) I think he’d be an intriguing addition as a reclamation project.
He would be an awesome grab
Pete Carroll is a joke!!!! He obviously has no clue how to coach up professional athletes so I would snag Curry in a heart beat if it’s on the cheap. Carroll has no place in the NFL and should go back to cheating in college.
by Usmarine0341 on Sep 22, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Ayers
What about Akeem Ayers guys… common what about AYERS? I bet Tennessee would let him go for our 1st and third this year…. that guy is awesome!!!!!!!!!!
by Mayhewed on Sep 22, 2011 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Say the guy whose only contributions are to rag out on good players
You come here and try to rip apart good players, who everyone but you likes and values, and you NEVER…EVER…have anything to back it up with. You might say, “He sucks in coverage. He just stands there. He can’t tackle. He’s slow. I watched the tapes and he is just not any good. etc etc etc”, BUT that is NOT solid proof of anything! Your opinion is not the be all and end all of Lions football, and I would think that once you realized that your opinion was severely within the minority that you would keep it to yourself. Instead, you just spew it over and over and over like someone with Turrets Syndrome. Grow up.
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I can't believe you guys actually understand him.
I haven’t been able to read a single post he’s made since I got here, he’s like the literary equivalent of Mush Mouth.
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by TheLoneDavid on Sep 24, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i havent been the only person to bag on himm
there are a few in this thread alon saying he is a stop gap
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Name them
I want to see their logic and proof too.
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I'm not against bringing Curry in
For the right price Curry might be worth a look. You never know… the guy was a BEAST in college. I’m not saying we give up anything… maybe a 7th…. in 2015. With Gunther on his ass he might be a solid backup with huge special teams upside… all I’m saying is he might be able to fill a role… thats what its all about. With no risk involved (no guaranteed money after this year) it might be worth a shot.
+1
but we would have to let go of a linebacker. i just dont know who the odd man out is. Eeke hasnt been up to expectations in ST imo
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This is Exhibit A...
as to why the Scouting Combine needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Every year there is some beastly workout warrior who just lights up the combine and posts the most impressive numbers anyone’s ever seen. Every year there are fans who say, “OMG how can you not draft this guy, he ran a 4.32 40 and did 40 reps?”
I’m no expert; I’ll be the first to admit that, but I’ll trust the guys that break down and analyze film over workout numbers every time.
Curry was exceptional at the combine
But he didn’t blow everyone away. Curry’s vertical leap (37 inches) was 1.5 inches higher than Suh’s vertical. He was in talks for the first overall pick for a long time before the combine. The fact of the matter is he was a boss in college and Seattle can’t get production or improvement out of anybody not named Mike Williams.
Not sure what those things have to do with playing football.
Hope this finally makes people realize how unimportant all that crap is.
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My point is Curry wasn't much of a workout warrior
He had his high draft position mainly because of his college production. I think the talent is there with him but he is in a pretty crappy situation in Seattle. See: Lawrence Jackson, Nate Burleson, Rob Sims
by Kalzilla on Sep 22, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He was a monster at Wake
He almost single handedly made that defense. Well, him and a kid named the Phonse. He was known for playing smart. If he stopped doing that, I blame the coaches.
Curry would be better than Ashlee Palmer
I don’t know what kind of salary he’d be looking for though
I'd trade Flu for Curry straight up.
No question. Yeah we might not get much out of Curry, but we’re not really going to be getting much out of Flu any time soon. Flip extra depth in one area into needed depth in another area.
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That would be good.
Similar to the Cory Redding deal haha. Speaking of which did you guys know Redding is still playing and is now in Baltimore? That shocked me for whatever reason
Yeah I knew that
He was there all year last season
by The Profiler on Sep 22, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, how did that work out for us?
Who got mayhewed on that one? We also gave up a draft pick [fifth or sixth rounder].
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
by NorthLeft12 on Sep 23, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Julian Peterson had a nasty fall from grace
But he also led our team in tackles while doing that. Admittedly the Seahawks may have been on the better end of that deal (It was a 5th rounder the Lions gave up with Redding) but I would hardly call it a reverse mayhewing.
I brought up that trade just to point out the lineman for linebacker similarity really. Fluellen is better than Redding in my opinion. Curry’s got an amazingly high ceiling but he’s a huge if. This deal would be pretty risky now that I think about it and I think Seattle would have to throw in a late round pick to even it out but it seems like a textbook Mayhew project to me.
LOL.
Maybe, but I think that’s a little bit of wishful thinking. I think Flu for Curry straight up would be a rout on our part anyways.
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Flu is a solid, versatile player. I would not trade him for a high priced bust.
Flu is doing some good work in the small number of snaps he is getting. I like the depth that we have on the D Line and would not mess with it for Curry.
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by NorthLeft12 on Sep 23, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you see the article in the Freep today NL? Good read, showing how much more rest the starters are getting.
http://www.freep.com/article/20110923/SPORTS01/109230418/Lions-D-linemen-aided-by-extra-rest
So Fluellan and Sammie are getting a lot more reps.
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I was going to do a post about that using the snap count stats from PFF.
I think it is too early to say that the Lions are rotating their D Line more than last year, as the two games this year are not very good examples. ie. a very hot and humid Tampa game and an absolute blow out versus the Chiefs.
The next two weeks will probably tell the tale whether the Lions are really committed to giving Suh, KVB, Cliff, and Corey some serious blows.
I am really liking what Willie, Sammie Lee, and Flu have been doing when they get into the game.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
That was a Schwartz stated goal during off season interviews, so it makes sense that the starters snaps have dropped.....Good, it will pay off later in the season..
I love what they bring on the 2nd unit, especially SLH.
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There was actually a quote from Schwartz by one of the announcers last game
However many DL I dress is how many will see snaps in the game. They have made a big commitment to rotating this year, and I am glad of it, because I thought last year they did not rotate enough and therefore had gassed players in when they could have had solid depth playing fresh.
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Yeah but he's only getting the small amount of snaps because Fairley's out
And he failed to impress me in TB, he’s clearly the weak link on the line IMO.
He is a solid versatile player, which I think only sweetens our odds of getting good trade value out of him, but I’m telling you, he is not long for this team.
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I disagree. Flu is the kind of low cost, low profile contributor that the Lions need.
He is one of those guys that keeps improving every year and makes himself too valuable to let go.
I think he hangs around for another year or two before possibly signing with another team.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
by NorthLeft12 on Sep 24, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't Curry be exactly that kind of thing?
Low cost, low profile. Tuck him away on the roster, let him improve every year. We still need competent playing depth on the LB corps. If KVB and CWill go down, our dline is set. If any two of our starting LBs go down we bring in Carp (fine!) and… Palmer? Did that work out that well last year?
Just saying, excess depth at one position for needed depth at another. Only so many roster spots, these are the tough decisions you have to make to build a well rounded team.
Would you cut anyone off the dline before you cut Flu? If so, who?
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Don't forget about Doug Hogue.
In another year or so he will be moving up the depth charts IMO. And if the Lions pick up Curry, they will not cut a D Lineman, but an LB. Palmer?
I think the Lions should continue with nine D Line spots on the roster as long as KVB is on the team. At this stage in his career, I don’t think he can be relied on for the entire season. If one unit is going to be a strength then you better make sure it has the depth necessary to weather an injury or two.
I don’t see anyone else at any position that we cannot fill in from the practice squad or waivers in the event of an injury. D Line talent is becoming harder to find.
Look at how well Turk is doing with the Saints. Arguably their best D Lineman. PFF thinks so.
Curry is a project that will be expensive and will likely take awhile to fit into the system. I would sooner spend that roster spot on Doug Hogue.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
Palmer or Eke would probably be cut to make room
If Curry gets cut and we pick him up. But we couldn’t trade Palmer or Eke for Curry, which was kind of the point of talking about Flu.
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especially a bust about to be cut
Before detroit needed upgrade in talent, now theres better talent so we don’t have to try and take every bust who measured well.
Targeting good players to fit the system in yr 3 and beyond. Last yr and before mayhem would have taken gholston,maybin, curry….now not so much
by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Sep 24, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't call Curry a bust
I just think he is currently in the wrong system for his skillset.
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He's no bust IMO
He is still playing football. Could be something good down the road. A change of scene could just be the thing.
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I'd take this trade as well
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That's why I would take it
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I'll leave it up to the scouts, and the front office
Their track record far exceeds my judgement, to be sure. I"ve been wrong way more times than right about talent. My faith in the leadership in this organization is growing by the week.
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Apparently
Curry was demoted because being a top-tier SLB prospect isn’t good enough? The Seahawks want someone who not only plays SLB well, but someone who can pass rush too. What is Carroll thinking? With that team, you take what you can get. He’s going to waste Curry’s talents.
I really smell a Mayhew on this. There’s got to be some way we can play five linemen and four linebackers and two safeties and two cornerbacks every down, right?
Here, NFL. If you let us play 13 defensive players, we’ll only play 9 offensive players. Sound fair?
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Word.
There’s obviously talent there.
Add in the benching and Carrol just pushed his trade value down(?)
I liked the Fluellen trade idea. I’ve always liked and rooted for Flu… but if getting rid of him means bringing in better talent in the back 7, do it.
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I like Flu too...
But he isn’t even as good as Cory Redding was, and if we could get a guy like Curry (who is young and has lots of potential and a huge upside), I would be all for it.
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It's been awhile but this is one of the dumber conversations I've seen on here in a while
If Seattle is dumb enough to trade Curry to us for Flu and a 7th round pick, or even a future 6th round pick you do it, with out even blinking.
There are many many different players to stink on one team go to another and is very successful, and if he isn’t what do you lose, NOTHING…
Also did I read somewhere that Levy is fucking horrible, REALLY, REALLY REALLY
Det32 had a few too many concussions as a kid...
Screwed up his ability to scout linebackers.
by SweetLouDoubleU on Sep 23, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
comeon now
Now while i dont agree with his comment on Levy, im not going to say he should never scout linebacks again. he is one of the guys on here that bring their opinion on the table and defend it to the best of their ability. Det32 has knowledge on linebackers. This is just a bump in the road. Damn dude
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So far
our LBs have looked good this season. Who knows though under our coaching staff what if Aaron Curry turns into that top 5 pick that he was. If we could Mayhew them for Curry I would do it, look at Lawrence Jackson he has played great under our coaching staff
If Curry can play defensive end
then i’m game. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be worth the effort we’d have to make to create cap space.
The future is bright.
you might be on to something...
Trade Flu for Curry (with 7thor6th) and see if he can play DE?
maybe, maybe
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We cannot trade our 7th or 6th round pick easily...
considering that we do not know which one of them KC is going to get over the tampering charge.
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KC is not getting it!
I’ve said it multiple times. KC already got their pick. We FORFEIT a pick next year, no one gets it.
That said, the NFL was willing to let us use a 7th in the supplemental, so I’m assuming they’ll probably let us deal a 7th and just bump the fine up to 6th. And considering we have decent odds of making the playoffs at the rate we’re playing with the schedule we’ve got, we may wind up with it being the sixth anyways.
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also we could trade a 7th or 6th in 2013 draft
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Does Curry have the size to play as DE?
I didn’t think that Curry was that big that he could rotate as DE. It wouldn’t be terrible if we could get him for the right price, we have been a successful new home to almost all our new players it seems.
Also I think Levy is a pretty darn good LB. He may not be a star but watching the games you can tell that he knows the system and what he should be doing as a LB. He may hesitate sometimes but has shown good athleticism, tackling, cover skills, intuition, and general smartness. Guy is always near the play and his consistency and knowledge at the position make him a very valuable player for the team.
I think the K. Smith comparison may have some basis. But then again I still like K Smith and thought he did ok for us given the team he was on. Levy might not be in any pro-bowls anytime soon but he is a solid starter and still has a pretty good upside.
OK, we really need to get over the man crush on Curry.
The Lions ahve too many big contracts already and the VERY LAST thing they need to do is trade for a guy that has a giant contract and cannot seem to live up to his expectations. That’s just nuts!
Aaron Curry is a guy that had some great measurable and everybody fell in love with him over it. Despite all the physical skills you can ask for, Curry is not a stud at linebacker. Maybe it is coaching. Maybe it is his mental approach t the game. Maybe he was in the wrong system. I don’t know and I don’t care. He costs too much money to take that risk on him.
The Lions have signed two linebackers already in order to improve our defense. Durant was excellent in the KC game and he looks like he is starting to get comfortable here. Tulloch has been good and getting better steadily. We are going to need some money to resign these guys over the next couple of years and I really don’t want to spend it on a reclamation project like Curry and lose them.
Get over the name, and just move on.
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i dont think anyone has a man crush on him...
there are some that want to try him see if he sticks
there are some that want to try and up grade our OLB spot and maybe he will be that guy
then there are some that dont want him
no one in here is going gaga over him
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He is too expensive for the Lions to just take a flyer on him.
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How is he too expensive?
He likely restructures when he signs.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
A deal would probably be contingent on that point.
But any trade of a draft pick or giving up a productive player on our roster is too expensive IMO.
Curry will still be much more expensive than Palmer or Hogue.
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I also disagree about the man crush.
Why else would somebody want to bring in a guy that is getting paid WAAAYYYYY more than what he produces. If we could get Curry for a cheap contract it would be fine, but that isn’t going to happen in a trade. You get his existing contract in a trade.
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Do we even have the money for him?
Last I heard we were 3.3 mil or something like that under the cap, but that was a couple of weeks a go.
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I don't know for sure.
I have discovered that Curry restructured his rookie contract to a four year deal instead of six. In the process he gave up $5 million in guaranteed money in order to cut two years from the deal and become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season. The problem is that the contract details have not been released. There is some conjecture that Curry is making about $3.5 million this season in salary. If that is true then we do not have the cap room to have him on the roster without clearing at least $250K of salary when we cut the guy that he would replace.
I just have a serious problem with the Lions bringing in Aaron Curry as the highest paid linebacker on our roster when he hasn’t proven anything in this league. It would be a slap in the face to Tulloch especially who agreed to play in Detroit for $3.25 million for one year in order to prove himself. Bringing in an unproven Aaron Curry at a higher amount would not sit well I think.
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Yup, I agree. It's all about at what price.
It baffles me how the guy has just sunk into basically oblivion in 2 1/8 seasons. Like why? scheme? Did they ask him to gain or lose weight? Is he asked to do things that he didn’t show capable of doing in college? Just a shitty line in front of him unable to keep him clean?
He seemed like a hard worker, and a good kid.
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I think they wanted him to do things he isn't really suited to.
When you look at Curry’s game, he is really meant to be a strong side linebacker that plays in pass coverage. He is not really a pass rusher. I think that Seattle wanted more from him than that because they paid so much for him. So they forced him into being a rush linebacker when that is just not his game.
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Well.....
So they forced him into being a rush linebacker when that is just not his game.
We already have Bobby Carpenter, do we need another….lol
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Definitely wouldn't want Curry's existing contract, that's for sure.
But his contract can be renegotiated before a trade is finalized. Like McNabb and Reggie Bush.
by Stephen02120 on Sep 24, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
For those of you that don't think Levy has made any plays, you need to go watch the games again.
Here is an example…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc1jXH1s1yc
Did you see that guy that flashed into the backfield and got a hand on McCluster to just hang him up a split second? That was Deandre Levy. Did he hesitate to you? I don’t think so. Sure we would all have liked to see Levy make the tackle for a loss there, but his little trip up stopped McCluster from being able to make a cut on Delmas as Louis closed and stuffed him at the line of scrimmage. Essentially, that same play gashed the Lions for a big play in the first quarter and Levy was a big factor in helping to stop it that time.
Levy has not been stellar in the early part of the season, but some folks here are being too critical. He is making steady progress and he will be fine before it is all said and done.
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Oops, that wasn't Delmas that stuffed McCluster, it was LoJack.
But that makes my point even more critical. LoJack was running toward the sideline from the center of the field. If McCluster could ahve made a move on LoJack and made him miss, McCluster had blockers out in front and might have taken that house. The little trip-up by Levy was one of those little things that most people miss in these plays and never give credit for because they don’t show up on a score sheet, or in the highlight reels.
Levy has been fine. He just needs time to gain some comfort at his new position and he will start making more impact plays.
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Look dude, Levy has been pretty good before this season.
He posted about 70 tackles in what was only 10 games played last season. He played only two or three plays in one game, but it counted as a game played on the stats. That extrapolates out to 112 tackles over a full 16 game schedule. Then you have to realize that he played all but the final few games with a groin injury that slowed him. That is probably why he became more of an impact player toward the end of the season.
You of all people should be less critical of Levy. During the Ayers debate you kept saying that the Lions need linebackers that can play the pass. Well, Levy is pretty good against the pass. He had two interceptions down the stretch last season that sealed away victories for the Lions. He also ranked well up in the league in pass defenses despite the fact that he has missed about a third of the season.
I really don’t get it with you. You make these pronouncements about players, but you really don’t seem to base them on what actually happened on the field. I am sorry dude, but I have watched a lot of video on Levy and he is a good player. He is just adjusting to a new position is all.
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He makes these pronouncements...and never has anything to back it up
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I've more than backed him up dipshit...read on
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Then what does mean something?
I really don’t get where this is coming from. He’s got amazing stats that were most meaningful in our four game win stretch, it’s not like he was an MVP during a bunch of losses, he was playing well when we were winning, he was a good reason we were winning.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
any one looks good on highlights...
i am not looking at just the 2 past games i am looking at least year and year befor.. he has had probles the hole time
he isnt a football player
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Um, that play I posted was not a highlight.
I cut if from the game video myself to make a point. I can get you half a dozen more but I am not going to waste my YouTube space with them.
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BTW, if you were looking at last year, then you are definitely all wet.
Maybe a guy that is playing with a pulled groin will look a bit hesitant at times because it is hard to make fast cuts like that. Did you ever consider that at all? Even just a little bit?
One gain, if you take the 10 games that Levy played and project his stats out for the season, Levy would have been one of the better LBs in the league.
I am sorry dude. I am convinced that you just make opinions based on faulty impressions then you dig in your heels and defend them even when you have nothing to prove them with. I pretty much have to discount anything I hear you say about linebackers because you have made several incorrect judgments about them previously and you continue to say crazy things on the subject. I just don’t think you have any credibility on the subject any more.
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It is really pointless Tuff
This guy is so stubborn that he refuses to admit when he is wrong. Just look at the whole Akeem Ayers debacle…and that’s all you need to see to know what I mean.
Yeah…I am going to keep bringing it up det32. I am going to bring it up every single time you spew some tunnel vision, unibrow, senseless BS like the stuff you’re posting here. I am going to keep bringing it up until you either wake up and knock it off, or until you can’t take it and you leave.
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lol
i am a realist.. i am sick of getting odssed about avg players at best (k smith levy e.sims bly ect) we have sucked so long that people get so attached to a player that makes a play and they ignore the 10 bad ones before that one good play.. keep in you deliseal lie that levy is the best young LB to ever put on pads..
i will wait till he actually shows something worth a dam..
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Obsessed...
The only obsession I am seeing is your obsession with looking like you have no clue what you’re talking about. And the only delusion is the delusion that you are right.
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+1
i was gonna bring that play up but i forgot. McCluster is an electrifying player and probably wouldve made LoJack miss but Levy was there to clean up the mess
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To say Levy isn't a football player proves how dumb you are
Turn on your T.V. this Sunday and watch the Lions game. Then come back here and tell me that Levy is not a football player.
If you can do that you just may prove your point. That you know nothing and your brain cannot properly process what your eyes see.
by not a footballpler i mean he dosent have the skill
it taks more then a paycheck to be a player
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DeAndre Levy
Runs a 4.5 40 yard dash….but according to det32, he is slow.
According to det32, DeAndre Levy is not a football player, he has hesitation issues, and he is just plain terrible. Thank GOD that the REAL experts know better…
From Detroitlions.com:
2011: Moved from the middle to outside linebacker.
Was part of a defensive unit that allowed just 56 yards on the ground against the Buccaneers (9/11). It is the lowest rushing total allowed by the Lions on the road in a season opener since allowing 31 yards at Seattle September 12, 1999. It was also their lowest rushing total allowed overall on opening day since limiting the Green Bay Packers to 46 yards September 11, 2005. No Bucs running back rushed for more than 15 yards and just 1 of their 17 first downs came on the ground. Tampa’s leading rusher was QB Josh Freeman, who finished with 26 yards.
In the first half, the defense allowed just 6 points and limited the Bucs to just 8:15 of possession time in the first two quarters.
Recorded 7 tackles (second-best among team) vs. Kansas City (9/18). Was part of a team effort that registered 6 turnovers in the game against the Chiefs, including 3 interceptions and 3 fumble recoveries. It marked the first time since the Lions claimed a 24-17 win at Houston (Oilers, 12/10/95) that the team had 3 interceptions and 3 fumble recoveries.
2010: Levy battled through injuries and solidified team’s starting middle linebacker. Recorded 72 tackles (54 solo) in 11 games (11 solo).
Was inactive for the season opener at Chicago (9/12) and vs. Philadelphia (9/19) due to a groin injury.
Returned to the starting line-up at Minnesota (9/26), recording 2 solo stops.
Inactive at Green Bay (10/3), vs. St. Louis (10/10) and at the New York Giants (10/17) due to a groin injury.
Returned to starting lineup against Washington (10/31) after being out three weeks due to a groin injury. Recorded four tackles (4 solo).
Led the team with 10 tackles (9 solo) against the New York Jets (11/7).
Recorded 6 tackles (3 solo) at Buffalo (11/14). Had one forced fumble.
Led team with 6 solo (7 total) tackles at Dallas (11/21). Fumble recovery near end of second half to set up Nate Burleson touchdown catch from Shaun Hill.
Recorded six tackles (2 solo) against Chicago (12/5).
Led team with 8 tackles (2 solo), two pass defenses and interception against Green Bay (12/12). Interception in endzone that stopped Green Bay’s drive.
Led the team with 11 tackles (11 solo) along with one pass defense at Tampa Bay (12/19).
Capped off Lions fourth quarter come-from-behind win at Miami (12/26) when he returned an interception 30 yards for a touchdown that broke a 27-27 tie with 2:11 left in the game and catapulted the Lions victory. It was his third career interception and first career interception return for a touchdown. Along with the interception, Levy finished the game with 4 tackles.
Levy’s interception return for touchdown against the Dolphins marked just the third time since 1991 that a Lions player has returned an interception for a touchdown in the fourth quarter that gave the Lions the lead in a victory. The last time it occurred was when CB Keith Smith returned an interception 64 yards for a touchdown with 13:14 in the fourth quarter vs. the Chicago Bears September 30, 2007 to make the score 17-3 (Lions won 37-27). Previous to that, the last time only other time it has occurred since 1991 was when CB Sheldon White (now the team’s VP of Pro Personnel) returned an interception 18 yards for a touchdown with 9:41 to play in the fourth quarter at Buffalo December 22, 1991 that gave the Lions a 14-7 lead which helped the claim a 17-14 win in overtime.
Levy became the first Lions linebacker to return an interception for a touchdown since LB Paris Lenon registered a 61-yard interception return for a score vs. Kansas City December 23, 2007.
Led team with 11 tackles (4 solo) in season-ending win vs. Minnesota (1/2).
2009: Played in all 16 games and started in 10. According to NFL.com rankings, he ranked third among rookie linebackers with 85 tackles (including special teams tackles) and tied for fourth among all rookies.
Made eight tackles (seven solo) at Chicago (10/4) and forced a fumble.
Garnered four tackles (four solo) vs. Pittsburgh (10/11).
Recorded first-career interception at Green Bay (10/18) and seven tackles (five solo).
Tied his career-high with eight tackles (4 solo) vs. Cleveland (11/22).
Tallied eight tackles (five solo) vs. Green Bay (11/26).
Made seven stops (four solo) including one behind the line of scrimmage at Cincinnati (12/6).
Posted a team-best eight tackles (five solo), tying his career-high while also recording a pass defensed at San Francisco (12/27).
Set a career-high with 12 tackles (eight solo) vs. Chicago (1/3) including one tackle-for-loss.
Yeah…he sucks…he’s just one of the best and most versatile young linebackers in the NFL. What a joke…
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Damn it...all of that bio was supposed to be in blockquotes...
Here’s the link:
http://www.detroitlions.com/team/roster/DeAndre-Levy/99cae49a-298f-454b-a16d-0d88dff0bac7
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by slow i ment hesatent not "slow slow"
now i know your drunk the best LB in the nfl?? com on now…
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i realy cant belve u sid that... the best young LB in the nfl.. wow kdawg just wow...
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you are incredibly stubborn
all you do is keep repeating the same things over and over after several people have given you video evidence, statistical evidence, and good ol’ logic supporting their claims. All you do is harp on about how “hesitant” Levy is and how he is not a football player. That means absolutely nothing except that you think those things. Show us proof. Show me how he has been a detriment to our defense for an entire season. Give me something here.
Why do we tolerate trolls?
u can subject somting all you want
any one looks good in highligts.. i never said levy didn make a single play.. all i said was the few playes he does make dosnt make up for the ones he dosent an shoul make if he is truly:the best young LB in the NFL" he would be makeing them
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well, Levy seems here to stay
Sorry you have to subject yourself to his hesitating and craptastic football skilsl. When they ship him out of here, you can have a nice laugh about how wrong everyone on PoD was.
Lions are 2-0 and the defense will continue to get better. Remember the end of last season? We had hope because of those last four games. This team is riding the momentum of W’s and will only improve. Levy, too.
we have give levy to much time you can say it b/c he has been moving all you want but correct me if i am wrong
JS has said a few time "when you start making excuses for players you get your self into trouble..’
the ecate wording might be off but the over all point is still there and it is true good players can handle being moved around with out missing a beat
as a few here have agreed with me levy is a stop gap.. i might be harder on him then most the other people that dont like him but that only b/c i am really getting sick of settling for avg.. and homers like people saying levy is the best LB in the nfl.. or k smith is in the same group as AP..
i go by what they have shown not what they might do someday if they get more comfortable in the system and/or with there team ates..
what happens here in few weeks when Farlay is back? will Levy need to relearn again??
with how this team drafts i think there is a good chance we go DE next year so will you guys be saying this again? levy just need to get use to the new DE in front of him??
like JS said stop making excuses injury moving around w/e… this is how i look at him
3rd year as a pro
3rd year with same systum
3rd year with same DC
3rd year with same LB coach
2nd year with same DL
2nd for year for haveing mostly same starters
still has hesitiont problems. like he is still adjusting to the speed or something i donno what id in his head all i know is he isnt where he needs to be at this point in his carrere with the teamates he has and his coaches
he still makes more “bad plays” or is “out of postion” more then he makes the play
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Let's see...
1) 3rd on the team in tackles as a rookie that started JUST 10 games.
2) 3rd on the team in tackles in his second season, playing just 11 games due to injury…and STILL coming back to lead the defense in the last 4 games.
3) Has played TWO games in his THIRD season…yet the jury has made their decision already in your case. Apparently you’re smarter than Martin Mayhew, Jim Schwartz, AND Gunther Cunningham.
4) Came up big for us against KC, with 7 tackles. Justin Durant had 11 to lead the team. Tulloch had 3.
And the list of evidence against you goes on and on and on and on and on….
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Detriots culture has changed
Jim Schwartz doesnt cut players slack. he would sit his ass down if he was no good.
how are we cutting him slack? He might now be ray lewis but he did have 7 tackles agaisnt KC. and tulloch only had 3!
Im sure if he fucking sucked that he would be out of town by now. Look at Jordon Dizon and Teddy Lehman. they were out of town by 2-3 years. DeAndre Levy doesnt suck and we dont cut him slack and all we do is have edvindence and stats. Your wrong, just admitt it
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it also doesn't help that you just don't seem to be able to string together an intelligible sentence
my god, man, your writing is an absolute mess. i can’t take you seriously. are you about to graduate from middle school?
so the English language has something to do with football now?? and your calling me ignorant?? your the one that needs to get over him self
not ever one is lucky like you to grow up speaking English.. you must be perfect in every way
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actually I didn't grow up speaking English.
I grew up speaking Urdu. My family is from Pakistan.
Well DET, I do understand at least what your looking at....
When your talking about Levy’s “hesitating”.
I haven’t been thrilled with how he’s played but he did show something in last weeks game, so maybe these guys are onto the “they just have to jell” and that’s where the hesitation is coming from.
Take a breath and let’s see how this develops, because we need fast Lb’ers and Levy does have the speed.
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by delusional on Sep 24, 2011 4:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i aorecate someone that can see that though
not just say “levy is the best LB in the nfl” and “ayers sucks”
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Can i just say ....
This is one of the most interesting conversations Ive read on here in a long time.
My 2 cents real fast: Seems like some Hugs need to be given out here.
@ the post and some of the comments. I think that the whole Curry thing is similar to LoJack and Sims as you cant put Nate in that convo as he was a FA though he came from there. Seems like he doesnt fit the system and is getting the raw end of the deal. A trade prospect …. meh i dont know bout all that .. especially if it means trading some D Line this year. I think we need the depth for the long season ahead incase they make the playoffs. Especially not Flu as we are kinda thin on the ends and he is just as important of giving some freshness there as he is in the middle due to his versatility.
@ the Levy convo … isnt this technically his 3rd year so he should be poised to have a very solid season and I think the Jury is still out on him especially w/ switching back to the OLB. Right now its early in season so its hard to gauge in terms for a bit longer say another 4-6 weeks. @ the hesitation thats being seen. Right now do you want to be the guy on the field that takes the blame for a blown play ? Not on this defense and not this year its this mental thing I think he needs to get over and just make the plays. I would also say the shortened season and getting back in rhythm is playing part in the early season.
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by JaiGaiaAries on Sep 24, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i think you are right on with curry i havent seen him nuch but i do think it is more of how he is used then not fiting..
maybe that is levys probley to.. keep in mind all our LB spot are asitonly the sameso weater its right left midle w/e its the same basic thing.. so mayb he needs something diff..
i just fell 3 years should be good enoghe he hasnt shown any thing spectaculer..
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I wasn't going to post but JaiGaia's post changed my mind
In regard to Levy I think the jury is indeed still out. It’s not reasonable to outright dismiss him or go so far as to say isn’t a player. I’ll write that off as emotion more than actual assessment. I hope that’s correct. If not then I know there’s no point going further with this comment, but I will.
Levy, as I see him, is on the fast side of things. I’ve also thought a bit about the hesitation I’ve seen. I wrote it off as him getting back in the mindset of his current role. There were times it showed last season but not much and not like this, imo. It’s way to early to write him off in any way. I believe you’ll see more and more of him, and the unit as a whole, as they gel and settle in to the role. He hasn’t been having big gaffs out there or anything, in fact he’s been a solid contributor.
As far as Curry goes, I’m skeptical but if he’s available at the right price, ala CHEAP, why not try? The roster spot becomes an issue tho. I suppose the easiest possible victim would be a fellow LB, Ekejiuba comes to mind.
Relax, take a breath, and enjoy the good that we’re seeing…. and keep an eye and word on what’s wrong. I just hope you can keep it, knowing it is still just opinion, in perspective.
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
see he also sees hesitation
i am not going to re read everthing kdawg but there are tons of people that are seeing it..
to me its been going on to long for him to get past it.. others still have hope.. but thestatistic are agenst levy get the hang of things at this point
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i believe he it isn't a major concern tho
it isn’t all of the time by any means. It also is easily written off to position adjustment. Let’s pick this up as the weeks go on and keep our eye on him. Don’t write him off just yet tho bro
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but you still see it.. kdawg is so dtunk on koolaid that he thinks there is no way anyone els sees it
histroy has proven he wont pick it up is the problem.. could he?? sure…. but 9 out of 10 he wont just how the nfl is
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sure he hesitates
that doesnt mean hes horrible and isnt a football player
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Learn to read you dim witted slob...
I said:
Yeah…he sucks…he’s just one of the best and most versatile young linebackers in the NFL. What a joke…
Let me break that down to a first grade English level for you…first part “Yeah…he sucks…” is SARCASM, just for you. Second part “he’s just ONE OF THE BEST AND MOST VERSATILE young linebackers in the NFL”…notice the words in capitol letters, “ONE OF THE BEST AND MOST VERSATILE”…they mean he is an individual player, in the NFL, that ranks AMONG the top for linebackers at his age, with his level of experience AND VERSATILITY. I never once said that he is THE best young linebacker in the NFL. And the last part “What a joke…” means that your opinion on the subject is a joke, and a bad one at that.
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its really geting sad...
more then 1/2 the people in this thread see the hesatiton a few are saying stop gap.. i am probley the biggst agenst him..
but that is b/c i am so dam sic of avg players geting blown up to be beast.. whert you a k smith lover to? telling my how dumb i was to say he wouldnt be in the nfl by this time? where is he now??
it is a perfect case of people geting overly attched b/c we have been bad so long you compare him to the trash we have hadd over the years and not to who is playing on other teams
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Curry is a young, athletic, good coverage line backer, who is not physical at the point of attack, gets washed out against the run, and tends to make many Ernie Sims like tackles 5-10 yards down field
Make no mistake about it, getting him is about a lateral move to Ashlee Palmer or Dogue Hogue, and his contract simply is not worth it. Sure part of his issues are being in Seattle, But I just don’t know if he is worth taking the cap hit for a 4th or 5th string line backer on our roster.
As for Levy, this is for you Det32.
His rookie year he was a bit undersized and played on the left side for us. Larry Foote was in the middle. Last year he was moved to middle backer and got a groin injury in training camp. It nagged him all year and he played with little or not practice. Much like Louis Delmas, both of them played gimped, and a bit rusty from not getting practice reps. So you can throw last year out the window. Of course you are going to hesitate when you are playing with a groin injury!
This year he and Tulloch swapped around in camp a lot, and the coached put him back on the outside, left side backer. Now he is settling in to his 2nd position change in two years, he has two new linebackers to play next to and he has a new corner and nickle to play with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rVTWRIEcvs&feature=related
The unit was obviously a concern for Lions general manager Martin Mayhew heading into the offseason and he rectified some glaring deficiencies by signing veteran free agents Stephen Tulloch and Justin Durant to team with Levy.
“It takes time to develop chemistry and just learning how to play off of each other,” Durant said after practice Wednesday. “We’re all learning each other and trying to mesh and get everything down pat. It’s coming along well so far.”
“I think there is something to all three guys playing together, along with our safeties, and they need to understand the guys in the front and be able to play off those guys,” Schwartz said. “All of those guys are veteran players now. Levy is into his third year, Tulloch six and I think Durant five, so these guys have a lot of starts and have played a lot. So, it’s not so much they have to learn the defense, but sort of understand how each other play and things like that.”
From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110818/SPORTS0101/108180373/DeAndre-Levy—Jim-Schwartz-like-Lions—linebackers#ixzz1YuDvjnvd
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oops that first paragraph in the quote was supposed to be this, miss copied
Last season alone, Levy, who missed five games because of injury, started alongside five linebackers through the course of the season. The patchwork unit was widely inconsistent as a result and one reason the Lions ranked 24th against the run and 21st in overall defense.
From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110818/SPORTS0101/108180373/DeAndre-Levy—Jim-Schwartz-like-Lions—linebackers#ixzz1YuE7PeAO
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Det32, Coach Schwartz disagrees with you
“We really like DeAndre,” reiterated coach Jim Schwartz. “Hopefully we can get some more (players) like him.”
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5323/deandre-levy
For now I think I will continue to think that the head coach of our team knows what the fuck he is talking about, and you do not.
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Hey Smurfer.....good choice on that 226 by the way.
I have a 2022 and I’m saving up for a 238.
I seen your post the other day.
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Oh yeah, I had it for years now, the thing is beautiful, so smooth when it fires
I have the S&W .40 barrel in it, but can swap to a .357 if I want to by just getting the new barrel piece. Personally I think the 40 cal is perfect for me. It is a bit loud, and has a hell of a lot more kick than a 9 mil, but it also has a lot more velocity and not near the bang / kick that a 45, 44 mag, or a 50 cal have.
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German made? or Exeter?
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If your ever looking for ammo, I have a link for a dude that sells reloads at a very good price.
It’s very good stuff, no FTF’s or FTE’s in any of mine using it. About 35% cheaper.
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I have not went shooting for some time, I used to go once a month or so, but the 40 cal ammo was about $80 for one shooting session, and since I am a broke ass, just can’t afford it right now
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I just checked the price list...
.40 cal FMJ 165 gr…..50 rds…..$10.00
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by delusional on Sep 24, 2011 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Look, the Lions linebacekrs are just not as bad as you are saying det32
The Lions have given up only six first down on running plays this season and almost all of those have been on long runs. The problem with the Lions running defense has been giving up the big plays. If you take the four or five big runs that have been made against the defense, then you wouldn’t be saying squat, because the Lions would have one of the best statistical running defenses in the league.
The defense has generally adjusted well and played the run well overall. They just have to cut down on the big gainers some and they will be just fine. If you want a little perspective on that, just as many of the big runs went to the Durant side of the field as to the Levy side. The big gainer by LeRon McClain was in the A gap, so that was on Tulloch too. So if you want to point fingers, then Durant and Tulloch are just as much to blame as Levy. So where are your complaints about them?
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they are jelling better in less time... levy has been here 3 years and still seems clueless at times
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I seem to remember a lot of folks complaining about Durant...
until he broke out against KC. It really doesn’t matter if Levy takes a couple games longer.to get on track, just as long as he does. The Lions are not about to bail on him unless he struggles into the second half of the season, and that isn’t going to happen. You are going to have to live with Levy for a lot of years I think.
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so now you are saying he is slacking??
make up your mind
you dont know if he will get his head out his ass you can hope all you want but we dont know.. and in the nfl more often then not the player doesn’t get it.. he doesn’t jell.. he doesn’t pick up on the pace.. ect.. so you assuming he will have no problem is a little premature
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I think the MN game is going to be a good test of Levy
I suspect we’ll see a lot of AP breaks to the side (because I expect to see Tulloch as “Johnny on the spot” to thump AP). We’ll also see a lot of TE screens right at him. Beyond that, perhaps some Gerhart drops his way to thump him up.
Ya Levy, and/or Durant could end up having a heckuva day! If Levy does make a good showing I wouldn’t expect it to change your opinion, but I hope it would open your eyes due to an open mind.
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indeed, but we disagree that it's been that often or the major of a problem.
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Please do not put words in my mouth...
I never said he is slacking. I said he is taking a little longer to put his game together than the other LBs, but he is also younger and less experienced than Durant and Tulloch. I don’t think that him taking a little longer to figure out his new position and role is necessarily a problem. I expect that he will do fine. I am just not as impatient as you are. I am willing to wait for him to come around.
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i have waited 3 years for him.. i am sick of waiting
no excuses.. dont care if he was injured(stafford was and look at him) dont care if he has been moved around..
i go by what he HAS done not what he MIGHT do..
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i guess the NFL should just ban him from football then
cuz he hasnt done anything, right?
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in fairness about Durant critique,
it’s a situation he always showed areas of question. It’s just he’s showing a lot less with every single game he’s played for us. I was kind of scratching my head about him very early on. Now he’s at the point where he actually showed quite well, as you point out. His adaptation is still a work in progress but I think we have guy able to push the level of competition here for some time to come. At this pace he’ll have me stop wishing Carpenter was getting more time quickly.
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Clueless? Come on now....
The LB’er position hax been in a state of flux for 3 years, it looks like their starting to settle in, finally.
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by delusional on Sep 24, 2011 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So by your logic
A great chef that is young and can’t cook quickly would not be a chef. Or a professional driver going slow because of a snow storm has no talent. Part of being a line backer its being able to read the play and get yourself in position to make a play. IF there is hesitation it may be for good reason. He can get quicker at making reads. Nowhere do I see anything that talks about Levy not having the skill set to be an effective starting LB.
I believe Levy was a this round pick? And seems to be worth his draft spot. Granted he’s not a superstar but he’s no bum. I would love to see Hogue learn the position and become a beast for us at LB but until then I will take Levy over the other LBs out there.
Levy>Curry>Maybin>Ayers
by Northern Lite on Sep 24, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
what acutly watching people and what the have done? basing my assesment off that not what might happon if he maybe starts to jell??
lot of “IFs” in the latter
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you cant compare cooking to playing football..
one is about speed.. the other is about meny things.. but mostly bring famley togather imo..
and pro drivers can drive in the snow.. if you cant drive in the snow u suck at driving…
levy was a 3rd round pick.. he was a projected 7th though.. but the draft means very little if anything at all in your 3rd year..
yes there is reading plays but that not allways what he is doing there are a few times last year where he stud there as the guy ran by him didn even move a inc.. i rember b/c i watched it like 10 times on slow mo b/c i could not belive it..
dont grade him on what you are hopeing well happon base it off what has happoned
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I dont like to do this but its time
Det32 I understand your position on Levy but on Levy you are also dead wrong. They (Schwartz and Co.) believed he could anchor the MLB position if we had not gotten Tulloch he would be on the inside w/ Durant and Carpenter on the outside. He isnt even struggling right now and if he was I believe he would be pulled (ala Cherilus though he was benched for aggression) due to not being able to perform his duties.
Is Levy 1337 ? no he isnt but he has the potential to be a great starting LB in this system. I said I didnt like to do this but why are you steadily coming back to the post saying the same thing we heard you… we got it … some have even agreed w/ your position but its TIME TO LET IT GO … lets let his play on the field speak for him and if mid or end season you are right you can come back here and say see I told you so …. whats better than that? Nothing because right now the argument you make is Moot in points as there is plenty of evidence that says otherwise. I actually havent seen you show “proof Levy isnt semi proven” … Am I high on Levy ? NO but this was about Curry who would not be an upgrade over Levy … not only does he know the defense but he is a play caller and can be inserted if say Tulloch starts coming up short. Curry would be a reach
Speaking of Tulloch, Im not down on the guy by far he’s played well but I could make a point that as far as startering LB’s go he’s the weak link starting. Y you may say, because he technically isnt as versatile and can only play one position MLB/ILB. Its the very reason why Levy HAS to play outside but was given a second helmet w/ a mic in it … hmmm now do you honestly believe that Schwartz and them would have did that if they didnt think .. better yet KNOW … that he was a capable LB that can make a difference in a game.
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I read this whole thread, throw the towel in, dude.
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LOL, you are just about learn about det32
he never gives up. He will argue and say crazy things until he has everybody else here wanting to kick his ass, but he won’t give up. Nice try though.
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Yup, that about sums it up.
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by delusional on Sep 24, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sorry.. i go by what i see not by what might happon..
and that a big might
the odds of makeing the NFL are alredey slim to none the odds of fixing a problem you have had for last few years are even less likley
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there has also been plenty of people to say they have seen his hesitation
but for some reason it doesn’t scare them
i have been a lion fan to long to think everything will be ok.. they players that have problems like hesitation never get better.. they get worse
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I go by what I see also, but there's been a ray of hope now with some stability and added talent.
They had almost 20 tackles between the 3 of them last game, you have got to let this play out for a few more games to see how they gel.
They looked bad early, but it may be changing.
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by delusional on Sep 24, 2011 10:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you guys keep saying "may might maybe could"
i am going by right now the nfl is such a hard place to sucseed you cant bank on him geting over that hump.. you basicly have to assume he wont make it over it b/c that what the odds are most players dont.. i am done drinking the koolaid on players then geting disapointed..
i was the only one saying k smith was donkey shit and agin all you guys where jobing doe my throat saying he is a top 5 RB ect ect.. and where is he now??
people are geting way to attced to players.. compare them to the rest of the nfl not ours from the 2000’s..
what does levy look like next to greenway? or briggs or urlacer or lewies or suggs or mathews list goes on and on.. he looks like HS player when you start compaering him to real LBs
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For someone who is slow to react and looks lost.
He’s got an awful lot of pass deflections, interceptions, and forced fumbles. That’s kind of entirely reaction and situational awareness.
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1/2 the people in this thread say the see the hesitation.. in fact you and kdawg might be the only 2 that dont
grated i see it as a bigger problem then they do.. but that b/c this is the nfl.. “wish in one hand shit in the other see what fills up first” hope the levy “my might maybe could” start to jell.. i will go by the odds that are heavily against him and what is happening right now
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You still on this one?
I wouldn’t say 1/2 the people see the hesitation, but some will admit that it’s there.
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well some dont say onthing eaith way they just say "ayers"
so i dont even include them witch drops the numbers alot
anyway the point is other people are seeing it.. so they people that arent need to wake up
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Do you want him to not hesitate?
Want him to be so aggressive that he blows coverage and takes bad lanes? Whatever he’s doing, it’s been working.
If it ain’t broke…
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by Northern Lite on Sep 25, 2011 8:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Tulloch sure did get deeply involved with the community charity fast.
Props to him for giving back.
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