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by Sean Yuille on Jan 1, 2012 4:47 PM EST
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PrintThe Lions couldn't overcome their awful defense and some awful officiating today. Sour way to finish the regular season.
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I know
If we had gotten the right call we would have maybe won the game…
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the nfl is really just messed up
if scoring plays are reviewed should not plays that negate potential scores also be reviewed? it’s counter intuitive.
by nuftjedi on Jan 1, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
NFL
Has THE stupidest rules, plain and simple
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what if Schwartz hadn't burned the challenges?
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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Both had to be challenged!
What else would you do?
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he burned them because he had to
I don’t get this argument at all. the reason he didn’t have one is because the refs were messing up all day so he had to use them early….. he still would’ve had one for the titus catch is they had gotten the second one right.
Yeah, he didn't really 'burn' them.
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Well the one with the toe drag
That couldn’t be reviewed
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Game is tied.
Utter and complete bullcrap!!!
Stupid Challange Rule
That and so many other rules that are soo stupid in the NFL
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HE DID!
refs cost us the game! plain and simple. defense was horrible, but THAT WAS A TOUCHDOWN!
It was a Touchdown
Dont get why they didn’t review it….
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Not
One play shouldn’t have to decide a game. We played like shit on D, that wasn’t on the refs.
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by Bighaircut on Jan 1, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Schwartz always says, don’t put yourself in that position
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
that's exactly right
there was no reason for the D to play that god aweful
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
--> Don't blame the Lions. Blame yourself for not keeping your perspective.
-Tufflynx
I agree with that
the Defense played terrible. However, we also caught some bad breaks with a few calls. But yeah, there is no excuse for Matt Flynn coming in there and carving us up, bad secondary or not.
dude come on
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Jan 1, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
To make yourself look stupid
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
too look like an idiot
Congratulations.
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Go tampa bay...
Anyways, we lose a tough game and Matt Flynn just bought himself a starting job on another team
He is alot better than ppl expaected
and screw the refs. this nfl ref system needs to be re-reviewed
Tampa is getting owned
Atlanta showed up ready to play.
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Well I guess anything is possible
But it’s safe to say that we are going to have another tough time next week. That D is just brutal
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
I'm not too bummed about the loss
New Orleans scary? ya -but we’d have to play them anyways
Stafford Calvin Connection is looking beautiful so all good :)
good season guys time to hit the golf course…oh wait.. it was a good season :D
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was i the only one who saw a ref signaling incomplete on that last pic?
or did I not see that?
the refs didnt show up today just some dopplegangers in white stripes
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Jan 1, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
What alot of ppl around the nfl just realized that a NON pro bowl qb
with over 5000 yards 40 tds didnt get in….
What they may also know now is how pathetic the Lions Defense is
since a 2nd stringer just broke the Packers passing record.
Baseball: It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart.
by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
double word
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
--> Don't blame the Lions. Blame yourself for not keeping your perspective.
-Tufflynx
think of it this way.
eith he gets to the super bowl or the pro bowl because brees rodgers or manning will get there. you think ryan can beat anyone? or smith? no.
by Nels Winkler on Jan 2, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
That short FG that Hanson missed cost the Lions the game.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
Sure blame the refs.
Same old Lions fans.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
You can't say it didn't affect the game man
I’m all for personal accountability, but that was an atrociously officiated game
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
NFL is a team game but u can put all the blame on the kicker.
The defensive hold no accountability!
(I’m being sarcastic)
POD where my opinion is a fact!
by LeyandsMarlboros on Jan 1, 2012 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Now not the same old lines and just the same old lame calls from the referee’s. Anyone who isn’t either a fan of some other team, or a hater of the lion has to admit that the refs blew at least a half-dozen calls today that were critical to the outcome of the game. Granted the Lions defense went off today but many of them are hurt and/or nursing injuries and trying to play through them. When you take into consideration how banged up our secondary is you have to wonder how this game when it turned out had the defensive line put some pressure on Flynn today.
by Jeff Lamphere on Jan 1, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
our D cost us that game
i dont care about the refs or the fg. you score 41 pts you should win. I dont care who you are playing
And the Lions lost by 4, not by 3... we would have lost regardless
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Bring that weak Defensive effort
to New Orleans and it will be over quickly. No guarantee it would have been ‘easier’ in Dallas or NY, but man, oh man. Heck, just personal pride as an individual responsible for coverage is missing.
Baseball: It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart.
by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 4:50 PM EST reply actions
I cannot wait to hear Schwartz's post game presser
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
So did the drop by Calvin on the pass just before the shank.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
Hey now
NL is anything but a troll.
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
That's legitimate
If it was anybody else, we may be on him more. CJ is incredible, but he makes that catch all the time.
Baseball: It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart.
by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
What a year for Stafford!!!
41 TDs and 5,038 yards passing.
Our pssing game should be great for years to come!!!
11-11-11 !!!
Go Wings !!!
Marcelo Garcia rules.
*passing
11-11-11 !!!
Go Wings !!!
Marcelo Garcia rules.
by KGW on Jan 1, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
46 yards short of Marino
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
But really guys, what kind of defence was that?
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
So how about those 3 CBs were gonna draft
After MATT FUCKING FLYNN torched our D
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none whatsoever
It’s going to take a miracle to stop Drew.
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
Atleast Delmas and Barry will be back
And CWill and Fairly
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0_0 barry comming out of retirement to help our run game?
by Shady313 on Jan 1, 2012 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Haha I thought of that too
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
Defense, WHAT defense??????????
We deserved this ass whoopin!!!!!!! No defense whatsoever! We did get fucked on Titus’s TD but no way in hell should a back up come in and torch your starting defense like Flynn did to us all damn day. Well ladies and gents this will occur when we take on Brees so 1st round and out for us until we get better corners and better LB’s.
I'm so fucking depressed right now
refs and rules are making me ill, something needs to be done before they completely ruin the fucking game of football
that may be too late.this game was a joke
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Jan 1, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
do away with limited amount of challenges
I think Thom Brennanman brought that idea up during the game. Then again, if the officials, WHO ARE PAID TO DO THEIR JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE, we wouldn’t have had that problem with that no TD for Titus today.
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
Should be able to challenge until you fail
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I think the point is that we'd have another challenge still
Because you don’t lose it if you win it in this scenario
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
Great effort by Stafford
He’s got great poise out there, in the most hostile football environment. I just can’t really be all that enthused after our defense got shredded by a nobody (until today), and the officials taking away that TD from Titus. Best of luck in the playoffs, Detroit…you’re gonna need it!
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
anyone know where i can find the post game coverage?
i gotta hear schwartz after this one!
http://tunein.com/radio/971-The-Ticket-s30370/
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
here
http://player.radio.com/player/RadioPlayer.php?version=1.2.13391&station=2108
Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999
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How are we the same ole fans????
Because we expect our defense to not let a back up QB set records against us?
Yeah, criticizing fans for being upset is dumb
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
I meant because we are blaming the refs.
Yeah, they sucked [as usual] but when you give up 45 points have four turnovers, miss a FG, drop a sure TD, there is a lot of blame to go around.
I am just pissed right now at the defensive side of the team. They could not protect a lead, and kept putting all the pressure on the offence to score TDs.
That being said, the offence was nowhere near perfect against a GB defence that was weak all year and short of their two biggest playmakers. DAMN!
Still, 41 points should be enough to win most games.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
I am not solely blaming the refs, they didn’t “lose” the game for the Lions, but they were just too involved and it changed the way the game went thus leading to a lot of other things to happen.
you can’t really deny that they had a major impact.
Well consider this
Missed call on Stefan Logan turnover
Missed call on Jordy Nelson muffed punt
Missed call on Titus Young touchdown
That is one more possession for the Packers, one less possession for the Lions, and 4 points off the board. The refs absolutely took this game for the Lions. Personally I think they need to be investigated for game fixing.
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
I doubt they fixed any games,
But this crew was so incompetent that none of them should referee anything but preseason games until they get their act together.
If you're a Packers fan.
"I don't take shit from anybody... If I have to throw somebody on their neck two times for them to understand that, it's that simple. They are not going to disgrace me." -Ndamukong Suh
Yes they did lose us the game.
There were four particularly egregious calls which cost us all of our challenges, four points, and two possessions (one of which would have probably allowed us to run out the clock) None of those calls were even close to being correct.
Now, they weren’t the only reason we lost, there was a lot of bad play, especially on defense. But they were definitely a necessary factor in that loss. You change any one of those four calls to the correct ones and the Lions win this game.
we needed that taste of defeat going into the playoffs
we have a secret weapon in Bell he knows the Saints offense and he also knows their defense from playing against them on the practice squad
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Look at it this way:
You will not win against the best team in the NFL (backups or no) if you force one player of 22 or more to win the entire game for you. Period.
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
why is their a fucking policy for talking heads to never talk about shitty officiating? i never hear it mentioned
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Jan 1, 2012 4:53 PM EST reply actions
I actually think it is a wise policy.
Part of the announcers job is to sell the product (NFL) and bashing refs might be about the worst possible way to do so.
Our DBs sucked all day
We desperately need Delmas even if banged up. Only Wright (and sometimes Spievey) played decently
And please stop that bunch of stupid blitzes, it costed 2 TDs today
I will call BS unless they mentally were already in New Orleans
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by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
+1
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
No
going from the presumed NFL MVP to a back up QB.
You should not be absolutely obliterated! NEVER.
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Why?
Who’s to say that guy isn’t as good? Or good enough to have a game like that?
The defense played like shit, but those throws he was making were fantastic.
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
He is not that good
You know it just as well as I do.
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Actually
Like I said before, I’ve been hearing for years now that Flynn is going to get the Packers a high round pick, whether it was via trade or compensation.
He’s been waiting in the wings, and took control of his destiny, just like Stafford has in many situations.
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
M. Flynn 31/44 480 10.9 6 1 136.4
He is not that good
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Last thing I'll say on this
(as you are notoriously hard headed… as am I)
Any given Sunday. No one can say he’s not that good. You just don’t have any basis for that. I agree we should never have let that happen, but it did, and you can’t take away from him for that.
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
those numbers are GB records
He is not that good.
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He's not good enough to do this regularly,
but Matt Flynn is a good QB who will be starting somewhere next year. Nate is right.
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Rodgers
I’m sure nobody thought Rodgers was this good sitting behind dickhead.
It seems like any dickhead inserted in that offense is good.
"I don't take shit from anybody... If I have to throw somebody on their neck two times for them to understand that, it's that simple. They are not going to disgrace me." -Ndamukong Suh
Tom Brady finds this comment hilarious.
Flynn didn’t look like a back-up at all. He was dictating the passing game more than his receivers were.
Fan of the Detroit Tigers, Lions and Red Wings.
I remember guys like Young…Kramer…Brady who just filled in for an injured qb…yes I know kramers not in their company but our best qb prior to staff imo…
Yeah, Tom Brady, he was 1st overall right?
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
This team is built to get pressure on the QB and Flynn was standing back there all damn day
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
Yes....Something Schwartz might want to admit
It’s okay to say the DBs had a crappy game…..but with no pressure on the QB from the front four….how long can they keep covering everyone???
STAFFORD AND JOHNSON ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT SHOULD GET CONGRATS AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LIGHT A FIRE UP THE DBs ASS
by Guneet Singh Saini on Jan 1, 2012 4:55 PM EST reply actions
tightends and titus young man
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Jan 1, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Loss overshadows QB brilliance
seriously both QB’s today were outstanding. The refs and poor defense are going to steal the spotlight. Stafford reached a mega milestone today, but it doesn’t matter because of the loss. how sad.
at least it's just one game
But I’m not going to say the refs taking away the touchdown from Titus Young was the deciding factor. The defense couldn’t slow up Matt Flynn.
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
Is our d-line being held alot
or did we all overestimate them, because this whole year I thought was going to be like the last four games of last year.
11-11-11 !!!
Go Wings !!!
Marcelo Garcia rules.
They have not played well this year period. Screw any holds
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
The only games they played up to my expectations was the first Chicago Bears game, the Broncos game and the Chiefs game...
Everything other game it’s seemed they’ve been average to below average
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chargers game?
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Jan 1, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
But even in that game, they weren't as good as the bears, broncos and cheifs game...
The secondary just played exceptionally well
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agreed
Our D line is overrated and has under performed all season.
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Good point
I guess I overlooked that, until the whole defense got lit up today.
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
Wide 9
You want to know why teams run all over us? You want to know why it’s easy to single out blocking assignments? The wide 9 is the culprit. Everyone knows were not going to blitz, and today was a perfect execution of exploiting our deficiencies. We can’t risk blitzing cause our coverage sucks. The wide 9 is a band-aide for poor defense, and it showed today.
If anyoen on here thinks we are Super bowl material this year
This game should be your reality check
of the teams we might have to play to get there, we have lost to all of them at least once already this year.
And now we get the saints first round, sheesh
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
I disagree
Any team can go the distance any year in the playoffs.
Lambeau is hard for ANYONE to win in, especially in adverse conditions.
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
Our D just let Matt Flyn set Packer team passing records
With a huge play-off seed on the line.
We need a ore consitent runiing game and better pass coverage. We also need more experience, but that onlycomes with time and this play-off berth is part of that process, whether we are able to beat the saints or not
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
I agree with all of that
But anything can happen. Any given Sunday.
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
the defending SB Champs let a 3rd QB beat them last season
any given Sunday
Charles Aaron "Bubba" Smith 1945 - 2011 R.I.P.
I like where you are going here but
They were not the defending SB champs last year and the game was a defensive struggle.
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The defending SB champs let the pitiful Chiefs beat them.
How about that one?
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To be fair, the pitiful chiefs seemed to vastly improve over the last few weeks
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My prediction was correct in the begining of the year with a 10-6 season
I also figured we would be 1 and done in the playoffs until we can get a running game and a decent defense.
Yep, I was right there with you
Regardless, we’re still improving. I can live with that
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
If you hit your stride at the right time, anyone can win in the playoffs
The Tigers lost their last five games in 2006, then rolled over the Yankees and A’s on their way to the World Series.
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
i've never been one for coaches putting the blame on others but schwartz should be bitching about the officiating today.
grill the defense too.but this was appalling officiating
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Jan 1, 2012 4:58 PM EST reply actions
nah, cus then he would sound like a whiny bitch
there are plenty of areas to bitch about that were under the teams control, it’s best to focus on those
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we were vanilla all day on defense looks like they were holding back
Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999
(artist formerly known as prince)
Schwartz is fucking PISSED
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
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Putting the game on the D underperforming
'The reality is - the police become necessary in human society, only at that junction in a society where it is split between those who have, and those who ain't got' - Omali Yeshitela
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Nope, Schwartz never plays that card
He’s going to drink the defense’s proverbial milkshake, that I can guarantee
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"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
Aka,
the officials stunk, but our D stunk worse. I can’t get around that, no matter what. Further, had a chance to win the game on D, but two big penalties and no coverage proved to be their downfall, not the officials.
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by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
and here go Schwartz being an asshole to a reporter just doing his job.
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Guy is mad at his team
Can you blame him? Is he supposed to be nice to the guy?
The reporter doesn’t even blame him. So it goes.
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"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
the reporter does not blame him because he knows what will happen if he does.
Silly me, I was raised to not take your shit out of innocent people.
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To quote Schwartz
What is he supposed to say?
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Not sure
but being an asshole to a guy just trying to do his job is not what he should be doing.
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I know how I'd respond... similarly.
I guess I’m just a dickhead though. That’s not news to me
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Well anything that Schwartz does
Joshsun would do the opposite
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lol
not necessarily.
But I would never lash out at people that had nothing to do with why I am angry.
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I've been so mad I've punched through a mirror and two walls
So I can understand.
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A wall and mirror is not a human being just trying to do their job.
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You've never been pissed...
then had someone ask you 23 stupid fucking questions either.
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I haven't?
yeah I have.
I have been in management most of my life and stupid things have happened. On one occasion one of my workers messed up so bad, people could have died. His mistake was so simple and basic to what we were doing. I was red in the face angry and maintained my cool while answering questions to both my boss and the customers.
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Maybe you should consider a career in NFL coaching ;)
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lol
I would end up leaning on my coordinators too much!
lol
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Questions that they should already know?
Press conferences are fucking stupid anyway.
“Hey coach, why did you lose?” “We fucking didn’t score enough points.”
“Hey coach, did your defense play bad?” “No shit.”
etc…
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that is his job. Grow up and act like a man instead of a spoiled child.
Let me get this right. Your job does not have exactly the same type of thing?
Dumb shit you have to do over and over no matter how stupid it seems to you? I bet your job does and i bet you have to handle it better than a hissy fit.
I also bet your job does not pay you anywhere near as much as his does, to handle stuff just like that.
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Give the guy a fucking break.
There’s nothing I can say to persuade you to release your strangle hold Schwartz hatred, so I’m done before I start talking about this.
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The difference is this:
Schwartz doesn’t HAVE to be nice to those guys. It has no bearing on his job whatsoever.
Personally, I’m GLAD he was that pissed. If he was like ‘Well, it’s ok, we’re in the playoffs’ I’D be pissed
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Nothing Schwartz would do
Would please Josh. He can’t do anything right.
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bullshit
he could have manned up.
Instead he lashed out at a guy just trying to do his job. Asshole.
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I don't think anyone can argue that Schwartz is an asshole.
We just think it’s justified is all. We’d rather have a dickhead for a coach than a nice guy
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"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
....You think Schwartz can't coach?
Your opinion I guess
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No I don't.
He is a players coach, and as long as he is there we will go as far as the players can motivate themselves to go.
The talent on the defensive side of the ball should be better than the 21st or whatever ranking they are at.
Wish wash.
He’s the coach. Not the players. Our secondary played like shit. He can’t do anything but motivate them to play better, they do the last part.
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that is part of the problem i have
No one is justified to be an asshole. Ever.
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Ha
You’re a better man then I.
We need more people like you in the world, to be sure.
Maybe a little less judgemental, but none of us are perfect.
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I feel like if I punch Josh
He’d pull a Tebow and turn the other cheek.
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all coaches do that
I watched Harbaugh being Harbaugh in a a presser after a win today.
Charles Aaron "Bubba" Smith 1945 - 2011 R.I.P.
Dont like him either
He is an asshole too.
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lol
ends justifies the means huh?
No thanks.
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10-6 and he has the Lions in the playoff for the first time in forever, we better fire him fast before we get used to winning!
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by Evilsmurf on Jan 1, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
Because you or I couldn’t coach a winning season with an offense in the top 5.
Schwartz has not been the difference. Mayhew however has.
thank you
sorry, any average coach could get out of this team what he has.
The difference between Schwartz and all our coaches that proceeded him. The GM giving him players. Mayhew has done miracles compared to his predecessor.
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And just what proof do you have of this?
Did not Martin Mayhew choose Schwartz? Would he not be ultimately responsible for that bad decision as well? How come he gets a free pass there and it is all on Schwartz?
This coach has continually improved the team every year. Make no mistake, he is as big of a part of it as Mayhew. Schwartz is the type of guy that corrects font usage and typos on inter office memo’s. you bet your butt he has his fingerprints all over this team.
To shell all of the credit on Mayhew, and all of the blame on Schwartz when they are both equally responsible an all success and failure this team has shows me that you have a clear and unfair bias and prejudice.
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mayhew has continually improved the team year after year
I am not saying Schwartz is a bad coach. I am saying he is not a good one. Average at best and days like today are perfect examples.
How do you fire an average coach that the fans are lapping up the BS he spews?
You don’t.
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Who is better than him? Of the 32 teams in the NFL what coach is better than Schwartz?
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let it go,
he has never lost an argument in his own mind
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 1, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
I am not going to break down 32 coaches for your amusement.
Not happening. He is average at best.
You realize. We have a .396 SOV. That is the average record of the teams we have beat this season.
Sounds below average to me.
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For my amusement? I didnt as for 32, lol just one, one and you can't even provide that
If Schwartz is so average, you should be able to throw out several names off the top of your head, because average in 32 would put him somewhere around 16. So you have 15 potential guys and you cant name one? I call bullshit.
Stop ranting and taking your frustrations out on the wrong guy. The players play the games, the coaches can only do so much. If you want to rant take a look at the game tape and point to the failures in composure on our team that cost us wins. Both pre snap and post whistle, then you might actually have something to bitch about.
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call BS all day long
You and I know there are plenty of coaches in the league that I could mention here.
You want just one. McCarthy. How about another…. Belichick… Another.. Payton… Tomlin… Both Harbaughs
There are more, I have no doubt about it. Those are off the top of my head.
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Well lets take a look then
McCarthy inherited a team led by Favre and had the luxury of letting Aaron Rogers wait in the wings and develop. That team did nothing until Dom Capers defense got there to give that offense the ball back. McCarthy may be better than Schwartz but if so it is not by much.
My point, is that Schwartz is a lot closer to elite than you are giving him credit for.
Bill Belichick is nothing without Tom Brady. PS they have been eliminated in the first round of the playoffs for several years in a row now.
Sean Peyton is not much without Brees. PS they got eliminated in the first round by Seattle last year, a severe upset. They also got beat by the Rams this year. Peyton has shown a propensity for letting his team under achieve at times.
Mike Tomlin is another coach that was handed a winner. A stacked defense and probably the most underrated QB in the NFL. That team goes nowhere without Rothlisburger, Polamalu and thier line backers, along with Dick Lebeau too.
Sorry, but once you get past McCarthy I cannot give anything to any of those other guys over Schwartz. They had better players is pretty much what it came down to.
Schwartz now has that elite QB, a young and developing one, but he will get better, and help to make Schwartz look better and better as well.
Unlike Favre and Aaron Rogers Stafford has no elite receiving corps to work with. Sure he has Calvin. But when we were feilding receivers like Bryant Johnson and Derrick Williams last season could you really say that he even had an NFL receiving corps to work with? It is in development but not quite there yet. One more year.
Stafford also did not have the elite defense to help support him like Tom Brady did. No Willie McGinst, no Richard Seymore, no Vince Wilfolk, no Ty Law, no Teddy Brusky, no Mike Vrable, etc etc. The defense is coming along, but last year we were starting guys off the street like Vinny Circiu and Rockey Boiman, guys like Can’t Cover Brown and plenty of guys that are special teams, role players, and depth on the current roster. It is coming along, but it is not there yet. Give it another year or two.
What Brees has had compared to Stafford is disgusting. Receiver, running game, offensive line, and a defense that can provide pressure and take the ball away. Too much to cover here, I am not sure that we can catch up with the Saints, IMO they are the best team in the NFL, but we can certainly compete with them and close the gap to the point where it comes down to who has the ball last.
Big Ben had a running game, along with a top tier defense. We have a ways to go to give those kind of weapons to Stafford.
My point is, all of those teams won because they have an elite QB with enough complimentary talent around them. It has nothing to do with the coach, and everything to do with the talent on the field.
I wont even dignify much of a response on the Harbaughs. Jim has proven nothing yet and John has a team that cant win on the road. In fact the Ravens have lost to several non playoff teams this year. At lest the Lions only lose to good teams.
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score Evilsmurf 100, Josh 0
for the next round we’ll discuss why Ron Paul should be head coach
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with officiating like this
I feel like a Lions player
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lmao
ouch. I dont even remember throwing my red flags.
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Seriously?
not even one?
Damn man. talk about a tilted field.
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I think I know what you are getting at here.
most of these guys inherited teams already doing well.
You have to remember, it is almost never easy to follow a winner.
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combine that thought, they inherited a team
with the thought he pointed out that we’re so early in our expansion teams history, Schwartz is doing pretty well. There are some shortcomings on the team that can be attributed to him, but I have faith in his growth and ability to rectify them
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I dont really have that faith
and He is a jerk so he really rubs me wrong.
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i'm with you on that one
I really can’t stand his demeanor. He’s the type of cocky prick that has always rubbed me the wrong way. If he wasn’t our coach I’d hate him just for that…
The thing is tho, despite his personality flaws, I think he’s got good talent for the position and is getting better. I believe the players respect him first and foremost, and that’s important. Granted tho, I still believe his insane outburst on Harbaugh lost him a certain degree of respect as much as perhaps it got him some too.
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I think they have more talent than we do... Just look at their defense =\
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And I say its scheme.
We changed schemes over the off-season. Basically taking our DT’s completely out of the picture.
Smart teams coach around their best players. Our team takes them away.
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defensively they do.
easily.
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Absolutely agree with you!
Jim is the man. Has he had his moments? Yes.. Have his moments been justified? Yes..
I give our coach 5 stars for turning our cats back into LIONS!
In Mayhew/Schwarts I trust!!
by SUHrprise on Jan 2, 2012 10:49 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
josh, not today
we all know where you stand.
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Amen
Besides, reporters are morons for the most part. It’s not just during sports press conferences. They always ask stupid questions that insult everyone’s intelligence.
Hurtful.
Like I said below, a lot of times reporters just need the coach to say it himself so they can get the quote. That’s far more credible than the reporter assuming it’s the case.
But you are right, some of these guys come up with completely idiotic questions.
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They may know the answer,
but they need him to say it anyway. Journalists need quotes to write stories.
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It was a dumb question to ask.
And Schwartz gave an appropriate response. What coach walks into a game expecting to give up 45 points and lose? If there is one out there, they need to be fired.
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what was the question?
I haven’t had a chance to listen to the press conf yet
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'Did you expect to lose after scoring 41 today?'
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lol that is a stupid question
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Apparently you can't get mad at that question though
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"So did you graduate from high school?"
That’s how I would respond to such an completely IDIOTIC question.
Or, a person could be class and say.....
No.
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110 yards in passing
called back due to penalties per Stafford
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I feel bad for staff everyone will talk about Flynn and not realize what a year staff had
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Well, on the bright side, if there is one
2009 2-14
2010 6-10
2011 10-6
2012 14-2?
he wants go chew some ass in the locker room
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Atlanta 28- Tampa 0
Looks like we will have to go back to New Orleans :(
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Scored 45 and lost.
Gotta hang this one on the defense. Glad no one was injured, as far as I know, for playoffs. Our offense can hang with anybody but need to fix problems with defense for playoffs.
we really scored 45
we got hosed on the TDY non TD call
we got hosed on alot of plays.logans non fumble,jordy nelsons fumbled muff on the punt.titus youngs non td catch and on and on and on
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by awayfromthepride on Jan 1, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i dont know how you make changes in one week heading into new orleans.
seriously gonna need another game from the offense just like today and a miracle from the defense
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Berry and Delmas available ?
A big step, IMHO
yeah but their gonna be coming back from injury so you gotta hope for no rust and that they dont reaggravate
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Is Swartz crying or just cold
From the Interview
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I would be seething mad, too
If your defense (which was supposed to be so much better this year) gets destroyed by a backup
In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.
Our D
Collapsed when all it needed was ONE freaking stop
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How can you tell the D collapsed when they were laying down all game
"My Mama once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z
That too, but giving up 45 points in itself is a disgrace.
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Lions Got Robbed
Worst refereeing this year (and that’s saying something).
But they didn’t play very well anyway.
Hard to "play" well
When the refs keep deciding the outcomes.
Completed pass, no, we have to review it.
Down on contact, no, we have to review it.
Touchdown, no, can’t review it.
Sack, no, defensive holding within 5 yrds of the line.
and on ad infinitum.
Officiateing was bad
However you cant let back ups torch you like they did. It was pathetic. I’m not blaming the loss on officiating. I blame it on a horrible defensive showing.
Staff had
Grew in the flats wide open on that force into Burleson. He was good, though. Wish he had read through all of the progressions with just a three man rush.
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by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 5:05 PM EST reply actions
Not gonna let this game replace my excitement for playoffs
we have a good team and anything can happen.
by Honalulublue on Jan 1, 2012 5:05 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
+1
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Remember
The RAMS, yes you read right, the Rams beat the Saints.
And remember last year, the Seahawks beat the Saints.
Any Given Day
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Yeah that true
But nonetheless, they are beatable is all im trying to say.
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I don't think I've ever seen Jim Schwartz so pissed off in a presser
You can tell that the defense is going to get owned by him. He basically said that every aspect of the defense was horrible.
I watch the Detroit Lions and I....
by Lions & Panthers Fan on Jan 1, 2012 5:06 PM EST reply actions
Can't be to upset
Playing to win but the D did look manilla.
I wouldn’t read to much into it. yeah it is never good to give up that many points but do you think swartz won’t get these guys amped?!
We did get robbed but hey i’ll take a titus TD in the PLAYOFFS
Go Lions
Cheer up all, We’re going to the bayou for a W
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your smoking something
Breees and our shit secondary. not to mention our pourous run stopping. I’m not calling it 100% a loss but i am far from thinking we go in and win unless we hurt brees.
We can win a shootout in a dome, of that I am sure
It’s 50/50 to me. NO running game is more what I’m worried about
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Yep, and NO has great secondary depth
It’s a good matchup, and one we should have won the first time around.
The Saints have the advantage though, being a Super Bowl winner recently. We have no postseason experience, but whatever, baby steps.
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Or score 50
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by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
No just having faith
We can win in a shoot out and you best believe the D will play better. Plus what good does it do to suck on my shoelaces and admit defeat. we’re in the stinking playoffs!
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we need more of that from him
and I suspect we will.
11-11-11 !!!
Go Wings !!!
Marcelo Garcia rules.
by KGW on Jan 1, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
I liked that too
But he had the stupid enchroachment call
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Yeah, that was a bad, bad penalty
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Officials definitely effected the game, which they should not
Some of those officials today need to not be back next year. That being said, as Tom Lewand said before the game, the better team would win today. The Lions have some pieces, they are a dangerous team, but they are not quite over the hump yet.
More discipline is needed on this team yet. Sorry Matt Stafford, not everyone on this team is mentally tough. I still see plenty of brain farts on the field on a regular basis. More quality depth to push the starters is needed in the draft before we can be a true powerhouse. At this point we are more like a team that needs to get hot and play near our best to win. Anything less and we lose to backups.
That may sound harsh, but it is a hell of a lot better than what any Lions fan has had to root for in a long, long time.
If the Lions are going to go anywhere in the playoffs that front needs to get back on track and help cover up some of the issues with a banged up secondary that is still a player or two away from being able to hang with teams that have elite receivers. Since we are going to be facing the Saints in the first game, that line better be hungry, real hungry, like 5 sack plus type of game hungry, or Brees will pick us apart.
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Yeah, bonehead play of the game, to be sure
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The defense had a bad day.
Could be the best thing that has ever happened
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 1, 2012 5:11 PM EST reply actions
I'm thinking the same way
Schwartz is gonna be pissed.
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I think I see where you're going
ya if this embarrassment can drive them in the NO game today was a good day. Perhaps Guny’s vanilla play calling can be written off as not tipping a hand for the playoffs… nah, it just sucked :(
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they got knocked the fuck out
by erkel.
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Hey sean if you go hide in the superdome now you can catch the game next week
Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999
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I almost made a psuedo joke about Katrina
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You mean the one about
the local, state and federal government incompetence? I love that one.
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by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Lol that would be a long few days
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Only Delmas
With Delmas back, you can bring back Spievey to his original duty (3 pickoffs until Delmas was in) and fix the whole pass defense
Him
Combined with Berry, Fairley, CWill and the info from Bell will help us a lot
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Fairley played today
Wouldn’t have noticed though. Our line got NO push. Definitely troubling heading into New Orleans…
Might as well just field 11 DBs
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Point taken
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Man what a game!
It’s too bad our defense didn’t show up. Stafford was ballin out! But dad gummit we’re in the playoffs since 1999!!!!!!!!! GO LIONS!!!!!!!!
Just think if we needed this game
to get into the playoffs with the same Packer team playing today and doing what they did. Man, this board would have melted.
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by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 5:15 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, different situation.
I would be losing it.
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"In the absence of logic it is not uncommon that sanity can only be found by embracing lunacy." – Leonuro, circa 2011
and that's what I think happened
they mentally took the day off just being happy to get in and thinking they’d face little to no resistance today
I think that may have some validity
as an escape hatch for them.
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by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
it can be debated all anyone wants, but that's what I saw
the offense did it’s thing as usual, and the defense just went through the motions.
But Hey
We’re 10-6!! We are in the playoffs!! Staff is a star!! CJ is really Megatron!!!
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Mcdonald better get the start over Phons
Sorry Phons fans
+1
Inconsistency is the worst trait you can possibly have at CB
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Yup.
Mcdonald had a better game.
Houston had a shitty game. His injury has got to be still lingering.
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I only saw the Jones catch on the sideline against houston late in the game
He seemed a step slow that play. Was that game long?
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Pretty much
Didn’t hear his name called all day in any fashion
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It looked like, didn't it?
I remember him giving up two huge plays. I forget the first one, maybe a Driver TD catch?
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Phonz is done in Detroit
Did you see him try to shove the ball to Schwartz? Like he was saying see what I can do or something. Schwartz totally ignored him, total cold shoulder, that is not good. To make matters worse, he was going at it with Gunny later. Kid seems to have issues with playing within a scheme if you ask me. Same kind of crap we seen from Phillip Buchanon. You can have all the talent in the world, but if your not a team player, that will take coaching, you will be out fo the NFL and fast. There is a reason why we only had to give up a 7th round pick for the guy.
I am rooting for him, I like him on a personal level. But I think he may have burned some bridges in this game with his attitude and mouth.
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I thought the exact same thing
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 1, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
spot on :(
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I don't agree with your reading of him giving the ball to Schwartz
That play happened right after the blown fumble call that Schwartz was so epically pissed off about.
I’m guessing Schwartz probably said something to his defense like “GET ME THE F**KING BALL BACK!” and that’s what Phonz was doing when he went to hand him the ball……but Schwartz was still screaming at the officials about the fumble.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
It could be, always hard to read those situations without actually having the audio or being one of the parties involved.
But there is a definite reason that Brandon McDonald finished that game and it had nothing to do with Phonz being injured.
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Didn't AS get burned on a later play?
I read the incident the same way that Packers3485 did, but I think Alphonso blew a coverage a few series later.
I think he stayed in the game, I think the play you are thinking of was the throw to Jordy Nelson
Phonz didn’t even contest it, and he was in good position to. Personally I think his mouth kept running and the attitude got worse as the game went on. Looked like a meltdown to me.
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hey do we know date and time for new orleans yet?
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Jan 1, 2012 5:16 PM EST reply actions
ah thanks
Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.
by awayfromthepride on Jan 1, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Valiant season men
We’re still in the post season and still have a chance at the coveted 5 seed..only caught the last 20 mins of playing time or so but yeah officiating even in that small part was pretty bad.
Far as I know, Falcons are routing the Bucs
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Man, that was a hard game to watch in the end
All behind us now… tear it the F up in the post season!
#GoLions
Eat, Drink and Sleep Football.
Look at it this way
next week, new set of officials and hopefully a different attitude on defense. I’m still pumped about our season and looking for a win in the playoffs instead of season being over today. Don’t care who or where we play, it is gonna be exciting!
And a new set of broadcasters!
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I'm not doing a game day threads best
because I’d have too much to chose from about the shitty announcers. again.
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Billick was all for Stafford and the Lions today
He made several comments about the bad TD call even into the 4th qtr. Was really pleased with his game calling today.
Dunno, he has been pro Lion for a long long time, pretty much since the Process of the Catch game in Chicago
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I hope he does like Stafford
cus that will help when he becomes OC here
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Houston got beat all day long
and Smith needs to be released. Pathetic.
Here's where the paradigm has shifted though:
Who thought the Lions were NOT going to go down and score? I had all the confidence they would drive the field and score.
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by House by the Side of the Road on Jan 1, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions
+9
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Good point.
It sure seemed like it would happen.
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What it comes down to
Packers DBs were able to make a play. Lions DBs got close a few times, but didn’t come up with it.
Agree, I think this team knows it can come back on anyone
But the D shouldn’t consistently put them in that position. I saw a huge lack of defensive intensity out there. Nothing like the Chicago MNF game. We need that kind of intensity every week
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Calvin had over a 20 yard average on 250 yards
Incredible
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I blame Brandon at APC.
Earlier he wrote a blurb about Tramon Williams keeping Megatron in check for the most part when they match up. He said Johnson was going to break out sooner or later, but he didn’t think it would be today since he barely practiced. Blogger jinx in full effect.
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D-line play has been horrble the last 4 weeks.
we have not been putting much pressure on QB’s lately, and i am about tired of it. we all know our secondary is suspect. but the great D-line play had been taking care of that earlier in the season. D-line gets back to hitting QB’s, secondary plays better. just sayin.
Liking New Orleans
Battle of the 5000 yrd, 40 ts qbs. That’s just sick.
by Lionsfan012 on Jan 1, 2012 5:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
the competition commitee
has to look at reviewing all plays in the endzone that “may” have been TDs
Screw that.
College reviews every play. There is zero reason why that can’t be done in the NFL.
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yeah you got a point
they have it sreramed lined also it doesnt take a commercial break to figure shit out
Better yet, hire some FULL times refs and hold them accountable to their job.
by Incantrix on Jan 1, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For fucking real
No accountability whatsoever to get the call right.
Then again, that makes it so much easier to tweak the outcomes of games to make more money for the league
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+100 for accountability
The league needs to hold officials accountable for their bad calls on the field, they could also do a rating system which rewards officials for correct calls.
But like you said, it wont happen for obvious reasons.
exactly
you can change a called td to an incompletion, but not an incompletion to a td?
it makes absolutely no sense
Brian Billick view on reviewing the plays
He stated that they should just get rid of challenges altogether as they have the technology to have some folks dedicated to reviewing the plays upstairs and if they see something that needs to be reviewed or overturned they could communicate that down to the officials on the field.
Another things needs to happen is that the officials need to get better and the NFL needs to hire officials full time. Hopefully that would help.
Yeah. They do that at MAC schools.
Must be too pricey for the $10 billion per year NFL or Goodell is crapping his pants at the idea of upsetting his oh-so competent officials.
The entire challenge system is dumb. Turns getting calls correct into strategy. And it got worse once the refs were told to “let the play go, since it could be fixed on replay unlike when you blow the whistle.” Well, actually, no it can’t, because there are finite # of chances to review.
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by Kazoonole on Jan 1, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what's wrong with reviewing all scoring plays period?
IMO, if they are not using reviews to correct mistakes then get rid of reviews all together. Not using the review with common sense is just a waste of time. Refs bad calls just takes the momentun away from the game.
they do review all scoring plays
however they only define those as plays called as such on the field.
a TD can be overturned, but they don’t review a potential TD that was called incomplete and that is a major shortcoming.
This loss is on our Defense. Plain and simple.
We can all bitch and moan about the bad officiating, but you can’t……..CAN’T let a qb make some of those plays ( let alone a backup). Now Matt Flynn had a great game I’m not taking away anything from him, but our game plan was absolute shit on defense. Bad calls, no calls and stupid f*ck*in idiot calls—-we can’t use those as excuses. The ONLY excuse was that we allowed their offense to put up that many points.
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ok guys
I see a lot of people saying don’t blame the refs…. I won’t blame them,but they made a couple Fucked up calls! 1.) Stephan was down on his back no ball movement at all and the refs called gb ball, 2.) Scheffler was down,refs called gb ball again,forced challenge,shouldn’t have had to use it if the call was made correctly! 3.) Titus had ball,2 feet in the endzone! So no they didn’t cause the loss,but they certainly did contribute to it! Anybody with 2……even 1 eye saw those calls were wrong! Schwartz had to use 2 challenges on calls that were so obvious my gf saw them and she knows absolutely Shit about football or sports period and could care less why I was screaming at the tv for 3 hours…..but even she saw those horrible calls! And we need db’s but those calls were critical in there timing and why they even needed to be challenged! It is what it is,so new Orleans is up next!
by hostage42 on Jan 1, 2012 5:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Doesn't matter
You cant control the refs. You can control WR’s out running horrible DB’s. Dont blame the ref’s, blame the horrid defense.
Can't Just Blame the refs, but...
I know we cannot just blame the refs for this game, but they sure did not do much to help us. With Staff’s numbers, this game should not have been close but for whatever reason our defense looked amateur which means if they play the same way, Brees is bound for a record performance next week. Anyone want to take bets on the over-under for offense pass interference next week? I last read it was 3.5.
by Johno731 on Jan 1, 2012 5:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
One person I wanna see gone for sure next year is Stephan Logan
I really liked him in 2010. But I’m so SICK of him fair catching it within our own 5 yard line. How stupid can you be? Why wouldn’t you just give it a chance to bounce into the endzone and get the offense out to the 20? Really, there isn’t much difference between them starting at the 5, and at the 1-3…. It’s definitely worth the risk of letting it bounce into the endzone.
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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Jan 1, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions
+1
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Real Quick
Pretty sure the Lions will be playing on Saturday. Since the Giants/Boys game is late, they will get to play next Sunday.
yes and the BCS game is monday so we'll play saturday
Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999
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Good, hope so
Have a stupid party to go to in early evening … so the early game works better for me
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Yeah ... either to celebrate, or to get over a loss
But all in all, I am thrilled to be going to the Playoffs this year. We still are rebuilding. Improved, yes, but not there yet. We are already ahead of where I thought we would be.
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by AlaskaLion on Jan 1, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 1, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
oh I agree with being happy about making the playoffs
no matter what happens Saturday I think this season was a success, but today did put a sour taste in my mouth and showed how much work this team still needs. A game like today is a game a team serious about winning a SB has to win, you have to be aware of the bigger picture and not simply just making the playoffs.
I hope this year can be used as a learning process to that fact.
I take comfort in the fact that the Saints lost to the Seahawks in the playoffs last year.
Sure, the Lions could have a first round exit, but this year has already been a huge success. Hello, we have a 23 year old QB who threw for over 5,000 yards! This game was an embarrassment so far as defense goes, but I’m just thankful to have a team to be excited about.
Without a doubt
As horrible as a game this was from the defense side, Staff and the O came out ballin’.
that was in seattle
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Seattle is a completely different team at home than away
and that crowd is crazy loud. Possibly the best home field advantage in the NFL from crowd noise.
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yeah, that too
Thanks for reminding me.
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LOL Matt Stafford doing a cheesy ass HFMG commercial
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I Hate the whole secondary
I’m angry!!
There is no way win ANY playoff game with that average players
Bring Finnegan now!
I'd be thrilled if we picked him up
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Don't be too angry
Wright has had a bad groin all year long, he struggles with any change of direction by a receiver in thier route at all because he cant properly plant to redirect himself. Houston is struggling but he is a scrapper, he will bounce back. I actually like McDonald out there a lot more than Phonz. He is a much better tackler and hopefully he can knock the rust off fast. I just hope he keeps his mouth shut, his head up, and he eyes open.
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exactly right on McD
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falcons...
winning 42-0…
hello 6th seed!
by Usman 'Uzi' Altafullah on Jan 1, 2012 5:29 PM EST reply actions
Jeez Tampa coulda atleast tried to score
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To be fair though,
you probably don’t have to prepare too much for the Buccaneers…
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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Jan 1, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but they weren't taking any chances
they saw an opportunity and seized it. the Lions meanwhile…..
These games make me really think
We should invest in a CB in the draft. I just want Aaron Berry back and fully healthy though.
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IMO our needs are as follows
Center of the future. Sorry Dom, your not young anymore, your undersized, and you take stupid penalties, too many for a veteran of your tenure in the league.
Tackle of the future. We need another tackle that can help to push Backus and replace him in a year or two. Jason fox may be the answer, but he also may not be.
Running Back depth, because we seem to need to go 6-8 deep on this team at the position, every year we are severely depleted by injuries.
Big Man Receiver Depth, we need another guy who can go up and get the ball in the end zone or within 20 yards. I like all of our starters, but I am not sold on Stovall.
Premier Corner / Nickel. We need one more secondary guy to play slot our outside so that guys like McDonald and Phonz are pushed to depth or off the roster.
Return Specialist. Stefan Logan has been a difference maker this year, for the opposition. groan
Other than that it is all gravy, but I would like to see them invest mainly in the offensive line and defensive secondary with their high picks, probably along with another receiving threat. I really like that Fleener kid from Stanford at tight end. It don’t HAVE to be a wide out. But we do need one more big man out there when we are inside the 20.
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I agree with almost all of this, but not sure we need more help in the recieving corps
Seems like a luxury to me … and I could see us needing another dominant DE to replace KVB and compliment Avril (if we can keep him)
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mainly I want an outside threat that can compliment Calvin, in a Jump Ball scenario
Scheffler is that for us in a lot of ways, but I am not sure he is healthy enough to be relied upon. Also if anything ever happens to Calvin, it would be nice to at least have a competent backup at the position.
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I like our offense just the way it is
seems like every week they are looking more and more comfortable with each other out there.
you don't see TDY as a good outside threat?
while he doesn’t fit that jump ball scenario he sure has the speed to work the sides. I do like him as a Welkerish sure hands make things happen over the middle guy, but.
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I like Titus, but I dont see him as a big body jump ball guy that plays at the 14-15 yards in the air level that C. J., Grew, and Schef do.
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I don't see him that way either
That’s why we have CJ. You don’t need two guys like that.
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How about a guy like
Junior Hemmingway, in a later rd kinda guy?
I could see that, we don't need and elite jump ball guy
But a guy that is like 6’ 2" at least and can go compete for it. Similar to Titus really, just a little bigger so he can gun on special teams or, if that don’t fit the role perhaps be a return specialist.
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yeah, he already has an NFL type build
Could for sure play ST’s as well
If we shore up the rest of our team
then we can have luxuries.
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more the merrier indeed, if you can get them
As it stands now he’s our 2nd best deep threat tho. I see what you’re saying you want in the draft, and that would rock if it didn’t take a high pick. G’luck on that one…
Maybe we can get lucky and snag Lester Jean from the Texans if he goes to PS lol. All in all tho I think WR, and TE, are very low on the scale of need.
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I feel like
this loss will be good for the team come playoff time. Based on what I have seen from them this whole season, this team has a lot of pride (especially the defense) and they will not like hearing all week about the horrors Brees will visit upon them next weekend, and all the other crap the media is going to spew about them for the next week. This team plays with an incredible amount of passion and pride, and I feel like they will show it next weekend against the Saints, and give Brees and the rest of that team everything they can handle.
NO is a very professional organization, I wouldn't for a minute sell them short
They will be VERY prepared next week, as they’ve been in the playoffs every year and know how to prepare.
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Over/under on yards allowed in NO?
I’m putting it at 600 right now. The defense has NO pride and NO effort.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
yea, lets over react.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 1, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Overreact?
I just saw two things today.
One was NO hang 500 yards in three quarters on Tampa.
Another was the backup QB for the Packers hang almost 500 on a Lions D with everything to play for.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Jan 1, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
yes, overreact
NOLA is not the second coming. They are beatable
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NOLA has the best offense in football, but yes any given Sunday
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Not by the Lions if they play like this.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Jan 1, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Lets just forget how they played against San Diego and the Lions are 10-6.
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I would prefer to remember the San Diego game
and forget the game against the back up QB in Green bay.
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It's indoors at least.
Yeah, it’s the superdome, but the Lions have never been good in poor weather.
It sure looked like Tampa's D out there.
Anyways, 500 yards on Carolina, yet another sucky NFC South team. Blah.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Jan 1, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Disregarding the stupid penalties
The Lions were competitive the first time around in New Orleans. Don’t stick a fork in it yet.
I seem to recall we had a hard time beating the officals + other team in that game as well
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The Lions still have to earn the street cred with officials
Official Bias is based on 3 things
1) Star Power: Obviously some players like Revis and Woodson get away with PI and it will not get called. As the Lions continue to develop players, we should develop some star power and benefit of calls. You saw some today with Stafford. But we still have a ways to go there.
2) Pedigree of program: There is no doubt that perpetual playoff teams that are perceived as “winners” get the benefits of officiating.
3) Home Filed
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All Three
NO has in spades!
We've become so dumb we don't know how dumb we've become. Source Obscure.
Don't sweat the petty stuff & don't pet the sweaty stuff.
by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Jan 1, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
they won't
they know how potent our offense is so that they’ll be ready for.
their offense is off the charts good so all they have to do is play their game and they’ll be better than our defense. there isn’t any over or under estimating needed. they just do what they’ve been doing.
I’m not trying to sell the Lions short, but our D on their best day can’t keep up.
I don't think we've seen our defense on their best day
if they start jelling like our offense they can compete with anyone. The talent is there, just needs to build confidense in each other like the offense.
Nonsense
On our ‘best’ day, Brees would be throwing from his back foot and being sacked all day long. THAT defense however has decided to not really show up only in halves this year.
Brees on his back foot is better than 2/3 of the QBs in the league
especially when he has multiple targets to throw too and a great running game to back it up
besides my point was more that I don't see them underestimating the Lions
because there is no reason for them to do so.
I have no faith in them underestimating us
Brees is an experienced leader and Peyton has been there before.
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exactly right
they are going to come out and play…. probably even harder because they’ll be pissed not having a bye week
Does no one else
See the similarities between this team and the one from the early 90s with Fontes?
Great offense can score whenever. Defense with names that seem to never want to show up.
ugggg
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potentially the most talented but I do not think it is cut and dry
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I know your kidding.
We had a pro-bowl corner in Ray Crockett, good safties in Blades and Wm. White, Robert Porcher and Jerry Ball on the line, Spielman anchoring the middle.
The run and shoot Lions were #1 and #2 twice I believe in 3 yrs in overall offense.
Spindler was pretty good for a few years there too until his knees gave out
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And another name, forgot about Marc.
Same thing though as now. Great talent, never showed up on defense. Lose games 40-38.
That team had players across the field
hard to remember them all.
Incantrix made a great start above.
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still comparing apples to oranges
that team compared to the talent in league then to talent in this league this year. I like our chances better now.
Same lack of success however.
Right now with our coaching, we are getting exactly the same results on the field.
That was 95 wasnt it?
I think our defense is better now than it was then, but it’s a worthy comparison.
Officials
We are just stunned. Something has to be done. This game was stolen from the Lions. This is the most obvious theft of a game we have ever seen.
From the Young touchdown, to the non-fumbles, to Packers leading with their helments on tackle after tackle. Phantom holding and interference calls.
Pitiful.
BOYCOTT THE NFL
The NFL will not hire professional referees because they’re too cheap! I don’t care what they say teams like the lions have been perennial victims of lousy officiating for years, so you can’t tell me that part of it doesn’t have something to do with these amateur officials being fans other teams. I think we all should write to the NFL front offices in New York and demand they hire professional officials are also they will be boycotted by NFL fans across the league.
Someone needs to start a lawsuit.
Haha, there certainly have been those filed for far less reasoning.
I think our needs are.....
-We need a big time CB for sure and added depth
-We need another stud LB, Levy hardly did much this year, a big non factor IMHO
-OL help and depth is crucial moving forward
-A returner that doesn’t kill us with fair catches and fumbles
Of course depth in all positions but those are the things we need drastiacally
Im good with my starting CB's
But we need depth there.
Levy is alright and Im fine with him for another year however if a good value player falls to us in the draft ex. Fairley than we get one.
Im hoping we trade up for Stanford Guard David DeCastro.
And yes how about a 5-7th round reciever/rb that can catch/run and return kicks and punts.
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This years draft is STACKED with receivers
We should be able to get a starting caliber one even in the 3rd or 4th round, possibly even the 5th.
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Yeah
But I’d rather go CB or Oline those are bigger needs than a 4th reciever
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Well I am thinking something like this
RD 1: LT / CB / DE
RD 2: CB / LT / C / TE
RD 3: WR / RB / TE / C
RD 4: C / G / WR / RB / TE
RD 5: C / G / WR / RB / TE
Obviously if you take a guy in an earlier round you would not take the same position later
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he is not sold on Chef?
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Not sold on Shef or Heller
For their role they are good sure. But why settle for one elite tight end when you can have two. Just look at what the Pats have with Gronk and Hernandez. Scheffler disappears for portions of the season, not just portions of the game. Heller is a good blocker, but everyone knows it is likely a run play if he is in there and there is no way he is making a reception past 10 yards on a regular basis. As much as I like him, he is very one dimensional and limits the offense when he is on the field. Both tight ends behind Pettigrew can be upgraded.
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He has a bad foot, its been a career long injury since before coming to the Lions
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I could be wrong here but
if we lose in the first round and all the other lower record teams lose in the first round. The best pick in the draft we can get right now is 25th.
That is not a great place to get a starting LT or DE.
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hell yeah
or a CB
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who is that?
I am not enough of a college ball fan to have a good feeling for incoming draft talent.
I readily admit that. I count on you all here for that info.
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I told you about him earlier
He’s a RG for Stanford. Beast run blocker, above average pass protector.
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oh yeah
thought the name was familiar.
Thanks for the reminder.
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doubt he's available.
but he would be a talent at a position of great need.
A little different
1= LT/G/C/CB/OLB/DE
2= T/G/C/CB/OLB
3= WR/RB/C/CB/OLB
4= WR/RB/CB/C
And we have no need for a TE
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See above about the TE and then watch some youtube on ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VntqR5-2Ng
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can that high of a pick be justified given other glaring needs?
if there’s no appropriate talent available at the time of the pick, ok, but otherwise I just can’t see it
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I guess you would have to ask Bill Belichick that when he took Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez
If he is a good value for the pick, absolutely. I expect him to slide into the 2nd round, possibly even the 3rd or 4th. Now keep in mind that the Lions will be picking relatively late in the rounds, so if they can pick him with a late 2nd I am all for it. Granted I would not put the first round pick on him.
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Looks like we're going to New Orleans
Nate Burleson is going to have OPI nightmares tonight.
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Oh ok
I was just basing that off of last year’s playoffs, both 3-6 games were the late games (AFC Saturday, NFC Sunday). I’m really hoping for the same this year so I can watch the game, I’m going to be busy all day Saturday
I suppose not.
But I’m sick of complaining about the refs. I welcome the change in topic.
lol
Lions fans are always fans of the draft, we could be one week from the super bowl and I bet we would still be talking draft around here.
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Thats so True
I just like to think about how we can always improve so the draft is always on my mind.
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right
Nothing wrong with that.
This team has holes. We need a lot more skill. The scary part. we are right one the cap already. Damn rookie scale before it was fixed.
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Skill
See, now I think this team has plenty of skill. Other than starting to replace OLD on our O-line, our offense should be set for years to come.
The defensive problems all swing back to our ineffective d-line play. The scheme they have run this year putting the ends wide has really left our LB’s having to cover a rediculous amount of space with no help vs the run on the interior, all the while getting almost no pressure on the opposing QB. No pressure on the QB leaves the corners on an island to which in the NFL now means either completed pass or PI.
yeah
the scheme is broke because the D line is overrated. Severely overrated.
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I love the strategy and intrigue of the draft
Since we will be picking much lower this year, it is super interesting!
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oh I don't read it that way at all
I think the draft talk simply tries to look at weaknesses and tries to match with potential strengths. Nothing wrong with that to myeye
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myeye
is that like a stinkeye?
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lol that comes later, during the offseason when I get sick of the mock draft speculation
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ahh
the mockeye…..
the distant cousin of the pinkeye
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speaking of cro-magnon man
how much longer is the forehead, Kiper, going to pollute the airwaves with his drivel. He’s the leading cause of me getting the headaches associated with mockeye!
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he fools everyone but the fans
It is astounding, honestly.
How he keeps his job is amazing. More proof that sports news is on the decline.
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oh thanks, my bad
I get those two mixed up a lot. So which one is able to pick Geiko? Maybe he could take over for Kiper
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ohhh! good idea!
how about we have Kiper take over for Orakpo! I’d love to see his candy ass getting pancake blocked all day long!!
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ya the more I think about it
the more I think Kiper and the Geiko caveman should switch jobs. They could both thrive. It would be cheaper for Geiko to make the commercial since they wouldn’t have to do the makeup to have Kiper fit the part, just a shitload of bronzer.
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that's right! mockeye!
that’s where you rub your eyes and think “wtf am I reading yet another fucking mock for” and follow that up with “well at least it’s football, what else does this numbnuts have to say”
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yup
As much as it hurts. It is far better than watching the 99th baseball game in the last 6 days. Uggg…
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a kick in the nuts is better than watching baseball imo
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there had to be a swift pain to the balls comment eventually
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lol indeed
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as if watching our defense all night
was not enough of a slow motion scrotum speed bag demonstration.
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Cant find Video
but here is the audio http://www.detroitlions.com/media-center/audio/postgame-audio.html
Great news everyone
We can all look forward to that idiot Hollywood Saints guy to come in and razz us next week.
sigh
it depends on who else wins
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we're the 6 seed
we’d play Green Bay again
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yup that's right
I was somehow thinking GB was playing a game too
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Its Packers
NFL reseeds. If 6th seed wins, they play the first
Link
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I'm not sure (so I might be talking out of my ass here)
But I think it might have been a relatively recent change (like 10 years or so).
Personally, I like it (and not just because the Packers are the 1 seed this year). It’s a way to reward the team that earned that spot.
With a fixed playoff tree and byes for the top two teams, you would wind up with scenarios where the #2 seed has an easier first game than the #1. If you gave the #1 team the winner of the 3-6 matchup, you’d set up them up to play the best team from the wild-card round. And if you give them the winner of the 4-5 matchup, you’d wind up with years where the #2 plays the “worst” playoff team while the #1 plays a “better” team.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
Don't forget you have the refs in your pockets my man
You have a great team but shit that was some bullshit officiating today
And that is a relevent response to my comment....how?
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
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Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
seeding does not matter when the refs are busy handing you games.
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by joshsun on Jan 1, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Last 10 years or so...
Ha! That explains why I didn’t know about it. Never had a reason to follow the playoffs in depth during that time.
I think when a team pulls an upset in the WC round they should be rewarded for that. The playoffs are more important than the regular season. I see where you’re coming from though.
to hell with that
- and #2 seeds already get a extra week off.
That is more than enough. there needs to be another two teams in the playoffs to even it out. No more first round byes.
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reseed is probably not the best term. guess should say
doesn’t use a fixed playoff tree.
If we win
we go play GB, lowest seed left, plays highest seed and so on
Only thing to worry about is the Saints
If they can beat them in NO, they can play with anyone.
They CAN play with anyone.
But they don’t. Coaching is the problem, head and coordinators. Our defensive schemes are horrid. This wide ‘9’ scheme they are running this year is killing us. Just as much as the offensive schemes have killed us (down by 2 touchdowns? guess we can dial it up now).
I agree
The wide 9 is the biggest joke there is. The Eagles run it as well and being from PA I get to watch pretty much every Eagles game. They have the same problems we have on defense. Teams just gashed them up the middle all year long.
We need to scrap it and new scheme. It must be a Tenessee thing because Jim Washburn is from there and so is Schwartz.
by RedeemedLions on Jan 1, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
and the Eagles have a ton of defensive talent and look how well they work
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We didn't run it last year.
They changed to it this year. Basically it leaves your DT’s on an island to be stunted to one side. Allows the DE’s to push upfield and wide running lane to either the left or right.
Line play needs to be improved all around, I wish we had the 49ers D-Line coach
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We need to go back to a base 4-3.
Look at the success we had last year, even in a losing season.
What they did is basically say to themselves, hmmm, our best player is a DT. How can we take him out of the game.
Typical of this coaching staff. How many touches do you give Kevin Smith compared to Pettigrew or CJ.
Haha
On a similar note to what I’ve said with the Wayne Fontes/Jim Schwartz comparision.
Good ole Wayne loved to do the same thing. Barry Sanders scored 21 TD’s last year. Fk NO! His ass needs to come out of the game in the red zone.
Dude, everytime I see your screen name....
I think of the band INXS
Sick of hearing people say "can't blame the refs"...
bullshit, yes I can. Did the Lions play like shit on defense, yes but I have no doubt in my mind that the refs changed the outcome of that game. In the end I honestly don’t care who we play in the playoffs, I just hope win or lose we show up.
"I don't take shit from anybody... If I have to throw somebody on their neck two times for them to understand that, it's that simple. They are not going to disgrace me." -Ndamukong Suh
by Droid6 on Jan 1, 2012 6:35 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Man that was tough
I had to step away for a few hours because I was just dissapointed. This loss felt different because I wasn’t mad, it just felt like a letdown. It just seemed that the defense didn’t take Flyn seriously and thought it would be a cakewalk.
One thing I can take away from this season is that Matthew Stafford is awesome and just keeps getting better. I can’t get over how many times he just puts the team on his back when we need a drive. Going to NO won’t be easy but thankfully we can score with them.
Technically the Lions scored as many points as the Packers, the refs just decided they better take 4 off the board
Think about just that one missed call, and the Lions are driving at the end for a winning FG not the winning TD. It makes a big difference in Staffords decision making process on whether he takes a wide open check down or forces a ball into coverage down the field.
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I was being kind, just breaking down that one missed call
There was 3 game changing calls they missed, all in favor of the Packers
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I think this loss is more on the D-Line than anyone
Not enough sacks, not enough pressure on Flynn to make him throw when he didn’t want to.
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Seeding
Well we most likely would’ve had to play New Orleans in the second round anyways if we had the 5th seed. So if we lose to them in the wild card game just consider we would’ve lost in the second round. This way means a higher drafting sport. The Superbowl is all or nothing, if you don’t win it all, you kind of screw yourself in the draft.
Well... if anything shows from todays game
the Lions can contend in a shootout with ANYONE. Yes we got torched bigtime today by Flynn, but if Rodgers was playing, it would likely be the same. I like our chances in New Orleans, hopefully the officiating is BETTER, that is one of the BIGGEST things that screwed the Lions today
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Bitch,Bitch and Bitch
That’s all I’ve read on this thread so far, yeah we hot f*ck on some plays. Well you know what guys Levy had a face mask to win the game for us and all I heard was we had it coming because we’ve had so many bad plays called agasint us.
Guys our defence pissed that game away, we allowed to let a back up QB shred us for the win.
That said we have some good points to look forward to playing the Saints next game, Stafford and the offence seem to be peaking at the right time. I know we are gonna have to play a perfect game to win. Trust me I’ve been saying this we needed to win the GB game the second we had a chance to lock up the the 5th seed. But bitching is not gonna solve a f*cking thing right now.
Saints here we come, were really playing with house money right now so f*ck you and I hope you bring your A-game when we play because if anybody can hany points on you like you can put them up it’s us…
See you next week…
that's exactly right
it’s just easier on some people if they can find something outside of the team to blame the loss on. To simply say, “the D sucked today and that was key in us losing” would hit home and be uncomfortable.
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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Our time will come, soon and in the future
Looking at this team, their not that far away. They still need to learn and not continue to suffer from “shoot themself in the foot” itis. Beliving your as good as the big boys, that will come too. It’s all a growing process. Even the most blind fan can’t argue that you can’t see progress. Obviously they need help in certain areas personell wise too. But when they add those pieces, talent wise, they will be at or near the level of the Saints and GB. All in all they fulfilled my expectations for them this year. At the begining we all pretty much knew that secondary depth was suspect and when you add injuries to that formula it’s never a good result..I honestly belive this team can play with anyone in the NFL. In 3 years they have caught up to most of the teams in the NFL… which makes a loss like this one so frustrating. You can see the potential.
BOTTOM LINE for 2011
Matthew Stafford 23 yrs old 5000 yrds passing 40tds
There is no team in the NFL that would not like to have a known franchise QB at the old age of 23.
I don’t know about everyone else here, but I have been waiting for a QB to be in Detroit my entire damn life. THANK YOU GOD.
that's right!
the future really does look bright for this team. Let’s hope they can continue on this path of growth.
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We have our franchise QB
now we need to get a Running Game to help him!
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it was reverse in the 90s
we had the running game, no talent at QB
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oh I see what you did there
kick a LeShoure when he’s down.
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touche :/
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Thanks for getting that bro
Hey, I can send you some names of bands if you want to give me contact info or whatever, I don’t wanna bore people on here who don’t care, you know?
oh ya that sounds great!
my user name without the space at the ya- who
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lol I wasn't spelling it out
but ya
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
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Nothing to see here
Move along.
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lol
exactly
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Atlanta has officially lost
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err won
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Revenge against New Orleans
we can do it, look at Seattle last year, they were 7-9 and they Beat the Saints! (granted they have a running game and they were at home)
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yeah, you know
because our coach says we don’t need a running game because we pass the ball pretty well……..
sigh
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well what else is he going to say?
“we’re fucked without Best and Leshoure and with no good run blockers?”
He’s going to put a shiny happy face on it and hope it works.
He could say
It hurts and we are doing everything we can to make it work.
Instead he blows sunshine BS up fans asses hoping to appease the masses.
It is insulting.
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Fantasy-wise...
I ended up 3rd in one of my leagues thanks to the 60 points from Megatron… guy who won the championship started Stafford… got 96.70 points…
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I am contending for the championship in all 3 of my leagues, hopefully I will win em, so far it looks good
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Points
we can drop points on anybody just need to tighten up the D. hopefully get Delmas back and Houston healthy
Lions 2011 "Luke 18:27"
Here's the way I see it...
Yeah it sucks that 1) the refs cheated Titus out of one hell of a TD catch, not saying that it would have been the deciding factor in the game because our D still played like crap and let a 2nd string QB embarrass them!.. and 2) that we have to go into NO where they have been playing good football all year…but on the other hand we would eventually end up playing SF or NO whether we had to play Dallas / NYG in the first round anyways, and there’s no guarantee that we would have beaten Dallas or NY either…were it not for one of the multiple come backs we had this year Dallas could have won that game. But all-in-all my point is that if we have to play NO anyways, lets go in there now while we are still somewhat fresh rather than another game beating up our players even more and spank their asses on their home turf…get our revenge…and the move one step closer to going back into GB for the NFC championship game :) Lets face it, stupid penalties beat us the last time we played NO…not the Saints…so as long as we don’t beat ourselves this time around we will be JUST FINE!!!
No love for Staffords 5000 plus yds for a season
they will talk about Bradys 5000 plus but not Stafford who is in his 3rd year? Stafford got the double snub
I prefer it that way
All the more motivation to be even better next year Stafford.
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He will top 6000 next year
Cause Suh causes the O to fumble on every down :)
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I would prefer 20% of those yards to go to a competent ground game.
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also true
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True
But nonetheless a good accomplishment!
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yes
but I didn’t realize you were a Nigerean princess! I would be glad to give you my bank info to help you hide your assets until you can find freedom!
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WTF
Are you talkin’ about, lol
Where did you get that from, Nigerian Princess? say what?
oh ooops, wrong email
I got yours too
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it really is just too good not to follow up on that
I mean hell, an opportunity like this only comes around once in a lifetime… as long as your lifetime is about a month
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I don't drink very often but I was driven to this state by the game
so my “other self” is making jokes about now
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does everyone here know
if a NFL quarterback can post a lower QBRating than 20.6?
Charles Aaron "Bubba" Smith 1945 - 2011 R.I.P.
Yes
If your name is Tim Teblow or Curtis Fainter
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i'm thinking Tebow will find out
it takes time to conduct this study tho so we might have to wait until next year
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Jesus Christ
Some of you (most of you?) are completely over-reacting.
We’re supposed to be the little brother in this equation. We walked into their stadium and went punch for punch with the best offense in the NFL.
The game came down to who made the fewest mistakes, which is really all we can ask for in a tough road game against a (then) 14-1 team. We had some drops. We had some shitty calls that cost us. And, well, we played as poor of defense as the Packers did.
The good points:
1. We bounced back from each and every shitty call.
2. We bounced back from the plays that didn’t go our way.
3. We fought for 60 minutes.
4. We put up 41 fucking points IN THEIR HOUSE in the wind and cold.
5. There is not one team of the other 11 in the playoffs that wants to see us on the other side of the field. We got fucked every which way and still almost pulled out a win in magical goddamn Green Bay.
6. They gave us their A game from a lot of players. They won. Congrats, Packers. We now have 3 hours of game tape on how to stop you in two weeks.
See you all back on the bandwagon after the Saints drop like a prom dress.
by Thorpac on Jan 1, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully
C.Will, Berry, Delmas are healthy.
If 2/3 are back
It will make a substantial difference.
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sugar coating FTW
We went against the best offense in the league that was without their Probable MVP QB.
We made a backup QB look like a league Wide MVP. So either it is their system or our defense is atrocious.
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I think its a little bit of both
They still had Finley, Nelson, Driver, and Jones and they clearly have a good OC that calls the right plays. Our secondary is very banged up and our Dline wasn’t getting the right pressure. That forced us to blitz with our LB’s which meant more 1 v 1 matchups.
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I think what is upsetting people is that we lost with many of their studs out and some backups in
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I Agree
What a compleatly different thread this would have been had our last drive resulted in a score.
We've become so dumb we don't know how dumb we've become. Source Obscure.
Don't sweat the petty stuff & don't pet the sweaty stuff.
by Lionz Fowlweatherfan on Jan 1, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
All this talk and not one word about our upcoming foe, THE SAINTS
Are we not talking about them because we know the mountain we must climb. Here’s the thing we can beat the Saints, but it must mean we play a perfect game.
A game much like our Packers game on T-day, but we have to take advantages of what we get. And sad to say that has been our downf fall, pissing away chances to put points on the board when it counts the most.
It’s all house money now, we had a chance for Cowgirls/Gaints. we could of had a very strong chance of winning that game who ever we played. Vs the Saints at home is near impossible, offence will have to be perfect, Defence will have to perfect. But I feel the Falcons would of been crushed agaisnt them, we however can put up points with the best of them.
I feel it will be a close game, much closer than all the BS espn and nfl people will call it, it will be a tight game in the 4th quarter. But in the end we will probably come up just a little short making this loss agaisnt the Packers that much more sour. Here’s to Schwartz getting this team ready.
PS- Just because our defence sucked this bad in the last game I do think we will cause the Saints a few more problems in this game… IT’S GONNA BE A LONG WEEK…
the CGI stuff does Faith Hill's legs no justice.
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by RealityIsOptionable on Jan 1, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions
question
who was the lion player that almost got his back bent backwards today? and who was the GB player who did it? I know there was one engaging the lion low, and another GB player came in and tried to break his back it looked like.
"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."
The hit was on Pettigrew, I think the guy bending him back was a CB or LB
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PS Tuff and I were screaming at the TV for a hit on a defenseless receiver on that one
Of course, only Packers and Saints get those kind of flags though
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Were the Lions
Were NEVER going to get those calls!
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Saturday, 8 PM on NBC that is the Lions at Saints
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Stafford really had 8 Touchdowns today.
Everyone keeps talking about the Titus Young TD that we got robbed on, but, dont forget about the other 2 TDs that almost were…
Titus Young diving catch in the endzone – but, he couldnt hang onto the ball. He makes that catch 95 times out of 100.
Calvin Johnson wide open in the middle of the field and Stafford threw it slightly behind him and Calvin dropped it. Calvin makes that catch 99 times out of 100.
Stafford is just sick (in a good way).
I expect the D to play better next week. If Stafford plays next week like he did today – they will not only keep up with the Saints – they will blow them out.
Barring injury – Stafford is on a projected path to go down as the best QB in the history of the NFL.
5000 yards – 41 TDs in his 1st full season playing.
F*@# Mark Sanchez.
we can beat new orleans!
look,ok we got screwed by he refs despite what some people in here feel! a fact is a fact…..whether it cost us the game or not is irrelevant! the refs made horible calls and that is a fact! we can beat no,they got beat by the rams,so they are indeed beatable! they lost to the rams,bucs,and gb…..so yes p.o.d.,the saints can be beat! our offense is on par with their offense at this point in the season imo,we have to step up on our d….in that sunday night game this year we beat them up in that game til the dumb penalties started to happen! if we can play without dumb penalties we will beat the all mighty saints! they can’t stop our offense,if we get to brees his record shows he gets happy feet back there,and if you remember back 2 years ago we played them real tuff! we just have to play a complete game,no dropped balls,no dumb personal fouls,no stupid penalties,great play calling….we’ve done all this in 3 or 4 games this year so we are very capable of doing it again…. our fate is in our own hands! new orleans is one big hit on brees away from being the colts…..who’s no’s back up qb again? one hit away! remember that….any given sunday or (saturday in our case) anything can happen!
Wow, the Packers site is tough reading
Their entire community must be made up of 15 year old girls. There are officially no man cards left in Green Bay.
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