Can we stop with the "if he stays healthy" crap?
Okay. I'm developing a pet-peeve.
Seriously. "If he stays healthy" is IMO, the absolute dumbest thing somebody can say about an NFL player. That is an OBVIOUS assumption that is made whenever ANYBODY says ANYTHING predictive about an NFL player.
I understand there is an underlying fear of Stafford being hurt again. But I'm not worried about it, and even if I was, it is irrelevant. In all honesty, it's stupid to waste time thinking about. We have a decent backup in Hill and even Stanton has proven he can come in and win games. Sure there are arguments that can be made for upgrading the o-line (depending on what side of the argument you're on), but I think steps are being taken by our FO, I think we'll be okay this year, and I believe it will be addressed in the next offseason. My point is, the Lions are already doing everything they can to be prepared if Stafford goes down again, so what is the use in constantly bringing Stafford's health history in every statement about the Lions?
Just for some comparison, I have yet to hear this same caveat when referring to Peyton, and he is CURRENTLY injured! It's ridiculous. Everything I hear about Peyton is he'll miss maybe a few weeks, and can the Colts survive the short time without him. Not "they'll be fine when he comes back, if he can stay healthy."
Also, and perhaps more relevant, for those of you saying Peyton has played for years in the league and has proven he is an iron man, I haven't heard a "if he stays healthy" regarding Sam Bradford, who had the SAME EXACT procedure on his shoulder as Stafford, and had previous to that, exactly ZERO years of being an "iron man". It was just a matter of whether his shoulder healed, not if he was gonna separate the other shoulder, or mess up his knee or something when he started in the NFL.
And when Tom Brady missed an entire season there wasn't a fear he'd get hurt again, as much as there was a question of whether he could return to the high level of play he had before the injury. (I guess the answer to that was a "yes") Hell, even Calvin Johnson has only played all 16 games 1 of his 4 years with detroit.
All of the "if he stays healthy" crap regarding Stafford is really beginning to piss me off. We all know he's been hurt. We all know if he goes down this year again there will be a much larger problem than just a backup QB starting some games. I agree if that happens, that's when this becomes a major problem. But something I feel a lot of people are forgetting:
Our QB is healthy NOW!!
With the "Not For Long" nature of the NFL, I fail to see why people don't appreciate the fact that Stafford is ready to go right now, and by all accounts is looking good. Perhaps us Lions fans are too used to having to look to the future for hope. Perhaps I am a bit too much of an existentialist. But anybody who plays fantasy football can tell you how frequently injuries happen in this league. To be obsessed over one player's chances based entirely on what many consider to be freak occurrences just doesn't make any logical sense. And for everybody saying that Stafford has multiple injuries as opposed to Bradford, and Manning: seriously, if anybody can show me stats or some other proof that one injury significantly increases chances of another unrelated injury (as was the case with our Matthew) I'd seriously like to see it, cause I honestly don't believe that is the case. (I have no idea how or where to look that up, tho)
Now I know many of you will say Stafford needs to prove himself, as this fanpost by MisterEK explored a few weeks ago. He needs to prove he can play a whole season before you will agree Stafford is not just about to get injured. However, what is one season? That seems like a pretty arbitrary amount of time. How about 2 seasons? 5? 10? How many seasons did Stafford play without injury before this? Those numbers are ALL arbitrary. Truth is, there isn't truly an amount of time after which one can say for sure "Stafford is NOT gonna get injured". Perhaps after 10 years, you can say it with more conviction but not really with any more certainty.
If he is playing, he is playing. Period.
Bottom line is: Stafford is our QB. We're not about to draft him, we've drafted him. We're not gonna cut him. And we're not gonna trade him. Health issues are irrelevant. He's the starter, if he does get hurt, we put in Hill. It is that simple. If we were about to draft him his injury history should be considered, but he's already on the team, people. It's time to get behind our QB for however long he is our QB. If he DOES get injured, we'll revisit this next year.
"If he stays healthy" is not only a total waste of 4 words under the guise of clarity, (since smart people assume it anyway) it is making a problem out of what I consider nothing. (For more examples of this, see: articles about Suh being a "dirty" player, Burleson's comments about the workouts in Detroit, etc)
To be totally honest with you guys, I'm more concerned about other Lions like Jahvid Best and Jason Fox. These guys have been consistently hurt going back to college. Stafford has said he's fine. The doctors have said he's fine. Instead of assuming the doctors are wrong until Stafford proves it, I'm gonna assume the doctors are RIGHT until Stafford disproves it.
SO!
In closing, if you're gonna use "if he stays healthy" after statements for any NFL player you must also include it after similar statements for ALL players. As it is equally applicable to ALL of them.
Except maybe players like Daunte Culpepper who won't see the field- but even those guys could get hurt at practice. Besides, if last year was any indication, 49er's fans will be chanting for Daunte come week 8. (And then for somebody else week 9. ...Maybe Garrard?)
There.
Vented.
I feel better.
Now, if I can just get Warren Sapp to stop blaming Backus...
(That is, of course, if Warren Sapp stays healthy)
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You actually think Sapp is the only one blaming the Oline? Everyone is espn NFL net PFT you name it. Everyone blames Backus in the O line so don’t take it out on Sapp take it out on the Media and a lack of research. The talk on Stafford love it or hate it will never stop until he proves otherwise.
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I don't think Sapp is the only one by a long shot
ESPN, NFL network, NFL.com, a whole lot of Fantasy “gurus”, etc. Just look at 2011 draft previews and mocks to see how rampant it is. I think even Stafford’s girlfriend had a tweet about it around draft time.
But I single Warren out. For some reason, he embodies it. I think it’s because I think He should know better. Or maybe it’s because he talks like he knows all about it, when I’m pretty sure the only tape has seen on our o-line is that one play where Peppers hurt Stafford. I’d be willing to bet Sapp doesn’t even know Jeff Backus’s name!
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pet peeve of mine as well
and mostly agree with your rant!
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I hate when it's said all the time...
but it’s absolutely true. He hasn’t shown that he can stay healthy in the NFL. High school, yes, college, yes, but NFL? No. He needs to prove it, and while I do believe that he will, it hasn’t happened yet.
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by Bighaircut on Sep 6, 2011 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
right
but it’s just so obvious…why does it have to be said after EVERY statement EVER about STaff????
lol
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That's true.
I think everyone knows that by now.
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Totally right, Latif
Nobody wants to get “caught” on their prediction (which in itself is pretty stupid) and also nobody wants to be the guy who calls Stafford injury prone.
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IMHO...
it’s because they see his talent…not potential but who he is. They seem to know given the weapons, and a full season, he could be a top 10 or better quarterback, and in my opinion, after 2 yrs a top 10 player. But they hedge their bets by saying if he stays healthy. And I’m guilty for this too. I am a huge Stafford fan. I don’t believe his shoulder or he will get hurt again this year, but I will get ansy the first few games of the year when he gets hit. It’s the difference between playoffs and not. I totally understand it, I dislike it, but it is what it is.
As for Peyton, I think alot of people question his injury, it’s a neck issue, an a nerve issue, that’s his livelihood. For those that don’t, they are used to Manning who has started 200+ games, so if he comes back from an injury, they’re going to assume he’ll go back to what he used to be, an iron man. I am more skeptical, it’s his second neck surgery and he’s getting up there with age.
Good point, Scott!
because they see his talent
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I've said it before
If i took a shot every time I read “If he stays healthy”, my blood would be flammable.
Is this what you wanted?
Is this what you had in mind?
Is this what you wanted?
'Cause this is what you're getting.
by chaunce on Sep 6, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Recked you or the rant! Well done sir!
I have to admit that I write that frequently. And I hereby vow that I will not use that phrase for the rest of the season…….if I stay healthy and maintain my sanity.
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I also rec'd it
I beleived in the “if he stays healthy”… unitl about 2 minutes ago. you completely changed my mind and you deserve your credit. great read and now completely agree
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All of the "if he stays healthy" crap regarding Stafford is really beginning to piss me off.
Beginning to piss you off? I’m way past that. Every article about the Lions this year has that “if he can stay healthy” quote. Like that family guy episode with stuey! It’s like the kid that constantly nags you, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, hey dad, hey dad, dad, dad, dad. Until your blood is boiling with fury and you wanna turn around and grab him and say, “listen ya little bastard, I heard you the first time. If you don’t cut the sh*t, I’m gonna kick you through the uprights!” Sorry for the rant. Just can’t wait for the season to start, and hopefully 9 proves his worth. “If he stays healthy” Good write-up Undadawg. I commend you.
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Stafford the next Marino???
full of coolaid, but worth the read
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I read it.
It made me all warm and tingly inside.
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nice
at first I was like, man this guy’s a little off his rocker, been then combining the college stats with Stafford’s and looking at what Marino did – it actually seems to be a decent comparison if he continues to look as he as these past two offseasons…
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Oh man, oh man!
That gave me the chills. Can’t wait for Sunday!!!
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I will stop saying "if he stays healthy"
When he stays healthy.
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by joshsun on Sep 6, 2011 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He has stayed healthy
for almost a month now. Got knocked down a couple of times. Got up. Threw some touchdowns, didnt throw any pics. Ran around with that funny shuffle he has.
Thats all good stuff, no?
There has to be a little teeny tiny, eensy weensy bit of a smile somewhere behind that dour exterior. I mean after all, we are currently tied for the division lead and we have a damn fine chance of taking a half game lead over the Pack by weeks end. ;)
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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 6, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey man
I was thrilled to see him take a nice shot and get up without a single bit of pain on his face.
That said, 4 partial scrimmages does not a season make, and that is the measure he is being held up too. Well, that is the measure he is being held up to by me anyhow.
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Which is fair I really like staff and usually give him the benefit of the doubt but this really is his time to prove all the Injury prone shit wrong.I have a feeling he will hes a tough kid.But as you said untill a full season goes by without an injury we will all be left with that stigma as a constant reminder.
wow, the Marino comparison might not be far off at all (besides his record season in 84)!
Marino’s stats:
Year Comp% Yds TDs INT Rating
83 58% 2,210 20 6 96.0
84 64% 5,084 48 17 108.9
85 59% 4,137 30 21 84.1
86 60% 4,746 44 23 92.5
87 59% 3,245 26 13 89.2
88 58% 4,434 28 23 80.8
89 56% 3,997 24 22 76.9
90 57% 3,563 21 11 82.6
91 58% 3,970 25 13 85.8
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I see the gunslinger comparison
I could see Stafford easily matching Marino’s comp % and yards (minus the 5,000 yard season). Hopefully he fairs better in the INT department!
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Staff
had a 61% comp rate as a junior and 60% last year in his brief time against the Bears, Jets, and Redskins. A bit of that was hurt by how rusty he was in the first half of that Redskins game. I could see Staff from 63-65% | 3,800-4,100 yds | 30-33 TDs | 13-16 INTs | 89-94 rating
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redo
Marino’s stats:
Yr | Comp | Yds | TD | INT | Rating
83 | 58% | 2,210 | 20 | 6 | 96.0
84 | 64% | 5,084 | 48 | 17 | 108.9
85 | 59% | 4,137 | 30 | 21 | 84.1
86 | 60% | 4,746 | 44 | 23 | 92.5
87 | 59% | 3,245 | 26 | 13 | 89.2
88 | 58% | 4,434 | 28 | 23 | 80.8
89 | 56% | 3,997 | 24 | 22 | 76.9
90 | 57% | 3,563 | 21 | 11 | 82.6
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Agree with you 100% Josh
Until he proves he won’t break then I consider him a china doll like Follett said. Sorry but seeing is believing and until proved otherwise I believe he can’t take a hit and I even have a bet that he is out by week 4.
by Usmarine0341 on Sep 6, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be happy on your behalf
after week 4 when Staff’s lighting up the league
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I really do believe he will last longer than 4 games
but he has a lot to prove to the entire league and his fans. This season, he has a chance to silence some critics. I hope he is able to do it.
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I'll take that bet
Stafford plays all year.
Go Lions!
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yyyyyyyup.
agreed. Gimme 16 games with playoffs on top this season and I’ll strike the phrase from memory completely.
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That's the difference between you and me Josh:
I see Stafford as healthy until he is not.
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I can see it that way too
I think our difference is, I am not convinced he will stay healthy until he proves he can do just that.
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My take
I think if you were to put a gun to my head and said you must make a prediction of the Lions without a caveat I would have to say 8-8. Now if you allow me to put in a caveat then I go with 18-1 provided Stafford is on the field. Now why is there such a difference in the predictions. Stafford brings something to the table that neither of our backups can provide. That something is a little moxie you know that look in his eyes and attitude that nothing can go wrong and I will be back to beat you the next series. The other thing is the long ball strike. Neither of our QBs has that killer instinct nor the ability to thread the long ball like Staff.
Now my article is one that like you wrote explored the idea about his past two years and relationship to him being hurt and how long it will take to get people to stop writing about his relations. The simple fact of the matter is I do not think he will get hurt this year as he been paying closer to attention to his body, understands that taking a hit is bad (running near the sideline and throwing the ball out of bounds) and listened to the rehab folks in getting his shoulder muscle mass stronger and thicker to take better punishment. I think those 3 items make him a very dangerous quarterback to deal with when he stays healthy this season. Note I did say if but when.
I remember somebody mentioned somewhere’s I can not recall either here, ESPN, or STK (shawn, terp, killer) that Brees had major shoulder surgery before he won his superbowl and is now one of the top 5 quarterbacks in the league.
BTW I am a little shocked to see little well I am not little in a sense of the word have a post I wrote be talked about in another post when I only have been posting here starting this offseason.
Okay enough typing back to reading.
I referenced your post because I found it appropriate
It had a lot of the same subject matter. In fact, I kind of looked at this as sort of a continuation of that discussion. Cheers!
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Thanks man!
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that was a comment... that was beautiful
lol. seriously UndaDawg that was art though.
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I have completely gotten past the "if he stays healthy" think with Stafford.
My assumption is that he will. I am so sure of it that I drafted him with the #6 pick of the first round in our PoD Keeper IDP fantasy league. The scoring in the league makes quarterbacks with accuracy and strong arm a premium and I felt that Stafford will be one of the premier players in that league, for not just this season, but for years to come. I know I raised a lot of eyebrows by picking him that early, but they were all just jealous.
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Staff went 4th overall
In my PPR IDP league. All lions fans, so I guess that’s understandable. I was gonna take him in the 3rd and I thought that was a reach! Guess not. You’re right, I’m jealous.
Lions were hard to get in that draft. (Though I was able to get Best in the 7th. – As I stated above, I am actually most worried about his health but that won’t stop me from taking him- haha. I’m a homer- I actually also picked up Corey Williams as a sleeper off the waiver wire) By the end of the year I think (hope) you will be happy with Stafford. I had him last year and he put up a ton of points in the games he played. I took him on all 3 of my other teams this year. (one keeper league) Go Stafford!
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Different thoughts
First of all people are saying “if Peyton stays healthy” the Colts can win the division, without him they don’t make the playoffs. In fact I just listened to an interview on NFL Network with Tony Dungy that said this very thing. Some are even going so far as to say this is the beginning of the end for Manning and comparing his next couple of years to what happened to a banged up Favre prior to retirement. Twice.
When Tom Brady got hurt, his first year back he dipped in performance and it was more of a “because he is not healthy” than “if he is stays healthy”. I will also point out that while Cassell did all right in the regular season, he has yet to prove that he is 1) not a system quarterback and 2) that he can actually win in the playoffs. Much like our backups.
Now on to Stafford. He has played a total of thirteen games in the NFL out of a possible 32 and had three significant injuries. He has been injured more time than he has been healthy, and it has been both shoulders and a knee, it is not like he keeps re-injuring some old war wound. He is a franchise quarterback, a lot is riding on him. We have every right to say “if he stays healthy” because in the past he has not and if in the future he does not the consequences are dire.
The bottom line is that you are not entitled to tell people how to speak or think. Just as you are entitled to think he will move forward and be completely healthy, others are entitled to be concerned about injures. I hate to say it, but the evidence and history do not support your argument.
Personally I have taken a leap of faith with Stafford, because I want to, because I have hope, because I want to believe, because I am rooting for him. However I am still very concerned every time he gets hit. I physically winced when he took that first big hit in the Patriots game. My mental psyche as a Lions fan has been as injured and wounded as his shoulders and knee have been. I have scars. It will take time for them to heal. Eventually when he gets hit I will stop flinching, eventually I will be able to unclench my fists, eventually I will stop holding my breath. But I am not fully healed yet, my psyche is still wounded, and each time he gets hit and pops back up I will feel a little better, just like mama kissed my boo boo.
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by Evilsmurf on Sep 7, 2011 1:03 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Bravo
Well said, Smurfy. That is precisely how I feel. Staff’s health has been a HUGE disappointment thus far, and until he proves he can last at least a seaon without getting injured, he will have the reputation of being “fragile”. I too have taken a leap of faith with Stafford, but I get offended by people telling me what to think or say. Having said that, I admitedly cringe from that phrase, but it won’t cause me to go on a rant.
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Intelligent as always, Smurf
the evidence and history do not support your argument.
However I don’t think I was clear on my actual “argument” This post was primarily cathartic and therefore the emotional nature of it took me on a few tangents.
I am not trying to deny Stafford’s injury history nor am I trying to ignore the very real possibility Stafford is in fact, injury prone.
There are two main points I’m trying to make:
The first is the fact that "if he stays healthy’ is something that can be applied to any NFL player. IMO it makes the people who use it seem like they don’t understand the nature of football. When somebody says whatever about whomever, OF COURSE they are assuming that player doesn’t get hurt. It is implied with any such statement. Explicitly saying so makes the speaker look like an idiot, IMO.
The second thing I’m trying to say, is that it doesn’t matter. As long as Stafford is healthy, his injury history doesn’t come into play. He’s good to go right now, and as Lions fans, we should be behind him. It’s like every time you get in your car to go to the store you have to talk about the fact that it could break down. Yes, it could break down, but are you gonna just visit that fact EVERY time you get in the car? No. You get the car fixed and hope for the best. When it breaks down, you deal with it then.
A few other points:
-I didn’t mean to try to tell people how to think. Though I’m sure that comes out anyway. I was more pointing out the ludicrousness of the “if he stays healthy” comment and that people who use it should at least be consistent with it’s use. Unless you are referring to my plea to get behind Stafford in which case I stand by it. I don’t see how you can be a Lions fan and not support the QB.
-I didn’t hear the “if he stays healthy” said about Peyton (obviously). Most of what I heard was worry about when he was coming back. Though I did hear some rumblings about if this was the beginning of the end for him. (I’m pretty sure this whole neck thing is entirely because I took Peyton on one of my fantasy teams. BTW.)
-I’m not a believer in Matt Cassel.
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He'll continue to have the injury cloud over his head for a while yet
The media always remembers that sorta stuff. I don’t pay much attention to it myself.
Here is more Stafford talk with a different spin
4. Matthew Stafford(notes), Detroit Lions.
When Matthew Stafford played last year, he was really good. The only problem is that the sample size is tiny, because he spent most of the year injured, just as he was the last few weeks of his rookie year in 2009. The Lions are ready to win right now. Another year of “We might have been really good if Matthew Stafford had stayed healthy” will not be acceptable.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-Shutdown-Five-Quarterbacks-with-something-t?urn=nfl-wp6544
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Ohhhh boy.
You just walked directly into a bees nest with this one buddy. Good luck.

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by Nate D. on Sep 7, 2011 5:52 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Haha!
Any image of Nick Cage suffering gets a rec from me!
"Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live it's whole life believing that it is stupid"
-Albert Einstein
I seriously believe that we have moved past the point of falling apart over the injury of any one player.
Stafford, CJ,Suf, doesn’t matter. Now multiple player injuries, for multiple game is another story.
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hope you're right, del
I doubt we have as much luck as Chicago did last year, (as far as injuries are concerned.)
"Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live it's whole life believing that it is stupid"
-Albert Einstein
Agreed
I’m tired of hearing it, tired of saying it, tired of thinking about it.
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