Big CB's

by Mayhewed on Jan 18, 2012 1:48 PM EST

I'll be honest... I could care less whether a cornerback is 5'10" or is 6'2" as long as they have skills, but I know a lot of people on here are OBSESSED with the big CB's. I don't agree but I do understand the thought process behind your views. I'd be happy as long as we got a corner who could keep up with a WR and can make a decent play on a ball/ break up a pass. For those of you who love late round sleepers (like me)... or those who love big cornerbacks (not me), I have a couple prospects for you:

CBSSPORTS.com has an article as does ROTOWORLD.com on prospects turning heads at the EAST-West shrine game. Check them out at your leisure:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/16913289/shrine-practice-notes-players-from-nonmajor-schools-getting-attention

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/39690/60/draft-2012-shrine-week-update

Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina (6'1", 190 lbs.)

Small School prospect with the physical tools to get the job done. Norman has a tall, narrow frame with good length and muscle definition for the position; he definitely looks the part on the field. Through two practices, Norman shown off his quick feet and fluid hips, looking natural in reverse but also driving on plays in front of him with good timing and anticipation. He showed on several occasions his willingness to hit and get dirty, to go along with terrific ball skills when the ball was in his area. Norman could improve his footwork, but he is certainly holding his own against bigger-name receivers at the East-West shrine game.

Micah Pellerin,CB, Hampton (6-0/195)

Another small school player. Has also held his own at the Shrine game practices, even getting chippy with his receiver teammates. Pellerin looks very comfortable in coverage, not rushing his movements or drops until he recognizes the route. Like Norman, he has a tall, lean frame (6 feet, 195 pounds), but not as much bulk. Pellerin struggled a bit with his footwork in coverage drills, but he's decisive in his movements with a smooth backpedal, getting to top speed quickly. He played with confidence on the field and didn't back down or look tentative.

**** Both of these guys will be picked in the Middle rounds 4,5,6 at the earliest... pending a big jump in their stocks leading up to the draft.

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Myself

At first I was leaning towards a big CB. But I after reviewing the number of big WRs its just not there. Granted a team might have a 6-4 wr but most are skinny little things not a monster like ours. However a big Safety is needed to match up against those monster TEs that EVERY f-ing team seems to have nowadays.

by MisterEK on Jan 18, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions

I used to attend Western Illinois

And last year (2010) we played Costal Carolina in our first playoff game in nearly a year. We completely blew up the CC secondary. Maybe Norman’s improved since then, but I was not impressed with their D at all.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions

*nearly a year should read nearly a decade. Sorry about that.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions

Why not

I’m sure if there’s enough potential to them compared to others available when our number’s up Mayhew will make the right decision.

Also I try not to be a grammer Nazi but it’s “I couldn’t care less.” You’re actually saying the opposite when you leave out the “not” part of the phrase. Only bringing it up because misuse of the phrase can make you look really bad under certain circumstances.

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by oldboy22 on Jan 18, 2012 10:06 PM EST reply actions

sweet info

thanks for the post.

by Lionsickness on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 PM EST reply actions

Josh Norman could very will be this drafts "little seceret"

Keep an eye on this kid he’s got size and some mad skill from what little I have seen of him.

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by The Profiler on Jan 18, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions

"BIG CB"....

Drafting a “big CB” is not a priority at this time.

However, teams that can find, draft, and coach a player that can cover the Gronkowski’s, Hernandez’s, Grahams, Davis’s, Pettigrews of this league will hold an advantage.

Furthermore, it doesn’t have to be a “CB”…. Preference would have that player be a Safety or Lber as that would allow the defense to stay in base form, instead of the Offense forcing them into a nickel package.

This league is all about matchups… more and more offenses are drafting these big versitial TE’s… Defenses need to keep up.

THIS is why you hear talk of “BIG CB”’s… its not for vanity, its out of necessity.

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by CLF on Jan 19, 2012 11:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs

We have to realize this isn't Madden

The big CB doesnt exist throughout the league.. Who did the best on Pettigrew this season? I would say San Fran, and they did it with Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman NOT some 6-3 CB/S that alot of us feel plays on every good defense. ATTN PEOPLE: Ed Reed, Bob Sanders, Laron Landry, Antoine Bethea, Eric Weddle ARE NOT BIG GUYS! Sean Taylor like specimen come around every so often, and are not the norm. If you can cover, it doesnt matter if you are 5’6 or 6’4

by JaySoul on Jan 19, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions

I'm not sure why this is a reply to me.

A mistake?

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by CLF on Jan 20, 2012 6:30 AM EST up reply actions

No shot at you..

Simply saying these guys are hard to come by.. People act as if 6’2 CB’s are all over the league

by JaySoul on Jan 20, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions

They will be....

People act as if 6’2 CB’s are all over the league

Why act as if they won’t be?

The argument is to be proactive…. Do you not agree with being proactive?

If you can cover, it doesnt matter if you are 5’6 or 6’4

BTW, Do you realize how ridiculous this statement is?

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by CLF on Jan 20, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions

why do you insist on a pissing match?

I deal with reality.. not wishing the avg size of DB’s grow 3-4 inches as you do. Brent Grimes? Cortland Finergan? Antonie Winfield? Ronde Barber? Nate Clements? Carlos Rogers? Deangelo Hall? Assante Samuel? Dunta Robinson? Jonathan Joseph? Tramon Williams? and last but not least Darrelle Revis… I’m sure those DB’s cant cover because they are not 6 foot genius?

Ty Law, Darrell Green, Ray Buchannon just to name a few didnt struggle because they were below 6 foot! Cover skills> size .. Chris McCallister, Deion Sanders, Nnamdi, Charles Woodson, and now Pat Peterson size CB’s are RARE is the point I was making

by JaySoul on Jan 20, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Hmmmm... where did I say that?

not wishing the avg size of DB’s grow 3-4 inches as you do

I must of been playing madden.

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by CLF on Jan 20, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions

leron landry

is 6 ft and 220, guy is built like a linebacker. how is that not big?

by jmilktoast on Jan 21, 2012 6:46 AM EST up reply actions

Just as tight ends have gone high in the draft in recent years

I expect teams will be looking for the sort of physical, mobile defender who can limit the impact of top tight ends. I say “limit” because with the rules being what they are, it’s probably more important to be able to wrap up a 6’5" 260 lb TE and stop their yards after the catch than to be able to break up passes over the middle.

CLF, you hit the nail on the head as far as defenses needing to keep up. We have seen guys like Gronkowski, Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis make defenses pay in big games recently and throughout the year. I am sure that GMs are looking at the increase in plays called for tight ends and figuring out the kind of defenders available in the draft who stand a chance of slowing them down.

by SuhSuhSuhdio on Jan 20, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions

it’s probably more important to be able to wrap up a 6’5" 260 lb TE and stop their yards after the catch than to be able to break up passes over the middle.

Which adds to the GM’s specs of who he needs to draft. It doesn’t just have to be a CB… but when you look at a team like Seattle, Browner and that other guy…. 6-4, 6-3 CBs are starting to become a need. Hell, maybe GMs will start looking at shitty WRs and start to convert them?

There’s some changes brewing in the NFL…. and all I know is… defending Multiple TE sets is hell on a DC.

Who’s the top TE prospect in the draft? And will he make it to 23? Will the Lions have 4 TE on their roster next year?

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by CLF on Jan 20, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions

I admit big CB love

I see teams wanting WRs that are 6’4 to do the things CJ does. I think that the recent explosion in TEs used down the seam in passing attacks will just get people thinking about height. Sure we get LBs and Ss to cover the TEs, but we need a guy to cover the tall WRs who isn’t 5’9"

by ATL Lion on Jan 20, 2012 2:47 PM EST reply actions

I gotta admit...

the ESPN SPorts science on CJ really opened my eyes… To have to cover a player that has a catching radius the size of a 2 car garage is a “tall” order.

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by CLF on Jan 20, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions

i don't care about height

i just want someone who can press cover. it’d be nice to disrupt the route instead of playing 5 to 10 yds off and watching the qb just get rid of it quickly to avoid our real strength, the d-line.

by jmilktoast on Jan 21, 2012 6:49 AM EST reply actions