I need help

but to help you out as you put it, i would say konz over kirkpatrick. i feel that our dbs are not as bad as everyone says. i mean they need upgrading, but they could afford to be taken later in the draft. but to be honest with ya, i don’t really know much about this draft class.

Need to pave a path for the running game and provide a solid pocket for our franchise QB. Our team’s future all comes down to # 9, and keeping him protected has to be the priority, IMHO.

I do not feel the secondary is really as bad as many fear. I just think that they level of play dropped significantly when we had injuries and went to our backups. What we need in the secondary is depth, not necessarily a starter. Our cornerbacks are young enough where they have some years left, but our offensive line is getting long in the tooth.

It is not easy to get a guy that will be great as a rookie cornerback. Most of the time they play from the bench for a year or two. When a player is forced to play a lot as a rookie you get what we got from Aaron Berry. He was inconsistent, but showed some flashes of genuine promise. The problem is that you also have to suffer the growing pains.

Rule #1 of the NFL draft. You really cannot count on a rookie becoming an impact player because about 50% of all first round draft picks are not impact players. Dream all you want about rookies transforming the secondary or the offensive line, but that is pretty unlikely. There really have not been very many offensive tackles that have been strong in their rookie year, and kept it up, in the past few drafts. The same is true of rookie cornerbacks.

I don’t think we need starting CBs right away, our problems came from the lack of depth in our secondary. Because our second and third string CBs were so incredibly bad we had to rush Houston and Wright back before they were ready. If we picked up a CB later in the draft, in the third round or so, who could be that decent second-string CB with the promise of something more in the future, I think that would address our needs more nicely than drafting a starter and letting Houston or Wright go.

isn’t it possible to improve and increase depth at a position by adding a starter and moving his predecessor to the depth position? For instance, Wright to the nickle and Berry to depth. Just playing devil’s advocate here.

i may be a new lions fan, but I’m still very knowledgeable of the team and the nfl in general. i know my shit lol. and i really think that our starting corners are good enough to keep. and our backups that were forced to start (berry and phonz) will get better. i can remember when i used to follow the titans and we had cortland finnegan, nick harper, and vincent fuller, who were our 3 starters (2 on the outside and fuller on nickel), well they all got hurt. it forced us to start rookie jason mccourty, rod hood (who we just signed) and rookie ryan mouton to start. that was when we went through a stretch were we couldn’t stop a single passing attack we faced all year and we got beat by the patriots 59-0 i think that year. they were all concerned that our young depth corners were busts. well just two years later the majority of the titans fan base is ok with letting finnegan walk now if he asks for too much based on the play since then from those same players, jason mccourty, ryan mouton who was unfortunately hurt all year this year, and alterraun verner (rookie last year). my point to all this rambling is that cb is a position that typically has to take a few years to develop. although there are exceptions, most cbs don’t start playing to their potential until they have been in the league at least a couple years. so imo berry and phonz will be fine. we just have to be patient with them. i really think the lions were in a similar situation this year as the titans were a couple years ago. but i also think it wouldn’t hurt to grab another strong cb in this draft if available at the right time. but imo i think that konz will be gone by our pick and we should just draft the best c or g left on the board.

I thought for sure there would be some out there willing to role the dice and risk the farm for the hope of an 8-10 year all pro cb.

This is our team’s mantra, and we now believe!

That said, there are only a few positions we probably wont draft: QB, RB, TE, DT. All others are open to BPA. We’ve seen by the Lions play for Patrick Peterson last year, that if they think someone is truly a rare talent, they will go for it.

I think DB’s are the main focus. It’s a passing league, and one bad play from a DB can really change a game…Let’s find a stud DB this year! But only if it makes sense / BPA.

thanks everyone. I am back to hoping for Kontz like I was a month ago. I think I may have over reacted to those last few games. However, I still contend that injuries will be a problem until we develop a bigger secondary. The amount of shoulder dislocations our db’s have had the last two years makes this staggeringly obvious to me. But it’s two birds with one stone, if we can run behind Kontz, the db’s will be on the field less while we gradually increase our db size.

I like Konz a lot if he’d be there also.

Another name that intrigues me is Burfict. Everything I’ve read on him seems to say he’s a lot like Ray Lewis coming out of Miami. Ultra-competitive. Schwartz recommended strongly that Baltimore draft Lewis. It’s going to be interesting to see how the kids interviews go at the combine.

But most CB’s in the NFL reach where they are going to peak at or during their 3rd full season. So Phonz should be near his peak during this next year, even after giving up what seemed like 10 ten TD’s to Jordy. And Aaron Berry, WHO I LOVE, should be pretty amazing not quite next year, although hopefully, but probably the year after.