Lions Notes: Matthew Stafford Nominated For GMC Never Say Never Moment Of The Week
by Sean Yuille on Sep 27, 2011 11:04 AM EDT
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- Matthew Stafford and the Lions are up for the Week 3 GMC Never Say Never Moment of the Week.
- The announcers for Sunday's game between the Lions and Cowboys will be Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. On the one hand, it's good that the Lions are playing well enough to get the top broadcasting crew, but on the other hand, it's another broadcasting crew I am not a fan of. I guess I could say that about most of FOX's announcers, though. There is very little talent in most of their lineups.
- Ryan Donahue had quite the game on Sunday, and Jim Schwartz said on Monday that Donahue's average hang time was 4.65 seconds.
- Schwartz had nothing but praise for Brandon Pettigrew, who played a crucial role in the Lions winning on Sunday.
- Schwartz explained on Monday why he was shouting at the officials to "learn the f---ing rules" after Sunday's game.
- Isaiah Ekejiuba hurt his shoulder during Sunday's game and underwent further testing on Monday.
- Aaron Berry hurt his groin on Sunday. If he can't play this week, this could be the opening that allows Alphonso Smith to return to the lineup.
- The awesome catch Calvin Johnson made in overtime to set up the game-winning field goal was something he and Matthew Stafford practiced during warmups.
- According to Jon Zimmer, 75.9 percent of teams that have started 3-0 since 1990 have made the playoffs. This means there are no guarantees, but the Lions are certainly in good shape after starting the season with three straight wins.
- Here's an amazing stat (from FS Detroit via Philip Zaroo): This is the first time the Lions and Tigers have been in first place at the same time since Sept. 29, 1980.
- Vikings running back Adrian Peterson understandably isn't too happy with not getting a ton of carries in the second half.
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Peterson should be upset.
I don’t know who calls the plays on offense, but if he just kept feeding Peterson the ball we probably wouldn’t have won that game. Going nuts with the passing game when you have an over the hill McNabb and a questionable group of receivers (outside of Harvin, who also didn’t play much in the second half) makes little to no sense to me.
But hey, I’m happy with it. The play-calling meltdown is what allowed us to get back in the game.
Agreed
I don’t know why they didn’t feed Peterson the ball, they could have won. Thanks Chilly Light!
by pleaselionswinasuperbowlbeforeidie on Sep 27, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Based on how he was running after the 43 yard run, that makes for a lot of three and outs.
If you just look at the rest of his runs, that makes for an average of two yards per carry.
It’s about time that Lions fans give our LBs and Safeties some credit for being all over Peterson after that long run.
Here are his runs by drive:
1. 3, 1, 4, 43, 0
2. 7, 6
3. 1, -1, 29 called back due to holding penalty.
4. 1, 6TD
5. 1
6. 0 End of first half.
7. 2
8. No carries.
9. 6
10. 14 called back due to a holding penalty, -1, 2, Gerhart gets stuffed on 4th down.
11. -4
12. No carries this drive as there are 2 minutes and thirty seconds left and Vikings are trailing 23 to 20.
Not to many guys here want to admit it but the Lions had a pretty good bead on Peterson on pretty much every play but his one long run. Tulloch played a great game IMO.
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by NorthLeft12 on Sep 27, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Indeed
our D will give up a big one every now and again because of the weakness in the scheme IMO. But for the most part we will be very stout and they will need to hold to enable their RB to get loose. That bodes well because teams will still try and run the ball occasionally, but it will usually put them in tough passing situations…which obviously plays into our game plan. People want to hate on Frazier, and I do for the 4th down call and a few other things, but you don’t want McNabb to be back there in 3rd and longs all game…that’s WAY to risky against us!
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Good breakdown.
I did the same exercise yesterday while everyone was wondering why they stopped giving the ball to Peterson. When you look at it this way, it becomes pretty clear.
No slogans. Just win!!!
all that is clear is they stopped going to him.
which is a poor gameplan for them to not utilize their best player more. even if he is getting stopped, you need to keep feeding him – especially when you are up by 20 in the 3rd quarter.
Maybe they believe Harvin is their best player.
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no but in the same way that we ended up going to Pettigrew, because of our weakness in the running game
the Vikings tried to go to their other weapons given how much we were focusing on AP. The main difference being we actually have other weapons to go to, whereas they have…well a Percy Harvin with an upset stomach on the side.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Michael Jenkins actually did pretty good on us, and their tight ends had some big catches, just not enough of them
If you ask me, the only mistakes in not going to AP were on the short yardage plays. The 3rd and 1 where they threw to Harvin, and the 4th and 1 run to Gerhart. But given the amount of 1 or less yard plays I can also understand the use of A. P. as a decoy.
It is pretty easy to criticize in hindsight but I think that sometimes people lose sight of the fact that this is a team game. The Vikings did not need to go to Adrian Peterson, they needed other players to actually make some plays. If you are a one trick pony in the NFL you are doomed to only moderate success, no matter how good that trick is, ultimately you will fail in the quest for a championship. Lions fans should know that better than anyone with all that we went through in the Barry Sanders era.
No the Vikings coaches are doing it right, one man does not a team make. If the other players cannot play then they need to know, so that they can look to upgrade and replace them in the future.
To some degree I understand what is being said about not going to A. P. But there is also a flip side to that coin that makes sense to me as well. As good as he is, A. P. is not the team, and to rely on him so heavily is to set yourself up to fail down the road. In the larger picture, a team has to rely on all of its talent and play makers. A team must be able to depend on the next man in line, and they must allow them to get battle tested and hardened for when they will be truly needed. Harvin and Gerhart are the next men in line.
The coaches are not the ones that failed IMO. A. P. had several chances to prove himself in that second half, and if he could only manage 5 rushes in 5 yards for the coaches to expect on that 6th and 7th run that he would get more than a yard would have been rather stupid.
I am curious, if the people who think that A. P. should have been “fed the ball” in the second half are the same people that say we should not be running Best when he only gets one yard per carry. Despite not only getting shut down in his last five runs A. P. actually was shut down most of the day.
17 runs for 78 yards, take away the 43 yard run and in 16 carries he ran for 35 yards. 2.1875 yards per carry is not exactly a superstar performance. OK, I will even give him a pass on his touchdown run, because that was pretty nice, but still 2 good plays out of 17 carries? Really? That is what the Vikings were supposed to win with?
Sorry I disagree, Mcnabb had 211 yards in 36 attempts, even including incomplete passes that still makes for 5.86 yards per play that he threw the ball compared to the 4.59 that Peterson had even with his big run. Also Harvin had 2 rushes for 41 yards, 20.5 yard average, and 3 receptions for 47 yards. Even if we factor in Peterson’s 4 catches for 19 yards he got 4.62 yards per touch on average. Harvin got 17.6 yard per touch. He was by far the most explosive and dynamic player on their offense. I would argue that they should have went to Harvin more in the second half, not Peterson. Going to Gerhart was fail sauce, but if you ask me, the right call was to go to Harvin again, not Peterson. Preferably on a run play so there was no chance of an incomplete pass.
Anyways I have beat this to death, but when you start to look deeper into the decision making process, sure there were some errors, there always is in hindsight, plenty of those on the Lions side of the ball too. There is even a lot more to this than what I have shed light on here, so it looks to me like the “feed the A. P. monsters” are just knee jerks.
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I wouldn't expect him to break out for another 40yarder
however, they had a few spots where they were in short yardage and did not go to him. Like they said on the broadcast, the Lions went to their big weapon and the Vikings did not.
I wasn’t trying to say they should’ve just gone to him 2 straight times. however, most wouldn’t question it either.
Indeed NL12
Stephen Tulloch played one hell of a game, and Durant and Levy looked solid too…in the second half. All of them looked terrible in the 1st half in my opinion…and clearly they were being over aggressive with the run blitzes. Whether that is their fault, or the DC is another question.
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don't get me started on Levy... : )
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With all of the recent criticism I watched Levy very closely this game
And he was pretty damn solid. I will say though that the majority of the big plays in the run game went to his side of the field. Levy needs to work a bit on his run fits, if that was his assignment, but then again, Spievey and Delmas also missed some angles too, so really both the 2nd and 3rd level of our defense broke down fundamentally on those plays. I am not even positive it was Levy who missed his assignment there but I might look into it later on the DVR. Just something I remembered off the top of my head.
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by Evilsmurf on Sep 28, 2011 4:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know
I posted this on another site earlier. But here goes.
Adrian Peterson has nothing to complain about. (Except maybe the 4th & 1 call) He had 5 carries and one reception in the second half. He also had 2 carries that were called back by penalties. The Vikings ran 17 total plays (not including 4th downs) in the second half before the Lions took the lead and the Vikings had to move the ball in a hurry. So if you dive into the actual numbers, the ratio does not look that bad.
when you are down by 3 you don’t have to move it in a hurry. plus if they used AP more they’d have likely had more than 17 plays. they failed on a 3rd and 1 on one of the drives and had a few other ill-timed pass plays.
Not only would they probably have had more then 17 plays
but they would’ve eaten up a lot more clock in the process, which would’ve likely not given us enough time to get back in the game.
Outside oi one big run on the first series, AP averaged 2.2 YPC. They weren’t giving him the ball because he wasn’t going anywhere with it.
Sure, they could have kept pounding AP in the hopes that he would break another one, but if he doesn’t you’re still looking at three and outs.
They had three and outs with the passing game and three and out with Peterson. But, if you run with peterson it eats more clock, you do have a greater chance of him breaking a long one (especially compared to Viking receivers, minus harvin).
by jonathan.onne on Sep 27, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Peterson was the one calling to go for it on 4th
so they should have given it to him. Lions still woulda stuffed him
I think also here that A. P. is giving himself too much credit and the Lions defense not enough
We have been shutting down teams on 3rd and 4th down all year and we have been shutting down teams in 3rd and 4th and short all year too. Personally I don’t think it would matter who they gave the ball to, when our defense plays up to par it is pretty damn dominant.
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The Dallas game might be our biggest test until Thanksgiving
I believe Dallas is better than the Bears, and Atlanta certainly does not look as good as advertised, plus we get to play them at home.
Hope we go down there and get a decisive win.
by WestsideLionsFan on Sep 27, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
If last night was any indication, it shouldnt be too terribly hard to win down there
As long as we execute and play good solid Lion football, everything should be fine.
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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
The schedule looks easier every week that goes by. I remember thinking it was super hard in the pre-season and now every good team seems to be underwhelming.
by DetroitDrew1980 on Sep 27, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
disagree
schedule is murderous after the bye. i am as big a lions fans as any, i think 10-6 would be a major accomplishment. 11-5 if they get by Dallas with a win an no injuries.
by redwingxviii on Sep 27, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm scared to death of Damarcus Ware
Backus desperately needs help next week or Ware is going to get to Stafford on just about every play.
That rug really tied the room together.
I'm not overly concerned about Ware
His game revolves mainly around the bull rush which Backus is good against. It’s also rare to see Backus get embarrassed two games in a row.
He handled Orakpo pretty well last year, and Ware didn't do much damage either.
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I agree Motown
However, the Cowboys line Ware up all over the place…so Backus will not face him on every down like he did against Allen. The Cowboy’s defense, AND the Redskin’s defense, is pretty underrated in my opinion. The thing that worries me most is that Dallas does not fade in the second half like the Vikings do, and they have a solid pass rush. So they could potentially cause problems for our offense, and if their offense is firing on all cylinders we will have a very difficult time playing catch up. If we are down 20-0 at the half against Dallas, I believe it is much more likely that we do not come back and win that game. We did it against the Vikings, but they have been faltering in the second half all season so far.
I still have to wonder though…is Minnesota tanking games so they can have a shot at drafting Andrew Luck, and how many other teams are doing the same thing?
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they took christian ponder
he was the 12th overall pick. there’s no way they reach badly for ponder and then tank the next year to get luck. the could have used the 1st on ANYONE ELSE and still tanked…but not end up with two 1st rd QBs burning their money.
that would be the worst plan in the history of the nfl.
Strategy wise, it's not a bad plan.
As I think pretty much anyone with half a football mind could tell you that Luck will be a better NFL QB. Also, the Vikes look like they’re not gonna get their new stadium and look to be the front runners to move to L.A., and Luck being from Stanford would help them sell tickets on the west coast. But trying to sell the fans on what would essentially be a first rounder flushed down the toilet? Good luck with that.
We haven’t seen Ponder play in an NFL game, so we can’t judge him yet, but most non-Vikings fans were in agreement that taking him at 12 was a serious reach back when it happened. My guess, if they do end up with the #1 pick, is that they end up trading it to another team that still needs a QB for a treasure trove of picks, because whoever runs their organization surely has too large of an ego to admit that he totally fucked up the first rounder only a year before.
If Ponder were starting material...
You would think the Vikings would already have replaced McNabb…considering how poorly he has played.
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Because if you ask me...
McNabb looks just like Culpepper did in Detroit…all bad, and all done.
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culpepper gets one reaction from me pure laughter.Same as mcnabb, I cant respect that dude anymore other than for his past.Time to join culpepper in the CFL
Anyone surprised?
Not me. It’s time for the kid to play there and just let Donovan fade off into the sunset.
.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?
Is it that their offense is horrible...
or that the Redskins defense is better than you perceive?
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I can't even fake respect for DAL and what they bring.
I was and a lot of people on here last night were almost laughing at what we were witnessing that they were trying to pass off as good football.
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Just saw this little tidbit on BTB
‘The Lions haven’t played anyone worth a damn yet so if we’re going to be contenders, we’ve got to find a way to win this game.’
Some Cowboy fan wrote that. This coming from a team who lost to the Jets who are terrible so far. Who barely beat the 49ers who are terrible and squeaked out a win vs. Sexy Rexy haha. Good stuff.
saw the same post
I wanted to reply: “and what makes you think the Cowboys are worth a damn either?!” but I have to wait 24 hours.
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I can't blame them.
If I was a Cowboys fan, I would be spewing the same nonsensical bullshit in a desperate attempt to convince myself that we have a chance when the reality is that they don’t.
Man, this shit is so crazy… I thought I’d never be in a position where I absolutely knew in my heart of hearts that we would beat the shit out of the Cowboys. I’m lovin’ it, and I ain’t talking about Big Macs.
No shit man.....I'm not into reading any of their bullshit.
I know what I watched with my own two eyes last night, and it sure did not look very good. If I had a heart I would almost feel sorry about the pounding Romo is going to receive on Sunday.
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Has any Cowboys fans popped up here yet?
I doubt that they’ll have the balls.
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They mainly stick to the espn blogs and such spreading their idiocy around like a disease. Seriously this fans entire point he was trying to relay was that the cowboys won 5 superbowls and the lions havent won 1 so we suck and went 0-16.. stated that over and over again until he was blue in the face.I really actually wish they would come around and try to F with us.
they went 1-15 in Aikmans rookie year
to get Emmitt
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Considering they didn't score a single TD against Washington
and Romo had snap issues (AT HOME I might add), this should bode quite well for the Lions this weekend
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Joe and Troy are the worst.
I wish I could turn the commentary off like you can switch it to spanish
Switching it to Spanish might improve it some.
Before:
sluuuuuuuurrrrrpppppp Om nom Tony Romo, mmmm Jason Garrett.
After:
Stafford, Calveen Johnseen, GOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!
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by Mavyrk on Sep 27, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
It would actually be
Calvaaaain Johnsaaaain
by WestsideLionsFan on Sep 27, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
No wait
Maybe you’re right. I got my accents all confused now
by WestsideLionsFan on Sep 27, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That is beyond hysterical.
Wars are only truly won through annihilation of the enemy. May our coaches remember that football is war.
by Lionsrmycrack on Sep 27, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I am in the minority, but I find Aikman to be a very good colour guy.
He calls it like he sees it. I recall the Green Bay vs. Arizona shootout in the playoffs a few years ago and he rightly ripped into both defences for their absolutely horrendous coverage. I remember one replay in particular when he pointed out that not only one guy was wide open, but two others as well. Most colour guys would just rave about a great throw or scheme or whatever.
And by the way, he thinks very highly of Stafford.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
I agree.
I actually like Aikman calling Cowboys games because it seems to me he’s very critical of their QB’s when they make mistakes. Entertaining. Joe Buck can suck it though. If he was Joe Reynolds(or anything except Buck) would he even have a job?
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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I can actually tolerate Joe and Troy......except when they're doing a Dallas game.
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Oh man, Troy just slobbers and gushes and clutches at himself whenever he gets to talk about Aaron
He wants to be the QB in THAT system so bad it friggin near kills him.
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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 27, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I may turn the Sirius on and watch TV on mute
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by The Profiler on Sep 27, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Love this line
It was slicing through haze and incredible noise and landing right in Calvin Johnson’s hands, the most dangerous place in football.
On more average sports blogs, this would have a million recs
Only on POD does this go colorless for so long…
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by The Boourns on Sep 27, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We have a higher standard on the PoD.
Our posters are good here. If these comments were made on any other site, they’d all be green.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
...
you essentially rephrased exactly what Boourns said when he made it green.
Oh
when I reply to someone, is it required to disagree? Didn’t know that was a rule. I just figured I’d type more than ‘+1’ or ‘This’
Sorry if I ruined your day boss.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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Addendum
What do Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, good NFL announcers, and the chance of Dallas winning in week 4 have in common?
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All will be working hard on Christmas Eve this year.
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buh buh buh buh buh buh buuuuuuuuhhhhhh
(NFL announcers dont even bother to watch the same game as everyone else)
Something I'm pumped about
Is that the next greatest connection in football is working on “got to have it” plays so that they can bust them out in our most dire of hours! and BAM! 40 yards and 3points later, victory is in hand!
You can’t stop that shit!
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^ this
I just hope this is enough to keep Calvin here in Detroit. Pay him almost whatever he wants. Just keep him happy and we have more plays like this to look forward to.
He's already one of the highest paid players in the NFL (top ten I believe)
I would shudder to think what his salary will be…
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Pay the dude
Look at the Bears, trying to guarantee Forte walks.
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by NobodySpecial on Sep 27, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he'll stay
He seems to genuinely want to be a part of the turn around here, and with the chemistry he and Stafford have, I don’t see him leaving. Detroit will pay him, but I don’t think he’ll demand to be the highest paid player in the NFL or anything.
He might not, but his agent might.
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by Lionsrmycrack on Sep 27, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
ya isnt his agent rosenhaul?
calvin is a lion for life, he is that type of person to wanna be with one team and make his mark on history
I have nothing to add to this really
But I would like to point out this site is becoming increasingly cluttered with crap ads. In the words of Jay Boy Adams… POD looks like a billboard.
by JFisch on Sep 27, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
PODs got to make money
Its actually less compared to the competition…
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And at least it's not refreshing every 30 seconds just to get a new ad in.
No slogans. Just win!!!
yeah and its sbnation that likely sells the wallpaper ads for that fucking caveman
God I hate those ads. The gecko, he’s cool in my book but the caveman makes me want to break things.
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by The Boourns on Sep 27, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
How could it not flop?
He’s no Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer, that’s for damn sure.
I’m just a simple caveman. You’re post frightens and confuses me.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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Hey you guys see the power rankings???
detroit shot up on espn from 11th to 4th
and they are 3rd on nfl.com
So... Phonzo or Brandon McDonald?
I don’t think McDonald will be too happy if Alphonso is bumped ahead of him.
No slogans. Just win!!!
Take out a LB or S and Put him in
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So if we put Fairly in in the next game who's inactive?
Fluellen is my pick
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When do you guys
think we’ll get a running attack going? We can’t live by pass alone.
I think
We need more k.Williams in our lives. Something tells me that guy is capable of a break away run. He is slow but he is strong.
by chaunce on Sep 27, 2011 4:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he can be alot like mike tolbert
hes not as big as tolbert but put him through the tackles and im sure he can get 4-6 alot of the time
completely agree.
Open up with some split back in pistol.
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by The Boourns on Sep 27, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
while 14 yards certainly wont get it done week to week
plenty of teams have been successful w/o running the ball
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Agreed
And more and more teams are moving to pass happy offenses each year…
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We need to use Best like the Bears use Forte
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As an emergency option because the quarterback almost gets sacked on every single play?
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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Don't be that guy Leo
Forte is a major receiving threat out of the Chicago backfield, and because of the fact that the Bears are terrible at opening running lanes for Forte, against the better run defenses of the league, they instead get him the ball by passing to him in the flats and on screens.
I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I would MUCH rather see Pettigrew BLOCKING (helping Backus), while Jahvid Best is getting those “ball control” passes that Jim Schwartz talked about. I kind of liked watching best take that screen pass 60 yards…didn’t you guys? I don’t see Pettigrew going 60 yards on one play in his career…ever.
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+1
Along with some quick pitches. This is how I believe most of us always envisioned as the best way to use Best.
.Does your momma have a Big Ass like your head?
I'm not sure what guy you mean.
I was just taking a shot at the Bears O-Line. I’ll refrain from anti-bears talk I guess. My fun meter just moved a couple notches lower.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Sorry
It came across to me as sarcasm, considering how well Forte has been playing for the last few years and how much of a threat he is as a receiver out of the backfield. My bad.
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Its cool.
I can see how it might have come across that way. I like players in Forte’s mold. Screen passes to a RB like that are deadly and assuming its not against the Lions, fun to watch. I just thought it’d be fun to take a shot at Bears O-Line. I added nothing to the convo, probably should have just chuckled to myself and not posted, but work is boring.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
No worries
As long as we can keep our heads when something is taken out of context, and a reply is made in response, we’ll be fine…:o)
It is very difficult to read intent out of text.
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For some reason
there are days where quite literally everything I read seems laced with vengeful sarcasm. I’m not sure why, my best guess is menapause. I try not to post on those days, but if I do, feel free to let me know I’m being a prick. It happens, I’m not one to deny that I can be a Grade-A Munson, I am and I try to own it.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
its not 1970 anymore its a passing league, you dont win by running and stopping the run…thats what the vikings have done over the past few years and they are 1 game above .500 and the only chance they had of going to the SB was when favre ignore chilly and threw the ball around anyways its the new trend in the league.
good point
but I would like a running threat to keep the heat off Stafford
agreed
i think we will never be known for a rushing attack as long as we have Stafford and friends (read CJ NB TY BP TS JB etc.) but getting more than 20 yards a game would be nice…Leshoure going down is a big part of this i believe as well as our O line being pass first…i believe once they are more gelled with one another the running game will improve a la last year and last year teams didnt even have to respect the pass as much as they do now
What is Vegas thinking?
First time I looked this morning, Dallas was a two point favorite. It’s already down to -1 1/2.
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Joe Buck and Troy Ainkman in Dallas
That should be a bias knob slobbing fest. Fox really needs to reevaluate it’s corp of annoucers.
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Joe Buck yawn fest.
I wish the radio and game on tv were in sync better, so I could just listen to the radio and watch on tv.
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We get to deal with the homerism of one Troy Aikman...
awesome… and Joe (I should be doing Baseball) Buck…
I see the Lions winning this one by a bit, Romo gets taken out in the first by a boy named Suh
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Alphonso Smith
I like Berry, but he dosen’t have the ball skills yet that Smith has. Smith is better at locating the ball and making a play on it, he dosen’t just play the reciever. I hope Smith gets the nod against the Cowboys.
by Empherical Evidence on Sep 27, 2011 6:18 PM EDT reply actions
Slaton Released
Not sure if anyone has touched on this yet, but texans released Slaton. Anyone else think he’s worth bringing in for a look?
by slopes44 on Sep 27, 2011 7:15 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Not really.
Had a good rookie year and hasn’t done shit since. I remember at one point that Houston thought he was gonna be their RB of the future. Unless the Coaches have suddenly decided that they really don’t like Keiland Williams, I can’t see him being brought in. And honestly, I’d even rather bring back Aaron Brown, who’s a very similar player but who already knows our system.
he led the texans in rushing for two years
‘08 and ’09 If I recall. Not sure why he fell out of favor, but until i know those reasons id think he’s at least worth a look. I think an injury gave Foster his shot, and the emergence of Tate, made him expendable. Why pay his contract as a three or four when u have two cheaper options who seem to be studs. (I assume cheaper because I Believe they were udfa’s) besides Mayhew has made his name with reclamation projects! LJ anyone?
by slopes44 on Sep 27, 2011 11:02 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Here's the numbers:
2008 :1282 rushing yards, 4.8 YPC
After his rookie season is when I remember everyone saying that this dude was gonna be a beast, how the Texans’ had found their long-term RB, etc. And then he followed it up with this in year two:
2009: 437 rushing yards, 3.3 YPC
To be fair, he missed five games, but still, not good numbers. Last year, he was active for 12 games, yet was only given 19 carries all year.
So sure, we can bring him in and give him a look, but it doesn’t seem like he would have much, if any chance of making our roster in the middle of the season unless we suffer another major injury at RB.
Steve Slaton
In 2009 he had major fumble problems. They sat him out and his backups shined. Slaton is good, his fumbles can be corrected. The problem as I see it is Houston had suprising and unexpected depth at running back that made Slaton’s fumbles and injuries a problem they didn’t need to address. I say he’s a good square peg that will be great elsewhere. Just not here. We need a big ass Jerome Bettis who can hit the line and always fall forward, if only for 4 yards.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Ha, def agree we need a Bettis!!!
by slopes44 on Sep 28, 2011 2:04 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
thanks for the stats
I wasn’t sure what they were just read he lead the texans in rushing for two years. Personally, I didn’t know about the fumbling issues but, if he can correct them and is healthy, I see him better then Harrison. Everyone was high on Harrison cuz of one huge game and decent season, then fell off map. I don’t see Slaton as any different, hence I’d love for them to at least work them out. However, I’m realistic, they probably won’t at this stage.
by slopes44 on Sep 28, 2011 2:10 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
just seen that too, wouldnt be a bad idea to at least work him out
I know the texans seem to grow RB’s on a farm now days, but none the less Slaton was a good RB and deserves a second shot
I don't think he's better than anyone we have now
He had every opportunity and then some in Houston and he couldn’t get it done.
by WestsideLionsFan on Sep 27, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
very likely true, but
The way we’re running the ball, could he really be worse? I’m not saying run out and give him a max contract, I’m saying he’s worth a look.
by slopes44 on Sep 27, 2011 11:05 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Troy and Joe
I love these guys as announcers. They might not be as animated as Gus Johnson but they study the teams and have solid information to add throughout the game. Much better than Matt Millen or some of the others guys out there.
Understatement.
They might not be as animated as Gus Johnson
Gus Johnson makes Joe Buck seem like a stick figure in a silent film. Buck to me is like the teacher from Peanuts. Wah wah, wah wah wah, Jerry Jones, wah wah, Cowboys, wah wah wah, Romo’s athletic support.
Aikman I can live with. Buck makes me want to drop kick a puppy.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
by Leonuro on Sep 28, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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