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Lions Hope To Extend Calvin Johnson's Deal, Work Out Long-Term Agreement With Cliff Avril

Two of the players Detroit Lions general manager Martin Mayhew discussed during his media session today were wide receiver Calvin Johnson and defensive end Cliff Avril. Johnson still has a year left on his deal, but because of how high his cap number will be in 2012 (reportedly around $20 million), there has been a lot of talk about him getting a new deal. There has also been talk about Avril getting a new deal, as he is set to become a free agent in March.

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Let's first take a look at what Mayhew had to say about Avril. Specifically, note what Mayhew said about the franchise tag.

"I don't have any plans to (franchise Avril), but you never know what might happen.," Mayhew said. "We're going to approach Cliff about a long term deal and try to get something done and see what happens."

The situation sounds like the Lions will present Avril an offer for a long-term deal with the hopes of bringing him back. If the two sides can't work something out, however, it appears the Lions are willing to let Avril walk rather than franchise him and force him to return for the franchise tag number.

As for Johnson, obviously the Lions have no intention of letting him becoming a free agent next year, which is why the team is already starting to think about working out an extension.

"We definitely plan to work on an extension with him in the near future. That’s what our plan is," Mayhew said. "He’s got a big number but it’s workable."

The hope is that by working out a new deal now, the Lions could lessen the cap number for next year a bit. Their biggest issue this offseason very well may be trying to re-sign players and fit them all in under the salary cap. Extending Johnson and potentially lowering his cap number would go a long way toward helping the situation.

The other big part of extending Johnson now is that you wouldn't have to worry about him entering the final year of his deal next season. A player like Johnson, who was the top receiver in the league in 2011, isn't someone you want to have any contract issues with, and locking him down now rather than later would allow everybody to breathe a sigh of relief.

In any case, I think it's safe to say the theme of the 2012 offseason will be what the Lions do with guys that were on the team in 2011. Obviously there will be some signings in free agency and the draft will add new players, but as Mayhew said, "This year in free agency’s going to be a little bit different. We’re going to be more focused on bringing our guys back more so than going out and trying to find five or six guys from somewhere else."

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Resign him now

Hell no, I’d like to keep him in Detroit.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

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by Leonuro on Jan 12, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I want him to serve in detroit as long as he can play. We need to keep quality players here.

by notyourdaddyslions on Jan 12, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic.

Sometimes I can’t help myself. Apologies sir.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Jan 12, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I promise everyone this.....

Signing CJ to a long term contract will be a mistake.

Not that the guy won’t perform for a year or so, because of course he’s a fantastic talent. But while we may stay at this 10 and 6 level, we will be ham strung to sign top flight or keep talent in many other areas where it’s needed by that contract.

Just for an example. Say an upgrade to Levy is out there on the f.a. market, but the Lions will tell us what an up and comer Levy is, when that fact is they couldn’t afford that particular f.a. due to CJ’s contract. Their will be talent trade-offs everywhere for the next 5 years if he’s signed, along with what CJ could of brought in picks and talent in a trade, and while CJ is great it won’t be enough to offset the talent deficiencies brought on by his contract.

This places much more pressure on Mayhew and Schwartz to produce talent in the draft, and IMO they have been far from perfect in that arena.

Big,big risk committing such a big percent of your cap money to one player.

Is your head as big as your Mama's ass?

by delusional on Jan 13, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Lions have 3 big superstars with 3 big superstar contracts

I’ve already said most teams if not ALL TEAMS don’t have 3 mega talents on there team. Keeping all three will criple the abitly too sign FA and keep your in house talent.

Staffords stays, so it’s down to Suh or CJ. So do you trust letting Fairly and SLH take over the middle of our D-line to keep Stafford and CJ together. Or do you want Suh and Fairly to become an unstopple force for years to come on our D-line.

Both sides has pro’s and con’s

This is gonna be one fun off season to watch, fun and scary……

by msivits on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

You Promise?

Really? Not like that time my dad promised to get me a dog and we never did…

I can’t take that kind of disappointment again.

by GM26 on Jan 13, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I will wait to see what the Lions offer Megatron

It may turn out that Calvin is willing to play for less that you think in Detroit. It may also turn out that Stafford and Suh will be willing to restructure their deals in order to keep the talent on the roster. It is also likely that the cap will rise by over $50 million in another season from the new television contract kicking in. What sounds like a lot today won’t sound as bad when the cap is raised.

In other works, while I understand you concern, I do not necessarily share it. A lot can happen withing the next coup0le of seasons to avoid the problems you envision even if Megatron gets a new long term contract.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 13, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I just hate to see 5-7 year deals no matter what the sport.

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by delusional on Jan 13, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It's gonna be over 5 years

6 is probably where they will settle, it depends when he re-signs his contract. I doubt they will let him finish his contract out from the fear he’ll get offers from every free swinging dick in the NFL. So were talking an extension, if they can get an 5 year extension I will be alright because he’ll be 33 when it expires. A WR of CJ size will probably start breaking down shortly after that and would want him on a year to year basis after that.

by msivits on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Tuff, I agree and disagree

I think Stafford, CJ and Suh all want to play for Detroit right now because if they win a super bowl and become that next great franchise that’s one hell of a statement. “Example”

Stafford and Rogers are drinking at a bar with people all around them, and there both bragging about there career’s, Rogers " I was a MVP" Stafford “I through for over 5,000 yards” Rogers " I was 15-1 one year, Stafford " I was come back player of the year" Rogers " Oh yeah well I won a super bowl" Stafford " Oh yeah well I won one too…Pause…. WITH THE DETROIT LIONS" Crowd cheers for Stafford.

About taking less money I disagree, remember there playing in Detroit. Even though were a improving team were still not a hot spot for players too land. The only way we have the super 3 we have now is because they drafted them. I love Stafford but if given the chance to play here or be the starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys all there would be left is a vapor imange that would quickly start to fade away if given the chance to go. All my own thoughs nothing backing that he would want leave for the Cowboys just know he’s from Texas and who wouldn’t want to play for the team you grew up watching.

by msivits on Jan 13, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

You may know this already

But even more than just being from Texas, his HS is almost in the backyard of the stadium. It would be hard to believe he wouldn’t want to play for them. Obviously, that’s purely hypothetical though.

by sthelen_45 on Jan 13, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

They do have a WR core where CJ would be a #3 (according to Ryan)

But why would they want Stafford when they have Tony Romo. A better QB according to this year’s Pro Bowl voting.

Excuse me, I have to go to the bathroom. My lunch is coming back up again…

"Life's hard. It's even harder when you're stupid."
- John Wayne

by UndaDawg on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

huh?

Ok say we don’t sign Calvin….just for Shit’s sake….. I don’t agree with it,but just for kicks…. What will a team ever do….say we draft the kid outta Oklahoma state….. Doesn’t he get paid to play? And when his contract is up….. Let him go to I guess? I mean where does it end? Many other teams have 3 or more superstar….. The rams have been picking around where we have since fault left….the ravens have a whole defense of superstars….. Pittsburgh,new England,anybody half way decent has big contracts…. Carolina will have like 5 or 6 big contracts this year…. To not pay Calvin is just a really dumb thing to do,which is why mayhew says It’s on the top of his list! I mean even Cincinnati is going to have like 7 huge contracts this upcoming year….they have the raiders #1 pics and their own pics so what do they do? Contracts are the norm in the NFL….if u wanna win you dam well have to pay! To even suggest being cheap or letting him go or just trying to low ball a player who’s been nothing but a team player just makes no sense to me….the guy all but says he’s not gonna be greedy and break the bank….he’s a team player and wants good players in Detroit,so to assume anything yet is jumping the gun. Calvin never complains,does his job,and is unstoppable,so to me he can’t be paid enough…..I mean It’s not like wcf is broke….so pay the best receiver,team player,man what he is due..

by hostage42 on Jan 13, 2012 11:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

My only question is

how far above Larry Fitzgeralds’ 8 year, $120 million will the Lions go?

We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.

by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

How about

a 67 year 1 billion dollar contract.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Jan 12, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Need to add a house and a company vehicle. Thinking something sporty.

by notyourdaddyslions on Jan 12, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

For Calvin's safety

I’d make that company car the popemobile. Safety first.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Jan 12, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

...and probably a sweet wheelchair too

for when Calvin is playing in his 80s.
(I mean, he’s only human. He’s no Jason Hanson)

"Life's hard. It's even harder when you're stupid."
- John Wayne

by UndaDawg on Jan 13, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, he’s only human

I’m not so sure. Have you seen him play?

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Jan 13, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Shhhh.

Don’t tell.
We need to keep up appearances so he doesn’t get kicked out. I’m pretty sure they only let humans into the NFL.
(and Albert Haynesworth)

"Life's hard. It's even harder when you're stupid."
- John Wayne

by UndaDawg on Jan 13, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Not true.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Jan 13, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

damn

I miss watching him play on sundays. He put the meaning in the phrase “any given sunday”.

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by joshsun on Jan 16, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The compay Vehicle

It could be the Golf cart.. Just make it look sporty.

by notyourdaddyslions on Jan 12, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Ohhh no not the golf cart!

Then hopefully hes a better driver than a different Johnson we all know and hate :P

by Liontotheextreme on Jan 12, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw the salary cap

Sign each to a “coaching” contract worth high $$$ that doesn’t go toward the salary cap and 1-2 mill player contracts. That’s the kind of shit the patriots would do. Player/coach doesn’t exist anymore so there probably aren’t any league rules.

by nekweb1 on Jan 12, 2012 9:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Excellent!

This is exactly what I wanted, so it is exactly what they should do. LOL

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by TuffLynx on Jan 13, 2012 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

We should play a 3-4. Trade Suh, get two more like Fairley. Keep Durant and Tulloch and get two more linebackers. DBs don´t matter, they come when the hardware is in sight.

by mooncamping on Jan 13, 2012 6:02 AM EST reply actions  

Good Joke Man

We are never trading Suh, hes’s our best overall defenseman.

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by Detroitnr1 on Jan 13, 2012 6:58 AM EST up reply actions  

If we were playing a 3-4

We’d keep Suh and Fairley as 5-techs and then just find a mountain of meat to stick in the middle— oh wait, we already have two (SLH and CWill). Avril then stands up and becomes a rush LB (something he’s not unaccustomed to).

Essentially, we have the same formation that we already use in games from time to time.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Jan 13, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Essentially, we have the same formation that we already use in games from time to time.

In 2010. Not sure where the hell it went in 2011

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by joshsun on Jan 16, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

we gotta get johnson a new deal

he should get right about the same as fitzgerald’s contract. and then of course getting tulloch and avril re-signed are big deals. i know this is off subject and not nearly as important but i honestly think we should let stanton walk and bring in chad henne to compete with shaun hill for the 2nd spot and the loser getting the third. i really think henne could still be a good qb in this league and you never know when stafford is gonna go down again.

by Jared F on Jan 13, 2012 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

I would rather

be tied to CJ’s contract than to ever see him in a different uniform, on the other side of the field. Mayhew says it’s “workable” and I know he knows more about it than anyone else so sign him to a 6 year contract and forget about it. There is only one player on this team more important than CJ and it is # 9.

by Lionsickness on Jan 13, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

They have to sign him

He’s going to have 500 catches in the next 5 years, barring injury. He is literally the best athlete in the league and will set the bar for the next 20 years as far as receivers go. It’s just crazy how good he is. SIGN HIM. I say sign three DE’s and let Avril go. Price he is expecting is too high.

by LionsD on Jan 13, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Draft Worthy at DT

and have him and Fairly as starting DT’s…trade Suh to Miami for Jake Long.

by Doc_H on Jan 13, 2012 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

with the cap going up 5 million in 2012 and I believe is goes up another 5 in 2013

with the addition teams can exempt 3 players of 1.5 million each for 2012. Now would be the time to extend CJ’s contract.

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by JCruize on Jan 13, 2012 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

No see

I haven’t read that. All I’ve seen is that it should stay the same for next year.

Every nickle is going to help.

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by delusional on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Get Calvin done early and it will helps us re-sign Cliff Avril.

We need both these guys in our near and distant future.

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by The Profiler on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

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